i believe we do have casey hunt, you're on the phone with us. let's start with this breaking news that we just got. what more can you tell us about the details of that testimony, casey? >> we're just learning some of the details of how this is going to play out but we do know that the committee has wanted to talk to michael cohen for quite a while in the wake of all of the reporting about the meeting with russian lawyers at trump tower. we know that this testimony or interview is going to take place on tuesday, on capitol hill, with the senate intelligence committee. michael cohen confirming that to nbc news. why does this committee want to talk to him? michael cohen is somebody -- you can't overstate his importance and involvement with president trump's entire world. he's not somebody whose working in the white house every day now but he's somebody whose known the president for a very long time, has been very involved in all of the president's affairs

for many years. he's a very trusted aid. if you walked into trump tower, you could sometimes see cohen sitting at the starbucks on the second floor there. this is somebody who was by the president's side very much -- in some ways could often speak on his behalf. the things that he is aware of and the entanglement he will understand is very deep and broad as far as the president's business affairs' is concerned and that tells you a little bit about the direction this investigation is headed and the things they are interested in learning and there's also quite a bit of opportunity for the committee to learn a lot from michael cohen and one thing that's been in the news recently that michael cohen has touched is this question about potentially branding a building in moscow with the trump name. i think you can expect some question along those lines and i

think more broadly in the context of the investigation, the fact that they're ready to talk to michael cohen also tells you some about how far along they are. we know that the senate intelligence committee wanted to finish this investigation by the end of the year but the last i spoke to the intelligence committee chairman he was suggesting that, if they found new information it might push beyond that but he's been very emphatic in saying, we want to bring in top name officials until we've talked to everybody else underneath them to get the fullest picture that we can before we start to ask the top marquee names the tough questions. the fact that they're ready to interview michael cohen tells you the investigation is farther along. go ahead. >> let me pick up on that point that you just raised. it's a very significant one that a lot of people are probably going to look at and say, where does this advance the investigation? you mention that people like michael cohen would be considered top tier witnesses or

top tier individuals that the senate intel committee wants to talk, you laid out the case for why they would want to talk to him. but in specifics, this business deal that michael cohen purportedly e-mailed a russian adviser to president putin asking for help on the trump tower building, what does that tell us about where this investigation now stands in terms of the business affairs of president trump? >> right. so the question here -- remember, this is broadly an investigation into potential collusion or coordination between russian officials and trump officials during the campaign, but what we've learned is that as these, frankly, news reports have unfolded as the special counsel mueller's investigation has unfolded and as the committee's investigation has unfolded, they have broaden into looking at things including the business ties of the president that were unfolding, if you will, during the time that the campaign was happening

and so the incident that you're talking about where essentially michael cohen sent an e-mail and ultimately the president signed off on this letter of intent to potentially build a building in moscow that was coordinated by another person that then become a person of interest on the part of the congressional committee, it's a very tangled and expanding web. i think what everybody should think of this as, is, okay, we've moved from strictly campaign related or even white house official related into web of the trump organization, so the president's business before he became president of the united states and how the affairs of the trump organization were potentially impacting the campaign and potentially posed conflict of interests or criminal questions. so this is really explain how the president's personal finances and this is a place that has a lot of trump

associates -- it's a wider net than we originally -- than it was originally when the investigation started. >> you bring up a very good point about the fact that this testimony on tuesday would at least signal that the investigation has moved beyond just campaign workers or campaign members of the trump administration. i know that you know capitol hill very well, you probably know washington better than anyone, but how do you see this playing out in the investigations that are taking place both in the senate, the house, as well as the reaction that we could possibly expect from president trump, the white house and his surrogates and supporters on capitol hill? >> sure. so look, i think that the special counsel investigation is the primary concern for the president for members of the staff in the white house for any

potential criminality or any serious repercussions. i think that that is the top line here and the senate committee that michael cohen is going to be talking to is staying out of bob mueller's way. so keep that in mind. the senate investigation is not one that is going to determine whether there was a crime committed. it's fundamentally different than the special prosecutors investigation. now what it does center on is russian meddling in the u.s. election and it could touch on a variety of the things that the president is concerned about in the context of mueller's investigation and clearly there are some politics at work here. both sides obviously politicizing it one way or the other. the senate investigation has been over the course of the last six months less political than the house investigation for a variety of reasons and i think that underscores the importance of michael cohen talking to the senate committee, but at the

same time, you know, i think the last i spoke to the chairman richard burr about this he suggested that the senate committee will ultimately release a list of findings and they might not vote on the release of those findings. so that's a potentially new way of doing business for the senate committee. in past instances where you've had a very politically charged topic, the torcher report is one that comes to mind when they investigated enhanced interrogation techniques, they voted on putting out that report then democrats were very unhappy because it was heavily redacted, this long drawn out argument about it. when i talked to burr, the senate committee in this case it sounds like they may handle it differently and there may not be a precedent for it in that regard. he suggested there wouldn't be a committee vote. he suggested they would put out a fact finding.

so i think there are still a lot of questions about what the outcome of this investigation is going to be and what the public is going to learn about what they know. >> so let me ask you really quickly, looking ahead to tuesday, based on some of the previous reporting that has come out prior to today, michael cohen apparently sent -- his lawyer sent a letter to the intel committee trying to, i guess, prevent or perhaps restrict or perhaps even try to slow down any targeting of him or investigating of him in terms of his business affairs with the trump organization or how he carried those affairs out. let's look ahead to tuesday. what do you think we'll expect on the hill in terms of his potential cooperation? do you think there's any chance that on tuesday we may see michael cohen not cooperate or is any legal he mechanism that he has that could prevent him from disclosing information to the senate intel committee search as attorney-client privilege. >> to our knowledge this is a

voluntary situation. this is not one where -- you'll remember in michael flynn's case, there was a lot of subpoenas that went back and forth. he invoked his fifth amendment right. it seems as though he's moving along and cooperating with the committee. any time something like this happens, there are very strict often rules of engagement, so it's likely -- and we know that the committee in august expresses interest in talking to michael cohen so this will have been preceded by weeks of negotiations between the two sides, between and among them, so unless there is an agreement or rather unless the committee compels somebody to testify, then usually the ground rules are relatively well-known. we're still working on reporting -- what those ground rules are, but it says something that this is a situation where michael cohen, i'm going to go ahead and do this interview. >> all right. casey hunt live in washington,

d.c. with that breaking news. thank you very much. we'll be talking to you throughout the course of the evening but to help us now dig into this breaking news. let's bring in erin mcpike chief white house correspondent. and malcolm nance. great to have all of you with us on this busy sunday night. erin let me begin with you if i can and we'll start with this breaking news that trump attorney michael cohen will be testifying on tuesday. what do you make of this news? >> we did hear last week that obviously that he was going to testify at some point. it's new that he is going to be testifying on tuesday. i think one of the largest points here is that we keep hearing the trump administration and supporters of president trump continue to say that there is no evidence of collusion and they say that again and again, but specifically with michael cohen, you talked earlier in the hour about that e-mail that he sent to try to get to putin through a spokesman and what trump supporters will tell you,

he sent that e-mail to a generic inbox so he must not have those kinds of ties that people expect. that was just one attempt to get to putin and through the testifying that he's going to be doing on tuesday and through the rest of this investigation, it is so clear that there are so many more details to come out and we only know a small sliver of that. so as this investigation continues a lot more of that will come out, they might come out with the findings, i think that would be really important for the public to see that there's a whole lot more here and just because there's no evidence of collusion so far in the press, doesn't mean that it could exist even though we haven't gotten to it yet. >> what do you make of the fact that the testimony is scheduled to be on tuesday, the same day the president will be addressing the united nations and arguably being on the world stage is going to draw a lot of attention perhaps away from washington, d.c. although this is a very significant event? >> i don't know that there's anything you can read into it, honestly. we've seen a lot of big news

break time and time again. i think obviously the trump administration will get a lot of questions in new york, but i don't know that there's anything you can really read into that. >> stay with us for a moment. jonathan, i want to ask you as well. what is your take on the significance of this upcoming testimony and as the way casey hunt describes it we've now moved up a tier from campaign workers and those on the campaign trail to president trump's inner circle? >> i think first of all you have to look at this as the senate intelligence committee in its role now as being sort of the public arm of these investigations, even though this testimony may be behind closed doors, the senators talk, their staff talks so it works hand in glove with the mueller investigation. there are going to be several buckets of this committee is interested in. the kind of leverage russia may have had with president trump and with others in his administration or larger

operation. like the e-mails that casey was talking about and that erin was just talking about to russia trying to find out if a stalled negotiation over a trump tower in moscow could be advanced. you might look at that as financial leverage for russia. the other big bucket is this policy question of trying to work out a deal with some ukrainian politicians whereby sanctions on russia might be lifted in exchange for things. i think the larger thing here is that they're looking at all these points of potential leverage with trump and whether there's more than is in the public record. now michael cohen is a lawyer and i think lawyers generally would not like to be in the position of testifying in cases usually, they're the ones advising clients and that's -- that's potentially troubling thing for the trump operation, the question of whether the lawyers may have information or may have even acted in themselves inappropriately. >> and malcolm, you know foreign policy better than anyone. from the perspective of the leverage that jonathan was just

talking about, both in terms of financial leverage, maybe even political leverage, why is michael cohen such a critical figure in trump's circle? what information could he potentially have that no one else could have as his lawyer in that realm? >> well, as his personal lawyer he's going to have an enormous amount of information. if you liken this donald trump to a mafia don, this is the guy who knows all of the secrets. now, he may not be able to compelled to indulge the committee into revealing everything that he knows. he was a lawyer at the time and he does have privilege. but there are two points there which, you know, the previous speaker had mentioned which right now it appears the senate is going after these two points being bridges between the senior trump campaign and the kremlin, the first one being the ukrainian letter which was supposed to lift sanctions, which cohen helped draft and get

to the president and then the second one and most significant which was this letter about trump tower, this data which was supposed to have been, you know, done with the sanction of the kremlin which was going to enrich donald trump which was going to get a tower built there and a spa named after ivanka. these are critical pressure points that they can supply right now. was he acting independently or was he acting as an agent for the president? >> there are obviously multiple investigations taking place in washington, d.c. could the senate intel committee and potentially this testimony on tosco the senate intelligence committee grant him protection or immunity if he cooperates with them to shield him from the mueller investigation? >> i suppose they could but i think we've seen that the senate intelligence committee is not willing to do that for any one

who is tied to this investigation at all. they have shown that before. they showed that with flynn, obviously. i don't think we'll see that at all. >> jonathan, you expect this testimony to compare to one's given by jared kushner and don jr. how do you think this will play out in relationship to those two gentlemen? >> i think it depends on what we find out and how fast we find it out. you mention about the coincidence. it could be that the u.n. speech draws away from this testimony or it could be the opposite, that this testimony ends up drawing away from what president trump is trying to do on the international stage. i think ultimately we're looking at testimony that could be explosive depending on what the content is and if we find it out quickly but also maybe some time. the real thing to keep an eye on is the robert mueller investigation. the senate intelligence committee has a role in all of

this but it is a minor one compared to that mueller probe. >> malcolm, your perspective on the fact that this is happening on tuesday, should we be on the sceptical side and wonder why this is taking place on tuesday at the same time the president is speaking at the united nations? this is a closely watched address or should we not make much of the scheduling conflict there? >> i don't think we should make many of the scheduling conflict. this could have been just been -- could have been coordinated but most likely wasn't. it's really bad coordination because if the president's going to be addressing the united nations he's going to be on this world stage, the -- all the breaking news that we'll be coming out of that is whether his lawyer talked or not or whether he pled the fifth or didn't in a closed hearing and that itself could not only complicate the president's discussions there. we know how donald trump reacts when bad news comes out and when he feels under pressure.

i don't think that this is going to really supercede anything the president says that day. >> we will have it all covered for you on msnbc. thank you. great to have all of you here with that perspective. attacked in france, acid splashed on four boston college students. details of that attack and the suspect now taken into custody. we'll tell you about that. senate showdown, donald trump, steve bannon, the race that will put them at odds.

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strategist steve bannon. the two are on opposite sides of a senate battle in the state of alabama. bannon infuriating the republican establishment. bannon is turning into a rallying point for the alt-right adding that half of what he does is damage. his former client and friend. with me now from washington, mike rounds of south dakota. it's great to have you with us on this sunday evening. i do want to talk to you about steve bannon, clearly it seems that his desire to go to war with republicans this congress, if he thinks they don't support the president -- i'm curious to get your thoughts if you believe that steve bannon is now hurting the president? >> i can tell you that i think the republicans in washington do support the president. we may have differing points of view about how to get to the same objective, we wanted a conservative on the supreme court we've got unwith. we wanted to address health care. we're not done with it yet. we'll continue to move forward

on health care. the president wants to do tax reform. we want to do tax reform and we want to make part of that a tax cut and not just for the business community but for the average american citizen and we've all got different ideas about how to do it but we're all focused on the same thing. we're moving in the right direction just sometimes we don't move as fast as what the president would like us to do, that doesn't mean that we're not on the same wave length. >> steve bannon has been out recently saying that he was very critical of the establishment wing of the republican party, that they were trying to almost nullify the results of the election of 2016 which is to essentially say under mine president trump, i'm curious to get your thoughts about him in particular, could he become a obstacle to the president's agenda than democrats? >> naturally we'd like to have everybody working on the same focus and wave length. i will tell you that when it comes to having challenges in primaries that's nothing new. we've got folks that are conservative on the republican

side, we've got folks that are in the middle, folks that are farther to the left on the republican side. everybody's got their different point of view. we do have a big tent. steve bannon has the opportunity to express his points of view. that's part of this process. if we didn't have that going on in the republican party, we would not be as strong as what we are ultimately. the president wouldn't have a strong team as what it's going to take to get things done. republican primaries are that way. i personally think luther's done a great job in the senate. i'm supportive of him. we've all got to go through these primaries. we don't like them but that's the part of the process. >> let me ask you then about that really quickly in alabama. obviously mr. trump supporting luther strange but you have others like sarah pallin that actually are not and taking the opposite position in terms of supporting the candidate there. i'm curious to get your thoughts as to whether or not the president feels the pressure that in the midterm elections if

gop incumbents don't win, he can, you know, really see his support erode? >> the most important thing that we can do to help all of our candidates in the midterm is to get results. sometimes washington doesn't get results. america wants results. they've been very clear. that's the reason why the president was elected. he talked as a businessman about getting results. he talked about draining the swamp. we've got differing points of view about what the swamp is in washington, d.c. but i can tell you we all want to make this city work better than what it does today. we want a budget process that works. we want to get a budget that's under control. we want to get defense spending for republicans. we want to get it up so we can start rebuilding what is truly right now a defense department which is in serious trouble. when it comes to modernization and so forth. these are things that republicans agree on. how we get there, we will disagree on among ourselves. you'll have differing -- you'll

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friday acquittal of a white former st. louis police officer who shot and killed a black suspect. joining us now is nbc scott cohen just outside of st. louis in university city. scott, what are they expecting tonight? what are you seeing on the ground as of now? >> reporter: let me set the scene for you now. it is the culmination of a protest that's been going on for about an hour and a half in front of st. louis police headquarters and you can see the crowd is now lying down in the street. this is the dying. they have said as they gathered here earlier that the police don't have to come to the neighbors any more, they'll come here and die for them, save them the trip. that was sort of the thought here that it's not just the death of anthony lamar smith in 2011 and the acquittal on the friday of jason stockily, what they see as a pattern that goes back to michael brown in

ferguson several years ago. what they've been doing is really been about as peaceful as a protest can get. but they marched a couple blocks to the west, blocked an intersection for a time. chanting whose streets, our streets. if we don't get it, shut it down. they're continuing with that. again, most of the protests virtually all of the protests during the day since the verdict came out on friday morning have been peaceful and organized in this way. it's the ones at night that have gotten out of hands. for example, the one last night that you referenced in university city, peaceful protest, people started to go home about 9:30 at night and that's when the violence broke out, what police say was a core group of probably about 75, maybe 150 people. they damaged a couple of dozen store fronts and five police vehicles, ten more people arrested there but this is the message that they want to try and get out, at least the bulk of the protesters here and that's what's been going on, richard. >> all right.

scott cohen live for us just outside st. louis. thank you. overseas in france this morning an acid attack targeting four young american women from boston college, two of them are in serious condition, the other two are in shock. it happened in the southern city of marseille outside the main train station there. they were part of boston college's paris program. they were severely sprayed by an older woman with a known history of psychiatric problems. they're aware of the attack and the safety and security of u.s. citizens abroad is a top priority. turning now to the tropics and hurricane jose, the category one storm is getting stronger with maximum sustained winds of 90 miles per hour. right now jose is centered about 350 miles southeast of north carolina. the center of the storm is expected to remain offshore, given its massive size, jose will have an impact on coastal areas from the carolinas up to new england through at least wednesday and now a new threat is developing today for the

first time, hurricane battered islands in the caribbean. tropical storm maria is now hurricane maria. it has maximum sustained winds of 75 miles per hour. the hurricane will likely hit the leeward islands on monday. the hurricane irma had already hit the islands and on monday, hurricane watches are in effect for many of the islands still trying to cope with the aftermath of that including antiqua and barbuda. and following breaking news as we mentioned. president trump's lawyer michael cohen is expected to testify before the senate intelligence committee this tuesday. we'll discuss what it could mean for the congressional russia investigation coming up after the break.

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welcome back. more now on that breaking news we've been following in the russia investigation as we mention, nbc news has learned that the president's lawyer michael cohen will testify to the senate intelligence committee this tuesday. we could also see the president's eldest son testify

in public for the first time. senator dianne feinstein, the top democrat appeared to confirm the news to cnn today. she also spoke of trump jr.'s last appearance before the panel. take a listen. >> it was a five hour interview. republicans went first for an hour and then democrats questioned. i think senator grassley's intent and my intent to have him before the committee in the open and be able to ask some questions under oath. it'll be this fall. i know that for sure. >> now this as the "the wall street journal" report that had facebook has given special counsel more details on russia bought ads, joining me now national security analyst and former cia ned great to have you with us. let's tackle this latest news for the. michael cohen set to testify in front of the senate intel committee this tuesday.

how significant do you think that is? >> it's significant and certainly the next step in this investigation i think it's significant for a couple reasons. there are three key prongs to the multiple overlapping investigations into this scandal habs engulfed the trump administration. the first is in the under lying accusation of conspiracy or conlugs with the russians on the part of the campaign and later the transition team. the second is financial imappropriateties and potential money laundering and the third is obstruction of justice. i lay out those three because michael cohen as the president's personal attorney sels a business adviser and just a general counsel to then mr. trump before he became president trump would be intimately familiar with the first two prongs of that. michael cohen is a notorious figure in this steel dossier, let completely unverified document that we first learned of late last year. but he was also involved in mr. trump's business dealings that

have come under scrutiny from bob mueller the special counsel, who just last week actually added a 16th attorney to his team, an attorney who specializes in money laundering and financial improprietaries. clearly the senate on tuesday will be keen to get the attorney michael cohen's input on any knowledge he may have on the question of collusion or money laundering as it pertains to the trump empire. >> and does the fact that it now appears to be expanded to be involved individuals that just worked on the campaign to include individuals in trump's inner circle, professional circle, even family relationships, does it signal that the investigation is expanding in its scope? >> well, it certainly seems to be. this is an investigation that has taken multiple turns and we should say there are multiple investigations both the congressional investigation and the probing led by bob mueller. obviously if there were a convenient diagram there would

be a overlap. it no longer just looks at people like flynn and manafort. when jared kushner the president's son-in-law became embroiled in this earlier this year and of course when don jr. the president's son became a focus because of his conseen veening of this june 2016 meet not guilty trump tower, that's when the investigation really took a turn because the trump white house can no longer say, this is about people who worked for the campaign for a brief period of time as they said of campaign chairman paul manafort or people who are no longer affiliated with the white house in the case of michael flynn. this is really about the president's family as well as people with whom he is closest, both in terms of his personal relationships and his business relationships and that is michael cohen. >> let me ask you really quickly before i let you go. about a minute left, about facebook, they're coming under a lot of scrutiny that russians -- people associated with russia bought hundreds of thousands of

dollars of ads. what does that tell us about this investigation? should facebook do more to prevent these types of ads from being bought? >> i would actually be surprised had the russians not leveraged facebook as part of their multi-pronged effort to influence the november electorate. we know they used rt and sputnik their official propaganda arms and facebook is a platform that can reach millions of americans so when the news came out last week that some $150,000 worth of ads were purchased by the russians, it really wasn't all that surprising. i think from an investigative standpoint, what both congress and bob mueller will be looking at is whether there was any one associated with the trump campaign who helped the russians, who helped the russians critically with the objective of targeting these ads, someone who could tell the russians go after this district in florida or go after this swing district in a place like michigan or wisconsin. the other thing i would note is

that, this in some ways analogous to the challenging of finding identifying and removing yooil and other terrorist prop ghana from facebook and other social media site and it's a challenge that can't only fall to private companies like facebook, it's a challenge that must be both a public and private element to it. the government needs to work with entities like facebook and twitter to help them identify this content and to ensure it's being taken down just as quickly as is possible. >> it's one more dimension of things to watch out for. ned price live for us, thank you very much. veesing the pressure on north korea after another show of defiance. how will world leaders tackles the country's nuclear threat? at ally, we offer low-cost trades and high-yield savings. but if that's not enough, we offer innovative investing tools to prepare you for the future. looks like you hooked it. and if that's not enough, we'll help your kid prepare for the future.

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if the united states has to defend itself or defend its allies in any way, north korea will be destroyed and we all know that and none of us want that. none of us want war. >> if our diplomatic efforts fail, though, our military option will be the only one left. >> you heard it there, running out of options. the white house ratcheting up pressure on north korea as president trump prepares to address world leaders at the united nations general assembly this week. in a major show of defiance, north korea launched a missile over japan friday flying in the face of u.s. sanctions. the u.s. will not be intimidated, threatening fire and fury as tensions escalate. joining me now is david albright. great to have you with us. we've seen the cycle repeated before, sanctions and threats to bring north korea at least to the negotiating table in response, a defiant kim jong-un

continues to fire these rockets. he seems to be emboldened as the international community responds. is the economic choke hold actually doing more harm than good you think? >> no, no, i don't think at all. we don't really know what kim jong-un is trying to accomplish. information from a very senior defector would about a year and a half ago was that he was determined to take advantage of the two presidential elections to be able to develop and build the most advance nuclear weapons he could and i think he did not -- probably did not anticipate trump winning. he probably anticipated hillary and thought that there would be a window of opportunity to greatly advance his nuclear weapons program and then see what happened. i think with president trump, he's much more willing to confront north korea as your show clearly shows and he's also

done something else previous president's haven't been willing to do, his been willing to risk trade conflict with china. we don't know how it's going to end. >> let me ask you about that because you're saying you don't know how it's going to end and that's what a lot of world leaders are concerned about. we know that president trump and his south korean counterer part shared a telephone conversation sunday. i spoke with president moon of south korea, asked him how rocket man is doing, long gas lines forming in north korea. too bad. what do we expect the outcome from trump's meetings at the u.n. general assembly to be this week? >> i think probably they'll be productive on north korea. it's -- no one takes any political hits for kicking north korea and it's even more and more popular in china. north korea's incredibly

isolated and the sanctions really are just starting. there's a misnomer that somehow it's heavily sanctioned. the trouble is they haven't been applied and so there's a lot of room to start pressing. now, i would say don't insult kim jong-un. it doesn't -- i understand -- >> avoid things like rocket man, perhaps. >> i understand when mcmaster says and ambassador healey they want kim jong-un to personally hear, you mess with the united states we're going to respond. we're tired of having a gun pointed at our face in essence but insulting is not a good idea. >> let me ask you very quickly about the point you brought up risking a trade war with china over north korea. is that really a realistic option for a president that's been talking about the united states recovering economically. he wants to bring jobs into this country, is that in the best interest to have an economic war with china at this stage over north korea? >> i said trade conflict.

i didn't say war. it has to be managed carefully. china it's it's in china's interest to be responsible and to press its socialist brother to put down in disarm and so i think that's truly in china's interests. a lot of what's being expected of china is enforce your laws. china shouldn't be -- or this equipment shouldn't be going to north korea. it should enforce the sanctions. i think it's -- and china wants to be a responsible member of the international community. it's time they started to act that way. >> all right, david albright, thank you very much for your perspective this evening. >> thank you. i want to bring in our panel. republican strategist noel and chris coe fees that. noel, i want to begin with you. we have heard president trump talk about, you know -- we know he pulled out of the paris climate accords and he's talked

about ripping up the iran nuclear deal. the administration has been critical of that. but that's also caused a little bit of a rupture within the republican establishment. i'm curious to get your thoughts is that a smart decision to create that rupture in the republican party over these two foreign policy issues? >> well, we're going to find out. we'll find out when he addresses the u.n. there's been a lot of problems not only with what -- with what he's doing with his policies that have got a lot of the republicans fighting amongst themselves but a lot of the policies that he campaigned on were seeing that he's done an about face and reversed some of his decisions. i think the republican party as far as i have seen doesn't know what he's going to do. because have you ever noticed that when the white house puts out a policy something that he's endorsed, he may wake up at 3:00 a.m. and we may have a totally different ball game.

>> on domestic and foreign policy. all right. let me ask you this. he's obviously got a lot on his plate going into the fall agenda. he's throwing in like the daca situation into it. can you afford to have all of these open issues with members of his own party? as we said immigration, tax reform, health care has stalled. now you have these issues on the world stage that some in his republican party are saying, you know, it's just -- the divisions are too much to tackle at this stage. >> i think that's why you have seen him go across the aisle because the republicans can't get together on a lot of the issues. that's why you have seen him go towards pelosi and schumer to cut deals on immigration and so forth. and who's to know, maybe he'll go across the aisle once again when its comes to foreign policy. we have a lot of moving pieces and they're not coming together as one. >> let me ask you about trump at the u.n. this week. he's going there with a bit of

an american first approach. steve bannon talked about economic nationalism for america in the dealings with the world. is that wise given that the u.n. is really meant to be a global forum? >> well, it's going to play against the type, i guess. or, you know, it reinforces exactly who president trump is. he's going to essentially communicate that same message of putting america first. making america great again. how it plays on the global stage, it won't play very well. it will be -- what will be interesting is he going to highlight what the purpose here is? to which is -- which is to emphasize american leadership, cooperation, working with allies, working with other nations to address some fundamental problems or is he going to be bellicose? we don't know the answer to that. >> and when he talked about

making america first, like with the wall with mexico it hasn't translated in the way that people thought it would be, when mexico will pay for the wall and now we're trying to get congress to pay for it. do you think that president trump though the way he's been ratcheting up the rhetoric against north korea like all this talk of fire and fury is actually, you know, helping put that north korea issue on the right track to being resolved or is it the wrong approach? >> well, i think it is the right approach in terms of if you will to put pressure on north korea, to give up its nuclear weapons or to negotiate. it is wrong to come across erratic or almost child-like in some of the responses and approaches. i think it raises real serious concerns and questions amongst global leaders let alone the american people about president trump's nature. this goes to the very heart of his leadership. is he going to act presidential or not? he is unwilling to because he falls into his worst instincts. now he'll have a planned speech. he'll have a teleprompter so

he'll arguably stay on message. but it will be you know the five minutes after the speech is done, where he's tweeting, which will be the truth about what he actually believes. >> what concerns you the most going into this week on the world stage? >> north korea. i think -- you know, we have health care and tax reform, daca, but the biggest thing is north korea. because you know what? none of these matter if we're under -- if we're under war. i mean, basically this is the final step. i have never seen anything where north korea we're about to come to a head. it's always been kind of the brat in the wing, but i think right now we are actually seeing something could happen. >> you can imagine how much more the world stage would be complicated would be if the iran nuclear deal is ripped up. one more issue that would fuel the flames in the region. >> absolutely. >> great to have you both with us. thank you. well, at the top of the hour, michael cohen, long term attorney for president trump, will testify been the intel community on tuesday.

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welcome back, everyone. breaking news this hour, nbc news has learned president trump's attorney michael cohen will testify before the senate intelligence committee on tuesday. this comes as the russia investigation intensifies. the news comes as the president arrives in new york city ahead of his first u.n. general assembly. it will prove to be a major test for the president as the north korea threat takes center stage. nikki haley spoke about what the future may hold for dealing with kim jong un if all else fails. >> i think that the fire and fury while he said this is what we can do to north korea, we wanted to be responsible and go through all diplomatic means to get their attention first. if that doesn't work, general mattis will take care of it. >> and the city of st. louis on

edge as frustration grows following a nonguilty verdict in the shooting death of lack driver by a -- black driver by a white police officer. the city braces for a third night of protesters. president trump's long term lawyer michael cohen telling nbc news he'll testify before the senate intelligence committee on tuesday. let's bring in nbc nbc's monica alba with the very latest. what do we know about the scheduled testimony so far and what we can expect on tuesday? >> hi, ayman. well, the new development coming in of course as the president is now in new york city, trying to focus on the u.n. general assembly but the headlines about the russia probe will be a part of the conversation on tuesday when he is expected to make the big speech. but what we know about michael cohen is that he is telling nbc news he will be testifying before the senate intel