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ready to launch? the u.n. security council will hold an emergency meeting to discuss north korea just two hours from now. a day after pyongyang claims it successfully tested its most powerful bomb ever. this morning new reports that the north could be preparing to conduct even more missile tests in the coming days. future in it limbo. trump set to announce tomorrow whether he will terminate a program that's allowed 800,000 young undocumented immigrants to remain in this country legally. and the cost of recovery.
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texas's governor says the price tag for cleaning up after hurricane harvey could top $is 8 180 billion? will that set up a battle on capitol hill? let's start with the new warnings surrounding the korean peninsula where kim jong un claims to have successfully tested a hydrogen bomb, and there are signs that new tests could be coming soon. it's not clear if sunday's massive underground explosion was the hydrogen bomb, but it was far larger than their previous test setting off a major earthquake in the process. afterward north korea released pictures of the device suggesting it could fit on to a missile capable of striking the u.s. mainland. so far there's no proof of that. secretary of defense james mattis issued this warning on behalf of the united states, standing outside the west wing. >> any threat to the united states or its territories, including guam or our allies, will be met with a massive military response.
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we are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, naemly north korea. but, as i said, we have many options to do so. the u.n. security council will hold an emergency meeting today at 10:00 a.m. to discuss north korea's threat. nbc's janice -- halle jackson in washington for us. janice, let me start with you. what are you hearing about more tests that might be on the way? >> well, not only are there the reverberations that you would expect from the nuclear test, but south korea is warning that north korea could be readying for another launch. possibly an intercontinental ballistic missile. they say there's evidence that there are preparations underway. south korea has been preparing as well. as you mentioned, carrying out the live fire drills firing ballistic missiles simulating what they would say would be an attack that would wipe out the
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regime of kim jong un. they're also pushing ahead with that controversial missile defense system that china and russia are so opposed to. these situations always bring china into question. what can china do to try to reign in pyongyang? the truth is beijing doesn't have a lot of room to maneuver. diplomatic relations between beijing and pyongyang are actually quite chilly. there's no personal relationship between kim jong un and ping. kim has repeatedly embarrassed the chinese president. yesterday's bricks summit which was supposed to be xi zing ping. china could tut off oil shipments to north korea. it would effectively shut down the north's economy. the problem? beijing does not want to trigger regime change. it could mean refugees flooding across the border. it could mean a reuniofied koren
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peninsula, which is something geopolitically that china zbt want within the region. at this point it seems that beijing, while it is condemning the latest test and it says it's lodged a diplomatic protest with north korea, there's no suggestion it's going to make these heavier moves. the other consequence could be regime change. >> we've got nikki haley, who will be at the united nations for the united states. we have seen the intensity of what we saw from the defense secretary yesterday. where does it go from here? >> i think what you are going to see is essentially more tough talk when it comes to economic sanctions, chris, as well as what you hear about the military rhetoric, we could say. when you talk about secretary mattis coming out and even using the words "total annihilation." even though he said we don't want to do that and wanted to reassure them, but raising that
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in the first place. i think when you look at trade, that is the area where we're going to go next. you saw treasury secretary steven mnuchin is drafting something. tougher sanctions to cut off kim jong un. they have added that they've become a rogue nation. they're trying to help with little success. then crucially saying this. south korea is finding, as i have told them, that the talk of appeasement with north korea will not work. they only understand one thing, and then adding the u.s. is considering in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with north korea. any country doing business with north korea. let me break this down. it is unrealistic based on my conversations that i have had over the last 24 hours that the president would actually or could effectively make some sort of move that cuts off all trade
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with any nation that treats north korea, china obviously. what he could do, though, skps what he is weighing and considering is maybe withdrawing from a free trade agreement with south korea. you can make that happen. the timeline is not clear. the timeline as far as we understand it is still a little bit up in the air for when he might make that move, which could essentially anger seoul, right? that would make seoul not very happy, but it is another option that the white house is considering. i think tougher economic sanctions is something that is going to be what might develop over the next week or so, and in addition to the diplomatic track that you'll see innicy haley on today. >> halle jackson, janice, thank you to both of you. let me bring in -- he is senior member of the house foreign affairs committee. good to see you all, though. often we are speaking at difficult times like this. our are economic sanctions the answer here? >> i think they're multi-lateral. b we've got to make sure now like never before that we're working
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with south korea. not alienating them, and japan, and china and others world nations and the u.n. if we're going to do economic sanctions in order for them to work, it has to be a multi-lateral fight. similarly, as we did with reference to iran dwsh. >> we haven't seen economic sanctions change the behavior at all of kim jong un. if anything, he has escalated. if anything, western experts, including our own, seem to be surprised by the pace of the program. they were not expecting it to go this far if, indeed, this is where it is, and we don't know exactly what we're looking at here. it's gone a lot faster than most people thought it would. do economic sanctions put pressure on kim jong un, auto are do they merely hurt even more people who are already facing food shortages and facing economic hardship in the general population. >> i'm not at the position that i heard former secretary perry
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say right now. >> if he wants to be treated as an equal nuclear power, you cannot compare prime minister modi can kim jong un. the difference is so dramatic between countries and this. >> i'm not saying that you do treat them equally. what i am saying is that based upon the test that we see, the reality that it tells me is that they're going to have -- or they already have a nuclear power. what are our options? our options are either to do something, a strike ourselves, and what takes place then, you know, and what's that devastation? is that a real option? or how to contain them and to
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make sure that we're working with other nations. what then is their focus with reference to negotiation. we know china doesn't want instability in the area because that would cause hundreds of thousands of north koreans running over to china, and so the question of destabilization of north korea is a problem for china. the question is now how and what do we negotiate? i think that's what's crucial, and that we do it in a multi-lateral way, and so if economic sanctions are going to be what we utilize, it clearly cannot be just the united states saying we're going to have economic sakes against north korea and/or turn against south korea and saying we're going to end our trade agreement with south korea because the north would really like the united states not to be there at all, and that they can control and have whatever dealings they want with south korea and i don't think that's the outcome that we want. >> before you go, i want to ask you about daca, because the president expected to make an announcement tomorrow that affects hundreds of thousands of the so-called dreamers. many of chom are in college,
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many of whom hold jobs. what will happen to the 800,000 undocumented young people? >> i am extremely worried about this president making an irrationale decision because now you take away their legal protections, and then you sent the immigration authorities after them to try to deport them from the united states of america. the only country that they've known into areas and places where they have no connection. it's not the right thing to do. it's not the right message for the united states of america. it's not the moral thing to do, and it would be devastating to individuals who see themselves as american citizens who see themselves where all they want to do is work here and contribute to our society. it would be devastating. i hope, you know, although i'm concerned because this president seems to be hell bent on just doing anything that president obama put in, but you hear some democrats and, i mean, all democrats and some republicans now saying that it would be the wrong thing. i hope that speaker ryan really steps up.
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i know he put out a statement earlier that it would be a mistake, but he really needs to step up and not be afraid of this president and let him know that it would be the wrong thing to do to end daca. >> just two of the things on your plate when you head back to washington tomorrow. congressman, thank you for coming in. i want to go back to north korea and bring in joel ruben, former. >> take me inside the decision making process. you have been there. it was so sobering to see the defense secretary standing outside the white house warning of a massive military response. are we at a point where some sort of military action may be coming inevitable? >> good morning, chris. it does seem like we're on a pathway towards military action. this is a war that we're not prepared for, that the american people don't want, and that is not even authorized by congress
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if we go in this direction. the military threats are damaging. they're counter productive. we've seen now evidence based -- an evidence-based review of the last six months has shown that bellicose rhetoric is not getting us the results that we need on north korea. >> so we've got an emergency meeting at the u.n. today. less than two hours from now. what are the possibilities there? >>. >> certainly there's going to be condemnation, and there should be a condemnation. north korea detonating what some analysts are saying is the largest explosion underground explosion in the last four decades. that is a problem, and that needs to be called out. the congressman just mentioned a multi-lateral approach need. we have a military option. the less likely it is that we're going to get the kind of multi-lateral action that we need for the economic pressure that has to be placed on north korea to change its behavior. again, the dim low mattic option
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is not being delved into enough. there are real opportunities they need to explore. we negotiated with them on reducing those missiles. we need to be investing more in our diplomacy. >> a lot of people say that. this has befulgdsed administration after administration. kim jong un is even more aggressive than his father has been. take a look at this. the comparison between him and his father. kim jong ill carried out 16 tests in 17 years. his son has carried out 84 tests and 18 just since donald trump was sworn in. the world worries. the u.n. security council is about to meet. he seems to take delight with every step of the process. there are pictures of him. there it is. and his staff. look at the way they're smiling. seem to be laughing about what's
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going on there. i mean, to know whether or not diplomacy has any chance, don't we have to know what kim jong n un's goal is here, what he is thinking, and the fact is our intelligence is as weak there as anywhere in the world. >> you're right, chris. in a sense that the wrapping has come often of the package. right now there's no policy towards north korea, and for much of the last 15 years when the bush administration pulled out of the agreed framework with north korea, largely because of violations of north korea as well, but when the u.s. pulled out of that, we've had a policy for 15 years that it's not generated results. diplomacy is also about understanding your adversary. it's about getting in the room. it's about working at more aggressively to figure out what those limits are. we don't know what those limits are. we haven't tested them enough yet diplomatically. that's what was done on the iran nuclear deal several years ago when we diplomatically engaged, when we had back channels, and
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the future of nearly 800,000 young undocumented immigrants in this country is now in question. politico reports that president trump has decided to end the deferred action for childhood arrivals program known as daca. president trump could announce that decision to end the obama era program tomorrow. it provides protection to those undocumented immigrants who are brought into the country as children. let's bring in elliana johnson, reporter at politico. she wrote that story. paul reyes, an attorney and nbc news -- >> it's labor day. >> so sorry. i've only known you for 20 years. >> oh, it's 8:00. thank you so much. he is here as well. elliana, let me start with you while i recover from that faux pas. you report that the president will delay the cancel las vegas for six months to give congress a chance to legislate a solution. for those hundreds of thousands of dreamers, for their family, for their friends, what is the
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real world impact of bhaets going on right now? >> it's not totally clear yet. the president is set to announce tomorrow that he is rolling back the program, but giving six months to act. it's a view of the administration that the executive -- it's not the role of the executive branch to write immigration law, which is what president obama did in june of 2012 when he rolled out this executive action, so they're passing the buck to congress and giving them six months to write a law that protects these 800,000 young undocumented immigrants. i think what's unclear right now is what happens if congress doesn't do anything. it will be tremendously challenging for house speaker paul ryan who said he didn't want the president to roll back this provision to get to pass a law through his caucus in the house and to get this passed through the senate.
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and feeling some genuine empathy for these young people. >> so you have on the republican side a number of people. the congresswoman tweeted about it. you certainly have pressure from the business community. especially the folks in silicon valley. >> first of all, bottom line, if donald trump wanted this decision, wanted to keep daca in place, he could tell jeff sessions, who serves as his -- who serves at his pleasure, you will defend it. deal with it or i will get a new attorney general. that's bottom line number one. number two, the under pinnings
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of daca, the legal underpinnings are very strong. grounded including u.s. v. arizona. in the u.s. cis regulations, that's statutory law. it provides that the department of the homeland security has the ability to set immigration policy and priorities. we cannot overstate the terror, the ang zpliet, the absolute anguish these kwung people are going through because not only is it about potentially to end, but what we don't know in this picture is, say daca does end in six months. what about the people whose daca expires before then? will they be deported before that deadline, or do they wait until the six-month period? at that six-month deadline, if congress has not reached a solution, does that mean the program ends for everyone, or will it end on a rolling basis depending when they receive their grant of daca?
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those are serious questions for people who turned over their personal information, they are address, where they live, where they work to the government. >> i have to convince them that what i'm saying is right. the daca situation is a very, very -- it's a very difficult thing for me. >> it's the threat of a legal case that's put time pressure on the administration to come up with the decision, and it's true, as you said, in the video clip that you played that the president has sent wildly divergent signals on what he wants to do on this, and i think that's because he himself is
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genuinely conflicted about it. what's unclear is as raul said, what exactly will happen in this six-month interim period? whether the administration will continue to issue daca permits for those people whose permits expire during this period, and what will happen at the end of the six-month period if congress doesn't act in that six-month period. >> 65% pursued educational opportunities after daca. of those in zool, 72% are pursuing either a bachelors degree or higher. we have pointed out that major companies, widespread major companies, have bid for this. silicon valley fighting.
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the biggest names in silicon valley are fighting for this. what is the alternative for the other side? what can they do because if the president wants to do this and he does seem to want to -- >> to want to end it. >> -- to want to end it, and he does want to appeal to his base, whatever dwindling part of his base there is? >> right. >> what does your side do? >> it's a very, very heavy lift. even among members of congress. there is some bipartisan support for a new version of the dream act. maybe the bridge act or the american hope act. there is some bipartisan support. when you consider all the things that congress has on its plate, including the amount of allocation of funds for hurricane harvey, it's going to be a very difficult legislative lift to say prioritize the needs of non-citizens when you have so much else on congress's plate.
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>> they could potentially face death. the stakes for the dreamers are huge, and that is why there is so much devastation and even i would say despair in the immigrant communities among these young people. >> we will know more tomorrow. raul reyes, thank you for coming in. elliana johnson, thank you as well. you can see her story in politico. we're getting new video of the flooding that remains in southeast texas more than a week after hurricane harvey made landfall. this is viter, texas. a lot of residents not able to return to their homes to begin even thinking about rebuilding. that process could take years and hundreds of billions of dollars to complete as another potentially catastrophic hurricane churns in the atlantic. look at this. hurricane irma, the latest on its path when we come back. what started as a passion
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efforts could cost more than $180 billion after the storm displaced more than a million people and damaged an estimated 200,000 homes. some continue to battle floodwaters. in beaumont, texas, more than 120,000 residents are still without running water. in houston residents are returning to their neighborhoods assessing the damage trying to salvage what is left. nbc -- msnbc's marianna atencio is in viter, texas. mariana, i want to start with you. the last updates we're seeing from viter, those homes with five feet of water. some neighborhoods just under water virtually. i know yesterday there was only one road open into viter. now is it looking this morning? >> you can just see around me, chris, this is the only highway that goes from lake charles, louisiana, to bow metropolitan.
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this is what so many vehicles have attempted to do this morning. this is the only highway into viter right now. this is a larger truck that just went by me. easy for that truck to go through. not easy for everyone to try to cross into vitor. it still remains pretty much an island. the river is receding, but not fast enough. they are also out of power in many areas of vitor. you can see an electrical substation behind me. >> we saw people trickling in. it's a signal that things are not improving fast enough, and as people are talking about the bigger cities, houston, of course, where a lot of people still need help. it is really the smaller towns
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here that are seeing the worst of this at this stage. >> let me gu to you now, mia. how are people hangdsing the aftermath there? >> you know, there are still thousands upon thousands of people, chris, who are staying in shelters throughout texas. at the height of the storm we had 40,000 people in shelters. what are we seeing now? >> 32,000 people in shelters across the area. at the height we did see really influx numbers. we're happy to see that numbers are starting to go down. it means people are starting to go back into their neighborhoods. starting to enter their homes. >> here at the george r. brown convention center which most people had 9,000, upwards of 10,000 people here. what are we seeing here? >> we've seen the past couple of days overnight populations of a little over 1 ,000. now, we do have people coming in and out for other services.
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for hot meals, for things with our partners. there's a pop-up store here to get supplies to help them start that recovery process as well. we've got an influx of people coming in and out. >> how long can you expect these shelters to remain open? i mean, how long are people going to be living in these places? >> so the red cross will be here for as long as it's needed. we've got a massive disaster on our hands. we'll make sure people have a safe place to go. they have a pillow to rest their head. if and when that time comes, we are positioned to work with our community partners to make sure that that is in place. >> the american red cross is telling us that, yeah, they're already tracking irma, and potentially getting ready for whatever that storm might bring. chris. >> mi a-rod reeg ez, thank you both. as she just said, texas entering its recovery phase, but another hurricane is threatening the caribbean, and maybe the u.s.
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irma is a category three storm. nbc meteorologist bill karins continues with more. what's irma up to? >> it's not going to go harmlessly out to sooer. that's the big message, unfortunately. it looks like someone is going to have to deal with it. i wish hi the exact location in the u.s. that's going to have deal with it, but that's still going to be determined in the days ahead. we do know our friends in the islands, the northern care bean eelds, and puerto rico and the virgin islands will have to deal with the storms. right now the storm is continuing on a due westward track. a little south of that. 120-mile-per-hour winds. it's only 600 miles away from antigua and bermuda. this was the 5:00 a.m. forecast path from the hurricane center. the updates come every six hours. 11:00 a.m. eastern coast time will be the next one, and notice category four near the northern islands here. very close call for our friends in puerto rico. you have about two days to make all your preparations that you need for the possibility of a category four hurricane making a direct impact.
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puerto rico, you're the first big island in the way. then it's undetermined. will it be over areas of haiti and dominican republic or just to the north, and how about cuba? maybe even the bahamas too. you notice this cone. does it head in the general direction of south florida. i know now is the time to make your preparations just in case the worst heads your way. our computer models are all in excellent agreement on that path to the west somewhere north shore of cuba at about five days from now. beyond that it gets a little more iffy. this is our europe eastern model and american gfs model. notice, the euro is very close to south florida. the american model takes it further to the west and up through florida. then monday to tuesday, again, the threat is from the southeast. cuba and then the storm is going to drift northward. now, could it be northward over the bahamas and out to sea? still a possibility. a lot of them are really hinting that florida is in the way here. it really sticks out like a sore thumb down here, and that's the reason it gets hit so many times by hurricanes, and then we'll have to wait and see about georgia and the carolinas also. you get the general idea from
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>> after a five-week summer rates lawmakers are facing a daunting to do list when they return to work toemg, and the battle lines already appear to be taking shape. not just between parties, but within the republican party itself. here's the headlines from the washington post. it says "gop already clashing over harvey relief and the debt limit." joining us now msnbc contributor former democratic national committee chairman and former vermont governor howard dean, and republican strategist joe watkins. happy labor day to you both. you have kwb lawmakers that are blasting treasury secretary steve mnuchin. they want to attach this harvey aid to the nation's borrowing limit. how nasty a fight do you see shaping up over this? >> well, it's going to be a bit of a fight, and certainly if
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republicans want to begin to even tackle tax reform in the fall, they've got to get past these hurdles? we've got debt from sandy and katrina, but have you to be prepared for hurricane irma if it happens, god forbid, to hit the southeast or the east coast of the united states. >> woer all reminded about the fight that happened after hurricane sandy, but now you have a lot of these conservative congress members who are from texas who don't want to be seen to be standing in the way of the money getting to their constituents. does that change the equation at all? what do you see happening with this?
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>> he refuses to dip into the healthy rainy day fund. i think the texas legislators will be neutralized, but i think a lot of people will point to texas and say, wait a minute, aren't you going to at least chip in something if you are asking for all this money from us? >> i want to show you what roadway blunt said. take a listen p. >> the debt ceiling is to pay for things the government is committed to. these are the bills we've already encumbered. whether you link that with leaving the door ceiling, and that's something that be decided in the next few days. >> next few days, do you think, joe? >> yeah, but -- >> it's going to happen fast. at least the first part of it. >> well, absolutely. i think they got to get moving on this, but at the same time
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they're going to need democrats and depending upon what president trump says tomorrow about daca, may have an impact on that. i hope he heeds what congressman paul ryan is saying, which is to do nothing right now. to leave it alone. let congress at some point when it's ready deal with it. not to bother it right now. it's going to be hard because you have the texas attorney general and others saying that pressing forward with this lawsuit, but that being said, i think that if the president wants to see republicans in congress move forward in a smoother way, to raise the debt ceiling, to fund the spending bill and then to be able to tackle tax reform in the fall, you can't have a big challenge with daca. >> i do wonder, howard, you p, there's been so much out there, but nothing has gotten done in a big way at all. you could argue the supreme court was set up by mitch
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mcconnell even before donald trump was elected president, so let's take that out of the equation. you've got north korea. you've got daca. you've got the debt ceiling. as joe rightfully points out, they want to do some sort of tax reform. i don't want to suggest that congress can't walk and chew gum at the same time, but realistically given what is going on out there, what we know about the divisions not just between democrats and republicans, but between republicans and republicans, is there a way to get any of this done, or does it become one big mess? >> but -- >> how was the president's hand really forced by the attorneys
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general who threatened that they're going to go to court if they don't do something about it? >> you know, in the previous segment you had on a pretty smart immigration lawyer who doesn't think so. now, i'm not a lawyer, so i can't make the argument, but these are right wing attorneys general who are partly grandstanding for their own purposes. who knows what the merits are. obviously, if president obama thought this could be done, and it survived for four years, my guess is that president trump, had he wanted to, could have not kicked this over to the congress, but this could actually be the thing that turns over the united states senate and the house to the democrats as a result if daca is not reinstated. spoo when you look at daca, joe, and you look at the president, and he has been on many different ends of this. he talks about wanting to have heart. he talks about having sympathy for these kids, and on the other hand, he seems to be moving in the direction of more uncertainty for them. how much does 2018 play into all this and what congress eventually decides to do?
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>> it plays a hunl role, of course. it's going to be hard for republicans to make a strong case to their constituents in 2018 that they ought to be re-elected to the house if they don't have anything to show for the two years that they've been in the majority. >> not just any accomplishments, but you look at the polls. as you know, joe, people overwhelmingly support the dreamers. people don't want to see kids who are in college right now, you know, kicked out of the country. we don't see that. is this just another example of the president who is playing to being pushed to play to by whether it's jeff sessions or other people in his orbit. what is clearly, again, according to the polls, a dwindling base. >> right. well, clearly there is some hard liners that would move the president to act strongly against the daca act. there are lots of republicans in the house and the senate that don't want to hurt dreamers, that want to support dreamers, and want to find a way to could that legislatively, and so this
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is an explosive issue, of course. it's an explosive issue. it's not a no win for the president, but i think if the president wants to be able to get his agenda through in the fall, he has to be on the side of the dreamers when it comes to his decision tomorrow. >> howard, we're out of time, but let me ask you really quickly. what do you think the chances are that daca stays in place? >> i have no idea. all i know is if they want democratic cooperation, they're going to have to do something about daca because i don't see the democrats cooperating with the republicans on any issue with the possible exception of the debt ceiling and this clean bill if daca is not fixed where. >> good to see both of you, gentlemen. thank you for coming in on a holiday. >> thank you, chris. up next we'll hear from some of the dreamers whose future depends on the president's decision. what will they do if he term terminates the program that's allowed them to remain in the country legally. ss advisor has gotten to know our business so well that is feels like he's a part of our team. with one phone call, he sets me up with tailored products and services.
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at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that's the power of and. it's been five years since daca was signed into law and since then an estimated 800,000 undocumented immigrants have benefitted from the obama program. tens of thousands of those dreamers call southern california home. jacob soboroff talked with some
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of them who are anxiously awaiting president trump's decision on end daca. jacob? >> imagine being faced with the prospect of being ripped away from your everyday life and sent to a country that is supposedly your home but you basically don't know at all. that is exactly what faces tens of thousands of people here in southern california, hundreds of thousands of people across the country, just like a couple of folks i met the other day. take look at this. this is cal state fullerton. the southern california california university says it's home to over 40,000 students and so many around 900 are undocumented, the school created what it calls a dreamer resource center just for them. nice to meet you. >> i'm daniella. >> first-year physics student and dreamer daniella cauldron's parents brought her from mexico when she was 2. do you have younger siblings? >> yes. >> if shipg happened --
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>> if something happened they would probably stay here, maybe with the family relative. >> how do you deal with this? you seem so cool about this. >> it's tough. it really is. yesterday i did nothing but cry with everything around me, but you kind of have to -- >> reporter: that are's a new day. >> yeah. >> reporter: everyday life doesn't stop for miriam and pablo. ever been to mexico other than being born there? >> no. >> reporter: never. >> no. >> reporter: how about you? where would you be deported to? >> i would assume mexico too. i was even thinking i could find a way to transfer my education to another school so i finish my education because that's my goal. i just want to finish. >> reporter: now you wait. >> just a waiting game. ever since the election, everything you do, as every day goes by you think about it more. >> reporter: in the kcountry thy call home, students faced with a prospect of a forced return to a life they've never known.
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chris, if president trump does punt six months to allow congress potentially to act and they don't, he can end the program immediately, which would put all 800,000 folks that receive daca today out of luck or do a slow burn, basically let it expire, and this would be about 1,400 daca recipients every single day. either way it doesn't just affect the hundreds of thousands of young people, kids, as some people call them, but the millions of people that call them friends, family members, classmates, you name it, and it's only a matter of time. jus waiting to see what happens. >> jacob soboroff, thank you for that. a bug announcement from the royal family this morning. there will soon be another heir to the throne. the royal family announcing today that kate, dutch es of cambridge, is pregnant with her third child. no word on when the baby is due. but the baby will become the fifth in line for the throne. prince george is 4, princess charlotte is 2. we'll be right back. cloud.
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good morning. i'm chris jansing at msnbc headquarters in new york. show of force. the united nations security council holding an emergency meeting one hour from now. thaw will they respond to north korea's latest and most powerful nuclear test amid reports that more missile tests could be in works? dream deferred? president trump reportedly planning to put an end to the obama-era program that allows nearly 1 million undocumented
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young immigrants to live if this country without fear of deportation. what will happen next? picking up the pieces. thousands of texans hoping to start the rebuilding process in the wake of hurricane harvey. how long will it take to get federal funds to help them? let's start with the escalating tensions over north korea. just one hour from now the u.n. will hold an emergency meeting to discuss a response to the north's latest nuclear test, its most powerful by far. at the same time, there are indications more tests could be in the works. on sunday, defense secretary james mattis drew a red line and warned north korea not to cross it. >> -- territories including guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming. >> we have a great team with me. nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live in seoul, south korea. kristen welker
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