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i will talk to mayor of houston, ihouston, sylvester turner. >> i am fully committed to working with congress. i don't want to be disappointed by congress, do you understand? >> can he get a budget passed and keep the government working. i will be talking to roy blunt and joining mekel kerr, matthew contenetti. susan page and eddie glaude jr. welcome to "meet the press ". good sunday morning, we'll get to the latest of the flooding in texas and recovery moeandolpeco.
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we begin with the breaking news while you were sleeping. >> north korea carryin carrying -- whether or not it was a hydrogen bomb of or a larger version of previously tested bomb, the explosion was five or six times powerful as the last test, the north conducted. this comes increasing attention with president trump, last month warning a fire and fieri if north korea continues to threaten the united states. >> lets go to south korea of our own roy allen. do the south korea see this test as the most provacative step this year? >> reporter: yes, chuck, that is huge step. this is a massive explosion. this was registered 6.3
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according to the usgs. it comes at a time when as you are pointing out, there is been an escalation of back and forth. remember, the north koreans fired a missile over japan not long ago and threatened guam and now this. a massive military force by the united states, south korea and japan and military exercises here that were some extent unprecedented and the north keeps on pressing forward. the north korea are clearly testing and pushing the trump's administration to see how they response. perhaps they have lower approval rating and that's not able to get much done and so now they are seizing this moment, many would argue the north koreans are to try to assert their will. this is the regime that's tied to nuclear weapons and advance
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missile capabilities. they see themselves acting in self defense. they see the regime happening. they don't see much coming back to the united states. many analysts elsewhere will tell you the option that is the u.s. have is limited and people see military scenarios playing out of this part of the world is catastrophic consequences. there needs to be seen what more the trump administration will do in the face of this strong provocation. >> ron allen have been in seoul for us, a long day and night for you, thank you very much. joining me now is andrea mitchell. >> dpogood morning. "knee i can't say has conducted a major nuclear test. their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous
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to the united states." south korea is finding and as i have told them their talk of a peace with niamey not work. and yarks andrea, he singles out china and using the word "apeasement." well, the word "apeasement" is an insult to south korea. >> whatever this was, intelligent officials and pentagon are trying to confirm u.s. satisfaction, the scale and size of this is so big. it is likely will prove to be a test of advance of nuclear device, this means they are getting closer and closer. if they have achieve a hydrogen
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bomb, they still have to prove reentry on international, intercontinental ballistic missile. it is so big that they need a much smaller, rather much less of a lift. they can put this type of a war head on a missile and have much more explosive in effect. >> it feels to use a metaphor here that kim jong-un has put his foot on the accelerator when it comes to the program. his father kim jong il conducted 16 missile tests throughout his reign. and kim jong-un have done 84. ron and his report from seoul
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ale alooted that the north koreans are paying attention to trump. is this testing trump or are we reading retoo much into it. >> i think it is both. testing president trump and seeing mix messages coming from secretary mattis tillerson talking about diplomacy and the fire and fieri worse than anything that the world have seen coming rhetoric. locked and loaded coming from president trump. that kind of mix message, the uncertainty about who president trump is and foreign affairs, that's frankly worldwide. i was speaking to foreign leaders about this. we don't know what this is but there is no question that the pace that he just aloluded to i unremarkable. i met his officer. this is a very different north korean leader. >> they're getting some help and there is some reports of
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ukrainian and scientists. is there another outside form of power here helping as well? is this russia? >> this is russia and china in terms of giving them the economic health and energy supplies. the ukrainian report why they were discounted and russia have been helping as well. we see china pushing back against the u.s. sanctions, they are not ready to press hard. maybe this will change it but not clear. >> well. andrea mitchell, a long night for you, i appreciate you coming this morning. >> lets turn to the hurricane recovery efforts now. if there is one number that helps ill separaustrate the bi l biblical -- the number is eight feet. that's 96 inches above the all time record there in beaumont. >> thankfully, harvey is no t
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the deadliest storm in u.s. history. the misery it caused can be hard to comprehend. >> 51.58, that's the number of rain, the greatest rainfall in the continent. 436,000, $7.85 billion, the amount of money president trump requested in federal fund for first round of relief. >> there are 1.75 million housing units. 9% in harris county homes with flood insurance. >> the saddest number of all, 43. that's the confirmed death total so far. >> unfortunately, the number is likely to raise as well. >> hurricane is causing what's being called the thousand years flood. >> i want to take a look at the
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tragedy and survivor and common goods. >> reporter: this whole front yard was grass earlier and now we got two feet of water. >> reporter: behind me you can see this is one of the major highways in houston. the house is flooding. >> i was in such denial. i did not grab anything. >> alarming situation is playing out right now in crosby, texas, the situation they warned by happen is happening. >> the weather in beaumont had been deteriorating all day long. >> we were so heavy. you can see these large helicopters that are carrying people out of the sky. >> we have wraths here.
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>> i just want to reach out to my baby. >> you can find them. he said -- he kept on yelling at the kids and he can hear the kids screaming the shouting, do i need to get out of the van. >> if you cannot get oit, we'll have to figure out a way. i was not going to give up on my son. i was crying crying and histori. >> i am thankful that my children is safe but i have nowhere to go. >> $7.9 billion. >> looks like around 100,000
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affected homes. >> all my essence and my house are all gone. >> i have a garage full of stuff. i keep on thinking what's in there. it is all your stuff being floated away our entire lives. >> past the $15 million mark. >> i think the worst time brings out the best in people. >> what ever we can do to help to help people. >> joining me now is the busiest man in the country now. mr. mayor, sylvester. >> the whole country is pulling for you now. >> we appreciate that. >> this coming tuesday, how much of the city is operational, how many businesses do you feel like can hope or go back to work sets a etcetera, what's the goal for tuesday morning.
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the goal is to open up. city hall we return to functional data on tuesday. >> the school system wills not open, that schedule is set for september 7th the port is opened. and so, we are moving in a positive and prerogative passion. >> i suspect on tuesday, many of our bids will be open. >> 95% of the city is now dry. i am encouraged people to get up and get going. there is still tremendous need and i don't want to down play that. most of the city is dry and i am saying to people, if you can open, lets open up and get started. >> what are your immediate needs right now. >> you talked about this issue where you had to order a small
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evacuation of folks because of the release water in the dam. how long is that going to be in place. it is for those thousand that is have water in them and they'll have to get out. >> let me explain that echlt this is for the area in west western, most of those homes they are not rail. >> to that's probably going to continue the next ten days. what i have said in a narrow temples, those terms are in endated with water. >> i have issued a mandatory evacuation for them. it is dangerous for those who are choosing to live there but it is also filing first responders who are needing to be out there trying to provide protection for them. it is a man story evacuation
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where water exists in the home already. >> that will remarch in place for the next ten days. >> there is been some report over night of the society press about the toxic clean up sites. how concerning are you of the flooding that occurred there. is there any chance you think this could impact drinking water. >> i know you said the drinking water in houston is safe to drink now. >> what do you know of the super fun site and the government on this. >> it is right outside of the city if you will. >> i am, i fell very comfortable of the water testimony schlt. >> maybe along right along the river area. those are theize youds. >> i don't know, i cannot peek
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specifically. >> it certainly be important to have them on the zbrund respect those sites and containing any contamination. i will be visiting some other people in the region but specifically in the city of houston. >> many time are water damage, there is invisible toxics. you know your house have all the water is gone. the mold could be so bad that you cannot live in there. who us making the decision on the house or it can be remath lab? >> is that a federal gofrt is working or something that your government handles. washington us through that. >> that's something that we'll be handling locally. what i have said, most 95 hae%
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is dry, now what we are doing and we started this several days ago, we are going door-to-door. a lot of volunteers. >> first responders. firefighters are going foor to door to check out anybody that we very left behind. >> especially jean yors yo ma e maybe. >> that's going to be our local responsibility to watch out and take care of our neighbors. i am particularly sensitive to seniors, people are disability, people in the low income communities neighborhood hood. thars chast that's a door to dar. >> and what i have said to the president, for example, what we need is rapid repair housing, that's a high profit to provide
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testimonies so that people can by the way in their home they will whey do the hare repairs. i want to ask you about the president's visit, helpful? >> yes, the president vanish relinquishes thst week is positive. >> that's housing and housing and checking own people peeshl in the communities that don't sbez lynette all the attention. >> we need to make sure their housing is good enough for them to live. reducing the number of number. shelters, that number has gone down. this anyway juror selter at its peek. now the number is down 140 o. >> depro removal and every community and every part of this city was touched by the tomorrow and people are putting that
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deprd debris out. when i said it to the president, erz we'll have a public safety. the city crews started on tuesday. >> ner working over but we nod advance funsing. and act, he fished a financial statement that it would be 90 percent varsdirps vediversable. >> lets get going. >> all right. as i said at the top, i know you are among thes of people dealing this. e who the whole energy behind
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all that would have been hard enough if president trump were not weaken by poll numbers in the 30s now. >> testy relationship for his own party. >> joining me now of what could get accomplished this month. senatoor waunt. lets me start ws north korea. >> thanks are not working. these joint military exercises don't seem to have an impact on him to ra chynoweth things backup. the can continues to wrap things up. snast left sna >> that's reft sns. >> sanctions without russia and china being interested in solving this problem don't work every well. the president is yuging everything on the table is not a bad thing right now. both for north korea and more
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importantly for china to think about how kpens consequen conse kent. >> i hope the neighborhoods understand how critical it mattis amendment. >> assumptions now that russian and china. >> north korea appears to be an a fast eck track in their development. how helpful as the russians and the chinese ben? >> fell, you know, there is some sense that they have been more mel full that they should have been and sustaining to the country than they should be. >> everybody in the world as well as particular the ari that is are in the riej had a lot of stake here. >> nobody in the right bind without that this to happen.
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you got a leader that's spoil and lreckless. >> probably the russians. there is analysis of wh why -- there is some diplomatic understanding. >> what are the russians up to. >> is it simply to distrack. >> the russians have a korean interests for well over 100 years. >> it is close to them and another potential for them. the chinese have more at stake and doing more sustain at the economy and doing it more quickly to school the economy down though with this leader, does he really care of the other people in country or he just care about himself and staying in power and intimidating whoever that's necessary for him to stay in power for his own country. >> lets start with the to-do list, i know you have in
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september. it is a full month because there is a lot of holidays so you have probably about two working weeks and getting some stuff done. aid to harvey. does this mean the debt ceiling fight is postponed because of harvey and it is not going to happen this month because of harvey, is it fair to say that all of this we can pack together and keep the lights on for three months and raise the debt ceiling. it creates another reason as to why you want to keep the government opened. no interest and republican leaders on capitol hill of not keeping the government open but the president's attention to this issue, i think puts another reason on the table to get things done in september. there is some religious holidays in september and there are a limited number of days to work, there is child insurance to be extended and the faa. >> you added more to the to be
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exte extended. >> and keeping the government running. some of those things combined, i will say this on harvey, one, the things that the mayor just talked about. the fema money and the stabilization money and clean up money. all are important to do quickly. the sba loan money to get people back in operation, all important to do quickly. that's the money that the president appears to be asking for. >> beyond all that, i don't think we want to make the same missa mistake they made with sandy. we can do this in multiplications just like we did with the joplin tornados a few years ago. >> are you comfortable of raising the debt ceiling with the harvey money. it sounds like the president wants that. >> that's one way to do it. >> you will vote for that? >> the whip and the leaders need to look at how the vote come together to make it happen? >> you can support something like that. >> i never had great enthusiasm
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for raising the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling is paying for things, it is a bills that we encoupe encounter and whether you put that of the debt ceiling vote is something that'll be decided the next few days. >> what's the reaction among senator republicans of the president's tough word of mitch mcconnell in the month of august. is it going to make it hard to get things done? >> they are both tough men. i think they are both long time negotiators and they have been in situations before where everything did not go exactly like where you want to do. members were doing thing in their district. you either supporting the president or does not support the president. >> i want to ask you this of john mccain on friday. he writes this.
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congress must govern with a president who has no experience and public office is often poor informed and can be impulsive in his peach and conduct. we must respect his authority but we are not his subordinate, we cannot cooperate with him. >> the senate and the house and leadership wants to reestablish the legislative branches equaling to the president and not answerable to him. >> for congress to understand fully that these are two separate branches of the government is a good thing. it is a good thing to understand that these are not people that you had much hiring o r firing opportunities of one individual members of the congress decides they need to do. so certainly that's important. in terms of the president's ability and his job. one thing the president understands better than anybody
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in the country is how to drive a message and using new ways of communication and frankly a lot better at that than anybody else is. >> since i had you here, i had to ask you of a stunning comment. he was pretty tough on the president. he said, now comes trump who is exactly republicans are not and who we opposed in our 160 year-history. >> there is not been a devivisi person since. >> any part of that statement that you agree? >> he's a friend of mine, this is not unusual for him to set a standard that does this not set the standards that get things done. we have to work with the president and it is a mistake to get in a fight with the president, it is not a mistake to disagree when you disagree. it is a mistake to suggest
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somehow this president who was elected and list the constitution prescribes and have the responsibility to lead the country, somehow we need to not work with the president, i think it is a bad road to go down. >> is the president decisive? >> i don't think so. i was with the president in springfield, missouri at my hometown talked about the importance of better jobs and more take home pay and how we can get there and believe me, that's a message that resonates with the country. we are almost at the end of a full decade of people's take home pay and what they can spend on their family have not increase. the president wants to see that happening and we ought to be focus in making it happen. that's one of the tests whether congress and the president can do this job. >> when we come back, the president's tough august having taken a toll among supporters. what trump's voters told us this week of what they think of the job that the president is doing so far. it's time to rethink
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welcome and not quite a holiday weekend to the news. we got a lot to get to and i want to get to those through the prism how the president is being perceived. it is a striking moment where one of our democrats conducted in pittsburgh and i am going play some sound. these are all from people that voted for president trump. take a listen. >> he's not presidential led alone presidential. >> the thing that drives me crazy is all the tweeting. >> personal business that he wants this country to be the best. >> he's our president until he gets impeached. >> as much as i thought that he will be a quick learner and delegate to topnotch individual, he has not been. >> matthew, i emphasize again,
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those are the people that supported the president. all of them there. those sounds like graves they are not ready to look at it again yet. >> one thing that struck at me is the criticism of president trump's tweeting habit. you see two different trumps. there i think his supporters and some leaners or independence generally aprov generally approved and things like his afghanistan speech and budget. when he gets outside, those official capacities, when he starts tweeting or dukes it out with the media like he did with the post charlottesville conference, then those supporters going, can he change a little bit. >> they like the system how it is not working. we like somebody to shake it up. they want to see more functions. that's one of the big tests for
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both hurricane relief and the response to north korea. they want to have the feeling that he has some control in these two big challenges and especially north korea. i mean that's a challenge that has the most catastrophic possibility of anyone that we have seen. >> i want to say this. we saw this during the campaign and we saw people questioning his confidence and his disposition and temperament. you remember 1982 when mayor bradley ran for governor of california and we had the bradl bradley effect and i am going tell pollsters that i would lead the pollsters and he lost. folks are going to tell him he's incompetent and tmz are inappropriate and at the end of the day, they're going to vote for him. >> a lot of his supporters tolerated the tweets because they thought that he would be restrained and reign it in out
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of the good of the country and sense of self and preservation and that's why you are hear tin the frustration. i think there is a frustration with the fact that he has not had any legislature achievement. there is so much writing on this which you were discussing with senator blount. >> what can get done this fall? >> they must have the must dos and he does need something of a signature. >> how did he get a signature. they look like they're in conflict >> when you are running down the list of senator blount. >> it occurs that tax reform keeps ongoing down at the bottom of list and address hurricane harvey and its after math. the real key storm is a tax cut of some kind. it keeps going down on that calendar maybe until next year now. >> think about healthcare in texas from both and healthcare, only the president is talking about messing with healthcare. >> this way, the hurricane is a
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tragedy and we are thinking of the people that we have seen in on tv and elsewhere, it is also an opportunity because it changes the agenda. if he can deliver on hurricane relief in a serious way even though it does not get a tax reform. it gives him something where he looks competent and helping the american people in a substantial way. >> if he stays focus on harvey. he will get focused for a minute and he will move over there and he's not. the developer in in him, this could be an opportunity for him to to be actually in his comfort zone. >> i think so. >> i think that's right. we need to understand that donald trump is just a tip of a ideology divide of an iceberg. undernea underneath, there is all of this division and the freedom caucus. and the libertarians. you have corpus democrats and the left. all of this is underneath.
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we tend to focus it towards trump whether success or not. i think you will see some short term harmony around trying to get relief for hurricane harvey victims. i do think they're going to tie the debt limit to hurricane relief that i am being told likely. what happens next, there is a lot of division between the white house on capitol hill and that's where it gets challenging. i am going to bring up ddaca. why houston is vulnerable from flooding and why it is difficult for the city to prevent from something like this happening again. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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35% increase in less than t20 years. one part of houston's population came from new orleans displaced from 2005. people took refuge from the storm. an estimated of those folks remains in houston today. houston is a diverse city. since 2000s its white population declined and hispanic population risen from 33% to 42%. this could present another set of challenge to the recovery efforts. half a million area of residents are undocumented immigrants. what happens to these folks? can they rebuild? population explosions also come with consequences. between 2000s and 2015, over 400,000 housing units were constructed in the population
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explosion. houston has had to pave the way for those residents. >> harris county and bear county is similar in size and geographically to harris county but less than the amount of half of the amount of land. all of this development is led to the paving wetland. the area is less able to absorb the huge amount of rain that we absorb of harvey. >> when we come back, what we learned this week of the russia investigation, we'll have the latest on what was a litany of new developments. n what was a litany of new developments. ♪ this is the story of john smith. not this john smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are
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>> welcome back, oh, by the way, and i say by the way, as my executive producer put in one of our morning meetings says there is a lot of this and that. >> mueller obtained an early draft of trump let firing comey, basically finding out a second letter and mueller is temptiamip with the attorney general and the irs. manafort turns over a bunch of
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notes including with notes of the infamous meeting. susan page, it is a lot of this and that. what does it tell us of the big picture of the way this special council russia investigation is paying attention to you. bob mueller is not happy that there is more attention on him than the blasts, and he is going to persist and he will find things and these are suggestions of them that we don't know now, but we will know eventually. >> the discipline of the president will get tested on the next 10 days on russia and hillary clinton and she'll combine the two when her book comes out. is he going to be able -- he's avoided the topic of russia for him a lot over the last two weeks. will it continue? >> we'll see when the headline breaks that he feels compelled to respond to, if he can resist.
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how central trump is to all of the responses to the russia investigation. remember, of course, he was involved in the statement of the crafting of john junior's statement when news of that meeting leaked, too. this, i think, is a potential problem for the president as mueller's investigation comes to a kind of a climax where he might be asked to testify and that, i think, is a point of maximum danger. i want to switch gears a little bit on tuesday and the president will make some announcement on daca. this is the president's deferred action, and children brought over here illegally by their parents protected by deportation with an executive order by president trump. kristin, is the president going to rescind it? is the president going to ask congress to codify it? where is he headed on this? >> my sources tell me he has made a decision. they won't tell me what that decision is, unfortunately, but they also caution, look, he
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being always change his mind. there's been a very robust debate inside the white house. a lot of people saying particularly in the wake of hurricane harvey, you cannot rescind daca. you cannot take away these legal protections for 800,000 young people. i am told most likely he's going to find a way not to have his hand on the knife and that could mean kick it to the legal system or to congress, but his base is saying they want to see him rescind it. >> eddie, i smell a -- he's going to kick it to congress and ask congress to codify it. look at the responses from orrin hatch. i've urged the president not to rescind daca, hint, i don't want to vote for it. paul ryan, i don't think he should do that. again, he wants to keep it. is he ready to vote for it? rick scott, governor of florida, very close to the president personally and politically and also wants to run for the united states senate in the state of florida, he wants protect these kids. is thissed headed to congress? it seems like if the president wants to pull a political fast one and says i am going to rescind it in six months. >> that makes political sense
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and i'm not sure that fits donald trump's m.o. what i'm interested is in something kristin said. this is about his base and we can think about the policy issues and this is an undertow, that this is red meat to his base and it's a deep seeded anxiety, that this immigration issue is not about securing the border and it's not about jobs and fixing a bad immigration policy. it's really about what houston looks like. it's a majority, minority nation. >> where are we in the party? >> complicating the issue is that the republican party itself is divided. all of the republicans you quoted, chuck, come from the pro-business moderate wing. >> the chamber wing. >> there are two other wings. one is the tea party conservatives who oppose daca for separation of power reasons and of course, you have the working class populists who are for immigration restrictionism and want to reduce the number of legal immigrants admitted. that's two lines of the party versus the pro-business moderate
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wing. i think we might see the end of daca in the coming months. >> very interesting. we'll be back in 45 seconds with "endgame." chief of staff john kelly already on the white house endangered species list? we'll be right back. coming up, "endgame" brought to you by boeing, continuing our mission to connect, protect, explore and inspire.
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>> and we are back. august, of course, brought a whole sea change and the john kelly chief of staff reign here. look at this, he apparently continues with some trump supporters call a purge, if you will. john kelly's pushing out now omarosa because he has denied her access to the president believing she was somebody that was feeding him vibes and roger stone tweeting last night, of course, a political consultant on and off relationship with the president, reporting that longtime trump bodyman keith schiller is leaving the white house. the kelly purge question mark? >> i think general kelly is definitely the chief of staff and he's gaining control in the staff in a way reince priebus was not able to do. he is still not chief of the president and nor could a chief of staff do that, and you see all those signs and that fuels the speculation about how long will john kelly last if he -- if president trump feels like he's
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being managed. >> kristin, it was very interesting, all of the trump reporters called up all of the friends of trump who have now been disappointed that they don't have access to the president anymore or that john kelly listens on the phone conversation. that's -- they're sending a signal to the president that hey, is john kelly's handcuffs too tight on the president? >> i think that some within trump world think it is too tight. look, the president does feel, to some extent, as though he's being handcuffed, but there is broad agreement, democrats and republicans say the messaging coming out of the white house is more disciplined and i can tell you the president is still talking to some of those former advisers and people like steve bannon. he's still getting their mind meld as he's making these decisions and that's some of the push and pull you will see in the coming weeks. >> the schiller think in particular, is there a point where he feels too isolated, where he feels who is with me other than hope? >> keith schiller is one of his friends.
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he might take that as a personal loss if he has distance. john kelly has been through a lot and one question i have is how long is he going to want to remain in the job? >> and there's always the challenge, you know, to borrow senator blount's language as he described another leader, there is another one that spoiled that he has to manage and i don't know how long this is going to last. >> the happiest about john kelly are lawmakers on capitol hill and finally, they're getting a clear message out of the white house. >> all of it gets tested in the month of september. you guys are great. appreciate it. >> thanks, chuck. >> rough week. that's all we have for today. have a safe and enjoyable last gasp of summer this labor day weekend, enjoy the football and remember, we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press". oo >> you can see more "endgame" in "post game" on the mtp facebook page. can see more "endgame" in "post game" on the mtp facebook page.
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could this not be -- could this not be the moment where he pivots to presidential and unifies the nation during its time of crisis? >> only if he goes into trump tower, locks himself in, sends out a different person that isn't donald trump, maybe whose name is donald trump but who is a completely different person and then maybe that person could pivot and become the president we need. he is this guy. and he isn't going to become pres
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