as always, the russia probe is the dark cloud on the horizon. in the past we know this about the trump. when these bad about russia start kicking up. he tends to start lashing out. what we're seeing today could very well are provoke another response from them in the coming days. >> it just reminds me there's a caught of inspector could you sew here. he's the only one that takes himself seriously. >> thank you. that does it for hour hour. i'm nicolle wallace. our thoughts and prayers with the folks in florida. "mtp daily" starts right now. hi, katy. >> nicolle, thank you very much. good evening. i'm katy tur in new york in for chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily" where we are keeping track of a monster hurricane just miles off the florida coast. here is the latest.

after tearing through the caribbean the past few days hurricane irma is currently churning off the coast of cuba. wind speeds are still in the neighborhood of 150-mile-per-hour with gusts oon stronger. the southeastern bahamas received the bulk of the devastation today. the storm surge reached as high as 20 feet in some areas with up to a feet of rain. the combined death toll from irma currently stands at 17. looking forward, irma appears to have the south coast of florida directly in its path. we're going to get the latest on the track from nbc's al roker in just a moment. white house homeland security adviser tom bossert warned residents don't under estimate this storm. >> it's not only a dangerous storm, we've already seen loss of life. this storm has taken lives already. it's going to take more, unfortunately, if we're not prepared. so please take it seriously. at this point this is a large storm and whether it wobbles left or wobbles right, you need to at this point start thinking through your own personal

accountability. >> a hurricane warning is in effect for south florida on both the east and west coasts. a hurricane watch extends further north. the national weather as much as warns that some buildings may collapse into the sea. that structures near landfall will experience extreme wind damage with some areas uninhabitable for weeks or months. hundreds of thousands of floridians are in evacuation zones ahead of irma. miami dated county's has ordered its largest mandatory evacuation ever. florida governor rick scott urged all floridans in evacuation zones to get out immediately. >> i am a father and a grandfather. i love my family. i can't imagine life without them. do not put yourself or your family in harm's way. if you've been ordered to evacuate and are still home, please go to a shelter. possession can be replaced. your life and your family cannot. >> and remember, it is not just

florida in irma's path. gentleman's governor says they will begin mandatory evacuations tomorrow morning. and fee ma warns that residents from alabama to north carolina should be tracking the storm. our reporters are on the ground with the latest on the storm preps. nbc's al roker is in miami beach with the latest on the storm's path. gabe gutierrez has more on the evacuation efforts in miami. katy beck is on her way to orlando. and joe lean kent is in pom pan notice beach. let's start with al roker. al, talk to me about this storm. how strong is it right now? >> well, katy, it is intensified ailing bit. it's 155 miles per hour. we just got the latest data in from the national hurricane center. here is where it stands right now. it is a category 4 storm. but don't let that fool you. even though it has been a five, a five is 1457 miles per hour plus. the this is now at 155 miles per

hour. and it has slowed down. it is moving northwest at 12 miles per hour. earlier this morning when we were on the air with the today show it was moving west northwest at 17 miles per hour. and currently it is 345 miles away from miami beach, southeast of miami. so here is what we see as far as the path is concerned. now, it's going to brush across cuba late tonight, and then saturday morning, early afternoon it starts to make that turn. now the other big change is it slowed down, so it's moved a little further west and it's slowed down. so landfall is going to be sometime, unfortunately, right around high tied. high tied is around noon. and that's going to be a big deal as we'll see in just a little bit about storm surge. it continues monday afternoon into northern florida. so this is going to be in the state of florida for about 24 hours. andrew, which was a smaller storm, was west east to west and

was original four hours. this thing is going to be about 24 to 30 hours on the ground in florida. now, storm surge. this is the other big deal we're talking about. and it's going to happen, unfortunately, right around high tide, which is at noon on sunday. southwestern florida, about 6 to 12 feet. 5 to 10 feet in southeastern florida, and the keys, about 3 to 6 feet. and from venice to cap tee va island, about 3 to 6 feet. rainfall amounts are going to be about 6 to 12 inches of rain. but the big deal is going to be the wind. the wind and the storm surge. those are the big problems here. in fact, most people, katy, unfortunately, lose their lives due to the storm surge. imagine if you're a 6 foot person and there's a 10 foot storm surge. that's water four feet above your head and that's assuming it's not high tide.

if it's high tide, it will be even higher. so this storm coming in could not be any worse. and again, the other thing we want to stress, even though right now the track is a little further west, which may help miami, we're still a couple of days out. and there could be a wobble either way. so everybody has to be on their guard and cannot take this any less seriously. and don't be fooled by the numbers. category 4, category 5, this is a very dangerous storm. >> and it couldn't hit a worse place, al. florida is low lying. it is flat. there's already a water table problem out there. it floods even when there are no stornls. al roker of the today show. thank you so much. nbc ace gabe gutierrez is in miami at the airport for us. take us there. what's it been like? >> as you can see behind me, it's a bit of good news to report. the chaotic scenes that we saw earlier have cleared out.

there's just a few travelers that are still here waiting to get on those last minute flights or trying to figure out where they're going to spend the night. as we've been reporting throughout the day, there's been a lot of confusion here. earlier today and yesterday as so many flights were canceled. more than 800 flights canceled into and out of miami international airport. many of those people were tourists or international travelers that don't have family here in miami. cruise ship passengers as well. now trying to figure out how to get home. and there's been chaos in air travel because some of the logistics of these planes. now the planes are starting to wind-down. the last few flooits are expected in the next few hours. we're told by airport officials that they will not close this airport, but they stress that the airport is not a shelter. and so the travelers that we have spoken with throughout the day, they have now been buzzed to several new emergency shelters here in miami dated county. it's not just, of course, those here at the airport. but nearly 700,000 people

throughout south florida have been ordered to evacuate. many of them are clogging roads heading north. as al just mentioned, ns such a massive storm that it really is difficult to get away. but katy, there is some uncertainty for these families here that are now going to emergency shelters or trying to figure out how they're going to spend hurricane irma, spend the night, and they just don't know where to go. >> it is wild to see you at that airport, a normally bustling airport. we can barely move there are so many people. now it's all about empty. thank you very much. let's go to nbc's indicate why i beck who is traveling on i-95 from fort laurtd dale to atlanta. what is the traffic like out there, katy? >> well, similar to gabe, katy, the traffic here now is very light. it's almost an erie sight to look at i-95 headed north. you've heard all the reports of this. back to back, bumper to bumper traffic, it seems that folks have hooelded the warning early

and that they have hit the road long before nowel. as you can see the flow of traffic is very light right now. we're not seeing a lot of congestion. it seems that those mandatory evacuation orders were taken seriously and people headed north possibly days ago. we are actually on our way to orlando at this point. one of the reasons that we are headed there is because walt disney world has announced they will be closing early tomorrow and staying closed, potentially through thursday. obviously a massive theme park, massive disappointment for park goers. they say they're going to be keeping their hotels open, but as far as the parks are concerned, they are worried about safety. they have concerns about what the storm will bring when it finally does come inland to orlando, and they said they hope to get back to normal operations by tuesday. >> well, you can't blame them. there's a massive storm coming right up the coast and into the entire florida -- state of florida. katy beck, thank you very much. let's go to joe lean kentd, who

is following the evacuation process in pom pan notice beach, florida. she's at one of the last open gas stations out there. jo, it's been hard to get gas. there are shortages. are people frustrated or are they trying to just kbrin and bear it, do the best they can? >> well, here at this shell station they are very happy to be finding gas. 37% of gas stations in miami and fort lauderdale and the entire area are actually completely out of gas. but we've got a really happy customer here. peter, who has been filling up his car, peter, thanks for joining us. this is your second time to this station today. what have you been doing? >> well, i've been helping people evacuate. >> and who are you helping get out of here? >> well, elderly mostly, you know, get out of dodge before it gets real bad. a lot of their children from up north have been sending money to get them out, so, you know, i've been taking them to the airport. >> that's very generous of you to be spending your time doing that. but what about you? where are you headed? >> i'll be all right. >> you're staying.

>> i'm staying. >> why. >> i don't know. that's a good -- nobody wanted to help me, so i'm helping everybody else. >> well, i'm surprised. you've still got time to get out of here. but you're getting this second tank of gas -- >> no. i'm going north. i'm going back home now. i'm fbd for the day. >> so what are you doing at the house to make sure you're ready for irma. food shopping, getting dry goods, water, et cetera, closing up the storm shurts. so i'm pretty much ready to go. i'm on the third floor, so hopefully i won't below away. >> rt will. well, peter, thank you for your time. we wish you lots of safety. thank you so much for staying with us on msnbc. but this is the story here. a lot of folks going southbound. they're turning around and heading back north to their homes. they're evacuating. freeways look pretty clear right now. a lot of folks heeded those warnings from the governor. >> i do hope that guy ends up changing his mind and leaving. if the floods don't get you, then meteorologists warn pretty

significantly of the high winds, even if you are in the third floor of a building. and we're continuing to track irma's path toward south florida. just ahead, i'll talk with a congressman whose own home is in the storm track. police mayors of two of the areas bracing for direct hits from the storm. we'll look at how their towns are preparing for irma. and then the storm's aftermath. stay with us. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief helps block 6 key inflammatory substances

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as hurricane irma barrels toward florida, residents and tourists are scrambling to prepare for the worst or just get out of dodge. take a listen. >> i'm kind of anxious right now just because i can't get out. i have a family to go back to, so i'm just really worried. >> everybody is telling me that the artery is heading north are jam-packed, so i'm going to not add to the chaos and congestion there. >> do you think you might have to hunker down at home for a couple days? >> hopefully. i mean, if it's still standing.

>> we'll be lucky to survive. it's just going to be a horrible mess. >> previous storms go across the state, and we had an opportunity to go north or south and get provisions. there's not going to be any place to get provisions. >> on the search for a generator for several days now. >> this thing just looks like a monster, and we don't know where it's going to go. >> i have never been in a shelter before, but we were very -- really very afraid. >> i visualize myself going back to my condominium and be destroyed. >> let's bring in democratic congressman ted deutsch whose district constitutes part of the east coast of florida. you're still out there in your district. have people heeded evacuation warnings? >> in left arm part they have, katy. thanks for having me. and i was listening to the people express their concern and they're right to be concerned.

but form, there is an enormous amount of preparation that has gone into helping people get to shelters. people in mandatory evacuation zones by the water moving inland to protect themselves and their families. and having spent the day going from shelter to shelter, there's an awful lot of goodwill that people have trying to be there for one another. we don't know what's going to come next. we don't know how bad it's going to be, but it could be terrible or, you know, we have to keep safe now and the next day we'll get up and we'll figure out how to get back on our feet. >> congressman, what about those who are not he'ding the evacuation orders, those that are deciding to stay? will they be able to get any help in this storm or will they have to wait until it's all over? >> right. well, that's why the mandatory evacuation notices need to be taken seriously, katy, because if they decide to wait it out and they live somewhere on the

water or low lying area, any of the areas that are subject to mandatory evacuation, if they don't heed those warnings, they will not be able to get assistance during the storm and they're going to be on their own. there are people available right now to come get them if it's difficult, to pick them up, to take them to a shelter. a number of the shelters have filled up. they're opening new shelters. they need to take the warning seriously. and there are opportunities for them to tap into resources to help them if they need it. >> so folks have been comparing this, obviously to andrew since this storm form. it looks like it's taking a direct hit on the peninsula of florida and going straight up. why do you think it could potentially be so much worse? >> well, the size of this storm. it's the size and the strength of the storm. it's so large that if it continues on its current track, there will be hurricane force winds across the entire state of

florida and there are 6 million people just in south florida where i am. 20 million people in the state. there have been lots of changes since hurricane andrew. the building codes have changed. their responses are different. the preparation before a storm is different of the all of that is helpful, but if this plows up through the entire state, then there's going to be considerable damage. certainly we're going to continue to prepare for that and hope that perhaps there will be a little wobble and it will move a little west and we won't get to see it. but we've got to be prepared. >> given that it's going to potentially plow right up the state, there's nowhere to really evacuate to because that storm is going to be following close behind. folks are in shelters. how confident are you that those shelters are protected, are safe, will be able to withstand this storm? >> well, certainly that's the hope. that's the idea behind choosing

the buildings that will serve as shelters. and certainly for the people who live east, it's important for your viewers to understand that the wind is very dangerous, but the storm surge is also very, very dangerous. the people who are living along the coast face the possibility of both the wind and the storm surge. that's why making the decision to come inland to a shelter is the right one for them. >> and there's not just not a lot of higher ground when you're talking about florida. it is such a flat state. congressman, last question, where are you riding this out and is your family going to be okay? >> well, certainly i hope so, katy. i'm going to be riding this out with my family. i'm at home. and we'll all hunker down together just like millions of floridans are going to be doing and we'll wait for it to get through. hope for the best and go out and survey the damage and see what we can do as a community with the help of local, state and

federal officials and tons of volunteers to get us back on our feet. that's what we'll have to do if the worst comes and that's what we will do. >> well, good luck to you, sir. hour thoughts are with you. >> thank you. >> appreciate your time. and we're back in 60 seconds with more "mtp daily." you don't let anything lkeep you sidelined.

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normally the storm surge could be modern ten feet above. are there any residents who are deciding not to listen to these warnings and deciding to stay at home in the keys? >> yeah. we estimate maybe 20%, 25% of key west residents -- >> 25%. seriously? is that many people are deciding to ignore this and just stay where they are? >> yeah. unfortunately, yes. we don't have exact count. we were today trying to estimate it. but most of them have been through a lot of storms, and they understand and hopefully they understand that they've got to get in a secure place. they can't come out, you know, in the storm. >> yeah. >> but a lot of people won't leave, especially with so much trouble evacuating with all of south florida evacuating. this is an unprecedented this hurricane. >> they may have been through stornls, mayor, but this is not a storm like anyone has ever seen. the closest comparison right now

is andrew, and andrew was absolutely devastating. for those who are staying, what happens to them if they get stuck? are any first responders going to be willing to go in to try and help them during the storm? >> no. we've been warning them that the first responders will not go and risk their lives to go out in the hurricane. and as soon as the weather gets a little better, we will send them out. we will have our 911 phones up, but we won't send anybody until the weather gets better. and we've been warning residents for a week now. >> mayor, are where are you staying? >> i'm staying at my house, but my house is rated for 180-mile-per-hour winds which most of the houses are, the newer ones down here with the new construction. >> what about the storm surge? >> well, i'm far enough inland that i won't get that. my house is elevated over ten feet to the base of the floor, and some parts of key west is 18 feet high.

everybody that's right on the coastline needs to evacuate or at least move to the center of the city. >> mayor, i'm sorry, i've got to ask you, if you're asking people to evacuate, you've issued a mandatory evacuation. you're not going. what sort of message is that sending? >> well, it's a message that government hag to be here when we have to run the city to get it back up and running after it's over. and we have -- there are places to stay that first responders will stay. we have five buildings in key west that are rated for category 5 where they will be staying. so that being said, there are buildings you can stay in that's not on the water. it's the water damage, the rising water that's going to do the damage down here. >> no doubt about that. mayor cates. good luck to you, sir. >> well, thank you very much. >> and we're continuing to follow hurricane irma. and we'll update you on the storm's path throughout the hour. and as florida braces for the storm, we'll have the latest on the efforts congress and former presidents are taking to help

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devastation, the house today passed a $15 billion disaster relief package to help cleanup after hurricane harvey. just this hour president trump signed it into law. it includes a short-term three-month extension of the debt limit and government funding. the vote in the house today was 360-90, but don't let the bipartisan tally fool you. this was not a kum bia moment for the republican party and the president. during negotiations leadership wanted a long-term extension of the debt limit, but mr. trump blindsided them by siding with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. chuck and nancy. who wanted a short-term one of the that gives democrats a powerful bargaining chip for rear-end negotiations. president trump's treasury secretary made a last ditch appeal to house conservative before the vote, but they didn't sound too happy about it. >> his last statement was vote for the debt ceiling for me. i thought that was pretty weak. >> i give him an a plus for courage and a d minus for

content. >> the debt ceiling was -- it was inappropriate to tie that to this bill. >> it's a shame that lack of preparation leads you to a point where a crisis dictates how you have to vote. >> the president's own budget director, mick mulvaney wouldn't even say if he would have voted for this bill. this deal marks a significant escalation in tensions between the president and his own party and things keep getting worse. today mr. trump again blamed republicans for a stalled agenda and again demanded they blow up the senate rules, which leadership has vowed it will not do. let's bring in tonight's panel. gosh, you know, watching those republican congress men go to the cameras and just hate on this idea of steve mnuchin walk not guilty there and saying do it for me of the vote on this

bill for me. >> yeah. mnuchin doesn't really know his way around washington. you don't do that. i mean, nobody cares. nobody is going to win one for the gip per, the treasury secretary. so this was more evidence of their ignorance about the way washington really works. but the overall news is good for the country. >> dooungs. >> bipartisanship is good. this is the way politics used to work in prior administrations where everything wasn't a party line vote. you got a lot more done that way. and there's a possibility that whatever happens at the end of the year that trump and the democrats can get infrastructure, maybe even a tax bill and a number of other pieces of legislation. it's not likely, but it's now much more possible than it was before. >> hold on. is this now trump switching parties? is he going to be more on the side of the democrats suddenly or is he just going to go whichever way the wind takes him. >> whichever way the wind takes him and depending on the issue and where he is with his base.

and the big thing is does he see his poll numbers move after these storms. if he thinks that the bipartisanship got him somewhere, then he'll probably keep going. but he's going to run into certain problems because at some point he does need republican leadership to get things done and there is only so far. >> certain things like the wall. >> well, building the wall. to jonathan's point, the democrats, chuck and nancy did great because they're going to come up against this in december. they're going to say can they get daca for the wall. >> it sets them up with good leverage down the line. this idea that his base is a bunch of conservatives and they're very partisan and ideological. they're not. they're much more for donald trump than they are for the republican party or any single policy. i spoke to a guy in front of a rally and asked him why he likes donald trump. i said what if ep doesn't build a wall. it's okay.

i trust his judgment. it's an emblematic so it doesn't matter where donald trump goes. >> it's so easy to lose sight of what you just said because we follow legislative politics and we think of it in terms of republican president, house, senate. he's got this republican faction mad at him. the fundamental thing you always have to remember about the dynamic that's at work here is that donald trump was a personality-based, personality-driven candidacy that essentially functionsed as an independent who crushed the republican party. these people did not endorse him in the republican primaries. he did not peculiar up his first congressional endorsement until after the nomination was practically on lockdown. many of these republicans fought him vehemently. they said this guy is going to lose -- >> they said 50 republicans, lawmakers both current and former said i'm not going to vote for him or i think he

should step aside. steve bannon's, donald trump former chief strategist was talk to go charlie rose about this on cbs and he designed that "access hollywood" tape as a litmus test. take a listen. >> the republican establishment is trying to nullify the 2016 election. that's a brutal fact we have to face. >> who? >> i think mitch mcconnell and to a degree paul ryan. they do not want donald trump's populist, economic, nationalist agenda to be implemented. >> basically right there he's saying that the republicans are not trumpists. trumpism is not republicanism. it's whatever his base wants. >> i think the 2016 pliem aers proved that. look at the candidates who ran. look at the warnings they sounded about donald trump. the national review, one of the preeminent conservative publications ran a full issue dwoed to never trump. 20 condemnations from every leader conservative voice saying

you cannot call yourself a conservative and support him. and the republican electorate voted for him anyway. i've never seen in any party somebody emerge with a nomination with not just less support from a party infrastructure, establishment but more overt hostility that should kill any -- >> fox news wasn't even on his side until the very end of the campaign. hold on. problematic stuff here of the if he sides and goes over and starts working with the democrats, given all the out rages and controversies and all the times the democrats have said how dare this man act the way he does, charlottesville being the last time that happened. that was only a couple of weeks ago of the i know we like to move on with the news. how do the democrats justify working with him when they've gone back and said the same things that republicans were saying? how do they not look like hip credits here. >> it's almost like everything is written in invisible ink in

washington. you can't be keeping score that way. you have to do what's right for the country and all this chatter about this negotiation, he got taken to the clearance about the democrats, maybe he did, but the point is they needed to step up and do something about the hurricanes, not just play politics. that's what the people wanted and that's why they're reacting positively to this and if they can use that as a tell me plate to do it on infrastructure and some other issues, the democrats, even though they zpies trump over more than the republicans do, can get some business done with him. >> there's also news of these high-profile retiermts in the republican party in congress. congressman like art and dent both saying they're not going to seek re-election. >> and who can blame them because they don't need to go through this process and get a primary on their right that's supported by the president. who wants to do that? and there's been a couple other folks who said they don't want

to be involved anymore because congress is not governing right now. and it'sment a great place to be. so why be there. >> it's not fun. >> i don't know if it was ever fun, but it's certainly not a good place to be. but just want to touch about memories. let's not for get when everyone thought that infrastructure would be the first thing that donald trump would do. chuck schumer seemed open to the idea. >> yeah. >> and what happened, he got pick he had outside his home in brooklyn. it scared him to death. and that's when he made a huge pivot back and really hunk erred down against donald trump. so they have that relationship. >> donald trump is complicated. it's complicated, guys. susan, steve and jonathan, thank you guys so much. and south florida is still bracing for the biggest storm since hurricane andrew. we're going to have the latest on irma's path coming up nextment

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i think you're right, though. i think after this weekend, people are going to be calling irma the big hurricane instead of andrew. let's show you why. so take a look at andrew in 1992, this storm came right across the tip of florida, went from east to west. was a category 5 in the water. category 4 just before impact. ask then did incredible damage across the areas from homestead, a little bit of south miami too. a lot of damage, buildings flattened, neighborhoods unrecognizable and it was a category 5 for just 16 hours and the size, about 180 miles wide. now, take a look at irma. this is the storm we're talking about for this weekend's impact in south florida. this is a monster storm. 370 miles wide. this has been a cat 5 or was a cat 5 for about 69 hours. that's a record. no other tropical cyclone on the planet has had that strength for that long. so this is a big monster, very powerful storm. and the difference is the movement. being loo at this thing. taking the tip as an impact in the keys and then going right up the state of florida.

there is no part of the state left untouched by this storm. so way different, much more impactful. here is where the eye of that storm is right now crewsing just a little bit north of cuba along the coastline. highest sustained winds 1555 miles per hourment that's a 4. but don't excited about it not being a 5 because a 5 is 156. so it's a bad bad bad as they get kind of hurricane we're tracking. look at it as the next few hours and days as it makes its beline across the coast of cuba directly to the tip of fla. the worst impacts of the storm will be right at the eye. if my fist is the eye, the top of my fist is the worst winds, the 155 is-mile-per-hour winds right there only in the eye wall. and the worst storm surge right there on the right hand quadrant, the right hand quadrant, top right of that eye. so if that eye is on the everglades side of the coast, then the florida side, the populated side from homestead to miami doesn't get the eye wall,

and that's great news if it happens. but i want all of the keys and all of the tip of florida to brace for impact for this category 4 eye wall. katy. >> sam, i want to step back for a moment and look at harvey, which was record breaking in so many ways. >> sure. >> it just stayed over texas and stayed over louisiana and dropped unimaginable amounts of rain. 50 inches, other than that. >> yeah. >> and now we have irma which is breaking records on its own. what are we supposed to take away from these two powerful storms happening back to back? >> okay. katy, back to back, category 4s have never made impact in the u.s. in the same season. and they've never made an impact back to back. the only thing i'll tell you is from the early days of me learning about global warming and i'm a believer, because global scientists, people who spend their lives studying this believe it and point to it. one of the things they said about warming oceans and oceans absorb the heat in this planet, warming oceans give more fuel to storms, which means more and

bigger storms. certainly stronger storms for the storms that develop. sure, we've had hurricanes before but the impact of arm warmer ocean could mean should mean and looks like it does mean that these storms are stronger now. >> what about those who will say listen, we haven't had a big hurricane here in ten years? >> right. and so we're just now understanding the impact of how much heat oceans absorb. we talk about the melting ice. and katy, i'll do a whole show on this one day with you. >> i'd love to talk about this in-depth. absolutely. i think people don't know anything about it. >> right. and you know what? it's time that we understood it better of the and we're just now understanding how much heat oceans, more of our planet is water, and how much heat those oceans are absorbing. so we're learning now and it will take a few years, a few hurricane cycles before we can point backwards and say there's your evidentiary proof. >> don't know enough about it. sam champion, thanks so much and tharngs for giving us a little

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doris was a senior citizen. she was waiting for her son to pick her up. he did end upcoming. if you see public transit out here now and the streets are decemb deso desolate. public transit is here to get people out of town. they have this metal that's up along the entire street here on washington avenue. it's to make sure that nothing happens to these stores if debris comes flying through and hits. there is one business open. how you doing? >> nice meeting yo u. come on out. why are you still open? >> well, it's mostly because for our old friends around here and local.

are you not scared? >> i'm hoping our building is strongly set. my friends started driving but they stuck in traffic in orlando. >> where are you going to go? we're in evacuation zone a. this is where you don't want to be. >> i've been looking at the shelter. most likely it's going be dade county. we have to make sure we cover everything here. >> make sure you do that. i know there's a lot of people watching now that want to make sure you get to safety. >> absolutely. >> so i can come back and eat more of your food after the hurricane. thank you very much. be safe. >> thank you. >> we're situations like this where people are closing up shop at the last minute. here and there around miami beach but for the most part people are evacuating because when you have 125, 150 miles an

hour potential winds coming through place like this, that is something they have seen before. it kboucould be dangerous situa. >> i'm shocked to see the windows that are not boarded up. we had katie beck on a little orlando. the roads were completely clear. thank you very much. mayor, thank you for joining us. palm beach, what are your residents doing throughout? >> right now everybody has developed a plan. they are working the plan. our evacuation processes are in place. we're evacuating 32,000 people from the three cities south of lake ochichobi. these storms are fluid.

they were beginning the transporting of 32,000 residents to shelters on the east coast. >> what is the last moment that people can evacuate? >> tomorrow afternoon at 3:00, there will be a mandatory county wide curfew. everybody should be off the streets. that's because of the wind levels. even our first responders, everything is shut down. there will be no emergency responders out in the storm weather. tomorrow at 3:00 we'll begin the curfew. people can evacuate up until that time. >> so, allot lot of people are making the comparison to hurricane andrew. does the experience make you aware of, particularly worried about a certain area or anything specific? >> well, we have a very seasoned team here in palm beach county

of highly qualified and dedicated individuals. a variety of agencies and levels of government here working cl collaboratively together. even though this storm appears to be going on the western side of the state, we are not taking any chances. this storm is of historic proportions and we have to be prepared for any situation that arises. >> where will you be riding this out? >> i will be riding it out in my own home which is in a voluntary evacuation area but we have all of our water, our flashlights. we have our suitcases prepared for just in case up through tomorrow at 3:00. if we decide if we need to leave then we will leave at that time.

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governor rick scott will be holding another press conference any moment. keep an eye out for that. that's all for me tonight. we're going to be back more on monday with mtp daily. the beat with ari melber starts ri right now. tonight washington is completing funding for one hurricane while bracing for another. fall out also continuing for that historic appearance by donald trump junior before senate investigators. tonight we have a report on where the russia probe is heading including who bob mueller wants to interview and the latest this politics. we are beginning in florida where the authorities, experts and scientists all agree on one thing. this hurricane is on the way. a category 4 storm. it's expected to tear into the u.s. coastline at wind speeds now exceed 155 miles an hour and the estimates and surges that may exceed ten feet in height. we also can report 1