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are resources or donations really getting to the most vulnerable communities. while our hearts and minds were very much on the human horror taking place in texas on monday, i was joined by some 5,000 faith leaders and activists at the national mall for the pinnacle of our minister's march for justice. mainly to decry the political horror of the trump administration. more on that later. also on the show basketball legend and civil rights activist kareem abdul-jabbar will join us to talk about hope in the trump era. before we get started, some breaking news. north korea says it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb for intercontinental ballistic missile. here is garrett haake at the

white house. >> good morning, al. this morning first response from the white house to north korea's nuclear test overnight. of course it comes in the form of presidential tweets. the president writing, quote, north korea has conduct add major nuclear test. their words and actions continue to be hostile and dangerous to the united states. north korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to china, this is trying to help but with little success. a couple of thoughts off the bat just reading these tweets. first, the first confirmation of any kind from the united states government that this was, in fact, a nuclear test of the north koreans. that's important, they have misrepresented their accomplishments along the way. second you hear the president say it's hostile and dangerous to the united states specifically. not just to allies and friends in the region. having a specific threat in the

united states and viewing the action through that prism could decide how to respond beyond using words. the third, looping in china. the president has tried all along in his response to north korea to make sure china is seib as both part of the problem in the past and part of the solution in the future. trying to draw chinese in, saying they are being embarrassed by this tiny neighbor country of theirs and seeing if perhaps china can be used to rein in north korea. another sign of how if you other options in the north korea threat. i'd be surprised if these were the last words we hear from the president today. he doesn't have events on his public schedule but he's at the white house all day log and we'll wait to see if he responds further. al. >> thank you, garrett. let's get to correspondent matt bradley. >> president trump used that

second tweet to turn his sights on one of his favorite enemies, china. he said north korea has become, quote, an embarrassment to china, trying to help but with little success. while will president regularly beats up on beijing, the timing of this thermonuclear test did look like an evident to directly embarrass the leader xi jinping. chairman xi is hosting brics emerging economies in the city. this forced this chinese leader to deal with stubborn and worsening threat on its borders while also seeking to project optimistic image of free trade and prosperity. remember, it was only a few months ago china signed on to u.n. security council that levied harsh sanctions against north korea. china remains by far north korea's largest trading partner. it could dock north korea's

revenue by as much as a third. president trump, al, isn't first president to express frustration with how china is dealing with north korea. president obama and george bush before him were all frustrated with lack of resolve when it came to dealing with north korea. once again, all eyes are turning to china and xi jinping and asking to put pressure. because really, al, china is the only country that can apply that kind of pressure because they are the only country that has a rigorous and robust economic relationship with pyongyang. al. >> thanks, matt bradley, for that update. turning our attention back to the devastation hurricane harvey has left on the texas golf course. joining me are two guests in houston, texas. democrat al green whose counties are in houston, and pastor ralph

douglas west of the church without walls. let me go to you first, congressman. president trump visited houston and areas in the gulf yesterday. you were in the room with him. many of us, me in particular, critical of his first trip showing no empathy or compassion or even mentioning the victims. was there a difference yesterday? what did you see in the room that we may not have seen? >> thank you, pastor, for all that you do. we actually did not meet with the president in a room. we were supposed to. we were given the opportunity to greet him on the runway. of course, i was prepared for that sort of dynamic. i had three letters from three mayors to present to the president, place them in his hand. i also had my letter i presented to the president. my letter talked about some of the concerns in houston, debris

removal. but it also addressed something that's much more important, that is the fate of the homeless when we have these types of events. the homeless are going to be homeless before and after. but we have to get more money to the people who help the homeless. those who have the shelters for the homeless and provide relief after hurricane was over. i had many things in my letter. that was what i wanted to do. >> congressman, were you not able to deliver those letters since the meeting scheduled where you all would be in a room did not happen? >> good question. i did deliver, because i was standing at the plane when he boarded, along with other members of congress. i was the last person in line, and i put those letters in his hand. so he received four letters. >> you were not able to have dialogue with him, not able to deal with the content of the

letter or did not have the meeting or be in the room you thought and other members of the congressional delegation thought they would have? >> that is correct. but i did have a moment of dialogue wherein i mentioned the homeless and we have to have debris removal take place in houston immediately and that the federal government should bear the cost. >> pastor west, you pastor one of the largest congregations in the country and certainly in houst houston. you because of the hurricane couldn't get home from a preaching engagement in africa for a few days. i met with you in new york, on the board of action. your concern is not politics but really the recovery after the cameras are gone and to make sure people across the board are involved business wise and humanitarian wise in the recovery. tell us where we are with that now that you have made it to

houston and you're on the ground and you pastor such a large congregation. >> thank you, reverend al. good to be with you today. congressman, good to hear from you also. the city of houston is strong. we're seeing a great galvanization of people from across the city gathering together. it's a tremendous devastation here. in one of the areas where our church is located where devastation is really bad. west houston, water is still standing there. so it provides great opportunities for our community to work hand in hand, shoulder to shoulder together but also in the recovery effort. one of my concerns is that when the water sub sides, and the cameras are no longer -- and the media is no longer covering the story, how then do we go about reestablishing our community. so we need a lot of help. we need a lot of federal help.

we need a lot of money in our communities, but not just in west houston because that's suburbs. we need it in the inner city, fifth ward, trinity garden, acres home, south park, sunnyside, places like that. so it's an enormous amount of work and a great opportunity to do hispanic good for the citizens of houston. >> one of the concerns many have, i was very much involved in the aftermath of katrina and certainly in discussions with you in houston. one of the concerns is that people, developers and others, don't come in and use this as a way to gentrify and remove people. how are you going to make sure working with the congressman and others that the people in the community that you just raised concerns about are involved and it becomes recovery and not removal?

>> that is a great question. that is true. one of the things we're doing this morning in our services is to begin addressing that issue along with people that are in construction in our church. build a big team. not just my church but across the city we can go on today's communities with integrity to help rebuild them. we don't want gentrification where communities are wiped out and people with money, power, and resource coin and displace people. we want to go in and rebuild economic empowerment and where people can rebuild their homes and begin owning their homes and purchasing their homes because that's where real economic strength comes, when people can have their own housing. they are no longer renters, dwellings, they want to have their own properties. >> congressman, how much can the members of the congress and the senate help people like reverend

west, who unlike others there is a lot of controversy around joel osteen and reverend west has a view he's not such a bad guy. i'll take the reverend's word at it but i don't like what i heard in response from joel osteen, let me be clear. putting that aside, how can the members of congress and the senate delegation help make sure that the community is revised long after the cameras are gone, and that we are not seeing exploitation by developers and others? >> two things, reverend. one, it's a participatory democracy. we have to keep the people, citizenry engaged in this process. we cannot allow what is a moment to slip away. we have to make it a movement, as you have talked about on many occasions. the next thing, and it's important, we have to make sure resources in houston are placed

in the neighborhoods so people can rebuild their homes. it's not enough for fema to show up and make sure people have shelter. we now have to move to the process of making sure those homes are repaired and so that people can have normalcy in their lives. i agree with what reverend west said. that is we can't allow resources to be used for reasons other than rehabbing homes and not replacing homes. replacing people, that's one thing we can't upset. i think most members of the congressional black caucus would want to make sure people were not replaced. >> all right. i want to thank you both, congressman al green, congressmand ralph douglas west, stay with you long after the cameras are gone. politics nation will not be gone. the challenge all that need money goes to those who need it most. we'll be right back. (flourish spray noise)

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about getting billions of dollars of aid to hurricane victims, but our resources a and -- are resource getting to communities in need. do race and class play a role in the storm's aftermath? . want to bring in charles d. ellison radio host of "reality check" wurd and staff writer with city lab. charles, we've seen situations too often where a lot of reaction, billions raised, and then we hear not long after it did not get to the people that

need it. where are these concerns in the aftermath of hurricane harvey, and how do we safeguard against what we see in these alleged and other locations. >> thanks for having me on, reverend, good morning. intersecting issues of race and class aren't really being discussed that much, really if at all, in the mainstream narrative. proprietary n right now the focus is obviously recovery. primarily that conversation centers on everyone in the houston area is a home owner. that's not the case. we have a city that has a 30% poverty rate. over 40% of the population actually rents. it doesn't own a home. that population is disproportionately black and also brown. so we're going to have to have a difficult, very necessary conversation about race and

class, which are the most significant aspects of this particular hurricane, particularly in the aftermath of it and as we head into recovery. >> well, if 30% of houston is below the poverty level, if 40% are renters, you can't avoid these issues. you can't talk about recovery if you're not talking about who is the population that has to be recover recovered. >> right. exactly. this is important for everyone, not just important for those who are vulnerable or the traditionally underserved in houston. their economic condition was happening long before harvey hit. but it actually exacerbates the problem of the impact of harvey. it actually makes recovery that much harder for everyone involved, for everyone in the houston metropolitan area. so it also leads into a larger national conversation that we

need to have about vulnerable underserved populations in impact zones from hurricanes, tornadoes, heat waves, from all these climate change instigated catastrophes. you have, for example, the majority of the u.s. black population, much of it dealing with a lot of socioeconomic struggles is in high impact or zones which are very vulnerable to climate change catastrophe. we're going to have to have this conversation and we're going to have to plan for it as well. >> as we talk about having to have this conversation, let's not be naive. there are some that are in this kind of business of redevelopment, rebuilding, that are already beginning discussions. you can't talk, as congressman green did earlier in this show, about recovery and the need for billions of dollars and it not be going to some people doing the business.

so how do we know from today, as these discussions are already happening, and as we're talking about congress coming back in, i think the president asked for immediately over $7 billion. how do we make sure the right people are involved with the right strategy that includes everybody, which includes 40% of the population that are renters? >> right. so we're going to have to have -- >> i'm talking to brent. >> sorry. >> we need to focus on the people who have already been concentrating on these low income populations in the area such as teakeja collecting mone for recovery effort, clinton kelly collecting money and funds and resources for port arthur, beaumont community, which is right off the coast, and which has been perpetually hit by a number of hurricanes and storms going all the way back to

katrina and before. we know that the money and land grab is definitely a concern in new orleans. i reported after katrina about how billions of dollars in tax credits and grants went to developers who for many of them their first order of business was to get rid of the very lowest income people. >> that's why i wanted you to address it, brent, because you did a real thorough job, and i observed it firsthand, talking about what happened to katrina. how do we make sure it doesn't happen here, brent? >> we have to learn the lessons that we saw unfold in new orleans. the developers, the policymakers in louisiana and in new orleans, and honestly in new jersey after hurricane sandy, a lot of them were very transparent about the fact that they wanted to remake a lot of communities over to get rid of the very lowest income, very lowest percentile of people and class of people.

mostly when we're talking about african-americans, latinos. so i think what it is, we have to have those grassroots environmental justice and fair housing advocates at the table whenever there's any kind of discussion about how recovery money will be distributed. if they are not -- if those fair housing and environmental justice and climate justice advocates will not be at the table, yes, it will be our communities that will be on the menu. >> all right. thank you to charles d. ellison and brentin mock. coming up, i like jokes and some sarcasm, but there's nothing funny about the video i'm about to show you. i'll be right back. discover card.

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case. what you're about to see is a clip from a georgia police officer who was seen and heard on camera telling a woman during a traffic stop that they, police, only kill black people. take a look. >> in case you missed it, the cop says, quote, remember, we only kill black people. yeah, we only kill black people, right? end quote. not much to add to that. i'll just say the following short and to the point. first, the police officer from that video now says he'll retire amid the backlash, especially after his superiors told him he'd be fired.

to be clear, this is not another case of, quote, blame on both sides. this is not let's understand the context of the situation. the facts are an on duty white policeman in a professional capacity approaches a white civilian and confides that policemen only shoot blacks. he's not laughing, and he doesn't say that he's joking. maybe he was just attempting to deescalate a situation with an uncooperative passenger. i don't know. what i do know joking or not, sarcasm or not, words like these are unacceptable and should be rooted out of any police officer's lexicon. the reality is to minorities,

they are in fear, even if they think it's a joke, it's not a joke to many people. to be clear, policing is a tough job. i'm willing to give cops some benefit of the doubt. but police departments ned to provide better training for their officers, especially in regards to sensitive race-related issues, and especially now after president trump has decreed police immunity from officer brutality. less not let america become a real police state. we have a long way to go. the fact is, joking about killing innocent brach people now has more consequences than actually killing innocent black people. how sad is that. has more conseq actually killing innocent black people. how sad is that.

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powerful hydrogen bomb. president trump reacting quickly by twitter. let's go now to nbc's keir simmons in china with the latest. >> reverend al, there have been a series of tweets by the president that will be being interpreted around the world, including here in china. donald trump tweeting north korea has conducted a major nuclear test. their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the united states. north korea is a rogue nation, he goes on in another tweet, which has become a great threat and embarrassment to china, which is trying to help but with little success. finally in a third tweet donald trump saying south korea is finding, as i have told them, that this talk of appeasement with north korea will not work. now, here in china, that will worry the leader of china, president xi, who wants it effectively really see stability in the region.

china also views north korea as a country that destabilized will cause huge problems for china. meanwhile president putin flying in here, russia, too, says it is deeply disturbed by the nuclear test, just as china has condemned the nuclear test and calling for calm on all sides. reverend al. >> thank you, keir simmons. on tuesday president donald trump will announce his decision on whether to allow the government program known as daca to continue. but in place -- it was put in place by the obama administration. gives young people, known as dreamers, the chance to study and work legally in the united states after being brought to the united states illegally by their parents. joining me now is mary,

executive center, thank you for being with us. >> buenos dias. thank you. >> buenos dias. what does this mean to real people here, undocumented, brought here by their parents. they have lived here, only know this culture, only know their friends here, that may, if this is revoked, be sent back to a country that is of their parents but really no direct familiarity to their own lives? >> yes. we're talking about 800,000 young immigrants who have grown up in the united states, who have gone to our schools, part of our communities, our families. as you said, actually this will impact citizens as well. it's going to impact the schools that they are studying at, the

companies they are working at. the recent survey shows the 25 -- 75% of the top fortune 500 countries are employing these immigrants. they have been able to buy houses, cars, increase their wages and support themselves and their families. they are paying more taxes and contributing to a country they call home. america is their home. united states is the only country. >> let me be clear. they are taxpayers. >> absolutely. >> they have contributed to this country. they have gone to school here in many cases. you're not talking about people who were not contributors and enhancers of the country. >> absolutely. >> and you're talking about people who didn't decide to come here. they were brought here by their parents and made a life here as anybody else has. >> that's right, reverend. in fact, they are -- they consider themselves american. they are american at heart. the only thing is they have a country that does not recognize

them yet. they are not seen by this government until immigrant youth organized and were able to persuade president obama to use his executive authority, which is the same executive authority that every administration, republican and democrat since eisenhower, for the last 50 years, presidents, like president obama, used his executive authority to defer and provide this temporary protection for deportation for these individuals. they have had this protection for the last five years. it's been a successful program. even president trump has allowed the program to continue. now simply because of a manufactured deadline that the state attorney general from texas, attorney general packson came up with and threatened to sue over daca we're dealing with this. >> thank you. we'll be watching this. thank you so much. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. up next, basketball legend

kareem abdul-jabbar. less than a year after receiving the presidential medal of freedom, he's voicing his concern about the state of american race relations after the tragedy in charlottesville earlier this month.

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twenty year dominance of professional basketball made him a household name. kareem abdul-jabbar is at this point an american institution, whose work off the court includes the silver screen and the written word. along with being hailed as one of the best players in nba history, he is an elder statesman to today's activist, athletes, and entertainers. just last year he was honored with the presidential medal of freedom by president obama. i caught up with him to talk about charlottesville, civil rights, and the political

tightrope that today's athlete much walk. kareem, it's an honor to have you with us. you have written an article about charlottesville, and you talk about the president being cowardly. he should be embarrassed by charlottesville. explain what you mean when you come out with such a forceful article. >> i think anybody that understands the history of our country and that knows what these issues are about was appalled by what they saw. you had peaceful marchers being attacked. somebody tried to run over them with a car. it was horrific to watch, and the president's reaction to it was just bizarre and totally

unbelievable. i couldn't believe that anybody who paid any attention to it could say those type of things and try to find blame with peaceful protesters, saying they were the equivalent of the people on the other side. it's so ridiculous, it doesn't even deserve comment, but we have to talk about it. i think that anyone who would do something like that is really kind of just off of it. >> did you see this country now being divided and those that are playing on the polarization. you have given your life, and even at the height of your sports career, to try to refute any of this kind of not only division but all of this moral ambiguity that even goes all the way to hate, yet you keep

fighting. what makes you stand up. there are people who go to rallies, people marching, but people in their own private space don't stand up. what makes someone as gifted as you've been and prosperous as you've been feel compelled you have to come out and make statements like you're making, and this last statement you issued on the president. >> reverend, i believe in what america is supposed to be about. i believe in it, and i want to see it happen, and i'm going to do my part. i've had the incredible example of others. i think often of john lewis. i've had a chance to meet him and hear him talk. the things that he had to say about his commitment to nonviolent confrontation of racism and the lack of civil rights and political right for

black americans. he told me, he said, if you're not willing to risk your life, you're not committed. this is something that is a lifetime struggle. we're in it for the whole ride. we can't pick and choose. we have to fight these evils when we encounter them. >> i remember you came by action headquarters and talked and we had that photo up. i was telling some of the young people about you. at the height of your career, when you were just coming in to be known, you stood with jim brown and others around muhammad ali. you stood on causes that you didn't have to stand for. you come from an era where people put it all on the line, and yet you're still now fighting. you're a little older than me, but you've been fighting all your life.

one that you said helped energize you was degregory. i hear you talk about john lewis, dick gregory and i saw you with the doctor. you seem to have a lot of reference for your elders, which is the opposite from what we're hearing from a lot of young people today. >> these are people that had shown us how to walk the walk. they didn't just tell us how to walk. they showed us how to do it. they were committed. and commitment means putting everything on the line. your life, all the things you believe in. you can't choose. you have to go in the right direction and do it with all of your being. if you can do that, we can win. it takes that type of commitment. >> let me ask you if you could, if the president was watching you, what would you, an unquestioned world figure and

unquestioned hero of many americans, what would you say to the president? >> i would try to remind the president what the character of our nation is all about. yeah, we've had slave owners that were presidents, et cetera. but they were committed to a more perfect union. the more perfect union has involved civil rights and human rights. so the human rights, giving women and people of color the vote and representation in congress and senate, these changes have made america a better place and have made for a more perfect union. we have to keep on following through on what the founding fathers committed themselves to. >> the language that he has used and the division that he's played on, whether it was against mexicans, whether it was

questioning president obama's birth, whether it was islamophobia, all this kind of dog whistling and in some cases blatant kind of divisiveness reminds me of when i was a kid, and i'm sure when you were a kid, we've heard these kinds of utterances before but never as clear from the white house. does this mean that we're going backwards, or do you have the hope that we're going through just a point that we're going to have to just gird up our loins and find the strength to move on and this could be end up being a defining moment to move forward even further than we were. >> reverend, i've taken heart because of all the people i've seen that have stood up and confronted this message, the one you just spoke of, this message of bigotry and hatred. so many people have stood up against -- stood up and

confronted it because it must be exposed for what it is. it's coming from all segments of society. that's you a make. that's what we have to build on. i know that all the people that feel that way will be involved and will follow through on their commitment for justice and equality for all americans. >> lastly i'm told that when we read you and the periodicals you write for and the things that you put out, that you write these your self. this is not a ghost writer. you're the ghost. this is from kareem. you really are writing from your heart. >> it comes from my heart. i have to speak about what i've observed and what has affected me my whole life. i've got quite a perspective on it, as you know. you remember the experience we

had the summer of '64. >> yes. >> it changed my life. i got an understanding and trying to follow through with it. >> how you act for those around the country was a but it taught a lot of young people in the community and it changed their perspective. how did it change your life? you said it changed your life. how did it change your life? >> it just made me understand, you know, what my community was about, what harlem was all about. and the opportunities that being there presented to us and just the things that we had to follow through on, the things that started in the harlem renaissance. it was like a foundation for black americans learning how to prosper and give their best to america and hopefully receive all the benefits of american

citizenship. that's where it started. and i'm proud of that. i'm proud of being from harlem. i want that renaissance to take flower in all black americans and be something that all americans can enjoy. and we can do that if we continue to keep the struggle going and keep doing the positive things that create change. >> look at what you have become. thank you for being with us this morning. it was great to have you on with a message of clarity and a message of hope. can a rekareem abdul-jabbar. >> great talking to you. i got a new book coming out about becoming kareem. >> really? it's coming out? okay. >> for young readers, in november. >> we will be checking it out. it will be out in november. "becoming kareem," a good gift for your youngsters. i will buy a few and pass them around. >> thank you so much. >> thank you.

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many months ago, we called for 1,000 faith leaders across all religious lines to come together and raise the moral issue that we cannot see hate and bigotry revived in this

country. and many people said, you all will never get 1,000 faith leaders. well, we got almost 3,000 signed up and 5,000 showed up. why? because rabbis and imam's and ministers of every denomination and lgbtq ministers and others say we need to make a moral statement that we cannot drift back away from what was gained and what was fought for. as martin luther king, iii, and i joined arms with rabbis and imams and marched those thousands toward the justice department, i thought about how when i sat with the loved and revered perez, who hosted me in israel a few years ago, he said, reverend al, you will always be attacked by extremism on both

sides. your job is to raise the moral point. don't worry about the reaction. to watch as the hurricane at level four was approaching the corpus christi area, the president pardoned a man convicted of racial profiling, to watch after the march police talking about we only kill black people, to watch people march through charlottesville with torches saying jews will not replace us, that's why men and women of good will, of faith, however they practice their faith, whatever mistakes or misdeeds or exaggerations that was made and distorted in the past must come together now. we came on the day that dr. king talked about a dream. but it was not just his dream. it remains our dream. and he did it with the rabbis and others of the world. let's keep the dream alive. that does it for me.

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good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt in new york. it's 9:00 here, 6:00 a.m. out west. breaking news from north korea. a new reaction to that country's claim that sunday morning, it successfully test aed a hydroge bomb. president trump tweeted a short time ago saying that country conducted a major nuclear weapons test and north korea's actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the united states. we first learned of the apparent test around midnight eastern time when the u.s. geological survey detected significant seismic activity near the main testing site. they say it was a magnitude 6.3 explosion f