a unified country when it comes to race. >> thank you very much. that's our show. i'll see you back here tormd. "hardball" with chris matthews starts right now. trump dates democrats. let's play hardball. good eve wng, i'm chris matthews in washington. about 24 hours ago donald trump was sitting down to dinner with house democrat leader nancy pelosi and senate democrat leader chuck schumer. chuck and nancy as the president calls them. joined the president and a few members of his cabinet to discuss trade, china and protection for those called drooe drooemz. around 9:30 p.m. the white house put out a statement that the president had a constructive

working din wer the senate and house minority leaders to discuss policy and legislative priorities. 15 minutes later pelosi and schumer's offices put out a statement of their own, that the president agreed to enshrine the protections of daca into law with a border security excluding the wall that's acceptable to both sides. shortly thereafter according to politico, the white house legislative office was in damage control, saying the president only agreed to work on fixing daca soon, conceding he wouldn't insist that wall funding be part of this particular deal. early this morning hours after the initial dinner, the president was doing his own corrective tweeting. no deal was made last night on da daca. massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. would be subject to vote. but he added, does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serve in the military?

really? congressional republicans were blindsided. >> well from what i've heard, it sounds like a deal to make a deal. >> if the president did make a deal, we've still got to do what we do on capitol hill. >> it was a big theme of his campaign and i think him changing course on this is at his own peril. you know, his base will be very very unhappy with this. >> at his own peril. what's clear is the past 24 hours have left members of the president's party, the republicans, being bypassed, even pushed aside. for the latest on how the negotiations are being received, i'm talking to a msnbc contributor. give me a sense of what the aftershocks are up there on the hill. >> well, the common ground that the president was able to reach with both democrat -- with democrats are left the republicans on the hill confused and on the defensivdefensive. i've been talking to people and the republicans are saying that they don't understand how the president would go out to the white house and have dinner and

over chocolate cream pie basically say he was going to give up what was a large messaging tool during his campaign. dave brat of virginia who is part of the house freedom caucus, the very conservative group in the house, he said that he thinks that the wall absolutely is something that needs to be an important part of border security and he says that the whole election was essentially about the wall. >> well, i don't think he's on base with reality. any way, let me ask you about the one thing i ails ask about. it breaks the heart of the people that deal in generalities. will they get enough votes to get through the house? will they get a vote in the house on this proposal to codify enshrine is the word, daca? >> i think they'll absolutely be able to get the votes if the president sticks to his negotiating tactics and decides that he wants to allow the democrats a large role in figuring out what this legislation actually has inside of it.

now people i've talked to say that muck connell is open to the idea that the president is going to play point on this. but the president doesn't have a lot of experience when it comes to crafting actual policies. so essentially what comes to the house floor is going to be a bill that was written by democrats. >> well, thank you for the update. looks promising. for more, i'm joined with republican strategists. gentlemen from trump's point of view, i want this baby off of my back. i want these people to to be allowed to stay here. i don't want to be the bad guy sending home the people who were brought here as kids. hispanic, the people from that part of the country and latin countrie countries, they want to help these people. the only outsiders here are the right wing republicans who have some notion of a wall which i never thought was real but what do you think? >> first of all, all the president did was decouple the

idea that the wall had to be specific to this piece of legislation. second of all he said no amnesty, said there's no citizenship and there has to be significant security added to this at the borders. not some guy with a flashlight like the democrats like to do. here's the thing. the democrats are running a bit of a scam here. the way that pelosi and schumer did this, they ran out there to put their spin on it, not what the president said because they knew what the reaction would be. >> how do you know what the president said to them in. >> i know it as well as anybody else. >> they were there. >> but the point is what would be their incentive to run out with these statements -- >> because they won. >> no. they're trying to derail it. >> you're a con spe-- >> they were so happy. >> how many wins did the democrats have lately. >> they were trying to imply it was something that it wasn't and to see what the response would be. >> i'm not pollyanna but i believe it's a win-win for trump's the democrats. they both want to help these

people for totally different reasons but they do want to help them. >> i do agree with john. >> agree with what, this was a clever spin? >> there was a clarifying statement today by pelosi's office that says no, there was no final deal. they had agreed to principle. let me back up a minute. >> that's pretty good. agree in principle. >> two things to keep in mind. the president is being criticized for bipartisan or efforts to make a bipartisan deal, what people have been calling for many months. but you've got to step back when daca, the iannouncement was mad, it's consistent with the last few months -- >> you can't do it by eo. >> that's right. and then he said six months. that demonstrates his compassion and willing to work with congress. >> what are we arguing about here? it's going to happen. don't you agree that if congress doesn't act the president will act. he doesn't want this on his back. >> it's not whether they agreed

or disagreed, this president decided he can no longer negotiate through the republican leadership and he's going to become the negotiator at this point on many things. >> republicans watching would like to know. why did he go to mitch and ryan, the speaker first, have the dinner with them about this and then say you may not like this but tomorrow i'm having dinner with nancy and chuck. we're going to work this thing out. why didn't he start with the republicans? >> the lack of the repeal of obamacare changed the rules on everything. he thinks he can be a better negotiator, gets what he wants and then get the republicans on board. >> is he goosing them, saying, look, i've got the democrats now you got to act. >> i think what he's done, and i believe this to be the case, i think he is looking beyond daca and coupling daca. he's not coupling with the wall. but he's going to refer to

massive increases in border security. >> that's what he said today. >> and i think this is an opening to get something that would have been inconceivable a week or two ago. you hear the opposition from congresswoman sanchez and now the democrats. >> what are they complaining about? >> the fact that they want to clean daca. they're upset with the democratic leadership for saying now -- >> there's always going to be people at both ends. president trump supporters exploded at the news that the president is pursuing a deal with democrat leaders. immigration hard liner, here he goes again, u.s. congressman steve tweeted, trump base has blown up within destroyed, irreparable and disillusioned beyond repair. no programs is credible. ann coulter responded to the drooemz by tweeting at this point who doesn't want trump impeached. the president pushed back telling reporters he's not looking for an necessity.

here he is. >> we're not looking at citizenship, we're not looki ii amnesty. we're looking at allowing people to stay here. we're working with the republicans, we're working with democrats. >> looks to me this is part of -- it's a symptomatic problem. we have a lot of young people in the country, 800 thoux or whatever it was, who were brought here mostly by their parents. they didn't have a thought or idea about it. they considered themselves in most cases fair to say americans, they just aren't here legally and they want to give these guy as break. i'm not sure that trump is going all the way with amnesty. he's not giving them citizenship or a route to citizenship just saying the government will be off of your back just like obama said. >> he said we're going to take care of people. that's what the president's words were. the polling for republicans and trump supporters. two-thirds of trump supporters favor daca. and the vast majority of republicans favor daca.

>> this is win-win. >> but you mentioned left and -- you said extreme left and the extreme right in congress. >> yeah. >> have different views. but the vast majority of republicans -- >> i'm with you. you're arguing with nobody. i'm sitting here and not arguing with you. >> what he's done intelligently on this is he's moved the democrat uk party to a position where i don't think they were very recently. >> how so, because they're for stronger border protection in. >> well we have yet to see the details when he refers to a great deal of more border protection and maybe a different way -- >> let me -- look. i'm one of these people in the middle east. i want a final solution. i want to end this debate in our lifetime. now that we're in the mood for getting together, why doesn't one of these sides say we're going to move to get some deals made. let's get back to the thing that passed the senate with a whole bunch of republicans behind it, 12 or 15 republicans behind it that basically said we're going to let people have a path to citizenship, they get in line behind everybody else and

there's no more illegal hiring. it's part of the deal. and republicans -- teddy kennedy was for this, chuck schumer, lindsey graham was for it. please god why can't we end this debate. the people that are here are going to stay here. stop the flow of illegal immigrants in the future. end this debate. why can't we do? >> always the context is what about these people here illegally. what are we going to do about them. let's take care of them. that's just going to encourage a lot more people. >> not if you can't hire people illegally. >> what republicans are doing are contextually saying why don't we look at the working americans here that are impacted and make sure whatever we do isn't going to negatively impact them as well. >> why don't we have a deal? >> for this reason. >> in other words the government is hopeless to deal with immigration. >> we can deal with immigration but we have to do it in sequence. what are we going about the border? what are we doing -- >> you'll never win that with

democrats. democrats will never agree -- >> we hood a deal in 1986 with ronald reagan. >> why don't you want a total deal? >> a total deal has to attend to the problems that we have currently which is still immigrants coming in illegally. if we take care of daca today, will we have a daca situation in five years. >> let me explain the sequence. you can't outlaw illegal hiring now because there are so many people here who are not here legally because they would never be able to work tomorrow morning. you have to do it sequentially. saying from now on this date, anybody that comes in the country past this day can't work here illegally. we're going to enforce it. >> people do it all of the time. there's an underground economy, a cash economy. there's all kinds of overstay situations. >> it's against the law, enforce the law. >> i am for enforcing the law. it's the democrats that called for suspension of the enforcement of the law. >> rush limbaugh who always

likes to solve these problems reminded the president why he was elected. >> boil everything down. trump -- is trump -- i'm asking you who voted for him. is he this tone deaf? is he this ignorant? does he not know what got him elected? does he -- i'm telling you, some of the staunchest trump supporters are out there and they've jumped ship. >> is this going to help lou run in the senate -- >> whether it's rush or steve king, they're responding to what they thought based on what the democrats said. you had pelosi and schumer high-fiving every time you saw this. rush limbaugh is right. who elected him were a lot of democrats in rust belt states, tired about the democrats not doing anything about real immigration reform or protecting the borders. >> let me ask you both. do you think president trump truly wants to help out these people who came here because

their parents brought them here? >> i'm convinced. >> do you believe the democrats wants to help these people whose parents brought them here? >> i truly this is to do everything they can to hurt donald trump. >> they're not here to help those people? >> i think they're playing political with this. >> i don't think president trump is. >> you're hopeless. thank you. you're a good guy. at least you have a heart and a belief system. you think everything is political. >> i think those two are. >> they are ursually. coming up, new reporting out this evening that president trump demanded -- you won't believe this -- that attorney general jeff sessions with him from the beginning he demanded he resigned after trump learned mueller had been hired to lead the investigation. reportedly called sessions to his face in the oval office to his face, the attorney general of the united states an idiot. plus, in the wake of charlottesville, congress pass

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welcome back to hardball. the "the new york times" is reporting new details about how president trump confronted his attorney general, jeff sessions after learning that a special counsel had been appointed to lead the russian investigation. blaming the appointment on sessions decision to recuse himself, trump told mr. sessions that choosing him to be attorney general was one of the worst decisions he had made. he called him an idiot right there in the oval office and said he should resign to his face. sessions told associates it was the most humiliating experience in decades of public life. ultimately his resignation was not accepted by the impulsive president. meanwhile politico reports late

tonight that paul manafort spokesman is expected to testify before a washington grand jury tomorrow. that should be interesting. i'm joined by one of the authors of the "new york times" report on sessions, michael schmitt. what do you have, seven sources for this baby? seven sources that were in the oval office saying that the president called his attorney general that he appointed that was with him from the beginning as an idiot? >> what we try to do is look back on the day that mueller was pointed to try to understand what was trump's reaction to it, where was he and what happened. he's sitting there in the oval office with sessions. he finds out about it and he immediately turns on sessions. he believes that session's decision to recuse himself from the investigation which he had done in march was the ultimate sin here and that allowed for justice department to appoint a special counsel which trump at that point was very deeply concerned about. >> what stopped him from following his impulse and

keeping sessions? >> i think social white house officials realized that the impact of getting rid of the attorney general would be probably disastrous for the white house. at this point he had already gotten rid of the fbi director, gotten rid of the acting attorney general, already gotten rid of his national security adviser. trump has shown he can survive a lot of things. but there was no clear indication that they could actually get a new attorney general through congress. congress probably would have turned that process into a big time sort of thing about the administration on russia. >> boy, it does tell me and all of us how much he feared this special prosecutor with the resume running behind mr. mueller. this guy doesn't lose. go ahead on that thought. >> he says to sessions, you have not been loyal to me. he asked comey about loyalty, asked comey to pledge his loyalty. and it's clear that loyalty to trump is more important than

after r an investigation about a free-willing investigation that can go where it is. trump is very concerned about who is running this investigation, whether it was comey, whether it was sessions or rod rosenstein or this in case mueller. trump is obsessed with who is running it. >> he doesn't have any independents out there certainly not going after him. thank you. another great report. another report on russia meddling in the election. describing russia state run medial outlet. in an in-depth report jim rooten berg examines how the russian media outlets take advantage of open societies. quote, rt and sputnik operate on the stated terms of western liberal democracy. they count themselves as news organizations protected by the first amendment. it's enough cover to wage what putin's top deputy called an informational war. he says that the modern media

landscape quote creates a perfect opportunity for mass disturbances or initiating mass support or mass disapproval. as yahoo! news reports, sputnik is under information for potentially violating the foreign agents registration act which is intended to chekt foreign propaganda. i'm joined by jim rootenburg, the author of the times. congratulations. it is a tokyo rose stuff, if you will. it's propaganda, meant to infiltrate us. why do people on the organization on capitol hill allow those organization to get in and join them as so-called news organizations? why doesn't somebody put up the wall and say you're a bunch of flacks and prop dwan dgran das you have no right to be here. you're not journalists. >> it's a slippery slope. we are the united states of america. we're an open society. and you know, once we get in the

business of deciding whose news is and who isn't, it's a very uncomfortable place for journalists and the government. that's the trick here. this is why it's a very effective tool, if you have a big vast information machine that can operate in a foreign capital and get into the fabric of media, well off to the races. >> but all rt does ansputnik is push the bogus stories like the one you have in your piece about lisa, a young girl, 13 years old was supposedly a russian ethnic who lives in germany who was suppose edly the victim of a crime. it turns out she was withary boyfriend or a guy for 24 mowers. clear there was no crime there. and they ran with the story even when it's demolished as fact. >> that's the thing. it always -- sometimes it's outright the reports get knocked down. sometimes there's a grain of truth. sometimes there's more truth. sometimes there's complete credibility. it's a mix which is also what

makes it a little hard to put your finger on. so that case you referenced, the public was upset and in comes not just rt, not just sputnik but local russian media there in germany and also bots and trolls and twitter and facebook. it's a whole big storm that gets created. >> how is this keblconnected to russian probe we're covering every night. somewhere in the kremlin, i think in the heart and mind of putin, they decided, he decided that he didn't like hillary clinton, at least if she won he was going to be a miserable president. but undermining her in every way in credibility and in the end maybe would pull it for trump. is that part of the nexus, the matrix that we're all in this together, we're on the side of trump and again hillary? >> i think first of all they can point to stories that rt did that were critical of trump. but often when we got in on the hillary side it was the

conspiratorial stuff, a lot of the wikileaks and health concerns and sometimes even more conspiratorial, the seth rich conspiracy. the kremlin is open about one thing. they believe they aren't the ones who started this information. the u.s. did. hillary clinton is seen as a part of the establishment of the u.s. that they think are bringing, you know, kind of trouble to their borders with democracy sort of movements and ngos and even the western media. to them this is fighting back. they're oip about that much. they deny a lot of what is coming at them from our intelligence community. they weren't meddling. but there is an information war. they think they were at some point the victims of it and now they're answering back. that's the way they put it to me in plain terms, at least putin's spokesman. >> i don't take the comparison to voice of america because i listened to it in africa for two years and i found it was like bbc, incredibly honest and forth

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neo-nazis with believe me. not all of those people were white nationalists. >> this was president trump last month after the supremacist. it was passed unanimously by both chambers by the house and. senate. and the white house says the president looks forward signing it. but the president was criticize for not initially disavowing these groups and blaming both sides for the violence. on wednesday south carolina senator tim scott sat down and talk to him about the initial response to the charlottesville violence. >> i wanted to make sure we were clear on the delineation of

who's on which side in the history of the nation. we had a good conversation. >> well the president gave his impression of their talk on air force one today. let's listen to that. >> we had a great talk yesterday. i think especially in light of theed advent of antifa, if you look at what's going on there, you have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also. >> he can't resist. we're joined now by virginia democratic governor terry mccuff. it's amazing. she just can't resist throwing in this moral equivalence. pretty bad dudes. he's president of the united states and talking like that. what does he mean. the anti-fascists are pretty bad dudes? >> first of all there's no moral equivalent of the folks who came to shore lotsville. neo-nazi, white supremacists and the kkk. the people there protesting on the soer side were protesting against hate. had they not come we would not have had those incidents.

unfortunately a 32-year-old woman was killed and i lost two state troopers. close personal friends of mine. one was my pilot. >> really, your pilot. >> went down in a helicopter. so the president needs to show leadership. and i have talked to the president before he gave his speech and that's what i said to him. there is no moral equivalency. >> who is he afraid of offending by stating that he doesn't like nazis? i mean, really. >> you know, my father served in world war ii. i got a son in the marine corps. we've got men and women who have fought and fighting today to preserve our great freedoms and liberties. just came out and say it. they're neo-nazis. >> i agree with you. the fight over statutes. you're representing people with mixed views on this. my problem with that is i think

it should be done locally. it could take a couple of years to take some statues down, a couple more next year. put them in museums. treat them with historical respect. but you have problems with the gettysburg battlefield. what you do with the guy at washington state and old town alexander which is a young humble obviously grit soldier, southern soldier with his head down in defeat. there it is. it's not about we're the right side of the war. >> with his back to washington. >> we're not the right side of the war. >> listen, they ought to be in the battlefields, the museum. >> what about that one there? >> under virginia code those statues before 1947, all local control and the general assembly unless there's smog in the code that protects it. that particular statue is in the code of virginia so it could take the general assembly changing it. >> let me ask you about this

whole democratic party. where do you see the party going? i mean hillary's book by the way, i think the book is really good. some of her defenses on tv get defensive like they often do in debates with people like matt lauer. but she basically said people count on me by the millions and i let them down. it was clear, she accepted defeat rather graciously in the beginning of the book. bernie sanders she blames. that is going on. where is the democratic party going to be as we look down the road to 2018, 20, bernie sanders with a strong regiment of supporters, a lot of young people. schools are going to be free, health is going to be free. he makes it popular in his brand of old time socialism has been updated to be appealing. who is going to win that fight? >> first of all, the person who ought to win the fight is the one with the best ideas and gets results if for doing it. virginia, unemployment has gone from 5.4.

3.7. i've taken juvenile justice down, record amount of jobs, record capital investment. people want results from politicians. >> do they in. >> they're tired of talk. >> they don't want ideology. the people in virginia, they're happy. record investment in k 12, $2.4 billion investment in our higher end research facility. we have results. vi so many open jobs i got to fill, that's why we're forming our education system. we are now teaching cybersecurity in kindergarten. we're leading on workforce development. 50,000 s.t.e.m. age credentials. >> your state like north carolina, a little behind you is modernizing, becoming a high-tech state. tremendous university system. then you have states like wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, that haven't been able to get on the track. they're in the industrial age and they don't like what's going on because they're losing jobs and pay. how do you talk to those people.

>> you got to build the new economy. >> do you think that will work, a new economy in states like pennsylvania? >> virginia, a very rural state. the unemployment has all gone down, lancaster, paige, very rural. every one of the counties has gone down. we're leading cybersecurity data analytics. it is a new economy. you've got to get into that. that's why governors have to lead. we're out front on job creation, economic empowerment. >> see how good he is? he still wears the green tie of his people. thank you. >> and the american flag. >> both of them. that's good. up next, a report from st. john and that's one of the islands really hit by hurricane irma. that's in the u.s. virgin islands. you're watching "hardball." the reason i'm telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that... you'll never be ready for.

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i did not collude with russia, nor do i know of anyone else in the campaign who did so.

i had no improper contacts. i have not relied on russia funds for my businesses. and i have been fully transparent in providing all requested information. >> i don't know. welcome back. denying any collusion with russia, president trump's son-in-law there, an adviser, jared kushner also denied any impropriety in that december meeting with the head of russia's state owned bank. since that meeting kushner divested from if family business. however, as investigations proceed, pressures at 666 5th avenue is building. he bought the address for $1.8 billion. the highest price paid at that point for any office tow near the united states. the washington post points out that expert speculate that kushner had vastly overpaid and that months after buying the building the great recession

pummelled values. now kushner's role in government has made the kushner company's manhattan property toxic to investors. kushner's move to the white house just about completely chilled the market. potential investors said no way, can't be associated with any appearances of conflict of interest. let's bring in tonight's hardball round table. liza collins, jason johnson is politics editor for the root and zeke miller, the white house correspondent. i want you to start on this. it looks to me that this young guy put down his note for $1.8 billion without any way to pay for it hoping that the revenues from rentals would bring it in. then he runs into trouble because there was a great recession. he had the sell off the retail spaces killing his revenue flow then then he sold off off of the office space, again killing off the revenue flow.

he owes tons of money. nobody to invest in him and very little revenue flow coming from rental. i don't know how he's not in the hock a big time and how he's not going to get out of it. >> it's a financial issue for him and part of the reason why he's having trouble attracting investors is that people don't want to associate themselves necessarily -- >> how can he sit in the white house and try to get himself out of the ditch while he's in the white house? >> there are processes of what he does control and who what he doesn't control. but that is an open question. we need to hear at some point from jared kushner how he's not expos exposed, how he's not vulnerable here if he is in that financial state. >> i'm jared kushner and i'm at the white house, here's my number, 456-1414. the united states white house. he calls around the the chinese and the russians asking for money. isn't that a conflict of interest? you need to reach me? i work at the white house. all of the foreign governments

think here's a way to buy the government. bail this guy out. >> it's not only a conflict of interest, a problem for him, his businesses and president trump, he's the most valuable thing he has. he's got a security clearance. so when people call him, they're not asking to invest in his businesses. they're asking him to reveal or give hints about information that would endanger him and this entire administration. he's sitting on a gold mine. >> what makes you think that's something he could negotiate. >> think about the meeting that he went to that don jr. had. you're a government person. do you know anything about hillary clinton? you can imagine those kinds of questions being asked of kushner. we don't want you to give hus state secrets. tell us what's going on in the white house. >> i want to know what he was doing with the head of the russian bank. you might go to the bank for money. >> he said it had nothing to do with his businesses. >> even though he's in hock. >> there's an issue here, especially with investors, don't

want to get involved with anyone in the white house. he's now under investigation when it comes up. why would you want to subject yourself to this and be, you know, questions there's an fbi investigation, a congressional investigation, and then also just news, headlines, conflicts of interest. >> the argument that the president makes is he has no involvement economically with russia. and over and over again we keep hearing about these involvements. all entangled in the same meetings for all we can tell. >> that's their problem, they deny, deny, deny and then it drips out that the denials were blanket when they should have been caveated. in terms of what robert mueller has to deal with now, it's always -- it's -- maybe it's not the crime -- >> do you think the president can fence himself off from his family. i didn't like the nepotism. they found a law that allowed

them to do it. can the president separate himself from his own family. >> legally or politically. >> politically, probably not. >> he's not taking them on the trip to china. what does that tell you? he's not taking ivanka or jared kushner to china. is that related to this or is john kelly, the chief of staff finally getting control of reality in the white house saying mr. president, you've got to stop hanging around with their family of yours. they're causing you trouble. >> i think john kelly could be putting separations. but i don't think president trump is saying i want you guys to stay away. >> how come they're not going to china with him? do you know? who knows why they're not going? >> because it's dangerous. >> i don't often read this newspaper. the south china morning post. ivanka trump and jared kushner's trip to china may have been canceled because some officials in the white house decided the couple were not suitable to make

preparations for u.s. president donald trump's visit to beijing. >> they sent this guy to negotiate middle east paseace. >> the south china morning did report that. what do you make of it? this is going to bug trump. >> ivanka trump has her own fashion line and there's issues with that in china. that could be john kelly saying no, but who knows. >> there's something i know nothing about. >> everybody is afraid of a bes trait m desperate man. no one takes your phone calls. and the fear of being connected with jared kushner could put you in international trouble. >> denzel washington, oscar winning performance in "training day." go ahead. >> the chinese are sensitive to issues of protocol. are they the best face of the united states, the best face of the presidency.

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democrats because they're working with the white house on legislation that would do daca. >> they're going to deal wit on their side? >> they've had meetings with the administration. >> it would be helpful to the people, the 800,000 here. >> he said there would be something formaybe. we'll see. >> what you may not know is a month ago the missouri state legislature was going to kick out maria shapomada, who posted she hoped president trump would be assassinated. i guess they decided they could only censure her, because another republican in her party posted anyone that complains about confederate monuments should be hung and they didn't want to apply the same standard to their own party. >> the proper term is hanged, we got to get that right. thank you, zeke. >> at the white house they believe the last two weeks have been among the best of the trump presidency, between the response to the hurricane which has been shown competence and daca. >> i bet he's over 40%, i made that bet last night. no money, just a gentleman's

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really be landslides. already fema has come, delivered 400,000 meals, 270,000 liters of water. but that is only the beginning. the hospitality industry many say it accounts for 60% of the gdp for islands like this but it is not 60%. it is closer to 80%. and the real question is going to be how long is it going to take to really get infrastructure back? earlier we went up and saw the health clinic. they have so few supplies at this point. remember, this isn't the continental u.s. it is going to take such a long time to really restore things. we've spoken to people today who have lost their homes, who now are simply trying to get tarps ahead. it's going to be another night with rain above and people are simply trying to stay safe. luckily there is more military presence. there's a curfew put in place so you don't see people walking around the streets. there was some looting earlier this week. but it's really people trying to look for food and safety.

and at this point countries like this, islands like this, we need to remember that it's the u.s. virgin islands. they certainly need aid. >> thank you, stephanie rule. by the way i did sit on that dock in cruise bay what a place. let me finish with "trump watch." david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations

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"trump watch" thursday, september 14th, 2017. the great liberal historian arthur schlessinger jr. said

politics is a learning procession, you learn as you go along. democrats joined in correcting a macetake made in the wake of charlottesville. they allowed the issue to shift from the president's moral equivalency about naziism and anti-naziism to the question of statute use of confederate leaders. the democrats shifted the question which 90% of the people disagreed with president trump to an issue that remains a hot debate somewhere between the 40 yard lines. this is not the first time i recall the democrats decided to pick the wrong line on which to fight. i remember when president reagan was caught selling missiles to the ayatollahs in iran, they allowed the issue to shift to the administration using the profits from that sale to arm the contras in nicaragua. why shift from an issue of national betrayal to a question of whether or not we should arm an anti-communist faction in central america? it was another case of choosing an ideological position on which to fight over a winning issue on which to fight. yesterday the democrats got it right by joining in the joint

resolution which president trump will be forced to sign that puts the fight back where it belongs in condemning neo-nazis and kkk'ers and other american hate groups. it's not only the moral position to take, it's one that will clearly remind the country that it was the democrats who had it right after charlottesville and the republican president who had it wrong. wrong morally. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in." >> what do you say to people who call you amnesty don? >> mute they on the far right. >> that is the wall almost become symbolic? >> chuck and nancy ride again. tonight, talk of impeachment and primary challengers from his base. >> does he not know what got him elected? >> after the president's latest dalliance with democrats. >> if they're unable to stick together, then i'm going to have to get a little help from the democrats. then, michael moore on whethe