good afternoon to you, here at the brokaw news center in los angeles. it has been another day of high anxiety in charlottesville, virginia. moments ago the man who organized yesterday's unite the right rally held a press conference but was shouted down and had to be escorted by police. >> get out! get out! get out! we hate you! >> meanwhile, the justice department has opened up a civil rights investigation into the crash that killed one person and injured at least 19 others. the man accused of driving that car, james alex fields jr., has been charged with second-degree murder, and officials today

identified the 32-year-old woman killed in the crash as heather heyer, a paralegal from virginia. >> i think it's clear a terrorist attack with a car used as a weapon. our hearts are grieving right now. >> as the community comes together, virginia governor terry mcauliffe spoke about the violent demonstrations. >> my message is, hatred, bigotry language has got to stop. we, unfortunately, had many individuals come to our beautiful state, a vast majority were with weapons. there's no place for it in this country. >> maya rodriguez has been on this story from the very beginning, is live right now in charlottesville, virginia. maya, what more do we know about the commotion at the press conference just moments ago? >> reporter: right, so jason kesler, who's one of the organizers of the unite the right rally, decided to have a news conference just about 2:00 this afternoon at city hall just down the road from here.

when he showed up, there was a large crowd there. he approached the podium, began saying a few words, but the crowd sort of surged forward at that point. some people going right up to the podium, they began yelling at him, saying go home, murderer, and then they started shoving him. at this point he started to sort of back away, run away from the podium, state police sort of came in to try to escort him out. someone actually managed to run up to him and tackle him into the bushes. police got involved at that point, kind of picked him up, started scurrying away down a street. we had photographers that were following him all the way down, they were attempting to get to his vehicle. it's not clear if they ever made it to his vehicle, but they were definitely trying to get him away from that crowd. it was a visibly angry crowd. it is not clear to me whether these were residents of charlottesville or somehow counterprotesters who were still in town after yesterday's rally. now, the mayor here in town has been talking about trying to heal the city, take a listen.

>> i've been in this church a lot. i know my friend pastor edwards often begins by saying it's a blessing to wake up in the morning. let's just reflect on that today. yesterday was a tough day for charlottesville, but this is one of the great communities, not just in the country, but the world, and we will get through this stronger. we've been through segregation and jim crow and we've been through mccarthyism, and we will get through this challenge. >> reporter: by the way, there is good news we just learned, the local hospital here that had been treating the 19 people injured when the car plowed into the crowd, we're told that several of them are in good condition, a good number of them, and nine have been discharged, so that is certainly good news coming from those people injured. of course, as you know, 32-year-old heather heyer did die when that crowd plowed into the crowd. jacob? >> nbc's maya rodriguez with

good news, as she said, just 24 hours after that horrific car attack in charlottesville, virginia. 20 year old james alex fields jr. remains in jail. a picture of him holding a shield, the group denied today he's a member and claims they handed out shields to anyone in attendance yesterday. fields' mother says she was unaware of her son's involvement and did not know much about his political views. listen to this. >> i don't really talk to him about his, you know, political views. i mean, he just -- i don't really understand or what the rally was about. i didn't know it was white supremacist. i thought it had something to do with trump. trump's not a supremacist. he had an african-american friend. i mean, so -- >> joining me now, seema iyer,

former prosecutor and criminal defense and civil rights attorney and joyce vance, former attorney and university of alabama law professor. startling, shocking to listen to that interview. seema, attorney general jeff sessions condemned racial bigotry last night. what will these civil rights investigation ultimately look into here? >> it will look into whether this is a hate crime, and to constitute a hate crime, it's basically crime plus prejudice, so the crime being the driving through the crowd, the killing someone, the murder. now we're going to look at was that precipitated by a feeling of prejudice, and such is this vanguard america group, that's a perfect example of evidence that shows this man had bias in his heart. >> joyce, let me go to you, because fields was charged with several things. one count of second-degree murder, three counts of

malicious wounding, and one count of hit and run, intended failure to stop with injury. can james alex fields jr. legally be charged, given the evidence that we've seen so far with domestic terrorism? >> so, these charges, the state charges, were filed in order to hold field in custody for this period of time, to ensure that he couldn't get away from the scrutiny of law enforcement. now what we'll see will be a combined federal and state investigation into the facts and a determination into whether or not this is a state murder charge or whether we do have that additional increment of animus, racial or civil rights motivated animus that would put it in the category of a federal civil right civil rights crime. you asked an interesting question about domestic terrorism, and, of course, where we see this distinction between terrorism and civil rights come

to the forefront is with the muslim community, where they are often outraged when acts of violence against mosques or against individual muslims aren't treated as terrorism, whereas crimes perpetrated by people with associated with islamic ideology are. and that distinction will be critically important to communities here. there's no doubt that this is domestic terrorism, and no matter what charges are finally brought against this defendant, the conversation that we have, the healing in the communities needs to acknowledge exactly what was going on here. >> seema, to what extent can investigators actually go after the organizers of yesterday's rally or these groups, let's say it's vanguard america for passing out those shields given the ideology, then you find out the driver of that vehicle was simply holding one. how culpable are the organizers here? >> that is a great question, but i don't think they can be held culpable, unless they did some type of act that contributed to

the killer's act, right? because they are allowed to disseminate their publications and even their shields, as long as they do so in a safe manner, right, because they have that freedom of expression and freedom of speech that protects them. unless it interviews with the public safety. so i don't see them being culpable, however, good point that you bring it up, that it certainly will be a big part of the investigation. >> and joyce, the attorney general, jeff sessions, is from your home state of alabama. critics have questioned his record on civil rights. in fact, cory booker got up and testified against his appointment as attorney general based largely on his record over civil rights. can the current attorney general who's spoken out against racism and bigotry be trusted to carry out an impartial civil rights investigation in this case? >> so yesterday we saw a call on twitter from former attorney

general eric holder for this issue to be addressed by the department of justice, by the civil rights division. i think it's a good sign that attorney general sessions did make that commitment to open a federal investigation. it will be handled in large part by career staff who lead the civil rights division, the acting u.s. attorney in the western district of virginia is not a political appointee. he's a career employee who's been in that office for many years and is deeply experienced. and like always, i have great confidence in the career employees of the justice department. >> quickly to you, seema, are you concerned jeff sessions might get in the way of an impartial civil rights investigation here? >> no, i'm not. because he's not handling it directly, right? the case isn't going to be on his desk, it's going to be with high level staffers. i don't think so. and what else was he supposed to do? this is the right thing. this was a public crisis. virginia was in a state of

emergency. he has to get onboard with this investigation and go full force into whether it's terrorism, hate crime, state crime, everything. he must support it. >> well, he may have to get onboard, but we have not heard the words terrorism from the president of the united states. quickly, go ahead, joyce. >> well, i was going to say, an important point for us to follow up on is the justice department plays an important role in investigation in prosecution. it also is tasked with bringing communities together. and there's a division inside of the justice department, the community relations service, that in moments like this has responsibility for sponsoring communitywide conversations about hate and helping communities move forward. i hope attorney general sessions under his leadership will empower that group to do its work, to help people in charlottesville and outside of charlottesville so we can have the conversation we need to have about these issues. >> appreciate you both for

joining me, thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> thank you. as charlottesville continues to heal, we're learning more about the victims today. 32-year-old heather heyer was in the crowd when she was rammed in the car attack and killed. her colleague where she worked shared memories of her conscientiousness and her precision saying, "she had her opinions and would defend them with vigor. she was a peaceful person. she loved her dog, violet. she was full of life and her time was cut short, and i know that i will miss her. i am in shock." tonight a candlelight vigil will be held at the scene where the chaos sparked yesterday. 19 others suffered injuries, including five who were in critical condition, but the tragedy did not end there. two virginia state troopers were also killed in a helicopter crash just miles from the city. berke m.m. bates and jay cullen

crashed into a wooded area and died at scene. the city of charlottesville released a statement today sending its deepest condolences to family and friends of all three victims. the white house now defending president trump's highly criticized choice of words in the hours following yesterday's tragic events in charlottesville, virginia. take a listen to this. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides. on many sides. it's been going on for a long time in our country. not donald trump, not barack obama, it's been going on for a long, long time. >> and this morning, this statement. the president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred and, of course, that includes white supremacists, kkk,

neo-nazi and extremist groups. nbc's kelly o'donnell is just outside the president's golf club in new jersey. we both followed along together as this unfolded yesterday, kelly. the president is undoubtedly going to be asked about his comments on charlottesville. >> reporter: that is the expectation. it will be, as far as we know, the first opportunity to see the president since his event here saturday, where he was signing a bill, but used that venue to make his lengthy statement about what happened in charlottesville. and despite all of the words said and many sentiments directly about the events and loss of life, what the president didn't say has continued to be a substantial issue for this white house. what is notable right now is that the president, who is often first and fastest to use twitter, has not done so today. he simply retweeted a secret service tweet from very early today that honored the memory of

the two troopers you described who died in that related crash, and the white house put out the statement you read without that being a sign to the president's name and without a name of a top official from the white house, but sort of stating where they are today, feeling they needed to add something to it. we also saw a couple of the president's top advisers on the sunday shows today, including national security adviser h.r. mcmaster, who was also pressed to say what did the president mean, did he specifically include the kkk, white supremacists in his remarks, because he didn't say it. here's h.r. mcmaster today. >> when he condemned bigotry and hatred, that includes white supremists and neo-nazis. i know it's clear in his mind. we cannot tolerate, obviously, that bigotry, that hatred that's rooted in ignorance, ignorance in what america stands for.

>> reporter: so again, nothing new from the president, h.r. mcmaster also did say in questioning from chuck todd that he does view this as an act of domestic terror and acknowledged there's a legal definition for this, but his assessment of what took place should be viewed in that way. we have not heard that from the president, so tomorrow the president, who's been here for more than a week, will go back to washington briefly for this event, totally unrelated about china and trade issues, and if there's an opportunity to put questions to him, certainly reporters are eager to do that. we've not been advised that he's intending to take questions or make any other statement. then the president will go to new york city, where he's not been to his trump tower home since he took office and will spend the remainder of the week here in bedminster, where the ongoing renovations at the white house are yet to be completed. i'm in bridgewater, new jersey, the president is at his bedminster home. so we have days and days to go

and the president at any time could alert us if he wants to say something more on camera or use his twitter feed and so far he has not. jacob? >> as you can well attest, for the president of the united states who's particularly chatty this week, he's indeed conspicuously silent. kelly o'donnell traveling with the president, appreciate it very much. the rise of the white nationalist movement. what's behind the growth of groups like these across the country? that is coming up next. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru outback models. now through august 31.

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what happened in virginia yesterday shocked the nation, but for those who have been closely following the rise of the white supremacist movement in the united states, charlottesville came at no surprise at all. today the southern law center

counts hundreds of neo-nazi, white supremacist, and kkk groups among them, but that number appears to have gone after emboldened by the victory of president trump in november formed new groups and gather at rallies and mars like the one we saw yesterday in virginia. joining me, author of the book "gospel according to the clan: the kkk's appeal to protestant america," and daily beast attributer. i want to ask you, the first question, you were there on the ground. is what we saw yesterday representative of what normally goes on there? >> not at all. not at all. in fact, i can't tell you, as a very, very proud uva alum and as an international student that went to the university of virginia, really the best of america is what i found in charlottesville, and the best of america is what i got from the city and from this university. and i can't tell you what a shock it is to see this small,

sleepy, beautiful college town, thomas jefferson's academic village just explode with this white supremacist hate and violence. it's unbelievable and unreal to see. >> kelly baker, i want to ask you, friday night in charlottesville, we saw these young white men we're hearing described carrying torches, a throwback when the kkk had a stronghold on the south. did this -- it's effectively a modern day white supremacist movement grow out of the kkk, did the kkk, excuse me, ever really die out there? >> i mean, this is part of the problem, right, there were kkk groups that were in charlottesville. this is a group that continues, no matter what we seem to do, they pop back up and we can't quite get rid of them as a nation. i would make an argument this is an extension of a group like this, but it's more a larger extension of the way in which white nationalism has become increasingly more popular in the

run up to the presidential election in november, but also after, that we see people are more willing to talk about their white nationalism, to be out there, to go to marchs, to light torches, so this is very much a moment we're in that has a history and has a place in our nation and is pretty representative of the way white supremacist movements ebb and flow in american history. >> in july, the trump administration's department of homeland security took back funding that had been promised by the previous administration to groups to counter white supremacist movement. it was notified its grant had been taken away, rescinded. do you get the sense the federal government has turned a blind eye to white nationalism in america under donald trump? >> i completely get that sense. it's not just the federal government. they are taking their cues from the highest office in this

country. they are taking their cues from our president. it is not a coincidence what we're seeing on the ground in america and what we're seeing in the seven months since donald trump has come into power. the southern poverty law center cites donald trump's candidacy and his presidency for leading a serious increase of hate groups and hate crimes across the country. and i just want to give our viewers here just some perspective. imagine if what we're seeing on the streets of charlottesville today, if these were muslim protesters, if these were black protesters. i mean, the military would have been called out. why is it so difficult for donald trump to utter the words white supremacists, to utter the words white supremacist terror. that is what we are seeing. i mean, this is a president who has no problem calling out his enemies by name. he has no problem citing islamic terrorism, but he cannot utter these words. these are neo-nazis. these are not regular

protesters. we have to understand that these are klansmen without their hoods and they feel like they can come out and show their faces, because they know that the president of this country has their back. and the fact that he has not uttered a single word, that statement that he gave out yesterday, that generic statement, it could be applied to any violent uprising in any part of the world. why can he not say we condemn these neo-nazi fascist white supremacist acts? three americans lost their lives yesterday. what is the president waiting for, and where is the outrage? >> not only has he not said explicitly the kkk, neo-nazis, fascists, he hasn't mentioned the simple word racism, even terrorism, and this is a man known for beating up his opponents for not saying the words radical islamic terrorism. kelly, we've seen a lot of this playing out, not just in real life, but the basically the

build up is playing out online. while the fbi and nonprofits like the southern poverty law center have been tracking the organized white supremacist groups, i should say, for a long time, a lot of this racist narrative is building in chatrooms online. today a white supremacist news site said this, entire thread devoting to mocking the death of heather heyer. are we paying enough attention to what is actually going on when we're logging on to our computers and phones when it comes to this? >> of course we're not. i mean, one of the things that i think is increasingly clear with this is much of the movement surrounding white nationalists, particularly those who call themselves the alt right is happening online. the daily stormer is now one of the most popular white supremacist websites on the internet. i mean, clearly this is something that is occurring, and there's an ease to it, right, it's super easy to tweet some white supremacist slogan. it's super easy to pile on to

someone who is counterprotesting white supremacy, to attack known anti-racists, to target social justice warriors. this clearly happens online and people downplay it because this isn't face to face. this is the first battle we lost. they built momentum online, people were not their embodied self in this and felt they could be anonymous or they could tweet or it somehow didn't come back to them and now we're seeing where the rubber hits the road, these young white men we see protesting in charlottesville are also participating in these ways, too, and those are connected. and the more emboldened they feel online, the more emboldened they are in real life and that's a problem we're facing, that it is okay for people to light torchers and march in virginia feels like a throwback to the time period i primarily study, which is the 19 201920s chankla.

>> how ironic that we talk about disenfranchised muslim men radicalized online, it's exactly the same. what extremists are doing across the board is exactly the same. the insane part of what charlottesville is showing us is that our precedent is not going to call it out. why do we have so many people explaining or trying to justify his statement, which by the way ended with some comment on children having the right to go outside and enjoy being with their parents. what is he talking about? he cannot condemn these attacks. and until he does, his silence is condoning these attacks. we need to demand that trump come out and speak out against this, because he's either with them or against them. i mean, this is a president that sees everything in black and white. the lines couldn't be more clear. >> all right, we're going to have to leave it there, unfortunately. appreciate it very much. thanks a lot. coming up, new concerns today that north korea may test

another missile as the president's national security adviser refuses to rule out a military response. next here on msnbc, the latest on diplomatic efforts and how japan and guam are preparing should the crisis escalate.

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you partner with a firm that advises governments and the fortune 500, and, can deliver insight person to person, on what matters to you. morgan stanley. tensions remain very high over the nuclear brinksmanship over the united states and korea. mike pompeo this morning saying he anticipates north korean leader kim jong-un will perform more missile tests in the future. >> i'm quite confident that he will continue to try to develop his missile program, so it wouldn't surprise me if there's another missile test. >> but national security adviser h.r. mcmaster told nbc's chuck todd on "meet the press" today the threat of war does not appear to be imminent, despite the president's recent threats himself. >> the president doesn't draw red lines. what he does is he asks us to make sure that we have viable options for him.

options that combine diplomatic, economic, and military capabilities. >> meanwhile, chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff general joseph dunford has arrived in the korean peninsula today. he's expected to meet with south korean president moon jae-in tomorrow. nbc's bill neely is in seoul, south korea, with the latest on that visit. bill? >> reporter: yes, good afternoon, jacob. the u.s. chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general joseph dunford, has arrived here in seoul, and he will meet tomorrow, first of all with the south korean defense minister and then with the south korean president and virtually his national security cabinet. are the south koreans happy about what's happened over the last week? absolutely not, and they will transmit that to general dunford. they are not happy that the united states president is issuing rhetoric they've never

heard before from washington or, indeed, from new jersey. they are worried from fire and fury to locked and loaded, they are being put in a position where their lives literally are at risk. there are 20 million people in the metropolitan area of seoul. they would be the first causalities of any conflict between the u.s. and north korea. they are deeply worried. also they are slightly concerned, because h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser, in speaking to the south korean national security adviser just a few days ago said that south korea would be consulted on every step about what the u.s. was going to do. they don't feel that when donald trump steps on to the steps of his golf club in new jersey that they are being consulted in any way. you can see to the south koreans that actually the state department may feel the same way, but that is not consolation

to them. they don't feel consulted. they feel that they are being ignored. and that's very important for an ally that is in the firing line, an ally that is being a u.s. partner for so many decades. joseph dunford will go from here to beijing and meet his counterparts there. of course, the background to that is that telephone conversation just a short while ago between president xi and president trump. very different redoubts in that telephone call. the white house stressing how much they had in common, but president xi, according to cc-tv, chinese television, basically saying the chinese feel the president should dampen down his rhetoric and not say anything that exacerbates the tensions. that's the chinese position, cool down, and that's the south korean position, as well. and that will be reflected in the talks here tomorrow. jacob?

>> a cool down something i think everyone hopes for. bill neely in seoul, south korea, thank you very much. and coming up, the politics of tragedy. republican lawmakers criticize the president for not taking a tougher stance against white nationalist groups in the aftermath of yesterday's deadly events. how the commander in chief's remarks are resinating across his party today. comfortable you are in it. so find a venus smooth that contours to curves, flexes for comfort, and has a disposable made for you.

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reaction to president trump's comments continuing to pour in from both sides of the aisle. charlottesville democratic mayor michael singer expressed concerns over trump's alliances. >> old saying, when you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change -- the devil changes you. and i think they made a choice in that campaign, a very regrettable one, to really go to people's prejudices, to go to the gutter. these influences around the country, these antisemites,

racists, kkk, they were always in the shadows. it's now on the president and all of us to say enough is enough. this movement has run its course. >> joining us now are kevin sirilli, heather bass, and gabe sherman, msnbc contributor and vanity fair correspondent. good to see you guys. the white house statement is looking to deflikt the criticism t the president got from his choice of words yesterday. >> i just spoke to a senior aide to a republican member of congress and he said the republicans feel the president missed the moment, so to speak, in terms of not putting out a forceful condemnation of white supremacy and this neo-nazi incident. i can also tell you senator ted cruz has also called upon the department of justice to open up

an investigation into this horrific incident that emerged over the weekend and the department of justice has now opened that investigation. look, when you take a step back and you look at the republicans who have come out condemning not only this awful, racist incident, but also the white house's response to this. it's people like senator marco rubio, senator orrin hatch, as well as a host of other republicans who are now calling on this president to label this what it is, white supremacy, neo-naziism, this is something that has to be condemned at the harshest levels possible. >> it's not just people outside the administration in the republican party. laura, i want to play for you quickly the president's homeland security adviser today what he said. take a look at this. >> not only condemn the violence and stood up at a time and moment when calm was necessary, and didn't dignify the names of these groups of people. what they found when they showed up were groups from outside that

showed up on both sides looking for trouble, dressed in riot gear, prepared for violence. >> he says he didn't want to dignify their names, yet h.r. mcmaster comes out this morning on "meet the press" and called it terrorism. what are your thoughts? >> i think it's absolutely stunning that donald trump and his administration are applying some kind of moral equivalency here between neo-nazis and the people who went out to protest against them to say this is a problem of all groups. we condemn all kinds of extremism. it's to say everybody out there protesting has a problem. it's like saying to the nazis and the jews, you know, everybody needs to stop fighting. everybody, calm down. no, there's, obviously, one main problem here, one main insidious group here, and it's the white supremacists, and why is that so hard to say? >> honestly, so many people are so fortified on the same side today, it's just an extraordinary thing we're having this conversation.

gabe, you also spoke with white house officials about the president's statement yesterday. what are they saying to you? >> the view inside some corners of the white house is, you know, what the point we're talking about, that this was the result of both sides, that this was the work of violent leftists was the word that my source used to describe, you know, what contributed to this crisis. and this is really indicative of a white house that used parts of this political coalition to get elected. i mean, donald trump ran on a platform that appealed to the white nationalists, and i think there is a political calculus here of their refusal to call them out. >> yeah, let's be really explicit here. we have steven miller in the white house based on the language that you speak said over the course of the past week or two weeks, i don't know at this point. reportedly has ties to an anti-semitic groups said the

violence wasn't enough to talk about in the national media, then you have steve bannon who was the head man at breitbart. >> clearly, this is reflective of the nationalist wing of the white house that was spearheaded by steve bannon, steven miller, julian hahn, and others. i think the larger question that donald trump should be asking beyond sort of a moral abdication of calling this out is that the political risks, the downside to this, because the republican party, which so far has stood by him throughout all of the scandal and crises, you know, we're seeing them break forcefully with trump on this issue, and donald trump is not delivering really any legislative agenda for the republican party. at some point they are going to say that there is more downside to standing with the president than breaking from him. and this is just giving republicans another reason to put daylight between them and the white house.

>> i want to quickly play a piece of sound, david duke, former grand wizard of the klan was there yesterday. of course, donald trump refused to disavow david duke for a long time throughout the campaign until he begrudgingly did so. he was talking about his allegiance to the president. watch this, guys. >> this represents -- the people of this country, we are determined to take our country back. we're going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. that's what we believed in, that's why we voted for donald trump, because he said he's going to take our country back. and that's what we've got to do. >> i guess, laura, there's some candor at least from one place yesterday. what do you think about that? >> people ask if this is a watershed moment and i think that implies some kind of change and pivot, but this has been donald trump all along. these have been the people supporting him all along. the kkk was circulating pro trump flyers during his election

and he didn't denounce them. i remember jake tapper had an interview with donald trump in february where he explicitly asked, do you denounce these white supremacists and david duke and donald trump was like i don't know, i'd have to research those groups. and then a couple years later he said his ear piece wasn't working. he's never been able to denounce these people because they make up the core of his base, of the alt-right. >> if people are watching at home and they are watching the news and seeing clips of david duke, people are watching this, they are horrified. what year is it that we're playing clips of the grand wizard? what year is it? this is an opportunity for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to denounce this, to unify the country. this is a president who apparently is giving a press conference tomorrow. this is a president who said frequently on the campaign trail, which i covered since base basically the beginning that he was going to unify this country. this is his first big racial

issue test. this is the time and the home for him to rise to the occasion. it's not opinion, this is fact coming from republicans up on the hill at the very senior echelon levels. >> kevin, i'm going to quickly give you the last word. members of the alt-right look to gorka, miller, bannon would be out of there at this point after an event like this. what are the odds that they stay on or that the president asks them to pack up and leave? >> well, i think right now what the country wants to hear is a strong condemnation coming from president trump, and, you know, if you go to states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, which president trump won, those voters are looking for a strong condemnation on this. independent voters want a strong condemnation and the republicans, again, that are going to be in charge of accomplishing his legislative priorities are looking at this and simply saying what year is it?

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obstruction of justice at least? >> that's a question only the investigators can answer, but robert mueller is going to leave no stone unturned and is doing a very thorough job in the investigation, and at the end of the day, now that the investigation is in place, it might not necessarily be something about questions of collusion or election interference that might get the trump administration or members of the trump administration or the former trump campaign, right, everything now is fair game as part of that investigation. it could be financial disclosures or some type of financial wrong doing, or it could be something like the obstruction of justice and, of course, the firing of james comey. >> how does this all play out into the ongoing situation in north korea, the president, nikki haley, able to get russia to come onboard to vote for the sanctions 15-0, a real big diplomatic accomplishment with the investigations going on concurrently. is that going to play into our relationship with russia when it comes to north korea, do you think? >> i don't think having bad relations helps in a situation like this. that was a significant step to

have russia and china vote along with the united states on a security council resolution, so moving forward this is a place where i think russia could play a big role. already as you talked about earlier in the show, russia and china are trying to propose some type of negotiation or process where maybe the united states and south korea won't do military exercises, they'll put some pressure on north korea, but either way, you know, i think it's terrifying for a lot of people that you have two men who are essentially having an ego contest with something that is such a drastic measure where there's a military conflict or possible nuclear weapons use at stake. i think we should hope for diplomacy. >> before we let you go, watching yesterday what unfolded in charlottesville and the president's response, lack of ability to address the issue at hand, terrorism and the issue of racism. it reminds me of how he deals with the russia probe. he doesn't want to talk about russia's meddling in the election. he never really wants to go after vladimir putin in any way. is this a deliberate strategy by this president to just beat

around the bush when it comes to issues he thinks are going to upset his base? >> his base or affect him himself. the president has no problem criticizing anyone and everyone. he called the pope disgraceful at one point, but when it comes to situations with the white house and president for leadership to take a certain strong position, you know, whether anybody wants to interview in u.s. elections, the president of the united states should say that is something that is unacceptable. on the issue of racism, anti-semitism, any kind of prejudice and white supremacist views i think is unfortunate and it's a missed opportunity and bad reflection on the white house that the president won't fully come out and say this is something there's no room for and we do not support. >> all right, good to see you in l.a., thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the city of charlottesville's decision to remove confederate statues. how another state is responding to yesterday's tragic events with action.

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