(spiritual chatter) seriously anything to help you get your home. ally. do it right. hey there, everyone. right now, we are watching police in boston, massachusetts try to clear the streets after tens of thousands of people demonstrated in opposition to a right wing rally. arrests are being made and police in boston are planning to hold a news conference at the bottom of this hour. we'll bring you when it happens, although the protests are mostly peaceful. the police tweeted this, asking individuals to refrain from throwing urine, bottles and other harmful projectiles at our officers and then confirming rocks being thrown at tree monte and west. a short time ago, the president of the united states tweeted looks like many antipolice agitators in boston. police are looking tough and

smart great job by all law enforcement officers and the mayor. marty is in washington, has been there all day. continues to follow the protests. what are you seeing from where you are? >> i'm standing at the intersection. i didn't see this tough being tloub, but there is a big nod of people here. this is a last collection of counterprotesters that have been here all day. many marched several miles to get here. earlier, most of folks trying to get their message out have gone home, so we've got a smaller, more committed, if you will, group remaining here. sort of the last blocked off street. there are a number of police up the street and this collection of folks is not going to be allowed to stay in the street much longer.

car is crashing into pedestrians and starting to clear that stuff out of the way. you can hear the people behind me starting to chant black lives matter again. so the protests continues here, jacob, at least for now. >> we're going to continue to check back in with you for the latest updates from boston. we know the president is wat watching what's going on there as well. thanks a lot. standing be by out here in los angeles is lucy, protesters have been gather here to protest the alt-right as well. lucy, with we saw some skirmishes in boston. what are you seeing out there in venice? >> cool and relaxed here in venice. it is california after all. rather small but vocal group of protesters. this was supposed to be a case of duelling rallies. originally, the so-called alt-right had scheduled a series of google protests to demonstrate against the

company's decision to fire james demor, who was fired by the company. they had scheduled protests at nine different google campuses across the county fri, including headquarters and in the so-calleded l.a.'s version of silicon valley. and so, those were supposed to take place. these were the counterprotesters who came out to voice their displeasure with the president's policies. they say the people say they believe president trump had em boldened the white nationalists across this country and they have turned out here to say no to hatred, to bigotry. those antigoogle protests though were later canceled. the organizer who was a well-known proponent of the pizza gate conspiracy said he canceled these because they were receiving some sort of terrorist threat from the left. now, i can tell you, the lapd is not aware of a terrorist threat. perhaps because these protests were scheduled before the horrific events in charlott

charlottesville, perhaps organizers didn't want to be associated with wa went down there, but at the end of the day, in anti google protest, all we have now is celebration, dancing and people coming out to voice their displeasure with president trump and the policies they believe he represents. >> no surprise in venice, beach, los angeles, california. silicon beach. thanks a lot for that. kelly o'donnell is covering the president in new jersey where he is on b i believe the penultimate day of his working vacation. tell us more about what we're seeing from the president and his response to what's going on in boston. >> well, jacob, we have just heard from the president on this. i had actually reached tout white house advisers earlier in the day the to say is the p president watching and have an assessment? the answer came through twitter. he has done kouchl things. his first tweet might raise eyebrows. he says looks like many

antiagitators in boston. police are looking tough and smart, exclamation point. thank you. antipolice agitators is the president's is language that will draw criticism. he tweets great job by all law enforcement officers and boston mayer. marty wall b sh. he's a democrat and the president is including him in h his praise. we know the president likes to position himself as a get tough law enforcement friend. and certainly, there's room for him to acknowledge that things went well today there and to be supportive of the -- when you see the president use des krypstive, that is a an

interesting and limbed view of who was participating today. the president adds to the dialogue and stirs the pot a bit as well. >> i, too, found that second tweet interesting because normally when he tweets, he does one after another. he doesn't thread his tweets. that outreach to democrats came in a thread. i found that curious. just like you did. kelly o'donnell in new jersey. thanks a lot. i want to bring in the chief washington correspondent for bloomberg news, managing editor of the grio.com and civil rights attorney. so, we're looking at these tweets. much different than last week, although kelly pointed out in the first tweet, kind of stirring up that antipolice agitator language then thanking the mayor in the second. what are you thoughts? >> i'm always happy when he espouses his law and order policy and gives praise to the

police department as well as the mayor in this respect. so that is good. just hoping that he's not riling people up. >> hoping he's not rile iing pee up. kevin, when you look at what the president doing today, is there an attempt to get people fired up about what's happening on the streets? >> well, no question this response at least these tweets we've seen in the last couple of hours is very different than what we see following charlottesville, but it is note bable he issued some praise for the democratic mayor. that said, there's just been such a collective america holding its breath in the past week as it's watched the unfolding of the drama coming out of washington, d.c. most notably with steve bannon being out ed from the administration. >> let's talk about steve bannon being out. the president's chief adviser going back to the company he founded. just wanted to ask you, the president asked you this morning before he tweeted this, steve bannon will be a tough voice of breitbart news.

fake news needs the competition. despite this tweet from the president, is steve bannon more disruptive to order in the white house being at breitbart than he was within the administration? >> i think he very much is more disruptive out of the white house than he was inside. now, he doesn't have to answer to anyone. or worry about or reflect on what his move may or may not do to trump's kind of inner circle. he can just operate the same we he was operating before he joined trump's campaign last august. so, i think he's much more dangerous back in his comfort zone at breitbart to shake up the system, to bring down the system, to do all the things he tried to get donald trump to do from inside, now, he can do with free reign from outside. >> not only that, he's got buddies. inside the white house. they're loyalists like steven miller. deputy assistant to the president, sebastian gorka. do you think they also need to be remove d along with his othe

allies in order to secure this order in the white house that we know that chief of staff general john kelly is so desperately seek something. >> if they are trying to put out they're against the neonazi white supremacist movement, they are going to have to clean everybody out. but at this point, trump is also in some kind of danger that bannon is going back to breitbart. so, anything that trump does, that bannon doesn't like, breitbart is going to publish that. right? and so, trump is going to have to be a bit careful if he cares about what he publishes. >> in the past hour, i've spoken with several sources. this is someone who's going to have a defining shaping of their conservative base for several years to come. just last night, i was told he spoke on a said they've got to

be a vanguard for the republic, end quote. this is someone who deep ties in the white house. we saw this on the stock market, which butch bumped upward. we can talk about the battle line, but we have to talk about this notion of nationalists versus global iist and i think from you look forward from t the -- you look at the tax battles ahead, this is a significant issue for lawmakers in congress as this voice become imboldened as the president continues on ward to try to hope to accomplish a legislative agenda. steve bannon bottom line, not going anywhere at all. >> let me ask you b about kevin's reporting. steve bannon was a stropg opponent of you know, long held u.s. trade deals with other

nations. like nafta and tpp. is there quoing to be a stronger globalist word called globalist influence without steve bannon inside the white house? >> i don't think so. i think he's trying play nice. i think donald trump might be trying to cover himself, but he has a pannen issue. he's aligned himself with this guy. he's endorsed the people that read breitbart and trying to galvanize and pretty much gatt e and rise up against this kind of american system. i think bannon isn't going

anywhere and i don't think trump can find a way to dif wrennuate himself i don't believe his arrival is going to tame trump. this last few weeks has been as chaotic as the first six months, so i don't think chief kelly has had such an impact, even with bannon leaving the white house on friday. >> we know steve bannon told "the weekly standard" during an interview yesterday, quote, we still have a huge movement. we will make something of this trump presidency, but that presidency is over. it will be something else. and there will be all kinds of tights and good days and bad days, but that presidency over. does that mean steve bannon's potsy is ovpresidency is over? >> yes and it's a bit threatening. he's telling trump hey, i'm trying protect you. from the establishment and trying to secure what my presidency was supposed to be and keep it in the white house. so that is what i'm talking about. bannon in the white house.

at a breitbart, where ever he is, he's still putting the trump presidency if trump wants to be b smart, move tax reform forward and line himself with the republican establishment, he has to move away from steve bannon and all of his cohorts. that's just the way it has to go. >> so, but how does he do that when so many republicans are running for the exits? >> i spoke with an aide of paul ryan yesterday who said the speaker of the house and paul ryan have not spoken since tuesday, so i think from an an eck doe tall standpoint, the fact that the republican speaker of the house and president of the united states have not spoken at least as of yesterday following what has been b a turbulent week, inside of washington, yes, t august recess. yes, their staffs might be talk ing, but this is supposed to be the time when lawmakers in the white house particularly when

they're in the same party, are beginning to craft policy agenda items. you know, get out of the weeds for a second and let's just focus on it. the meamerican people, yes, hillary clinton won the popular vote, but they gave republicans at the epd of day, a majority in the house and senate and the republican white house because they wanted lower premiums and wanteded to have lower taxes as of right now, the president has not been able to akoccomplish tt and democrats have been successful in pushing back. to the american people about the advantages of the affordable care act, so i think at the end of the day, all americans right now across the board want there sob some type of victory, but if you look at the calendar, there's going to be a lot of political theatre to say the least coming up in september. >> yeah. i don't know. we'll see if any of that happens. kevin, as always, good to see you. great to see you both. everybody stay tuned because we are closely watching the situation in boston, massachusetts. where police are now working to disperse protesters.

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we continue to watch t developments in boston, massachusetts, where a crowd of antiwhite supremacists antineo nazi protesters took the streets today in response to a plaped alt-right rally in boston common. right now, they're dispersing. there have been several confirmed arrests, but no large scale violence. a peaceful protest. the voices of the counterprotesters were heard much louder than those on the

alt-right. going to keep our eye on that. police are scheduled to speak at the bottom of the hour around 4:30 in boston with an update. this all brings to mind that for the first time in decade, white supremacists and neo nazi groups are openly taking to the streets in america. waving swastika fla flags, carrying torches while raising their arms in hitler salute these rye rots shocked many, but came as no surprise to the southern poverty law center who has been tracking the rise of extreme hate groups and warning of a search in hate violence since the election of president trump last november. they've seen a rise in bias motivated crimes. joining us to talk about hate fueled extremism is lecia bro s brooks. grateful to have you with me today. i want to start with what happened in charlottes arevilvie

quote brought together this group. some of them, the splc has been watching for quite some time. who were those groups we saw and what do you know about them other than they're racist? >> well, we saw a mix of ne neo nazi group, white s supremacist groups, kkk groups. it was a coalition. typically, these hate groups wouldn't work together in way, but this speaks to the em boldment that's come from the far right and this is a part of their strategy to take back america. >> some of these groups are just blatantly auated. others say they're quote alt-right. brian levin said that's silly. do you see a difference between the alt-right, brit bart, steve bannons of the world? >> the term alt-right which was

coined by richard spencer, who was a a white supremacist, it's just a rebrands of the title as was the term white nationalist. that's another word for white supremacy. they are white supremacists. >> they're not only, they're not the only ones engaged in targeting hate extremism. splc compiled this list of organizations that were driven with wii antimuslim, anti lgbt, black separatist ideologies. what ties all of this together? what leads the splc to classify something as a hate group? >> well, as you mentioned, we identified la16, 900 active hat groups in the united states. the vast majority are white suh prem sises. they are broken down. racist skin heads and the like. now, a group lands on our anti,

our hate list, because they have a belief that vilifies an entire group of people based on they immutable characteristics. they don't have to engage in any violence, but they have a belief and recruit other to that to vilify a group of people. >> and you know, i sat down with this guy, will wriam johnson. he fits that definition explicitly because he like so many in the alt-right would like to see white ethno state. what would you say to those people, who say they're victimized by people who hate them, who want to sensor their right to free speech. the group complains of being kicked off of online platforms. >> well, you know, that's just part of their larger narrative. the lie that, this lie about white general they call it. it really has more to do with the shifting demographics

happening in the united states. about five or six years ago, it became known that whites were going to become a numerical minority by 2040 or 2050. now, they're try iing to victime themselves and say they're pushed out. we heard that at a prerally in charlottesville on friday. you will not replace us. jews will not replace us. that's a direct reference to this notion that di versety and inclusion pushes out white people and they can they can shift that and they cannot. >> all right. it's great to see you. great to have your insights and i hope to talk with you again soon about this. appreciate it. >> thank you, ja. >> p up next, why the president and first lady of the united states are not going to be attending this year's awards ceremony and coming up here on nbc at 7:00 p.m., joy reid hosts

a special report. politics of hate. joy will be b join ed be pi a special panel of guests to discuss the aftermath of charlottesville and today's rally. that happens at 7: p.m.

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we are watching a situation in boston, massachusetts. what you see is what's left of protesters who came out to stand up against the alt-right protest. you just saw the picture go right on the right is a news conference that should be getting underway shortly by the boston police department. in the meantime, as thousands across the country take to the streets raising their voices against hate, the debate over white supremacy carries on. the host of a popular cable news

show offers a unique perspective, just cable, eddie wong here in los angeles, the star of wong's world on viceland tv. good to see you. so, we're back here talking about you know, getting donald trump and all this violence in charlottesville, the president's response to what happened last week then people continue to take to the streets. how do you process what's happened? >> well, i just never thought that we were going to see the klan, nazis, white nationalists out in the streets of america without their masks and hoods on, proud and growing their numbers. this is to me, insanity and i feel like it's a step back like almost 50 years back. did you ever think this was going to happen again? >> of course not. the reason why they have you back here, you've been follow thg. for your series on vice, you sat down with a white nationalist in washington, d.c. around the time of the inauguration. can i play a clip then we'll talk about it.

take a look, guys. >> i want to know how the it is you voted for donald trump when you're so into facts because his entire campaign is not based in facts. it was all based in propaganda and emotion. >> i voted for donald trump for one reason only. his policies if implemented would slow the dispossession of whites in the united states. >> so, why did you want to sit down with this guy and what did you learn when you sat down with him? >> there's always a concern like hey, are we giving a platform, giving credence to somebody who's going to propel hate speech and promote an agenda we don't believe in. but i started to see this gain steam and we sat with him after the inauguration and i felt like it was necessary to not just be an echo chamber talking to others, but to engage someone from the alt-right that believed

in the purity of the white race and addresseded the points head on and dismantled them because there are not facts understood lying these opinions. this is straight up hate. i felt once and for all, at least for myself and the viewers, to take it head on and debate it. i think a lot of us brush it under the rug or say it's so crazy. we know why. but i think some times, it's important to take it head on and show everybody, especially the kids watching, there is no crede bability to what this man is saying. >> not only that, it's here and exists and you can't turn your head away from it. i got a leet lot of heat also this week for sitting down with william johnson here in l.a. but the reality is, if you don't talk about it, nobody's going to know about it. you wrote this week, you recalled seeing a kkk member when you were 14 yearses old in orlando. you asked your friend, do you

think we can do anything, he said i mean we could tp their house. you responded. ub you said they'd kill us if we found out. yeah, the klan doesn't play, bro. plus, if they're really bad, the cops will find out. you see parallels in how you reacted then. kind of said let's see what the cops do versus how people were reacting to trump today. >> yeah, the thing is that we can never be so confidence that we just don't address these things. if there is hate, if there are these extreme radical view, we need as a chunt xhoo, take it head on, talk to them and try to like steer them back towards being productive members of society. you know what i mean? when we talk about punitive punishment, in the penitentiary system, i'm in favor of rehabilitative punishment, when i see somebody that's just gone off the rails like this, that is hateful, like we have to try to engage them so no one is

confused that there's no credence to this. >> do you think there's an opportunity the take the racist people that we saw in the streets of charlottingville that are going to continue to come out of the woodwork and change the way they think? >> i think throughout the race in 2016, people ignored it. everyone thought trump was going to go away, but because nobody took them on an put it down like logically reasonably, not violently, not in favor of violence, we just figured it would go away, but nothing goes away unless you make it go away. and i think that we took this way too lightly. we took donald trump way too ligly and now, look what's happeneded. we've set the country back 50 years. these guys are out in the streets and they're not scared. >> i want to remind everybody. we are talking to eddie wong. we're also monitoring the podium on the lower right hand of your screen in boston, massachusetts, where we expect police to talk soon b about protests.

we're going to take a quick pause because there's the mayor. watched and stood for peace and love, not bigotry and hate. except for that guy. and i think it's important for today in our city, there's been a lot of work done to be able to come in and to be able to protest, to be able to express themselves all the way from roxbury community college to boston common, i was at roxbury community college earlier and you can just feel a sense of pride being there. that people are going to come out and make a statement about how great we are in the city of boston, so i want to thank the people that came out today, who came out to share the message of love not hate. to fight back on racism, on antisemitism, on the white suh premists that were comes to the city. i want to thank everyone that came here today. i want to thank everyone who came here and expressed themselves in such a positive, great manner today.

i also want to take a special moment to thank the members of not just the boston police department, but the -- police department, the state police as well as any other law enforcement authority, ent, fire department, for helping us. what people don't really understand is that many of the people that were here working today were ordered in to work. it was their day off. their saturday, their weekend. but they came in here. they carried themselves with dignity an i'm proud of that work and the fact that here in boston, we're able to have a very successful day. and again, i want to thank you. i'm going to turn this over to the commissioner to talk about details about the day itself. >> thanks, mr. mayor and like i said, the day you know, for the most part, it went off just as we had planned. i think you're clearly seeing we had both group demonstrators separated. and i think three groups of people came here today.

>> speak up more. >> there was three groups who came here today. obviously you know, the group for you know, the one for free speech. we had those who opposed the free speech and those who came here to cause problems, but overall, i thought the men and women of our department and all the other agencies who helped us performed really well. you know, it was long day. it was a hot day. and the separation worked well. when we went to move them out, there was a little bit of confrontation. i think you've seen public order platoons come out. that was the pln. i was hoping we wouldn't have to, but i thought they did a good job moving that crowd. that's what they're traineded for. sometimes, it doesn't look pretty, but that's what they're trained for and i watched how it was done and i thought they did a great job. i was witnessing bottles being thrown at them.

i was seeing cones. a lot of insults, but they held the line well and although again, everyone did a good job, 99.99% of the people here were for the right reason and that's to fight bigotry and hate for the most part here today. we knew we were going to have some people who were going to cause problems and we had to make the latest is 27 arrests so far today. most of them disorderly. a couple assault and batteries on police officers and other charges, but overall, i thought we got the first amendment people in. we got them out. and you know, and no one got hurt, kill ed, and we don't really have a lot of problem. in fact, we have no significant at all property damage to the city. so, great day for the city. and i'm really impressed. probably had 40,000 people out here. you know, standing tall. against hatred and bigotry in our city and that's a good feeling. >> seemed like the free spech

was pretty maul around that. was it smaller than you expected and did you have any problems with them and when did you decide to put them in transport vans? >> i didn't anticipate a whole lot. we had meetings with the individual who was leading it. and based on our discussions, i knew what we got, i expected to tell you the truth and that's why we had strategy. and we had the exit strategy out the back that worked well unfortunately as you've seen, we had some kids block the street and it got a little confrontational, but they were given every opportunity to move as you're seeing, we had to do a little pushing and shoving there, but even then, i was there, they were getting hit with bottles. getting pushed and i thought they did a good job moving that crowd. so, you know, the plan went off the way we hoped to and thank god nobody got hurt seriously. in fact, very little injury and very little property damage today.

>> can you speak about the perimeter between the protesters and the -- rally. how far of a space was that and why -- >> well, i think it was set up that way for a few reasons. number one, we didn't want what happened in you know, virginia to happen here. we didn't want them at each other's throat. also, there was a lot of talk in the week leading up about bottles between thrown with urine at our officers. i wanted to make sure that you had to have a good arm to basically slow and get at them. so we basically wanted them to separate. did have boll t thrown with urine. they were hit with that. they were hit with a lot of stuff today and i'm very proud of the job they did. it goes to the profefrom -- >> i'd estimate 35, 40 yards. again, we don't talk about

numbers here. enough to do a great job b the way they did. >> president tweeted hours ago, they were quote many antipolice people here. would you agree? >> i'm not going to get any politics here. we had a plan to get everyone in here safely today and get out, so i'm not getting into anything. i'm real proud of the people the way they came and stood up for hatred and bigotry and more proud of the way my officers hand ed that crowd. >> the organizer of the free speech rally says that they plan to do a longer program, but the police shut it down. is that accurate? >> no. not to my knowledge. you know what, they came in here, we made it clear. they had their speakers. i think they knew 20,000 people were approaching and so, that was you know, mutual agreed that they would get in to the wagons and we used the wa develops to just get them out. >> they said some of the speakers that had planned, that

they had plans to join the free speech rally were not allowed through the perimeter to get to listen to the speeches or participate. is that -- >> you know what, we had a job to do. we did a great job. i'm not going to listen to people who come in and want to talk about hate and you know what, if they didn't get in, sh it's a good thing because their message isn't what we want to hear. >> last question. >> can you talk about the soft approach you took today? >> yeah, i thought again, if you looked at us, we pedals almost 20,000 people down here real soft. we got in here inside the perimeter. had our bicycle officers, had officers with soft hats. it wasn't until we aren't able to get the wagons out here on boylston street that we had to bring the public order platoons out to get them out safely. i thought that went real well. there was a lot of pushing and shoving there, but that's the way they were trained and i thought they did the best they could under the circumstances and you know, i'm proud of the way they did it.

we train up for events like this. and you know, we've handled occupy, patriots parades and i was confident in the job they would do and i think you've seen it done today. >> was there anything you've proved today? >> what's that? >> done anything security wise? >> i mean, we'll have a team back after this. we always dewreef after this. but you know what, we had a plan. we kept the distance. no one got hurt. we have no vandalism, no nothing. so i couldn't ask for more. you know, obviously, i wish the troublemakers stayed away. but we anticipate them. they weren't here for either said. they were here just to cause problems. >> thank you, everybody. >> media relations. >> what's that? >> are are there white supremacists that actually -- >> well, we don't know if they're white suh premists. we did stop three individuals who everyone of them had ballistic vests on and when we

got the vests back to the station, one of them had a gun on them, so there was people who came here i think to cause some harm, but we were lucky to get those three out of here and confiscate the vest, so between the bottles and everything else, again, i'm just fortunate that none of my officers got hurt. none of the public got hurt and you know, overall, it was a good day for the city in saying that we don't tolerate hatred and bigotry in that city and people really came out to say boston is united. that's thnot what we're about h. >> folk, thank you so much for coming out. >> all right, that is the police commissioner of the city of boston. william evans, we have been watching a news conference that included himself and the mayor of boston, marty walsh, a man who the president of the united states also thankeded. headlines out of this news conference. 27 arrests there in boston. no major injuries or property damage. a couple of assault and battery.

arrests. as this press conference took place, new tweets came through from the president of the united states. some might say out of character. our country has been divided for decades. sometimes, you need to protest in order to heal. obviously, a typo there by the president. we will heal, be stronger than ever before. i want to applaud the protesters in boston who are speaking out bigotry and hate. our country will soon come together as one. i think he redid the tweet with proper spelling. if you look at his twitter. i want to go to garrett on the ground in boston. garrett, what did you hear from the police commissioner and mayor, how did that square with what you saw on the streets today? >> well, i thought the most important thing they both said was this idea that 99.9% of the people came for the right seasons.

upwards of 20,000 people. almost everybody here for to give this message of inclusion, to give this message that hateful speech isn't welcome here. you can even argue that the few dozen here weren't trying to cause trouble beyond they were here to speak. what you saw was the one tenth of 1% who came here in part for the scuffles with police. the commissioner talked about bottles full of urn being thrown at his officers. hard to see how that advances a cause of inclusion or peaceful tie log, so again, you had some folks who came here to cause trouble and the commissioner mentioned one arrest wd a gun on them. that's not something you want to see at a march like this, but by around large, that 99% of folks out here coming for the rig reasons and i think for the people who organized this counterprotest march, this is going to be, this will go down as a good day for them. sort of a victory, they got their message out without violence or property damage and a victory for the boston police

department, who got all of their officers home safe. the most important thing and doing it with a minimal amount of arrests and confrontation with the protesters and counterprotester, some of whom are on the streets, but as you can see, in the last half hour, the nod of sort of die hards out here on the streets just outside boston common has largely dissolved. people going home and calling it a night. >> all right, thanks for your work on the streets of boston today. want to turn to terrorism analyst, malcolm. good to have you join us this saturday. talk to us about what we just heard from the mayor and the police commissioner of boston. >> well, what we heard as a city that had its game ready. and there's a marked difference between the way the police were aligned in boston and what we saw in charlottesville. this police force was respectful, responsive, particularly to the people who were going to agitate. the 28 people they arrested. they grabbed them, quickly pushed them to the back of the

lines and let the peaceful protesters go. more importantly, the mayor made some very good stigss. one, no weapons allowed. no firearms allowed at the protest. number two, no body armor. no large flags armor or large flags with large sticks and that is what the people brought to charlottesville with helmet and other accouterments that gave us the riot that we had pretty much there. and this is why we had such a solidly peaceful protest. i think boston is going toe about the model for any other future protests. >> well said. and i think we would all hope that. malcolm nance. everybody stay with us here on msnbc. eddie huang is still with us. he will join us with his reaction after the break. stay with me, mr. parker. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time...

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i'm jacob soberoff and you're watching msnbc and we saw a very large protest and just

heard from the mayor and police commissioner and back with us now is eddie huang with his reaction to what we just saw. and while this was going on, we heard from the president of the united states. the first one was our country has been divided for decade as sometimes and you need to speak out. and our country will -- our country will soon come together as one. this is really sound like the donald trump we've come to know. >> we see steve bannon is out of the white house and back at breitbart and you are seeing donald trump's attempt at kind of flipping his message, moving closer to centerer, but i will never forget last weekend, august 12th, when he had the opportunity to come out and specifically say these are the people that were wrong. instead of saying many sides and putting the blame on all of americans, he did not take the

opportunity when it presented itself to strike down white nationalists, nazis, klan members, hateful speech and bigots and now he is coming out, even in the tweets, he is not identifying the group that is the aggressor that came to march. the people protesting there and resisting are the ones that are coming in response. >> and by the way, eddie, these are much different from the tweets he made just an hour ago with he talked about look at the many anti-police agitators in boston, police are looking tough and great job by law enforcement including the mayor of boston. when you look at what is going on inside of the white house. you said too little too late. do you believe there is any chance this president could build a consensus not just with republicans or -- or with democrats rather but with his own party and pass any kind of significant legislation at this point. >> well number one, he's inconsistent. his behavior is manic and inconsistent. and when it was saturday, he had an opportunity to address what

was going on in charlottesville and show leet -- leadership and he did not. and then monday had a correction and then on tuesday all hell breaks loose again. so i think that he listened to people around him in moments when they are in crisis and he's like, all right, i'll curb my speech and move closer to center. but he's going -- this rubber band is going to break again. >> i want to talk to you about you. as a person. a human being in the united states. do you have hope for the next three and a half years? what do you expect now that steve bannon is out of the white house and john kelly may be tweeting for the president of the united states, but donald trump is still the man at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> look, i'm always bullish on america. i always believe you have to have hope, that the jedi will return, you know what i mean. you have to. and we're here for this. we all believe in this. we're here for a reason. and i think i that all of these things can become wake-up calls

and make us stronger and we can come out of this better but we have to do the work. we have to address things. we cannot as americans keep thinking someone else is going to handle this for us. or someone else is going to lead us. each one of us in our communities have to stand up and take the lead. that is eddie huang and i'm jacob soberoff, we have more coming up so stay right here.

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hi, everybody, great to have you with me, i'm thomas roberts here at headquarters in new york. today a protest around the country, in boston tens of thousands marching to protest demonstrators gathering in a unified effort to counter the free speech rally. it is ended though. and then to the west coast. in l.a. as another anti-racism protest is happening there. we'll take you there with a live report. and plus the big story out of washington this week, the removal of steve bannon from the white house and the west wing.