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good morning. welcome to "politics nation." on the show today, taking a knee during the national anthem now even president trump is fueling the fire. >> when somebody disrespects our flag, get that sovn of a. [ beep ] off the field right now. he's fired! >> we'll talk about the dark racial sentiment in president trump's criticism of the nfl and
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the nba. but high schoolers and even third graders are following the nfl players like colin kaepernick and michael bennett. and later, senator cory booker gained prominence as america's most hands on big city mayor. now the democrat from new jersey is working hard to become a hero to millions fighting the trump agenda. here is your thoughts on health care, american race relations, and whether or not he's running for president. but first, only a year after then candidate donald trump asked african-americans what they had to lose by voting for him, we now know there's plenty at stake under his presidency. it's against this backdrop that the congressional black caucus
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met this week for the first legislative conference of the trump era. joining me is cbc member and congressman gregory meeks, democrat of new york. and jason johnson, politics editor of the root and professor at morgan state university. congressman meeks, you and i go way back. we even took a knee when there was a police killing in new york in '99 and were arrested together with the former mayor standing up to mr. trump's friend rudy giuliani. now we see people taking knees in a nonviolent protest asking america to deal with racial inequality and the president calls them sobs. calls them mothers a name. now this is a president that said they would fine people among neonazis because people
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sobs for nonviolent protests calling attention to racial disparities. how does the congress, the democrats in the congress, the black caucus respond to that? i mean i think you should take a knee at the next state of the union address or walk out like he said to walk out on the players. i mean, how do you respond to this and what are you going do about it? >> you know, rev, there is great dialogue, number one. i, for one, going to be boycotting the white house, that's for sure. i think all good will people, black, white, red, yellow, brown, this president is an absolute disgrace for what this country is and all that it has gained. and every time he opens his mouth you really understand when he says he wants to make america go back to where america was. because america has been made great because of protests like from dr. martin luther king jr. like from athletes like ali.
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then he changed his name and people called him disrespectful to kareem abdul-jabbar. we cannot go back to those times. we cannot be silent. i think it's incumbent upon members of congress and the congressional black caucus to make sure that our voices are loud and clear. that we continue to do what we have been doing in promoting legislation that will be beneficial to all americans. but, you know, taking care of those who are african-americans and those who have been victimized by police brutality and others. and, yes, we'll be talking about strategies that we will undertake when we get back into session. >> no. i think there has to be a dramatic -- we're doing it as we've done not only in the past but in the recent future. i mean in recent present rather. like around the trayvon martin case and others. because really we're calling for attention on the issues. and what is so to me so
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distracting is the president ought to be addressing the issues of inequality rather than distracting us with name calling. deal with what they're protesting about, mr. president. and that's why i said the talkous and othecaucus and others should take a knee and we should force them to deal with the educational inequality and inequality in the criminal justice system congressman meeks, not just to call people names or their mother's names. deal with your policies. >> i agree with you. i don't know if this president has the intelligence to deal with it. he is clearly not put people around. look at the people he put in for secretary of education who doesn't understand education. climate change is out. i don't know if we have the first incompetent president of my time, that's for sure, and the only one that i know. i don't know if he's competent enough to deal with those
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issues. when i look at how he's -- what he said at the u.n. and on the world stage and as i listen to world leaders around, there is a question of his competency. and if this was any other country, what we should be calling for is a recall election in which the american people and i think the majority of american people who did not vote for him in the first place, if we were in a parliamentary procedure, we would be calling for a call vote right now so we can get rid of the president and have another election and particularly on top of the fact that when we keep digging into these investigations and showing his connection to russia and others that was involved in this, there should be a recall election. and so i think that, yes, i think there's got to be something to demonstrate to the world that we're'going to be silent and just sit back and that we will take action. and i would hope it's not just african-americans. >> right. >> it's all good people should be more than just african-americans. this is not an after condition american issue. this is an issue of people gf will and people who love this
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country to stand up for. >> now, jason, i think that's critical that this is not just african-americans that ought to be standing up. it should be people of all races. it should be whites, blacks, and i think we've tried to demonstrate that from the '60s and the civil rights movement of that era all the way to recent thousand ministers march where it ended up 5,000 showing collective here. but also keeping the focus not on the protests but on what we're protesting for. because what i keep emphasizing is let's not let those that are suffering get lost in the drama between stars and the president. there are people actually suffering. that ought to be the priority and that's what we're taking a knee to dramatize. >> well, yeah. i agree. and onest things black, white, you know whatever, hispanic, latino, asian this is important.
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remember the man lost the popular vote. like the majority of people. and that was a multicultural coalition that voted for hillary clinton that we don't really want this man who is a white supremacist who has a history after buzing women. most people did not want him to be president of the united states. i think this is critical. when it comes to what we all think is probably going to end up happening today, when hundreds and i just saw a tweet this morning that the entire offensive line of the soon to be vegas raiders, the oakland raid serz going to take a knee, you're going have people taking knees all throughout. keet to this like marches and anything else is what happens next? every single one of the guys going say let's register to vote. are all of the players, remember, there are elections in new jersey. there's elections in virginia this year. as long as this activism manifests itself and changes on the ground. a lot of the players give money. that's great. too many people don't do. that but if it turns into voting this fall, that is a kind of long term change we want to see. >> other than that, it just
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becomes symbol and we need the victims which are millions of the people talking about millions. congressman, quickly whashgsz going -- quickly, what's going to happen with health care? does john mccain saying he's not going to support it, does it kill it? what are you hearing from the upper chamber? >> i'm hearing the votes are not there. that as john mccain maze his decision and the other two senators. and, you know, september is the deadline. all good americans look and talk and they support those who are voting no because they are disastrous to end the affordable care act. >> all right. thank you, congressman greg meeks and jason johnson.
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it's no stretch to call cory booker one of the faces of the democratic party's future. and his legislative priorities play like a road map for where the party is headed. he co-signed senator bernie sanders proposed medicare for all legislation. he vowed to help daca recipients fight deportation and he's
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leading the foupush to remove statues of confederate leaders from the u.s. capitol. plus, he wants and overhaulst criminal justice system. i got to speak with senator booker this week about almost all of this starting with the democrats' fight against another republican push to overhaul the country's health care system. >> thank you for being us with, senator. >> it's always good to be with you, man, whether it is seeing new public or private. thank you for your voice. >> thank you. let me go to a concern that is really touching many, many probably most americans and that is the health care situation. we see the republicans have come with a new proposal. we see that senator sanders has raised the single pair plan that's being debated.
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some feel it's ill timed. where are you in term of predicting where this health care vote will go? will the senate get 50 votes? is it the wrong time for the senate from a democratic leader perspective to be debating single pair what gives a foil to senator graham? >> look, i think the time is always right to talk about a vision for the future. there is no harm in that. but everybody here, every member of the democratic caucus knows that right now what we need to be focused on is protecting and defending o fordable care act. and actually -- affordable care act and working in a bipartisan manner to make it better which we had going on. senators alexander, republican senator as well as senator patty murray, a democrat, had the right process going. they were having hearings and inviting in experts, doctors, nurses. and then you have graham casting this newest version of trump care being brought forward. the bipartisan effort stopped and now they're threatening of
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all the iterations this is actually the worst. and you're seeing -- >> what makes it worse, senator? we keep hearing that. what makes it worse? they're saying we're going to cover people with pre-existing conditions. what makes this worse? >> well, a lie is a lie is a lie. we know that there are not going to cover pre-existing conditions when they do two things, one is to tell the states that they can opt out of it. and then also when you have the mandate and it means that insurance companies will have a difficult time affording to offer the kind of insurance plans that we want to see out there. so they're going to be petitioning states for relaxation of those plans. that provide essential benefits for everything from maternity care all the way to a parody between mental health and physical health. this is a lie what they're
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saying. it is also worse because it's a complete changing of a 52-year program. it's no the just rolling back at fordable care act. it's actually changing medicaid as we know it. so this is the time. reverend, i love -- this is sunday. folks are going out there and to pray and this is a moral moment for ?""""""""? lkj our country. we have to pray that this thing fails. but this is the moment right now that all of us have to be taking actions to make sure this crass cruel bill that will hurt all of america especially denying tens of millions of people insurance coverage or giving them junk covera coverage, we have to work really hard this week. don't sit on the sidelines. this is not a spectator sport. be one of the people that is throughout fighting for the prevention of this plan passing. >> senator booker, you are preaching this morning. you sound like your minister
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david jefferson. i want to get to daca. but before i do, since you started talking about faith and preaching, it reminds me of the ministers march that reverend jefferson and others helped me organize a few weeks ago and there is the moral question. it was in light of the continued problems that we see around racial justice, charlottesville coming out of that and the whole situation with st. louis that we're still reacting to. at this point, we saw former fbi director comey went to howard and received the less than enthusiastic reaction. how do we deal with the continued fight for equality and fairness in terms of the criminal justice system? and how do we deal with race relations, period? because you have pointed out and have been on the ground doing some things around environmental
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bias and environmental racism. how do we deal with all of these issues and how do we deal with this in this era of donald trump who seems in in many ways to trf anything further divide and polarize? >> first of all, i'm tired of people who feel somewhat inhibited by talking about these issues because of republican claims of identity politics and they're talking about identity politics. what identity politics is what donald trump has been doing from the beginning of his campaign when he made his campaign so much focused on muslims and mexicans and using dog whistles, that's identity politics. but pointing out that we are not living consistently with the values that we all share, the ideals of liberty and justice for all or what it says on the supreme court, equal justice under the law, and so to ignore the gravity of america we live in, the biggest cancer on the soul of our country is that we have a criminal justice system
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that is so deeply biassed against the poor, against the sick, and against people of color. there's no difference, reverend. you know this. there is no difference in america in drug usage or drug selling between african-americans and whites. look, i went to stanford university, a whole lot of drug use going on. there a whole lot of drug reigns so people can get their pot or ecstasy or aderol. but the targeting of folks, african-americans are almost four times more likely about 3.7 to be exact, to be arrested for these crimes. and this hasn't just been dis o disproportionate arrests, we increased by 800% since 1980. 800 increase in the prison population. you have literally generations of people being ground into the criminal justice system, overwhelmingly for nonviolent drug offenses and there are more african-americans because of the disproportionate incarceration, there are more african-americans
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under criminal than the slaves. it affects us all. number one, hundreds of billions of dollars. you and i live in the new jersey-new york area. bridges crumbling, tunnels crumbling. but we managed from the time i was in law school and mayor of new jersey to build a new prison every ten days. investing in that infrastructure to the disregard of others. understand, a study came out showing if america had incarceration rates at the same of our industrial peers, we're way out of whack with our industrial peers. one out of every three incarcerated women on the planet earth. if we had incarceration as our industrial peers with, he would have overall in this country 20% less poverty. why? because when we have somebody who is 17 or older arrested and a felony charge for doing things that two of the last three presidents admitted publicly to do, when we arrest that kid and he has to cop to a felony drug possession or possession with attempt to sell and for the rest
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of their lives they can't get a pell grant. they can't get business licenses. they are locked in an economic prison where they have very few ongss availab on options available to them. finally, it affects our economic rights and our national well-being, it affects communities. but you also have to know that it also affects our politics. in florida right now, as an other states, they designed something called felony disenfranchisement fuchlt get that felony charge for doing things that congress people do, if you get caught like people in the universities might not but you're in a community where this -- the drug crisis is targeted on you, you lose your voting rights. they literally had in discussions in state legislatures conversations about how do we disenfranchise african-americans when they break the laudz thashgs done voting. in floefr right now the swing state of swing states, one in every five black people in that state cannot vote because of felony disenfranchisement. so you have taken tens and tens
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of thousands of people that can determine the outcome of elections and because they did things that congress people have done, college kids have done without any remorse and without being captured, you now taken away their political power. >> all right. and that changes the way elections go. let me ask you this because i'm running out of time. you and i convened this week at the congressional black caucus a whole forum on discrimination, inequality and asset management, pension funds and other things, taxpayers money. explain why you are so passionate about this and why americans ought to be concerned about it. >> well, again, it's our collective values in america. equal access. equal opportunity. and here you have pension funds that create billions of dollars of wealth all around this country. and the people that they're picking to manage those funds are predominantly big managers
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and white firms. hey, i have to say, i want the best returns on my money. i don't care who gets it. but when you have everybody from the knight foundation to barclay's bank itself doing an analysis of pension managers and looking at minority and women run firms and concluding that in their analysis that these minority run firms and women run firms are getting much better returns than the people that these hedge funds -- excuse me, the pension funds are choosing. think about this. who pays into the pension funds? here at the federal government where we have billions of dollars under management, it's a diverse group of people that are paying into it. some unions have pension funds that are being paid into predominantly by minorities and women. but yet they're not choosing managers that reflect that diversity or the managers that get the best returns. this is a patent example of exclusion of opportunity and something that we need to change and shine a light. to i'm shocked that when i came down here and just simply asked
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the question from red states like texas to purple states like ohio to new york state itself. they have emerging manager funds 5% to 10%st funds are managed by minorities and women. they're getting incredible returns. the federal government in their hundreds of billions of dollars of funds creating multimillionaires, creating incredible wealth. are any of them managed by minority or women firms snt answer i got was zero. none. >> well, we're going to stay on that and certainly i'm working with you and other groups are going to be on that. i'm out of time. going have to have you come back. i want to talk to you about environmental racism as well as daca. but we're out of time. we're going to hold you to coming back in the near future. one quick question. are you going run for president in 2020? >> listen, man, these days i feel like i'm running from the president not for the presidency. i have to focus on what new jersey elect noed do. that is three years away. i'll be best senator i can be and not be afraid to call out injustice when i see it no
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matter what happens. so i am where i am right now. let's talk about the future in years to come. >> all right. good luck. i had to take a try. thank you, senator cory booker. >> thank you, rev. thank you. my thanks again to new jersey senator cory booker. up next, kneeling during the national anthem and why president trump made the race problems so much worse. we'll be right back. what is that? it's you! it's me?
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i want to talk to you about a word i heard the other day, a word used to disparage women for centuries. and the start of a mini schoolyard fight when applied to someone's mother. it's a word i heard before but never expected to hear from a sitting president at a public event. as you know, president trump
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speaking in huntsville, alabama friday night said this regarding the on going protests of nfl players sparked last year by still unemployed nfl quarterback colin kaepernick. >> wouldn't you tlof see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field right now? out. he's fired. when people like yourselves turn on television and you see those people taking the knee when they're playing our great national anthem. >> so there's the obvious. our president who was rightfully dragged for his morally ambiguous response to charlottesville's riots last month was more critical of peaceful protesters than of white supremacists that injured dozens and allegedly took a young woman's life.
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using the peaceful protest of kaepernick, fellow nfl lightning road michael bennett and others to whip up his base in a deep southern city that like charlottesville is wrestling with his own confederate past. the president once again proved that he is either completely ignorant of racial optics or more likely simply does not care. he's willing to throw-in not a little bit of ma serious bodily injury nis tick language to drive the point home. he said p 70% of the nfl players are african-american and thus most of those following mr. kaepernick's lead mr. trump is literally calling dozens of black men's mothers out of their name. as a black man from brooklyn, i can tell you that never ends well. nfl commissioner roger goodell,
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guardian of what even the kaepernick era is notoriously a political institution responded with a statement saturday saying "divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the nfl, our great game and all of our players." it turns out that the president had some disrespect to share with the nba too. tweeting saturday morning that because superstar stephen curry and his golden state warriors team were on defense about a post championship white house photo op, their invitation is withdrawn. apparently they got the message because on saturday they put out a statement accepting the president's disinvitation. they were polite about it. slightly less cordial was nba icon lebron james who had his on
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court rivals back tweeting president trump, you bum. go to the white house, going to the white house was a great honor until you showed up. president trump meet king james who brought some company to a social media beatdown. fellow nba star chris paul told the president to "stay in your lane." espn commentator jemele hill fresh from her own verbal sparring match with president trump last week got a dig in, co-signing a tweet from nfl run back will he shawn mccoy who had profanity of his own for trump. as for me, well, i've just been wondering if president trump is picturing only adult athletes being politically silenced. only their mothers being inpuned with a word i can not and will not repeat here.
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because as we have seen this month, youth athletes of color as young as 8 years old are taking their own cues from kaepernick and company asking their own questions about a president that sees fine people among white supremacists but likens the mothers of grown voting tax paying athletes to dogs. would you refer to them as you refer to their idols, mr. president? i've been heartened, however, by one nfl mother who went back as only a mother can. tweeting, "i guess that makes me a proud blank." yep, you got it. her name, teresa kaepernick. more on this in a moment. and li. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill.
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the week in sports was politically charged even before the president insulted the nation's most prominent athletes. hip hop institution jay z has reportedly turned down the nfl's offer to perform at the 2018 super bowl halftime show. this after he dedicated a performance to colin kaepernick at a concert here in new york last week. and at the global citizens festival in new york last night, legendary musician stevie wonder took not one but two knees in his words for our planet, our future, and the leaders of our world. joining me now is jason reid, a senior nfl writer for espn.com's "the undefeated" and craig
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hodges, former nba champion with the chicago bulls and author of the book "long shot." craig, it is a real question that i have in my head when the president now come out saying people shouldn't go to the games until they stop disrespecting the flag. so is he now trying to one up the boycott many of us have said don't go to the games until kaepernick is reinstated? now if he tells people don't go to the game, people won't know whether the numbers are down because the president has called on people not to go whether someone was in the civil rights community. let me show you this tweet he just recently put up encouraging people to -- he put up a few minutes ago today telling people don't go to the game. it says "if nfl fans refuse to
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go to games until players stop disrespecting our flag & country, you'll see change take place fast. fire or suspend." so he is trying to kind of front end or interfere with those that are boycotting on behalf of kaepernick? >> well, first of all, reverend al, i want to thank god for giving us the opportunity to wake up this morning and speak on behalf of our people. and honestly speaking, when i look at where we are right now, it's beyond us getting justice in america. it's absolutely time for the congressional black caucus to call for human rights violations that have occurred past and previously it's a civil rights issue in the context of what they will gain employment. and when i think about his whthg
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is make america great again. now we see that 1817 is more likely when he's thinking about america being great as opposed to us kneeling on behalf of righteousness and justice. he wants us to be kneeling in the cotton fields again. it's a different day. we're mindful, we have to stand up and battle this thing. it is back and forth and no, it's about making moves like i'm talking about go. to the world court. reach out side of the nation with help from brazil, russia and china, yand, south africa, the bricks nation that's may invest in black people. because right now it's a standard that he has set where he is trying to set up race war and it's ugly, man. and then to hear him just to go off an black women and women should be outraged all over the planet earth. >> and most derogatory way.
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>> come on. >> let me bring jason in on this. because i think when we look at this and that's why i was raised by a single mother. many of these mothers raised their sons against great odds. never happened back when there was a head wind, had to come up in communities that didn't get a fair share. some of them single mothers, some of them struggle with husbands and got their sons into pro basketball, pro football. and you're going to call them bs? the outrage of that is something that hits me deep down inside. i was raised by a single mother. >> same. >> by the preside. >> was that for me? >> yes. >> i can tell you based on talking to coaches last night, talking to players, talking to
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front office people that that is one of the comments among many that have set players off. and based on reporting, when that comment was made. the text lines were lining up in the league. it created a sense of anger. i don't know if it's going to dissipate any time soon. when you hear what was said and when players are thinking wait a minute, he's talking about me, he's talking about my friends. he's talking about my mom or my friend's mom who these people who are participating in the movement, like i said, there was a lot of anger on friday night. there was a lot of anger yesterday. and it's going to be very interesting to see because of those comments how nfl players respond today, rev. >> and how people are going to respond. i know that the anniversary of the million woman march is next saturday and there's a garthing
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in washington. pim r wom women are responding. i think craig as you say, the appeal around the world i'm going later today to an island in south africa and they raised the issue about south africa. how the world is looking at the united states is of concern. >> no question about it. i think, you know, brother jason speaks of anger. i think we have to make our anger -- turn our anger into action. it has to be able to boy co. let's look at the banks. let's look at the economic engines that drive white supremacy racism. let's see where we can hit them in the pocket and in terms of when you talk to the sisters at the women's march and when you go to ire land, let them know that, you know, it's a group of black people here that are willing to work and we've been willing to work. it's just a matter of now just seeing that president has lost control and i think we have to realize that part of our
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constitutional, you know, my dad who i just buried this week was a korean war veteran. so when you talk about someone disrespecting the flag, i'm insulted by it, man. my dad fought just as hard as any white cat in this nation. we should be afforded the same opportunities. he's not calling their mother's bs. i take it personally. we have to turn that personal anger into action and energy. >> absolutely. thank you so much, jason reid and craig hodges. thank you. i want you on again. up next, black money matters. the impacts of a $20 million deposit can make in the lives of countless people in the heart of chicago. ♪
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and we make much more than our name suggests. we're an organic tea company. a premium juice company. we've got drinks for long days. for birthdays. for turning over new leaves. and all of our products rely on the same thing we all do... clean water. which is why we have john leading our efforts to replenish every drop of water we use. we believe our business thrives when our communities thrive. which is just one of the reasons we help make college a reality for thousands of students. today, companies need to do more. so john and willie are trying to do just that. thank you for listening. we're listening too. the history of black owned banks go back to the civil war when newly freed slaves founded they needed a place to deposit
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their now freely earned wages. dozen was spring up in the next century but at this present moment, only 23 are still operating nationwide. a 51% decline since 2001. made worse by the 2009 financial crisis and the ensuing recession. in the heavily black city of chicago, only one illinois service federal savings & loan association is still in business. but even it has come perilousy close to shutting its doors. enter chicago treasurer kurt summers who recently infused $20 million in city funds into illinois service. he cites the endo youment as an investment in chicago's financially underserved communities. he joins me now. welcome city of chicago
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treasurer kurt summers. tell me why this is important and what will it mean to the people in chicago and underserved communities? >> first of all, thank you for having me, reverend. this was important because chicago and especially communities on the south on the west sides have gone without for so long. and they've been areas where we've seen diinvestment. decade after decade after decade. i grew up on the south side of chicago, three blocks from isf, where we had the announcement on monday. if you look at that community, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, looks the same as today. these are neighborhoods, as you know, that have struggled with poverty, housing, lack of investment, and we can't expect that to change in we don't invest our funds in our own community. >> let necessity get this straight because i don't have a lot of time. we're talking about depositing
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funds of taxpayers, and in many cities like chicago, a significant amount of the taxpayers, if not in some cities the majority, are black, are people of color, whose banks don't get the deposits of their money so they don't, therefore, go and get the bank loans, red lining, and other things -- business loans that are denied. so people take taxpayer money. many of those taxpayers from our communities, and invest them in other communities and tell us, why don't you do something to help yourself. >> that's 100% correct. chicago has nearly a million black people and one black bank. we have a $7 billion budget and we're talking about a $20 million investment. this is your money, the people of chicago or -- a large population, and it deserves to
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be reinvested in your neighborhood, your community. i'm having conversation the entire week. been out here at the cbc. this is really a call around the country for states and cityings to reinvest people's dollars in their own community. it's their money. >> yeah. >> the psych of of disinvestment won't change unless we put our money back in our institutions. >> we're going to keep on this and we're going to move this around the country to do what you did, curt summers, thank you. up next, my final thoughts. with hydrogenated oil...
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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next sunday. alex witt picks it up from here. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. congratulations on the james joyce award. that's awesome. >> i'm excited about it. and then onto the ss music festival in south africa. all in four days. >> safe travels. >> for all of you you, a very good morning. i'm alex witt. it's 9:00 in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west. here's what's happening. >> it's surreal, to be honest. just -- don't -- i
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