person they have now in custody. plus -- >> jason stockily said he was going to kill somebody, he killed that man, and why don't the courts believe that's premeditated murder? >> frustration growing in st. louis following the acquittal of a former police officer on trial for the 2011 shooting death of anthony lamar smith. all that this hour, but we start in st. louis, where another rally is expected to begin shortly after protests there turning violent overnight. the anger stemming from friday's acquittal of a white police officer as was just mentioned. so far nine officers have been injured and there have been 32 arrests. today u 2 announced they are cancelling tonight's st. louis performance because police told them they would not be able to provide adequate protection for

kons concert goers. tell us what the latest is. >> reporter: we're getting to the point in the day, richard, where people start to tense up a little bit. as you said, there's this rally about an hour from now downtown. we're at a mall in the suburbs where protesters showed up and actually shut the mall dawn for a time. as we head into night-time, that's when people get a little bit nervous. that's when protests turn violent. the governor said that lfr across the board is on guard. -- law enforcement. >> you assault a law enforcement officer, we'll arrest you. violence and vandalism is not protest, it's a crime. people out there throwing bricks and bottles are going to be thrown in jail. we're not going to tolerate this kind of violence in the state of missouri. >> reporter: there was not any violence to speak of today, as we said, very peaceful protests at two area malls and a food

festival. this other rally to come later today, as protesters or at least a core group of them, try to give an economic message here. one person who came out, he said, in support of the protesters, said that that's a start, but now the question is follow-through. >> same people who are in the protest group are going to go out later and have a bite to eat at a restaurant. you know, what are the optics? where is the money from the restaurant going? we need to be more attentive and more responsible with our spending. we have to do better than just screaming and yelling and protesting. >> reporter: all this calm today in marked contrast to last night, where there was property damage, there were several police officers injured. some 32 people arrested as the protests did indeed turn violent. all of this to protest the acquittal yesterday morning of former police officer jason chykie, who was acquitted in the

shooting death of anthony lamar smith in 2011. chykie said that he was shooting in self-defense. the prosecution said it was a premeditated murder. the judge said he could not be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. all of this ratcheting up the tensions existing in in area for years. and we'll see how they go into tonight. richard? >> scott, how are they discussing it locally? how is police, law enforcement, and residents putting this into the context of three years ago, michael brown, are they worried they'll see that sort of conflagration? >> reporter: well, i'm sure that there is almost universal hope that they won't. you definitely see a very visible police presence in various areas downtown this morning out at the malls here and people that are nervous about this, and that is a topic of discussion here over the last couple days. what have we learned since

ferguson? have we learned anything? how have we progressed? and we're kind of putting that to the test over these couple of days and possibly through the rest of the weekend. >> thanks so much. nbc's scott cohn on the ground for us. again, there will be another protest in about an hour and we'll be watching it right here. now we'll take to the national mall in washington, d.c. there, backers of the president are participating in what organizers call the mother of all rallies. you can see some of the live pictures there. the official website for the rally offers something of a mission statement for the event with part of it reading, quote, rally participants will demand protection for traditional american culture, while they express their love for the united states and the america first agenda. the event started at 10:00 a.m. eastern and is scheduled to wrap up shortly. now seven hours later, the pro trump rally will not be the only activity on the national mall as members of the alt-right have been paralleled by anti-trump

protesters g protesters who are calling on trump to take more action in response to the kremlin's mettling in the 2016 race. mike is on the national mall monitoring this gathering all day for us. and the last time you and i spoke, you were saying, this really was a cumbaya for the most part of the alt-right for those who are supporters of donald trump and that you did not see much, if you will, conflict. >> reporter: well, it's funny. this is sort of the red meat for the trump base, but with a very friendly face and self-consciously so. for the org nianizers of this rally, we've seen some action on the outside on the perimeter, here in the heart of the american democracy, but many of the people here are trying to keep things peaceful. you would see militia members who were unarmed, as well as

others associated with the rally, sort of gather around these controversies in these arguments, almost like anti-bodies, trying to contain this before it got out of hand. they've been largely successful. we've heard the standard rhetoric from the podium, you hear someone talking about the need to get tough on terrorism, talking building the wall, draining the swamp, calling for john mccain to leave office, for lindsey graham to be voted out of office. people they considered republicans in name only. this is a hard core conservative pro-trump crowd, and it's a little bit thinner than theinizers expected. they had a permit for a certain number of people. i've asked them whether their support is wavering in the face of the president caving on thek

daca immigration question, not these folks. they are four-square behind the president. >> on the mall with a gathering towards the end of the day, thanks so much, vick. republicans at today's rally on the national mall are not the only ones that are fired up over president trump. a number of conservative voices from rush limbaugh to steve king have expressed frustration, the opposite of what you're seeing there on the national mall. they're frustrated with the president after congressional democrats announced on wednesday they are working with the president to seal a deal that would protect daca recipients and border security at the same time. donald trump spent much of his campaigning during the 2016 race, as you might remember here, calling for tough immigration reform and preventing people who had come to the united states illegally from remaining in the country. let's go to congressional reporter for "the washington post," kelsey snell, white house

columnist for the hill, nile stan ij. you see the live pictures, for the most part, all together, in support of this president. but sat the same time, we have establishment and alt-right saying this is not the president that we want. in fact, if we were at this gathering, we would be protesting against the president. how much of a splinter is this? and how durable is it, nile? >> i think it is a sizeable splinter, richard. and certainly, if you look at that rally, billing itself as the mother of all rallies, i'm not sure that the attendance measures up to that billing. but there are real divisions here and i know from my own reporting that there are people very close to president trump who are very worried about this daca move people are talking about, west wing democrats destroying his presidency. people saying that his base won't stand for amnesty in any

form. so while you do have people who are going to stand four-square behind the president, building the wall and a rather anti-immigration position was central to his rallies, that i think it's a big political problem for him. >> so similar to his rise. we'll see a similar gathering on the west coast in berkeley, not from this same group, but of those from the alt-right that like ann coulter speaking in support of these particular, if you will, very conservative values. will we see repeats of the washington mall across the country and does that mean in 2018, this movement will be stronger? >> it's really hard to tell at this point. we're still very early on. what we have here on daca in particular, is not necessarily an agreement that would turn into directly legislation. what we have here is that the

president agreed with minority leader nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to begin negotiations on something. there have been stark differences about what they say the details of what they agreed to are. so i think people are upset at the idea that the president is moving away from his central, political arguments, but it's not entirely clear that's how this will end up. there's a lot more to be done here and i think there are many people on capitol hill who say it's such an unconventional president that they just -- they're not ready to judge, they're not ready to jump forward and say, he is making a deal or he isn't making a deal. they're saying he's just trump being trump. >> at the white house, how did this come about? last wednesday and this wednesday, the president has come out with these meetings with leaders on the other side of the aisle. how did this come about? >> the short answer is because of his frustration with republican leaders in congress, the president has been very disenchanted with the failure to, for example, repeal

obamacare. he clearly blames mitch mcconnell and paul ryan for that. a number of the people who i spoke to suggest that that's a really pivotal motivation in trying to do deals. they also point out that the president is a transactional figure. he does want to get things done, and he's not necessarily someone who is a fixed ideological anchor when it comes to that. >> kelsey, when you see the two republican leaders get the news, their mouths were probably hanging open at that moment. what was that mood like that you were reporting on? >> well, we were talking to the leaders and to even rank and file republicans, who tried to say that nothing had happened, that these deals didn't exist, or when it came to the spending bill and debt limit deal, it wasn't exactly as great a deal as democrats were celebrating. i think they're confused. i think they don't know how to talk about this and what to

expect. republicans say they're aware that their republican between their leaders and the president, you know, it's just not warm. and personality wise, i've heard people say schumer and trump are more similar, both new york guys, both with big personalities and they can chat the way that the president has had trouble doing with mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. and people undervalue how much that means to this president. he's not a politician. you know, he comes from new york, and he has a very, very different expectations about what his relationships are going to be like. >> which will mean, and it's been said by many of our ilk, journalists watching washington, d.c., that this will happen again, that the president will shift and move the other way and work with the leaders of his own party. nile, when you look at president trump, the question is, what will be next then?

will we see tax reform as a bipartisan issue that both sides will be able to set down and get this done? >> we could theoretically, but what president trump has put forth on tax reform so far has been very, very broad. we know that he favors a reduction of the corporate tax rate. we don't know a whole lot more than that and of course this is an issue where the minutia is very, very important. i do think that your broader point is well made, richard, it's not that he's necessarily moving in some definitive way toward the center or toward democrats. he's trying to maneuver to find some way that he can achieve something. his legislative achievements are very, very thread bare given that republicans have controlled the senate and the house all year and he's been in the white house. so i think that's the sort of dynamic that produces these moves. >> interesting you bring it up, and over to you, kelsey, i think

it was during one of the christmas parties in washington, d.c. that the members were going, what's going to be next with this new president? i'm not sure how he is going to be making his decisions. what's interesting is that they're saying the same thing today. >> yeah, i mean, i want to go back to something that nile just said, this idea that the president is talking about tax reform, is really different than -- actually, he's not really talking about tax reform, he's talking about tax cuts. i think it's important to look at the way he's phrasing things. he says tax cuts. paul ryan says tax reform. mitch mcconnell is kind of waiting to see which way the wind blows on this one. the finance committee in the seant is working hard, but people are wondering who they can trust and it's not a conventional way of doing big legislation. >> and the criticisms, democrats are saying don't work with president trump, don't trust them. those are their words, not mine.

are they saying this because they really can't trust this president, that daca may actually turn out to be nothing, a nothing burger as is the words that have been used? >> they don't think that the leopard that is donald trump is going to change his spots, essentially. they see him as having pursued a very hardline, obviously with daca and also things like the travel ban and all of that. there is also, i think, a point to be made about the politics of the base in each party. the democratic base loathes president trump, so in that respect there's not much incentive for democratic leaders to cooperate with him unless they feel they can really rule him, and that's not always going to be the case. >> and kelsey, is trump testing that theory, how much of my base might i lose? i might see the maga hats being burned, but maybe i won't lose the base they think i should when i go for daca.

>> i think that particularly, i've got a story out that just posted a little bit ago, with several of my colleagues talking to democrats about this. and they're not thinking about trying to erode trump's base. they're trying to get at the republicans who were somewhere in the middle who maybe didn't feel great about -- >> in play. >> right. they maybe didn't feel great about hillary clinton and the president was speaking to them on an economic level, talking about things they needed and wanted to hear. democrats think if they can cut deals with the president and make it look like he's coming to them, moving towards them, instead of them moving towards him, then this works out great for them in the end. >> and secretary clinton out in media of late. interesting to see the president not go full bore against her, he's been instead using most of his communication time focused on other things, for the moment. kelly, nile, thank you. >> thank you.

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>> there's a new development new in the ongoing russia probe. robert mueller obtained information from facebook on russia-linked ads that ran during the presidential election. mueller is adding this to his staff. kylie freeney jumps to his team from a money laundering unit. joining me now, renato marriotty. let's start with the facebook data, the report from the "the wall street journal", that the data robert mueller has is what they're reporting because if so,

it's quite significant. >> it's very significant. and i had written about this on twitter earlier this morning and it's been blowing up on twitter and i think, you know, i actually waited. i saw the story, i think, last night from "the wall street journal" and i waited until cnn confirmed it, because i was looking for a second source. because it is such explosive news. what it means is that robert mueller has presented evidence and convinced a federal judge that there's good reason to believe that foreign individuals made a contribution to a -- in connection with a presidential campaign and that is a crime and he's investigating that as part of this case. >> yeah, okay, so two sides. sorry to interrupt you. so is the bigger deal the fact that he was able to convince a federal judge and therefore the

data and the proof that he had to provide, or is it that the facebook warrant itself and the data from that is a bigger deal? >> what i think is the big deal is that it shows that mueller believes that a crime has been committed, that he has enough evidence to convince a judge. it tells you that he's pursuing that as a path in this case. what it means is, he is kind of honing in on charging people who are foreigners, of contributing to our election and that opens up liability for americans, people who were potentially associated with the trump campaign. because if they aided and abetted that activity, then they're also responsible. what that means, essentially, if they knew that a crime was being committed and they tangibly helped that in some way, if they helped move that forward, they are also forward for that crime. it is the first time, i will tell you, if you had me on this

show yesterday and asked me, do you think there will an indictment with a russian person's name and an american's too, i don't know if i would be too sure. now this shows that mueller is focused on russian interference in the election and there could be potential charges out of that. >> i'll read what they're reporting in terms of the information they got from facebook are. copies of the ads themselves, details about the accounts that bought them, three that targeting criteria they used. four, the people also saying that facebook policy, they would normally not turn over this information, but because of a search warrant, they, therefore, would turn it over. that fourth one being that, will we see other social media information from other social media platforms being revealed? of all of that, will that then help us find who did this and, therefore, specifics that we would not have otherwise?

>> well, certainly mueller will be focused on what prosecutors call identity. he's going to be trying to figure out who did this, who the exact individuals were behind it, that's for sure. but even if he didn't identify them, he could still indict u.s. people who he does identify. and i think what's interesting there, the request for targeting information, because that might be information that was provided by somebody in the united states, to assist the russians in targeting their advertisements, to be the most effective to influence our elections. >> how critical will this data be, do you believe, in robert mueller's case? >> i think it's very important. i told you a moment ago, okay, aiding and abetting, an american could be responsible for that. but robert mueller has to prove the underlying crime. there's discussion in the media

and elsewhere that the russians interfered in the election. i don't think there's a question about it. but he has to prove it. he has to see what connections he can draw between that and individuals that he wants to charge. this is very much a turning point in terms of our knowledge of the case. >> we have to go, but what does this tell us about the stage of his case? is he in the beginning, middle or end? >> still a long way to go. just tells me the investigation is bigger than i thought. >> thank you very much. thank you. coming up, deal or no deal. after president trump unexpectedly teams up cwith democrats to find a solution for daca. the question now, what will it mean for the hundreds of thousands of d.r.e.a.m.ers waiting to see if they can continue their lives in america? (dog) mmm.

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is for his supporters and for his base. >> there's no doubt about it.

i think his base still thinks that a wall is very much on the table. literally and figuratively. i know that most members of congress think this is a nonstarter. there are so many nuances here. number one, the eminent domain issue. number two, building the wall on private property which could be unconstitutional. the third point is, who's going to pay for this? the president has said declaretively mexico is going to pay for it. i've yet to see, we can't force a foreign country to pay for anything they want to pay for. >> robert, the complexity he added in was, wait, it doesn't have to be part of daca deal. >> richard, that makes my point. he's so -- he's so in the moment, such a pragmatist, such a insti stinstinctive leader.

today he can say one thing and tomorrow quickly change his mind. you can back and say, mr. president, i thought that's what you meant, he can say with a straight face, no, that's not what i meant. you don't know what donald trump is going to wake up in the morning, you don't know what donald trump you're negotiating with. that's the hard part here. >> i'll just add to that, "wait" is a euphemism for this ain't gonna happen. >> you think intergoing goinit happen? >> no, i don't. as robert said, most republicans in congress don't support it. it goes against conservative principles on issues like eminent domain. while there is a large segment of donald trump's base that likes it, what we've seen is his base has been extremely flexible and willing to stand behind him as he's sort of contowarted on issues. >> but liz, his base is burning

hats, it's a viral video right now, his base saying "i don't like this." i was talking to mike beccera at the top of the show here, the alt-right gathering in washington, d.c. saying i would be protesting against the president if i were there. >> i'll believe it when i see it reflected in public opinion polling. from everything we've seen so far, his base seems more interested in backing trump than really backing any sort of principles. >> so are we going to see here, robert, on wednesday, and i mentioned this earlier, on a wednesday we get a deal on the budget, the next week we get something on daca, this coming wednesday we get a deal on tax reform? >> no. tax reform is really difficult. the last time we did that was 1986. we may get a tax cut, the

republicans may tinker with tax rates and call that tax reform. but comprehensive tax reform, i don't see that happening this year with all the republicans have to do this year, i don't see tax reform happening. >> liz? >> i agree, if anything happens, it will be tax cuts. with all the special interests that will descend on washington, no, i do not see that happening this year. >> what we do have, though, is the president at the u.n. which we'll talk about later. that's a whole other topic. liz, robert, you'll be back with us later, thanks for sticking around. next, we're live in london with the latest on the investigation as authorities remain on high alert. next time, i want you on my bowling team.

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welcome back. i'm richard lui at msnbc headquarters in new york city. at the half hour, here's what we're watching for you. a pro trump rally build as the mother of all rallies is happening on the mall in washington, d.c. supporters say they're sticking with the president despite his recent efforts to work with democrats. tropical storm jose has been upgraded to a category 1 hurricane. we're keeping an eye on that. it could strengthen as it moves toward the coast. north carolina to new england could be affected by jose with dangerous surf and rip currents at the very least, in the coming days. british police made an arrest today in connection to friday's terrorist attack. an 18-year-old man arrested in the port city of dover today. police said they were searching a home in a london suburb and

evacuating neighbors as a precaution. meanwhile, the scene of the attack has been reopened, as officials held an emergency cabinet meeting to discuss the threat level facing the country. joining me from london, claudio novada. the concern today of another atta attack. >> absolutely, richard. there were more details given out at the latest press conference where to or three hours now, in the latest judgments they said they arrested the 18-year-old man in the departure area in the port of dover and he's now been held in a london police station. the fact that he was arrested in the departure area of the port suggests he may have wanted to escape to mainland europe as the port is a departure point for

ferries to france. police said they retrieved several items, we don't know yet what they were. armed police cordoned off a part of town in surrey and evacuated neighbors while they carried out a search in a house. that's also linked to yesterday's attack. police say they keep an open mind on whether there is more than one person involved even though there was no suggestion from them that police knew those responsible prior to the attack. at least that's what you may remember yesterday was suggested by president trump in a tweet. he said among other things that the attackers were in the sight of scotland yard. that didn't go down well with british authorities, including prime minister theresa may, who is rarely critical of donald trump. yet last night we gave an interview in which she openly rebuked his claim. that's listen to what she said.

>> i don't think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing situation. police are working to discover the full circumstances of this cowardly attack and to identify all those responsible. >> richard, you may remember this is not the first time trump's tweets angered british authorities, especially in the aftermath of an attack like this one. back in june, following another attack that left seven people dead, the president openly criticized the mayor of london when he said there was no reason to be alarmed. the tweet was called an outrage back then. that doesn't seem to have deterred the president from causing yet another tweet storm, richard. >> nbc's claudio lavanga, thank you, claudio. a war of words continues between president trump and an espn sportscaster. the white house has called her tweets about trump a fireable

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i want to get you straight to this video, we're watching a developing story in st. louis. protesters watching through the west county center mall in st. louis to continue the protests that started yesterday after the acquittal of a former st. louis police officer in the shooting death of a black driver. another protest is scheduled to begin in the next hour or so, the next bunch of minutes. this coming in for us at a mall. and this is one of the protesters' moves that we've seen before there in st. louis. we're keeping an eye on what's happening there as protests move through a st. louis mall there. a war of words to tell about you today, heating up between

president trump and a prominent espn commentator. it all began with jemele hill calling the president a white supremacist. now trump is demanding an apology. nbc's peter alexander with more for us. >> reporter: president trump, who has long made the news media a target -- >> fake news. fake news. >> reporter: -- taking aim at sports network espn. >> we're going to see a lot of teams off to slower starts. >> reporter: after african-american anchor jemele hill tweeted "donald trump is a white supremacist." hill is a co-anchor of espn's "sports center." she called president trump "the most ignorant, offensive president of my lifetime. trump tweeted, "espn is paying a price for its politics." the press secretary suggested the sportscaster should lose her

job. >> certainly that's something that i think is a fireable offense by espn. >> reporter: sanders was asked whether the network should fire hill. >> that's not a decision i'm going to make. that's something for espn to decide. >> reporter: the national association of black journalists says it supports hill's first amendment rights. the sportscaster tweeted, "my comments express my personal beliefs." espn's president says, "our handling of this is a private matter." peter alexander, nbc news, the white house. >> i would like to bring in our panel, robert tra, what do you of what has happened in this case and do you think that espn has reacted and conducted itself the way they should have? >> what a conundrum. the latter first, i found it

very confusing what espn was trying to do. it seemed like they were trying to really have it both ways. they should have been a little more declarative in terms of what their employees should or should not do. the flip side is, everyone is entitled to their personal opinion. everyone is entitled to their first amendment rights, clearly. in light of charlottesville, how i think she's feeling. so i understand. also you have a platform, you need to be very careful about that platform when you are on national television or national radio. i think she knew what she was doing. she has to suffer those consequences and/or live with that decision one way or the other. >> robert, you're expressing that complexity, you're in media, you understand that, with all these things coming together. so do you, liz. what's your reactions to the way it was handled? >> i'm in complete agreement

with what robert said. it does appear that, you know, she was in violation of espn's standard of conduct for employees. but put that aside for a second. what i find more troubling about this is the president's reaction. i worked for barack obama. and that man was subjected to the most ugly, hateful attacks you can imagine. i remember for years there was in one personality at a news network, at a media network who called the president a racist, launched a racially-tinged crusade against him to undermine his legitimacy. the president never complained, never called for that man to be fired. it turned out that guy who did all those things and said all those things about president trump was donald trump. so, you know, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. i think donald trump was someone who was fine at launching these ugly attacks at the president,

and now he should understand that it sort of comes with the territory and he should grow a little bit thicker skin and not try to get people fired for their jobs because they're critical of him. >> very well said, liz. >> robert, you saw the report here from peter alexander, this president does not apologize. he is saying this is untrue, asking for an apology. it has been well-documented by many organizations that this president does lie and does many times speak untruths. so is it that double standard that liz is talking about here that the president is asking for? >> absolutely. let me double on on what liz said. barack obama, i hate to compare two presidents because that's not fair to either president. but barack obama, who suffered so much indignities, comported himself with so much dignity and class on the world stage, i had some major policy differences with president obama, but when it came to being a thoughtful man, when it came to not letting this stuff get to him, when it came to people actually

questioning his american birth right, actually questioning his legitimacy, my skin is crawling based on all the things we had to relieve as a country towards barack obama. so, you know, it's very interesting how this president, meaning donald trump, will just lash out and will attack you when you try to attack him, but when it comes to just comporting yourself with dignity and class, i think we can all make our own judgment in terms of how he comports himself. >> liz, i want to move into this example of curt schilling who worked for espn and was fired because of comments that were politically controversial here. those critical of gjemele hill said, they say shouldn't this have happened to her. >> his comments crossed a line and veered toward -- from being political opinions to being

really overtly offensive and even a little bit more threatening in their tone. and look, i think the lesson we can all take from this is, everyone should be careful on their social media accounts. and sports and politics really don't mix. >> robert, what's the takeaway for this for example? go up 50,000 feet for me now, in the way this administration, when you see the press secretary addressing this, and the president, he said fake news, we're talking about a sports network here. >> that's the difference, no offense to espn, this is not a bona fide news network in terms of them break political policy news. the larger lesson is, when you punch donald trump, he will punch back four or five times so you have to be ready. the other thing, i tell my friends and relatives all the time, think about what you want to convey before you tweet or put something on facebook or social media, because that is

part of your reputation and people are watching, no matter who they are. >> and does this not empower jemele hill here, liz, in terms of what she does day to day, the president trying to do the opposite? >> of course. you know, it does elevate her. it does, you know, give her, you know, more stature here. but you know what, i'm not sure that's necessarily what she wants. she's on "sports center." i think she was expressing her opinion, a very strong opinion, toward the president. and, you know, she's not necessarily a political figure, i don't see her going out there and milking this. i would hope going forward that -- and let's go back to the kurt shilling thing for a second. president obama didn't call for curt schilling to be fired, his white house didn't call for him to be fired. going forward i would like to see president trump sort of stop trying to interfere with people who don't agree with him on everything, and especially, you know, when they try to voice it on social media.

that's where i think i have the biggest objection in this whole situation. >> i think we're finding that anything is possible. liz smith, robert trainem, a dynamic conversation, thank you for bringing it today on this saturday. a quick programming note before we go. coming up on tuesday, join joe, mika, and willie as they celebrate ten years of "morning joe" with a live audience from nbc's historic studio h, tuesday, 6:00 a.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. we'll be right back.

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joy reid is next. stick around for that. you have a great day. i think something's going to have to reverse here with this president's policy or it will just blow up his base. this was a straight-up promise through his campaign. >> is he this tone deaf? is he this ignorant? does he not know what got him elected? i mean, and i'm telling you, some of the staunchest trump supporters are out there and they've jumped ship. good morning. welcome back to "a.m. joy." they weren't bashing president obama. no no, no. verbally cannibalizing their own president. all because they don't like