that's why it's national. but it's not just the stuff that happens in the white house that happens everywhere. sometimes what happens in little corners of the country affects all of us too. best new thing in the world tonight. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again monday. msnbc live is next. good morning. i'm page hopkins in new york at ms nbc world headquarters. it's day 212 of the trump administration. the city of boston bracing for a day of protests, including a right wing rally. after what happened in charlottesville, big questions about how many will show up and what will happen if anything gets out of hand. steve banyan, jacked up, out of the white house and back at breitbart. in a new interview, he's promising a wide ranging fight. plus, what this resignation means for president trump. is he now a lame duck president? what can he get done?

we're going to have the answers, ahead. happening now, an increased police presence in boston as right wing groups and counterprotesters hold rallies. this comes just one week after rallies in charlottesville turn deadly. morgan rad ford is in boston in the middle of it all. how big is this going to get? >> page, this is expected to be the largest rally since charlottesville. boston police are expecting between 20,000 and 30,000 people to decent right here on boston commons behind me. there are really two rallies today. the first is a so-called free speech rally and they have invited white nationalists to speak. but the organizer we spoke to said, look, this really isn't about white national i. this is about the ability to say and express your views regardless of whether or not those views might be offensive. but there's a counterrally that's scheduled. we expect to see people also coming here, the two are going be separated, but the organizers of that counterrally said we don't appreciate free speech if

it's hate speech. so they're coming here to show their support and say boston does not stand, as they say, for bigotry. now, police have been going through the online profiles of people monitoring that social media activity trying to identify anyone who might be a threat or who might be trying to create a violent environment. that is not what either organizers have told us they want to see today. they want to see a peaceful movement .a peaceful protest where everyone can express their views and even the members of the counterrallies say they don't expect everyone to come away with a kumbaya movement and agree. back up they want to show that they're stand for boston and love and not hate. >> and now to politics and the fallout over the ouster of steve banyan. president trump's chief white house strategist, congress is weighing in on whether this will do much to change president trump or the white house's messaging. here is what they told mike last night. >> the president did the absolutely right thing in firing

steve banyan. he cannot have a staff person in the administration undermining the president of the policy of the united states and his cabinet. banyan had to go. >> do you believe that jewish members of this cabinet should resign in row test, particularly given that breitbart is signaling they're coming for them? >> yes. i think they have to. i think people of conscious can't pretend that this president is something that they had hoped he would be. .i think that this is the beginning of the end of republicans being able to hide behind some imaginary donald trump that doesn't exist any more. >> the problem is him and his inability to focus his continuing attacks on everyone who disagrees with him. >> the naacp echoing that in a statement saying ousting one key staffer cannot erase the words

used by president trump in this week of defense of domestic terrorists, neo-nazis and white extremists. president trump provided permission for these hate groups to exist. returning to breitbart right after the news, steve banyan chaired the company's editorial meeting, telling bloomberg's josh green, if there's any confusion out there, let me clear it up. i'm leaving the white house and going to war for trump against his opponents on capitol hill, in the media and in corporate america. banyan said he will still play a role in shaping trump's future in the white house, telling the website the trump presidency that we fought for and won is over. meanwhile, one of banyan's colleagues at breitbart had this message for president trump. after tweeth hashtag war when the announcement was made, here is what joel told my colleague chuck todd. >> if he sticks on the issues on which he was elected, if he fulfills the promises that used to hack on steve banyan's wall

in the west wing, then i think you'll see positive coverage if this becomes an arnold schwarzenegger situation where he swings to the left in an attempt to appease his media in the democratic party, then i think you would see a war. >> melanie, let's start with you. what would this war look like, based on banyan's comments, is it safe to say president trump would not be their direct target, but would probable focus on jared kushner? >> i think that would be right. that does include economic adviser gary cohen, jared kushner, aye ivanka trump.

but that also included the establishment. i can tell you that attacking those people is also an indirect attack, though, on the president and it's going to be really hard if they are dividing -- if breitbart is responsible for further dividing this republican party because they're facing a brutal workload in the fall and it's going to take a lot of team work to get this legislative agenda passed. >> that's for sure. laura, take a look at this excerpt. >> now i'm free. i have my hands back on my weapons. someone said it's banyan the barbarian. i'm definitely going to crush the opposition and now i'm going to go back knowing what i know. about to rev that machine up. >> here is someone who left the white house with a security clearance. is there a sense of how the white house is set to deal with this if it gets to that point? >> a very bellicose statement from mr. banyan there. i think he's lost a to the

extent that the people who are close to the president who are still in the white house are physically closer to him, the best thing that they can do to fight back against whatever it is that mr. bannon intends to do with breitbart is to just be in the president's ear all the time. >> melanie, another part of that weekly interview, bannon said we still have a huge movement. we'll make something of this trump presidency, but that presidency is over. it will be someone else. there will be all kinds of fights, and there will be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over. what does he mean by that? >> i think what he's tapping into here is that steve bannon was a conduit for this alt-right movement, for these nationalist, populist ideas. he was the one to engage in trade wars with china and these sorts of things are views that trump did not frankly hold when he was a new york real estate

developer. so i think there's some real concern with within the ath-right and this side of the party that now trump is going to shift towards being more of a establishment republican especially with those in the white house. >>. >> is and does president trump pick a new policy agenda? >> i don't think so. he's shown himself to be very klannish, a the person who likes to keep his circles tight. it will be interesting to see

how the president moves on from here on out without bannon, whether he actually is influenced or not. and he might stick to this sort of campaign-style street fighting that we've seen pushed by bannon. i mean, coming up, he has this rally. but also, i would point out that i wouldn't be surprised if trump continues to seek bannon's council and advice. so i wouldn't write bannon's influence off just yet. >> or that he's out of the picture just yet. >> uh-huh. >> laura, erik prince, founder of the blackwater private security firm had been scheduled to attend the camp david session on afghanistan, but that he was blocked at the last minute. the administration official said mcmaster was the one who blocked prince. what do you suppose is president trump's calculation when it comes to keeping his base happy and at the same time listening to general mcmaster and kelly? >> i think the blackwater erik

prince plan was reported to be the brain child of steve bannon. i don't think that the base is particularly attune to or cares so much about having war overseas privatized. the president can still make his off-the-cuff appeals to economic nationalism and populism. it seems to be something that he feels very deeply and still take the advice of his generals and his chief of staff. >> thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. and what we just learned from investigators in a live report, next. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. and fragmented care- stop getting in the way of patient recovery

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in kissimmee, florida, one officer is dead and another gravely injured. they were shot in an area known for drug activity. three suspects are now in custody while police are still searching for one suspect. president trump tweeted that his thoughts and prayers are with the kissimmee police and their loved ones. in jacksonville, police were shot and wounded and police believe three people were being held hostage in a home when a suspect opened fire. the suspect was killed and one officer was shot in his hands and the other in the stomach. no word on their condition this morning. now back to the fallout over the ouster of steve bannon and his absence in the future of the white house. kelly, you have a bit of breaking news to report out of the white house? >> good morning. this is a new statement the

today from the press secretary and it's another sign of how traditions in washington can change in the trump era. the president and first lady will not be attending the kennedy center honors. of course, that's one of the highest honored bestowed on those in the arts communities and this would be a taping at the kennedy center in december. obviously, it's august, but planning for that production which has some of the most glittering stars of all aspects from stage and screen and music and the literary world who come together for honors that typically include the president and the first lady being in the box. the white house, through the press secretary, says that the award recipients are recognized for their lifetime contributions and the president and first lady have decided to allow them to celebrate without any political

distraction. obviously, the arts community is saying this is a way to allow the honors to go on without distraction. that is very notable, the presidents and first ladies who have attended that and been part of the celebration. also this morning, there is a big fallout over a seismic change to trump world with the dismissal of steve ban b who says he resign, but at the same time, everyone acknowledges that chief of staff john kelly, who had done a review of the team at the white house and recommended to the president that steve bannon be out. the president, as we are told by sources agreed to that. so yesterday was bannon's last day. interestingly, on the same day he left the white house, he returned to the place where he had made his name in conservative media circles, breitbart. he returns as executive chairman. he also did an interview with the weekly standard and this is

where you really get an insight steve ban b where he says the presidency that they fought for and won is over. he has hesitate weapons back, meaning his media weapons, and he vows to, quote, crush the opposition. bannon has been under fire for a long time from many outside the white house who believe that he represented a big megaphone for those on the extreme right, including alt-right white nationalists. the president has defended steve bannon, others have, as well, saying he is not racist, that he is more about economic nationalism and populism that was certainly reflected in the president's campaign. at the same time, there was criticism that bannon was sometimes fiercely fighting against other top advisers. this is a turning of the page. we've seen a number of top

advisers including sean spicer, reince priebus. bannon has been warring with the new national security adviser, hr mcmaster. so this is a big change for the president, someone who had been really reflecting a lot of the base for president trump, someone he could discuss sort of those issues with. now out. unclear if there will be anyone brought in had in his place, but he was the chief strategist, not necessarily a role that a white house must have. we are also waiting to see if there will be additional dismissals of people allied with bannonen inside the white house. but very big news for the trump white house on now day 16 of the president's administration. >> how should we read into president trump not yet tweeting about bannon? he's an impulsive tweeter. what do you make of this?

>> i think the strongest signal is that the statement that it was chief of staff john kelly who said friday would be his last day. the president did not speak to this. the president did not make the statement he did the that reince priebus is a good man and now he is out. the absence of doing this, given the fact that bannon was a top official in the campaign and has been at the president's right arm throughout these months, his notable one way to look at it is to say that bannon has a sizable following in the president's base. the conserve he right and to not criticize or make more attention at the presidential level of his dismissal might be a way to try .sort of keep things calm. we'll be looking for that today. you're right, it is notable, the president hasn't tweeted or commented about bannon being

out. >> and bannon, of course, was using all that language about going to war with trump. how is he expected to go to war for the president? >> well, this is an opportunity for the president's outside former adviser to really be tested here. will he be working against president trump or will he be working against forces inside the white house with whom he had been battling? moderates, as he would say. you're talking about gary cohen, the executive -- the director of the national economic council. you're talking about the president's daughter and son-in-law, others who have been, really, from a different part of political thought than bannon. so will bannon use the tools of breitbart and conservative media to go after those figures in the white house or will he support the president in the outer, you know, media community? those are the things we're going to have to see. he talks about the trump presidency being over.

that is a very sort of damning statement from bannon where he believes the direction of the trump white house is not in line with the ideas that he holds as most important. so expect him to be not someone who slips away quietly. >> not at all. thank you so much, kelly o'donnell. >> and in a moment, the latest from barcelona, the latest on the investigation and the search for the elusive driver in that deadly attack. kristin dahlgren will join us in just a moment. ♪ ♪ award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. this august visit your local volvo dealer to receive sommar savings of up to $4,500.

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officials in spain say they've broken up a terrorist cell in barcelona. kristin dahlgren is in barcelona with the latest. what can you tell us? >> so this morning, the spanish government came out and briefed

the media dk. excuse me, we seem to be having some difficulty. here is her report right now. >> in a town north of barcelona, more arrests. the crowd yelling murderer as one suspect is taken by police. four men are now in custody allegedly linked to two attacks that left 14 dead and more than a hundred injured. five other suspected terrorists were killed, shot by police in the seaside down ocambrils after the attack there. among the dead, 17-year-old musa but this morning, spanish authorities are still on the hunt for younes because police

believe he may have been the driver of the van. among the dead in barcelona, american jared tucker, celebrating his first anniversary with wife, hidedy. back home in california, his father still in shock. >> i don't know how you feel. i -- i'm not angry, necessarily. you know, but more importantly win just don't understand it. it's hard to understand how anything like that can happen. >> the ricus family is now back in the states. they were just feet away from the carnage. >> we were runner to our lives. >> as memorials grow along the pedestrian walkway, there is sadness and solidarity, the crowd chanting i am not afraid. the popular tourist the deaf nation, as crowded as ever, amid

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