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>> announcer: due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ a recent law brings a wave of prison felons to the county jail. creating difficult challenges and greater threats. >> we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, we're seeing greater propensity for assault on officers and staff. which we didn't see before. >> a family man gets a decade in jail for manufacturing weapons. >> it's all home grown guns. you can legally make one for
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yourself, but you just can't sell them. that's where i went wrong. >> a meth addict gives up her prized possession. >> i traded it for $20 and a cheap high. >> but, now, jail introduces both of these men to a cowboy -- >> everybody deserves an opportunity to have that second chance. >> some wild horses. >> watch yourself. >> and the opportunity of a lifetime. these horses show you you are a person. if you don't like what you see, you've got to start making some changes. ♪
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>> sunrise near sacramento brings the pounding hooves of nearly two dozen mustangs who just weeks earlier were running wild and free across vast stretches of western plains. they are sights and sound rarely experienced in a county jail. the horses share something in common with the 2,000 men and women. incarcerated here. each one of them is here against their will with a possibility for a new beginning and, possibly, a better life. rio kasumeness is one of two jails run by the sacramento county sheriff's office. unlike most jails where the majority of inmates are only accud of crimes anaiting trial, about 65% of the inmates
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are convicted and serving ntences. that's due, in part, to a 2011 law known as ap-109. it was created to help relieve the california's state prison systems once dangerously over-crowded conditions. now, thousands of inmates who normally would have gone to prison are diverted to county jails. like the law has drastically changed the make-up of the inmate population with more convicts serving hard time as opposed to shorter term, not-convicted inmates still awaiting trial. >> it has brought some very unique challenges to us. number one, now our jail is like state prisons. before county jails, people would do 3-6 months in county jail. now, we have folks here for 17 years. we're seeing state prison activities. we're seeing folks running their criminal enterprises, at least trying to, from inside our facilities.
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we're seeing greater propensity for smuggling, a greater propensity for assault on officers and staff. we didn't see that before. our officers are trained to be custodians for short-term inmates. so it is really creating a paradigm shift for local jail facilities. >> well, ab-109 is controversial among staff and inmates alike, one of its provisions has proven popular. it provides funding for several new rehabilitation programs that could give inmates a chance to find jobs on the outside, despite the stigma of serving time. that's why the horses are here. >> get that thing off. let's go. >> this is the ranch that was developed by the sacramento county sheriff's department. and the bureau of land management. what we do out here is we take inmates and i train them how to train wild horses to become usable by the general public.
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>> the bureau of land management rounds up horses throughout the western united states. when their population becomes unsustainable. they are brought to various training facilities to to transition from wild to domestic and eventually to be adopted. most of these facilities are civilian-run. rio consumez is the first ranked from a county jail. joel mizer runs the program. >> i've been training horses for 35 plus years. i've been working with inmates for about six months now. i never worked with inmates before. >> i think this is a huge opportunity for guys that don't have the money or think that they're really worth anything or have anything to offer. if they can help these horses become domesticated and usable, they're going to know what it feels like to accomplish
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something. >> there you go. >> see why you'd want to carry that pad like that? these inmates, some of them never been around a horse, never rode a horse. >> we teach them horsemanship from the ground up. you got that down, man. >> this program is a win-win. not only for the wild horses, but also for these gentlemen to learn a skill set that not everybody has. >> gnash dig had never been around horses until he joined in just a few days earlier. just like jobs on outside rookies start at the bottom. >> we're picking up road apples and/or horse manure. this is how you start in the program. you know. i don't know how much they appreciate it or not, but i'm sure they do. they don't want to walk and in their own [expletive] all day.
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you know? [ laughter ] >> i was slightly uncomfortable, at first. i was watching them all the time to make sure they weren't sneaking up on me or anything like that. >> dake will serve his two-year sentence for auto theft and forgery at rio cosumnes instead of prison. >> his prior convictions include burglaries, forgery and theft from an elder. he says all of it was fuelled by a methamphetamine addiction. >> i was stealing. and any money that i could pull in, i was bailing drugs, whether it was from jewelry, whatever the heck i could get my hands onto sell. food didn't really matter at that point. you're just, like, i need to take care of my addictions first. that's how you know it's really got a hold of you. it's got its hand on you like this and saying it's going to make you do whatever you can to
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get that money because i need to feel high. i need to feel that effect. i'm not ready to leave jail. i'm not ready for home detention. i'm not ready to leave this facility right now at all. i would get right back into it and not care. >> now, instead of being strung out on the streets, he's up at dawn to work on the ranch. alongside his bunkmate, -- robert kerry. >> i grew up on a horse farm, so i have some understanding making sure you're not around the back end and stuff like that. just awareness comes with just being around them. >> there's a good way and a bad way. with wild horses, as opposed to domestic. the chances of being kicked are higher, for sure.
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>> like nashe dake, carey is also an ab-109 inmate. he's here for selling high-capacity magazines and rifles. carey has been in the 5-month-old horse program since inception. and plays a sort of big brother role to dake. >> everybody's instructing everybody as they go along. if i've got a guy that's going to be with me for a long time, i can mold him and then i can pass that onto, okay, you want to take these guys and show them the basics that you've already learned and then i can move on to the other guys and show them a little more advanced. >> the other thing that joe has taught us, i've been trying to get the new guys to follow through. nashe is getting used to being around the horses. never really done this at all, so. >> they learned how to work together to get the jobs done and also just follow rules and instructions. i mean, that's probably why they're here is because they said i'm not going the follow the rules. i'm going to do it my way.
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and now they're learning through going through the experiences, the rewards of following along like they're supposed to. everybody deserves an opportunity to have that second chance. working with these mustangs, they teach you how to respected their space. they teach you also that they need leadership. that's what i hope that these guys receive. that they have to have leadership skills and qualities to be successful at training these horses. they can take those leadership skills and just be a better person in the world. >> i look forward to whatever lesson is going to be today. but i learned some kind of a lesson out here, whether it's a lesson of nature, lesson of life, something. there's always something to pull out of this. it's definitely an experience of a lifetime. >> coming up -- >> nice and slow. >> the inmates are presented with a major challenge.
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while others react to a law that is dramatically altered the jail. >> i would much rather be in prison.
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as the capital of california, sacramento is the heart of the world's eighth largest economy. while decisions made here could have global impact, nestled among its downtown skyscrapers and government buildings is a reminder of local concerns. >> the main branch of the sacramento county jail system houses about 2,000 men and women. like traditional jails, most of them are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial and the resolution of their cases. like other county jails in california, sacramento's main jail is also affected by ab-109. a law that diverts convicts from state prisons to county jails.
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>> ab-109 has brought about a different type of inmate in our facility. so people that are brand new, you've got to persevere. a felony drunk driving can be celled up with a guy who has been in prison for 20 years and teach them how to get around the system, how to create weapons, how to be a criminal opposed to a natural rehabilitation process. >> ab-109 has also come with a significant funding for a large number of rehabilitation programs, providing parenting and reentry skills to job counseling programs. one of the more unue proams occurs 30 miles south of the downtown facility, county sprawling branch jail.
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the rio cosumnes correctional center. >> you water those mares there? >> ab-109 inmate robert carey has been in the horse program since it was implemented five months earlier. its goal is to make wild horses suitable for adoption. >> we leave in the morning and we get back at night. we're tired and sore by the end of the day. it's a long day but it makes the day really fast. >> and that's important. carey is only one year into a 12-year sentence for manufacturing and selling firearms and high-capacity magazines without a license. carey said he learned how to make guns from his father who did so legally on their pennsylvania farm. >> it was just part of our every day life. we'd go to the range and spend the whole day at the rifle range and stuff. pick up brass and reload them. that's what i did as a kid behind him. even when i didn't know how to shoot, i would be out on the range picking up buckets of brass so i could reload it and
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stuff. i think the smell of gun powder made me like it a lot or something. >> carey said he had been manufacturing his own hunting guns for years. >> they're called home grown guns and you can legally make one for yourself. you just can't sell them. that's where i went wrong. >> carey said he became financially stressed when he and his pregnant wife separated, with three other children to support. he says a friend put him in touch with somebody willing to buy his guns. >> i was looking for a way out to feed my kids and to survive. >> but you knew it was illegal, right? >> yeah, i knew it. my back was against the wall. i just figured i would just do it to get on my feet again until i could get working. but i said i'll do it. so i met with him. and i sold him one. and he's, like, well, now i want another one to go with it so i have a different caliber.
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i said okay, and built him another one not knowing that he was an atf agent. and that's where it all went bad for me. >> carey says he sold the undercover agent three semi-automatic rifles and several magazines. for the final transaction, he met the man in the parking lot of a department store. >> i didn't get two feet from my vehicle and the next thing i knew there was like all 30 vehicles surrounding me and they were all holding the same guns i was building. it was a different day, that's for sure. >> weren't you afraid. that the person were you selling guns to, was going to commit a crime? possibly kill somebody with these guns? >> to be honest with you, until i got arrested, the thought never crossed my mind. he just seemed like -- he said he was into going to the range and liked to target practice a lot. i screwed up. i did something i shouldn't have done. >> carey, dump it out and bring it over and put it in that pen
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right there, okay? >> carey says working at the horse ranch has helped make his 12-year sentence more bearable. today joe misner, who runs the program, and his inmate trainees are taking on a special project, training a new group of horses on an accelerated timetable so they will be ready for an upcoming adoption event. >> the bureau of land management is bringing four yearling fillies here. they're going to drive it in with a trailer and back it up. 30 days is pretty fast, but a younger horse, they adapt fairly quickly. i and the bureau of land management thought it would be easy for them to gentle yearlings. they're babies. they're only been alive about a year. they're smaller, a little easier to handle. still wild and still pretty
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tough to get to. >> yeah, i can grab another panel. >> i'm looking forward to it exciting, i think it's awesome. to be able to take them off the land they're coming fr and g a second chance. kind of like us. we're getting a second chance they are, too. for me, it's kind of cool. a lot of similarities, we got the wild side we're working on and we're working on that, with them the same thing. >> i'm excited because with these yearlings it really gives these guys an opportunity to gain confidence. you can imagine if they're going to take on a filly that's about 3 1/2 feet tall compared to a thousand pound, four-year-old wild horse that's never been touched. it's pretty intimidating. not that these guys couldn't stand to be intimidated a little bit. but trust me, those yearlings can kick and bite and pretty much ruin your day if they decide to, also. so they'll find that out. nice and slow. >> to reduce the horse's anxiety during the dropoff process, misner has decided to have the inmates watch from a distance. >> we try to keep it as low-key as possible. everybody's new, go slow, stay
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back, keep it calm. when they first get here we've got to give them a chance. they got taken out of a herd of a hundred horses. there's all kinds of new stimuli. >> well, they came in pretty smooth, but they're a lot bigger than i thought what we would call a long yearling. they're closer to two years old than they are a year. i think it's going to be more challenging. absolutely. these fillies are larger, a little bit wiser. and they're not going to convert real quickly. it's going to be challenging, but i think we're up to it. >> mr. joe said it a few times out here, there's going to be life-changing experiences out here that are going to happen that are going to determine who
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you are as a person. and these horses show you who you are as a person. if you don't like what you see, you've got to start making some changes. >> coming up, these horses are really flighty and scared because they just don't understand. >> the inmates meet the fillies. and the nearby gun range adds to the channel.
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sacramento county's two jails, which combined, house over 4,000 men and women, are worlds apart. located in the center of downtown, the main jail consists of concrete towers and small cells where inmates are confined much of the day. the correctional center considered the county's branch jail is in the heart of california's central valley farming belt. once a world war ii training base for army pilots it's a collection of barracks and other kinds of housing units that look and feel more like a prison than a jail. deputy woods has worked at both
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locations. >> at the main jail it's more cell and more floors. and everyone's confined, everyone's agitated, everyone is so upset. everyone's mad. kind of like a dark and gloomy place. here, when you're here, it's outside, it's more fresh air. so it's a huge difference. >> rio cosumnes also houses the majority of the jail's ab-109 inmates. or those who would normally be serving lengthy sentences in california state prison. one of the benefits is that most are now closer to home. so they might get more business. -- visits. >> i'm going to be honest, the word prison kind of scares me, so i've never been. so i don't want to go. but ab-109 is cool because my family is closer, so it's kind of not being like, hey, i'm in prison. it kind of feels better. >> but not all ab-109 inmates are happy with the law. one common reason is that prison is structured for more long time stays. with more comforts than are typically found in jails.
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>> i would much rather be in prison. i've actually gone through the court process to try to get my sentence switched. simple fact that there's conjugal visits. there's contact visits. >> and since carey mcconnell who has had prior drug-related conventions is now serving ten years of a possession for a controlled substance for sale, not being able to touch loved ones has impact. >> it's my fault. i had 12 years clean and sober. i relapsed. it's just a very, very difficult thing for me. >> mcconnell benefits, however, from the job training programs that are part of the ab-109 legislation. he works in the print shop which contains state of the art equipment along with professional instruction. >> so, before you mask it, what you want to do is just pull that off. >> but there's another downside. as a non-violent inmate, he could be eligible for release after serving just one-third of his sentence if he were in state
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prison. as a sacramento county inmate, he must serve at least half his sentence, that's because in california individual counties can mandate their own early release policies and often they're not the same as adopted for the state's prison system. >> i'm doing five years out here as opposed to i would be doing three years in prison and i have a family and two young kids that, like i said, i accept the responsibility for the mistakes that i made, but they're out there waiting for me. >> i'd say the majority of individuals i've talked to would much rather be in prison. people have their own personal television or headphones, some comforts of home they don't get here. there's a lot of infrastructure that a prison has that we're playing catch up to get to. there's efforts being made to give people things to do throughout the day. but prisons have been doing this for a much longer time than a county jail. >> one small privilege at rio cosumnes is the ability to check
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out a musical instrument. ♪ nashe dake said he's been playing music since he was 7 years old. >> this is what is called a classical guitar. it has nylon strings on it. it's a pretty decent guitar. it has pretty good intonation on it. >> what they do, they come to the window, they check out the guitar. i inspect to make sure all the strings are there, all the fret, the equipment is in good use. when they return it we inspect it again to make sure everything is still there. >> it's a bent sorry card. for a guitar pick. >> it's real good stuff he's got going on. he can be able to play with just about anything as you can see. we brought a spoon over there and tried that out, too. he can make anything happen there. he's really talented. ♪ >> dake has been sentenced to
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two years as an ab-109 inmate for auto theft and forgery. >> what's kind of brought me back is the dope, you know, the meth. i know what happens. you know, i know what not to do. and i basically know what gets me into trouble. it's hard out there. i realize i was at my lowest low when i traded a guitar to a pawnshop for money and turned around and bought drugs with that money. my mom had actually bought me that guitar when i was a senior in high school. and she bought this guitar for me for $180. i traded it for $20 and a cheap high. it broke my heart, honestly. when i couldn't pay to get that guitar back, i freaked out. that made me want to use more drugs to forget that i did that.
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>> dake says he hopes that ab-109 will help him do better in his life. he's taking advantage of other parts of the law, as well. >> there's all kinds of reentry services, all kinds of stuff to get you back into society. in a correct and positive way. and that's what i'm looking to do. ironically, i asked god to save my life. and then i ended up stealing a car and coming out here. and my life is being saved and changed. so it's cool. >> coming up. >> i want her to trust me. >> the cowboy shows the inmates how it's done. >> she's a little bit afraid. try not to look at her so much. i want her to just reach out and touch my finger.
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subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. adjacent to the rio cosumnes correctional center is a training facility utilized by the sacramento county sheriff's office. >> this is the sheriff's department range. this is where we come to qualify come qualify as deputy sheriffs twice a year with our firearms.
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we have three ranges here. you can hear there's a lot of firing going on in the range next to us. >> deputies assigned to the jail never carry guns. many of them will eventually rotate to street patrol. >> you hear gunfire all day every day. you have a whole lot of training going on here. we have inter-department training going on day and night. >> we're located right next to the branch jail. and also right next to the horse program. so all three are in very close proximity. at the jail or at the horse program you can hear the guns going off all day long. you can hear the shots. >> you'd be amazed at how quickly these horses adapt to that gunfire. a mustang has to adapt to survive in the wild. if it's not eating them and it didn't eat them the last time it heard the bang, what's the point of getting me all worried. i'm going to save my energy and run when i have to. >> lately joe misner's energy has been dedicated to fulfilling a request from the bureau of land management to train four fillies in 30 days for an upcoming adoption event.
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>> the challenge when they got here, we weren't prepared, we thought they were going to be smaller. our fences weren't tall enough. we had to put up sight boards that they wouldn't jump out of the corrals. we had to bring our "a" game into the program. >> now that misner has spent a few days of one-on-one time with the fillies,e's ready to introduce th to the team of inmate trainees. >> the inmates are going to be working with the two-year-old fillies to learn how to interact. ultimately the goal today is to get these fillies responding to the guys on the ground. these guys will be learning how to breathe, don't get scared. you're not going to get run over, get out of the way real quick.
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things like that are going to be going on. we'll be able to make progress so that we can get them adopted to the general public. and you'll see when we start working with these 2-year-olds, that these horses are really flighty and scared because they just don't understand. >> okay, guys, gather around. see that right there? i'm trying to draw her to me. see that right there, that's good. >> misner shows the inmates how to use a long piece of pvc pipe to build trust. >> it's a way to touch that animal.
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nothing has touched that horse but another horse. it's a way to desensitiz these animals and keep us safe. we can touch them from six, seven feet away and not get kicked or run over. >> i'll just take it down. i'm reading her body language seeing what she's trying to react. that's okay. stay with me, right there. she's facing up. she faced away, i put pressure on. let go. don't try to hold on it, okay. just led go. that's what's going to happen. they're going to get a little wild, a little western here. >> i just keep going to the point where i can touch her, i can pet on her and work my way up to where she'll reach out and touch my hand. i'm drawing this one and this hand is coming forward. i want her to know i'm okay. because we're just going to connect right here for a second. she's a little bit afraid. i want her to reach out and touch my finger. there we go. we just touched. so i'm just going to spend time with her like this. this is just the main thing that just showing her that by being next to her, it's okay. and here, in a couple ys, we'll be brushing her and leading her around and petting on her. >> some of the things that i thought i knew, growing up with domestic horses, is totally different than what, for example, for looking at the horse's eyes. i always just look at them and walk up to them. and we know now that the wild horses think that i'm a predator.
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i know not to look at them. no eye contact. >> so you walk toward the right hip. now relax. these guys are touching wild horses for the first time today and they're doing a great job. but it changes moment by moment. you can offer your hand up to her. just stand your ground a little bit. >> a little apprehensive at first because i wasn't sure how she was going to reaction. i'm going to move forward and do some more work with her. >> there you go. just relax. >> nashe dake is still at the observer's stage. >> there you go. just relax. >> i'm not that worried about getting in there with a horse. it was pretty exciting to see that i'm going to be part of
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that. and have my own horse i'm going to break. >> they're learning how to be leaders right here. they're learning how to offer themselves up and to give something back to something. and the reward is the way that horse responds to them. i don't think they've ever had that in their life. i think for these guys learning how to read the situation is key to their life. and i hope that they'll carry these lessons on when they leave here. >> coming up -- >> watch yourself. you're getting in a bad position there. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of the new techniques. >> carey is not a young guy, he's in his 40s already. a little set in his ways. >> robert carey and nashe dake both confront some difficult issues. >> there have been times when i've questioned whether or not this program was right for me.
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this is not a place to be children, you do not want to be here. >> nobody ever asks for long-term stay at the rio cosumnes correctional center. it's one of two large jail facilities run by the sacramento county sheriff's office. but robert carey and nashe dake have made the most out of it. >> we usually move everything out of the way at dinner time and end up eating at the table. this our table, it doubles as a table for us. we seem to kill a lot of time playing cards, lately. >> carey is serving time for illegally manufacturing and selling firearms. he said he did so during a financially stressful time. he now wishes he had just reached out for help instead. >> i know now that it's wrong. i had other avenues and that man has pride and you know, caveman style, we don't ask for help. we don't ask for directions. >> as a trainee in the wild horse program, carey knows that
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not asking for help could lead to big problems for both him and la nina, the recently arrived filly he has been working with. and when it comes to horses, there are few better people to ask than joe misner. >> we need people that are teachable. willing to learn, and he's got a little bit of time left on his sentence. so i've told him, i want him here as long as he possibly can. >> with another three years before he's eligible for parole, carey has a chance to become one of misner's most experienced trainers. his goal today, is to try to get a lead rope on la nina. >> watch that hip. watch her ear. give her a second here. she's trying to tell you she's not so sure about being caught yet this morning. carey is the kind of guy who will go after a job and he'll stay on that all day. he tries to think ahead and come up with problem-solving situations. that's a good thing to some point. but you also have to be able to
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take instruction and not go yo tt instruction. relax, watch yourself. hesitate there for a few minutes. go back to that same position and hesitate. watch yourself. you're getting in a bad position there. hang on, you may not believe it but you have some emotion coming out of you. now, don't go for the nose, go to the withers. stay to your right a little bit. there you go, touch the shoulder, now walk away, walk away. see how she's drawn to you. i know you want to catch her. she knows you want to catch her. but don't go to catch her, okay? >> he's kind of used to just kind of doing his own thing. carey is not a young guy. he's in his 40s already. a little set in his ways. so him coming in and having to take direction and stay on task and not think passed what was being asked of him, he's had to work at it. and he has. he's really come to the plate and he says things like i thought i should check with you
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before i went and did this. and that's exactly what i want to hear. now reach just slightly under petting her neck and grab your halter rope. there you go. there you go. good. >> it's been a challenge for myself learning some of the new techniques that mr. joe stepped in and is, hey, this is a little easier way of doing it. it's like wow, why didn't i try that. it's just amazing, his ability. >> act like you don't even have to guide her now. >> nashe dake is still in the early stages of the program. he says he was nervous around horses when he first came to the ranch. >> these other guys are a little bit more progressed. so he was wondering at what point am i going to be, you know, involved, really involved in the situation besides picking up manure. but that kind of depends on them. and i think he's realizing that. >> be patient with her, be patient with yourself, you're fine. >> there have been times when i questioned whether this program
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was right for me. but that was when i was still afraid of the horses, honestly. it's a big animal. it's got a lot of power. then i realized you have to take their fear and curiosity and sensitivity to use as a tool to work with them. and you can't be scared. >> dake has been gaining experience by working with some of the domesticated horses misner keeps at the ranch. >> you learn a lot about yourself. the animal ends up being a reflection of who you are. if you're not confident, calm, caring, passionate about what you're doing, then the horse is going to know that. it's changed my attitude toward life. it's like when i leave here, i want to get a job. i want to start working. i want to be productive. i want to be an active member of society. i don't want to sit there and waste my life. with methamphetamine. there's no point in that.
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it's ruined a lot of things. i'm making the necessary changes in order to be somebody. >> everybody needs to know that they're worth something. and just because you've made mistakes doesn't mean you can't change. and a lot of times when you're in a situation that your life is spiraling out of control, you think this is never going to change. this is the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. and you don't know that till the heat gets turned up and you have to either change or stay. but these animals, they touch you. and i see him hugging on his horse. he has more empathy now, more understanding. he's willing to put himself out there for that horse, you know. and it's changing him. coming up, la nina leaves the ranch and both the inmates and the fillies confront one of their biggest challenges yet.
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>> there you go. now just stop, now pet her.
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it's another day and another important lesson for the inmates involved with the horse program at the rio cosumnes correctional facility near sacramento. >> do we lose some horses today? >> two. >> two horses. >> a month earlier, joe misner and the inmates were asked to train four fillies on an accelerated schedule, 30 days instead of the usual 120 days. >> you got to pet her like she's your girlfriend, not like you're smacking her around, buddy. >> misner feels they beat the odds having two of the fillies ready to go. >> these guys have not had the opportunity of years and years of working with wild horses. so we have a school of hard knocks where they're having to
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learn with me telling them, get in this position, move back, get in that position. and they have to figure that out for their results to happen. so i'm extremely pleased with the progress that these guys are showing. >> but the day brings one of the most challenging lessons for the inmates. >> today we brought our horse trailer in. we'll teach them how to load and offload in the trailer a little bit and load up those two fillies and get them ready to be shipped off and they'll be adopted tomorrow, hopefully. saturday they'll find a new home. >> which two are going today? >> la nina and doc. >> doc. sad to see him go. >> robert carey has been working with la nina. >> you can offer your hand up to her. don't pull that rope.
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it's okay. it's all right. just stand your ground a little bit. >> how you doing there, carey? >> good. good and sad at the same time. >> why's that? >> because she's leaving. when i started, i started with the ears and she has a soft spot where she leans into you. when their ears are forward they are calm and relaxed when she first started she tried biting. now she's got it all figured out. >> those the two fillies have become more domesticated, misner anticipates having them file into a small transport trailer is going to be hard considering they were running wild a month earlier. >> hand off to mr. torres. you can hang out and watch and see how this is going. >> though carey has worked with la nina, misner decides to use torres for this last task. >> carey has a strong desire to be doing this. and he's just not physically at the point where he could be effective to where it's going to be helpful.
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it's going to take him a while to get to that point. i applaud his desire to be doing what these guys are doing, but he's not ready do that. when he gets there he will be confident at it and he'll be effective. when he's not confident he's not effective. that doesn't help the horse learn and him too. he's going to get hurt and he's not going to want to do it at all. i don't want him to get hurt. >> bring her back to it. good. >> the guys are showing they're adaptable and teachable. so if they can follow instruction that makes them employable, does it. it makes them able to step up and do something they've never done before but maybe there's a benefit for them. hopefully that's starting to sink in. >> keep her straight. okay. all right. >> it takes a few attempts to coax la nina to get into the trailer.
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>> this time she's going to get all four in. she's going to step in. just bring her all in, love her, pet on her, awesome job, dude. that's fantastic! you just taught that horse how to load in a trailer. >> that horse responded really well to torres load into the trailer. you know, i think carey can do this. >> because la nina seems adaptable. misner risks taking her out of the trailer and giving carey a shot. >> i want to give him every opportunity to do what the other guys are doing too. i need his confidence to get stronger. >> draw her up into you, all in. there you go. way to go, man. you did it. >> i'm happy. i'm really happy. i was really hoping i got to be the one to put her in the trailer the first time. hector got to do it.
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that's cool. i still got to do it myself and put her in there. sad to see her go but like a proud parent. >> a little bit at a time. that's right. you're the man. you are the man. >> i'm not going to tear him down. i'm going to keep building on them just like we build on these horses. you see how we give the horse confidence and reassurance and leadership to follow us. you're okay. you're going to be all right. >> you guys are doing an amazing job here. >> if i can do that to the guys too they can assimilate that when they get on the outside. that's the whole point of the program. ♪
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