breaking news out of tennessee. we're keeping on top of of that here on msnbc. a mass shooting taking place in a church about 15 minutes utes si outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman.ut outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman.te outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman.es outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman.s outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman. outside of nashville. one woman is dead, seven others wounded including the gunman. two are in critical condition. members of the burnett channpel congregation designing what they saw and heard as they were being let out. take a listen. >> the whole thing start at the end of the service. like everybody was greeting the preacher to go home. it was at the last pew. >> and what did you see? >> the guy came from the right side of the church and he was just shooting. he was just shooting.

he came right to the middle and shoot more. >> could you see his face? >> he had a mask. >> and that witness also saying he she works with the v.a., she had blood stains on her dress. pete williams, what fr yoyour s what are you hearing? >> reporter: according to investigators, a 26-year-old man from rutherford county, tennessee, which is not far from nashville, drove to the church parking lot just as the church was letting out for the day, the 10:00 service ending at about 11:30, got out of his suv with the engine still running, shot a woman who was coming out of the kurn church, she was killed. and then he went inside and continued to fire. he was confronted by a church usher and according to the police, if it had not been for that usher, things could have been much worse.

the police say the usher had a struggle with the gunman, that the gunman beat the usher with his pistol and during the struggle, the gunman shot himself in the left chest. that ended the shooting.usher r car, he had a permit to carry a weapon. enbroug he brought his own gun back in and kept an eye on the gunman white waitihile waiting for pol. obviously it could have been far worse, but still a shock to people in the neighborhood. >> these people watch me and my family and they were there during my -- yeah. loved them all. it's very sad day for everybody. >> reporter: police are questioning the gun man and also

talking to the victims who are in the hospital trying to get a better picture of how it happened inside. but it does appear the gunman's injuries are nonlife-threaten g nonlife-threatening. so undoubtedly charges will be filed. they have said he was a african-american man but have not said anything about a motive. people inside the church according to witnesses war mere mixture of people, so not predominant race or ethnic group inside the church. nonetheless the police say they know the motive, but they haven't been public with it yet. federal people are helping with the police, but this is basically at this point a police investigation and the police have promised to release more information about the gunman and why they think this happened in the coming hours. >> pete, thank you so much. very latest gdata for from us pete williams.

i want to bring in jim cavanaugh former atf special agent in charge and msnbc analyst. there we have it from pete, the latest pieces of information, he was 26, we have an understanding of his background. but this is a church, a neighborhood that is quite diverse and parishioners as well. about 60 of them according to the eyewitness also reflect that community. >> right. and look at the targeting here. we always look at the target to try to discern motive. we look at the purpose, the planning. so you have a very deliberate act here. the guy coming to the church, when the services just finishing, he has a mask, he's armed. didn't sound like an ad hoc robbery or anything. sounds like a guy who is bent on killing members of this congregation. and it's a very diverse area. so would is the motive behind the shooting? revenge, is he trying to get

back at somebody there, did somebody at that church done him wrong? why is this the target of his murder spree on this sunday morning. so that is what bureau fee ded e detectives will try to find out. search his car, home, computers and discern what the motive is and then look back in the months before at his planning or threats or pre-offense behavior as we call it. >> and we understand he had the plafr mask. does that tell you anything about the suspect here wearing a mask, not wanting to be recognized or known? >> tells me he just might want to get away. a guy bent on murder and suicide doesn't care if you see him, but a guy with a mask often wants to get away. it's not definitive, but it could be that he wanted to commit mass murder, this is what this guy was about, was mass murder despite he didn't achieve

that gone. one person dead unfortunately. but he might have wanted to escape. and but for the usher who confronted him and got his own handgun, but for him, it's possible a masked gunman could have skaescaped and then we'd b talking about all these people shot, one deaded a a gunman at large. so he was a hero. >> jim cavanaugh, thank you so much. if another news briefing happen, we'll get right back to you. we're also watching on this sunday the other breaking story, it's this, all across the country in red states, the nfl plays games. every other sunday would be the seam except not this one. we're seeing many defy and players across the country here

standing up against what president trump has said when those who decided to take a knee during games. and today what we see if we take a look here from seattle, this is what has happened. ♪ does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ >> and you will notice here seahawks not there. in a statement that they released, they tweeted right before the beginning of the game, they said as a team we have decided that we will not anticipate during the national an them. and they said we will not stand for the injustices. we unite to oppose those that would deny our most basic freedoms.

and you saw them not being there, staying in the locker room. this following players across the country remaining defy and in other places against the president's statements. many athletes taking a knee as the games began before the games began. and some found other ways to express themselves from the patriots joining arms in solidarity as you see here to the steelers choosing to stay in the locker room as the nags tio anthem played out. this began when the president launched an attack against players. #take a knee is now trending this hour. let's go to morgan radford in new jersey. and there also a game kicking off and now about to finish in the fourth quarter, right? >> reporter: they just finished. people are filing out behind me. but interestingly, this has really been a domino effect.

so we have seen this kind of backlash grow throughout the day. it started in the first game of the day in london and we saw players on the field taking a knee along with the owners of the jaguars linking arm and arm. and then right here, we saw the acting owner actually got on the field with a similar thing. but jets is an interesting case because alternatively the actual owner of the jets works for president trump as an ambassador. so you can see kind of the tension playing out in this team specifically. but also that is kind of the type of tension and discussion we're seeing now happen across the country. for example, fans we spoke to today some of them said, hey, look, i support these nfl people who are protesting because frankly, it is their right and what they are standing for is equality, inclusion and diversity. other people said no, i don't agree and i stand with the president and they said this isn't the time, place or

platform for that type of protest. but take a listen to one fan i spoke on to today. >> i think the sports players, the nfl, nba and major league baseball players are completely valley dated u validated and all president trump is doing is validated everything that the players have been doing. >> what do you mean validate something. >> there is inequality in this country. it's not a protest against the military, it's a protest about inequality. >> reporter: and richard, as a reporter, isaiah been really fascinating to watch the speed of this movement, but also too watch to watch it grow. it's expanded to the nba and major league baseball. and of course the mega super stars like steph curry, lebron james saying we have a right to our own free expression. >> very interesting conversation you lad there.

and understanding from a jets fan there in terms of that distinction that so many who have been critical of the president's statements what this difference is. so thank you so much morgan radford there in east rutter forward. appreciate that. i want to bring in our social issues columnist, karen phillips, professor rayshan ray and also sahill kapor. as you were listening to the reporting, that fan delineating what dropping a knee means, standing for equality. this has black lives have been lost is what cappkaepernick wan to stand for, but the president saying this is about standing up for those who fought for the flag. in other flating what this whol process has been about.

>> that is the thing about this whole situation is that everyone has gotten caught up in would is sta who standing and who is 124is nn we should be focusing on why they are protesting in the first place and that is police brutality. and this is getting lost.are pr place and that is police brutality. and this is getting lost. and that is the most frustrating thing. we're looking at other things instead of the point of why all of this is happening. we need to get back focused on that. >> and the flag stands for so many different things to so many different people. and in this particular situation, colin kaepernick is not saying i am against military service, i am against what the flag stands for, i am against the song. dropping a knee is saying the down has ended on ray shcial

equality and we need to get moving. >> without a doubt. research shows police brutality. and african-americans represent 42% of individuals killed by the police who are not attacking nor who has a weapon at the time that they are killed. so we have to reorient the narrative. this is about the fact that black lives matter. this is the fact that football players, baseball player, basketball players, they are black and brown men and unfortunately, it didn't matter if you are flew it or less affluent, you might be profiled and it can turn deadly. >> when we look at this, the issue is also political. this is the president of the united states. he practice these statements using the "b" word there in alabama.

this as he is taking what has been called unconventional support for a candidate there in the race for the republican seat. but he's finding that potentially he may not have backed the right person. he also has health care now being pushed forward. gram kham/cassidy also not look good. is this a political redirection to regrekt teredirect the narra? >> since that alabama rally, the president this weekend has tweeted or he retweeted at least 11 times about the nfl, the nba and the nags ap tional anthem protests. it is important to delineate that this is not a froes against the anthem or the flag, this is about people who think the country is not living up to those ideals. the president certainly knows that most of the country in polls thative of kaepernick's

protest. and now i think we'll have a conversation about this. president trump and race relations and two of the favorite sports will force the conversation. and you have in the nba and nfl seven out of ten players are african-american. so it's not a tenable proposition for these teams to simply ignore what the president is saying. >> nfl owners donated as you might have watched some $7.2 million to president trump's inauguration in january. there are six owners that supported the president trump, but they have they have lmg un forgely condemned his attack on play eve players including bob kraft. are you surprised that they are saying we don't think you have it right here, sir? >> no, and that has been the funny thing to watch are these releases that have come on

twitter and social media the last 24 to 36 hours from these nfl owners. at least seven of them gave money to trump when he was running for office. but it's not surprising to me to see them come out and lock arms in protest and release these statements when potential money can be affected. when you when colin kaepernick was trying to get a job, no one wanted to release a statement and say why they didn't want to sign him or give him a job. but when the effect can come to their pocketbooks, then now we're seeing all this unity and unification and isaiah interesting to sit's interesting to see all of this happening when the threat of money comes up. >> so we'll have to's wheth see

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at least one more republican senator is a no vote on the latest repeal bill. ted cruz telling a texas audience just this morning he and one more lawmaker are ready to block the graham/cassidy bill, which could again deny the

gop the chance to fulfill a promise years in the making. >> last week they took our edits and we said if they took our edits, we're a yes. they took it and then removed them. so look, right now, they don't have my vote and i don't think they have mike lee's either. >> with us now rick tyler, also andy slavit, and also atema o'mara. a greaeat panel. rick tyler, is this dead? >> yeah, it's been dead for a long time. i don't know why we're revisiting it again. but obviously rand paul is a no. john mccain made it very clear he's upset with the process. and if it ever comes back, it will come back a greer now which is the way they should have started it. so we have obamacare.

you can fix obamacare, but we have it, it's not going away. >> because it is effectively dead. when we look at this, andy, you ran medicare, medicaid, also the affordable care act for the obama white house. this latest plan of block grants, the idea that certain states who supported obamacare will now get less, and those who did not support obamacare will be getting more, would this even work? >> this is a really radical plan. as you say, it would cut dramatically the funds that go to states. it would sharply curtail medicaid which is the program that cares for kids, people with dsz a disabilities, lo disabilities, seniors. and so this is a radical plan, i think that is why it is starting to lose ground. but i would just warn everyone we should try to distinguish

between negotiating publicly and being actually against a bill. and with respect to everybody here, people are still leaving themselves room as new language comes on out. so i think it's important to understand that until we get to september 30th, i think in thing is still with some laugh life n it. >> so democrats should not celebrate? >> yeah, dems should nocrats sh celebrate. we had wanted to put together a bill with fixes. and all of a sudden lamar alexander says conditions work with democrats so this effort coming back up again. it just proves that we have to stay on it until september 30th and if this bill was to pass, it would basically be the same day old republican health care

legislation that has been the case for nine months that they have been propping that 24% of americans approve. it does not give protections. still raises premiums. so we'll keep an eye on to september 30th. >> rick, what might be talked about behind the scenes? again, the differ betweence wha say publicly versus what they are negotiating behind the scenes. >> what do you mean? >> regarding what may happen in thend. andy was saying let's not necessarily take what is out there and from the details we have of the graham/cassidy bill here, there still could be other negotiations happening. ted cruz in that piece of sound we were showing he was saying they promised me this, but yoe so it yet. >> and i think cruz is frustrated because he wanted certain things that he was initially promised. and so he will take a stand on that.

but look, i didn't support obamacare. i don't support obamacare. i think there is a better solution. but it's the process. you can't get major legislation passed without public support. you just can't do it. because ultimately the people will tell the congress what to do and remember, obamacare was wildly unpopular. we won three election cycles on it and then the republicans turned out they didn't have a plan when they got in charge. and now people like obamacare and there is a lot of people who have benefited. others haven't because they are paying too much. and they like the insurance that they had before. but the structure of obamacare is here to stay because we lost the argument politically. now, we can do things to fix it and make it better, and that has incumbe been the democratic point of view. are you the republicans are just lost this fight. they don't know how to explain how free market health care could possibly work.

and if you don't have public support, this is what you get. >> is this master craftsmanship by bernie sanders, because he was bringing up the idea of single payor, that they now have graham/cassidy being pushed forward, so maybe bernie sanders looks like a winner. >> well, i think a lot of democrats including elizabeth warren and hillary clinton have been in support of making sure that everybody has access to affordable health care. bernie sanders is amongst that crew, but certainly not the only one. i think that the big thing here for us is making sure that we get through september 30th, and this bill does not pass because it will hurt a lot of americans, and we actually work toward fixing obamacare and actually what that looks like and make sure that everybody is covered and people get the protections that they need. >> andy, one of the criticisms has been that we are looking at single choices because of

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it is football sunday across america and every single game so far has seen players showing a bit of defiance against president trump and the words he used to describe what pro athletes have been doing. kneeling. we'll take you now to mike is ahead of the redskins game, the last one to kickoff on this sunday which will be live on nbc

today. but so far every single game we have seen some sort of protest. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: and no doubt we will he see one tonight. this is the oakland raiders and the washington redskins. the oakland raiders of course their stand running back marshawn lynch who has been sitting down on, kneeling, but sitting during the first two games. now the fuse being lit by president trump on friday night in a speech in alabama when he called collin kaepernick an so about that except he didn't use the initials. redskins no strangers to controversial.that except he di the initials. redskins no strangers to controversial. many people the movement to have them change their name from redskins which many consider to be derogatory has picked up steam. but i have to tell you, they have just opened up the parking lot here about 20 minutes ago

for tail gagating. i've spoken to long term red skin fans. one man has been a redskins season holder his family since 1962. he said he does not want to see anymore kneeling. his friend next to him said that she in fact would not be coming to anymore games if there were anymore kneeling going on. they are tired of seeing politics take over the nfrl. they just want to come and see a football game. a lot of people feel that way except these gentlemen right here. craig and his buddies. they have come from philly, they are oakland fans for some reason. but you have a different take. tell me how you feel about this controversy and the practice now that has really caught fire of nfl players taking a knee. >> i think it's in support of kaepernick and his beliefs. across the board, i'm an equal guy. i think that we should support him because he's a good enough

quarterback to be in the nfl right now. he's better than a lot of quarterbacks and he doesn't have a job. >> but isait's happening all ov the place. >> because they were supporting him. at first no one was supporting him, but now it's growing. and it's for social injustices. and i think we do need to come together. because the country is being becoming guided. >> the kournts counter argument make a lot of money and an employer has a right -- have a right to dictate hugh thow theyd act to the job sxwlp to. >> to a certain extent. is it unprofessional to kneel and where i can't get a job elsewhere? i don't think it's fair. so now other players in his defense are doing his defense

and now they are starting to do it. >> thank you, gentlemen. richard, we should add that a lot of nfl owners some of whom like robert kraft who have donated to president trump donated to his political campaigns and to his inauguration have come out with statements strongly in favor of their players taking their side in this controversy which has really caught fire across the country today. even in london where there was a game earlier today. >> yeah, $7 million plus you're alluding to there as we have seen the owners six of them supporting president trump in his campaign and now his administration. thank you, sir. again the game kicking off on nbc tonight. the raiders only all african-american unit, they plan from what we understand do something to kneel there. next, my panel weighs in on a historic day in professional sports as many nfl players as we

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we have more on that growing feud today between the president and pro 5th completes. players remaining defiant. seeing some of the pictures of the games today where players have dropped a knee, stayed in the locker room, and other such representations of being against what the president is saying. the behind is to protest racial inequality pip want to bring in our guests. thanks for sticking around. we're just getting in a readout of what the president said as he was boarding a plane to leave new jersey to head back to washington, d.c. and he was asked about what nfl players who have been doing so far, the requests that he made

that they be fire and he was basically saying and confirming and reaffirming his beliefs. he says there is tremendous solidarity for the flag. very disrespectful when he was asked about those kneeling. he was also asked about bob kraft, a team other than. and bob kraft coming out against the president despite supporting him during the election. and the president saying he has to do whatever he wants. and that he thinks it's very disrespectful to the country. again, that again going back to the president's request that they be fired, that they do something -- when they do something like that, that the owners need to be doing something. is the president realizing that he has stepped into a culture r ral depth that he had no idea how deep it went? >> i don't think the president is coming to that realization. i think the president wants to tie this issue to the american flag and assert that these

players are not patriotic when in fact that is not working and people are seeing this as a racial equality issue which is what it is. so that issue where the president is failing essentially at spinning it into this issue about whether or not there is something about our heritage and whether or not people love america. and these players are essentially continuing a long tradition of flavplayers -- aths like mohammad ally and jackie robinson, the 1968 olympics and other people who saidly said i'm not going to be intimidated and i will sacrifice my status. so i think that these players are saying that and i think it will have ripple effects. i think the nation as a whole are looking at these players and saying if they are risk losing their jobs, i might the be able to do that too. >> and rick, the way that professional sports works today,

millennials and those that are younger, that i had guy with players, one on-to-one is the way they look at fantasy football, all these games.guy w players, one on-to-one is the way they look at fantasy football, all these games. they will take it personally, too. >> look, i think the tide mass turned on this issue. when kaepernick originally went down on his knee, there was a lot of misunderstanding about what he was doing. and the fans booed that. but it has einvolved for people to understand that this is about an issue and about a protest. and what has happened now is the players and owners have decided they don't want to be on donald trump's side. and he really crossed the line when he called players who are protesting in this way sobs, you know, he not only got all the other players involved, he also brought in mlb, and the nba, so i think trump is looking for a cheap win on this by seemingly

rallying around the flag, but misunderstood the issue. instead of looking for solutions to on bring americans together, he decided to use it as a point of departure and division. and he's now going to pay the price for that. >> and reflecting on what rick said, he used the "b" on word, sob without of course the initials thereof. and when the president did to that, he tapped into an african-american culture in the way that they view their mothers and a feeling that gois back to the unfortunate history of slavery. and maybe he did or did not understand that. >> i think he absolutely knew exactly what he was trying to do. i think he is taking a page out of his former adviser's steve bannon's play book. what kaepernick did was protected speech. he wasn't doing it while playing the game. it was right before. he was using his position and privilege to be able to advocate

for something that we all agree is a problem and should be addressed and he had the preechl freedom do it because what we fought for on for a long time. but when you have the situation that trump is literally doing this and using it i think as a distracts, we have people in the u.s. virgin islands, puerto ricans who are without any sort of support and without any electricity after these storms, we have a failing health care bill, potentially a loss for an enforced candidate in a primary, noerk and t north korea and their missile tests, i think he is trying to distract from an agenda that we should be focused on. and using a term that s.o.b. is not only offensive to african-americans, but anybody who has any respect for women across all races. it was inappropriate and beneath the office in which he serves.

>> and coal lkaepernick's mothe saying i'm proud of my son, she tweet 24ed that out herself. has the president succeeded in conflating the issue that kaepernick was saying this is about equality, this is not about being against veterans or what the flag stands for? has the president succeeded in that? it may be early to comment on that. >> i think it is early to comment on that, but i think the president succeeded in the fact that he ran a presidency that was about in some ways cultural identity, about getting people riled up about the idea of america. and i go back to the idea that after charlottesville, he gave the speech that said people are trying to take away our heritage. and he's really saying that the people on my side are the real americans. they are the people who love this country and everyone else is against me, they are not really good americans essentially. and i think what you are seeing is the vast majority of americans including some who voted for him are saying this is

one of those issues that is way bigger than just an american flag. so i think that he is floundering and really wants to try to go back to this. but this idea that he never backed away from what he said in charlottesville, i i interviewed tim scott and he said, i talked to the preds for 40 minutes, he never backed down and said he never regretted what he said about charlottesville. >> thank you so much for sticking around all hour on this sunday. thank you. next, travel ban expiration day. the white house could announce new he restrictions that's expected to be tailored to muslim majority countries. we'll discuss the challenges it could bring for travellers. we offer our price match guarantee too. and if that's not enough... we should move. our home team will help you every step of the way. still not enough? it's smaller than i'd like. we'll help you finance your dream home. it's perfect. oh, was this built on an ancient burial ground?

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nationals and share terrorist information with the united states. and their officials and officials so far have declined to reveal whether this would include the six muslim majority nations from the expiring second executive order. there's no official date for when these new restrictions will go into effect but it's expected to be very soon. joining us now is immigration attorney fiona macentity. as you look at this, what does this mean so far to your clients that you've represented? >> thanks for having me, richard. we've really seen -- it's basically been a blanket muslim ban and that's what the administration has said, trump said that on his campaign trail and we saw that that was implemented by the first executive order and then by the second executive order. >> it's about to hit the supreme court. do you think any of the changes that have been reported, the two adjust each and every one --

adjust the policy to address specific nations, do you think that will effect the case that's going to go before the supreme court? >> i mean, i'm not sure. we don't know what the restrictions are going to be but even looking at the supreme court's decision in june, they said that anyone who had a close family connection to the states should be permitted to enter and we saw the administration break that down and initially they said that fiances were not considered close family members and they went on to say grandparents were not considered close family. by anyone's definition, we think that obviously grandparents and fiances would be close so who knows we're not sure what way they'll interpret things going forward. >> what are you telling clients to do right now based on the reporting that there could be future changes here? >> i mean, all we can do is really advise on the status quo at the moment. we've heard reports that they are going to be implementing further restrictions.

we feel immigration attorneys across the country feel like it's probably the third attempt to really level this promise to ban all muslims from entering. >> what you're seeing there san immigration lawyer on the ground in chicago giving us an update. thank you so much. >> thank you, richard. we have more on the breaking news out of tennessee where a gunman opened fire near a church near nashville. stick around. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments.

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scene. >> the guy came from the right side of the church and he was just shooting. he was just shooting. he came right to the middle and shoot more. >> could you see his face and what kind of gun did he have? >> he had a mask. he had a mask. so in just the last 30 minutes we have police coming out naming the alleged shooter in all of this, also some of those that were injured. joining us now nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. the details that you've been able to learn about the gunman and those hurt or killed. >> well, thomas, they say this all began this afternoon just as church was letting out and they say this gunman who they identified as 25-year-old emanuel from nearby frooezboro drove his blue suv into the parking lot with the engine still running, he jumped out with a gun, shot a woman who was coming out of the church as the services were ending and then went inside and continued to fire. they say he shot six people