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thank you at home. that's going to wrap this up for me. stick with us for updates and breaking news as it happens throughout the night. "meet the press" is coming your way next. have a great night. this sunday, race, free speech and patriotism. president trump takes on nfl players who you take a knee during the national anthem. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these owners that disrespects our flag say get that son of a bitch off of the field right now? he's fired. he's fired! >> dozens of proathletes and teams respond with anger and disappointment. >> this guy that we put in charge has tried to divide us once again. >> and the golden state warriors cancel their white house trip. i'll take to mike tirico of nbc sports. plus, repeal and replace or rinse and repeat? once again, republicans trying
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to get rid of obama care. >> there's tremendous support from republicans, certainly we're at 47 or 48 all right, senators. >> and once again there may be just enough republican opposition to kill the effort. >> i obviously have very serious reservations about the bill. >> are you ready to support it? >> nope. >> my guest this morning is senator rand paul of kentucky who says he is a no for now, and white house director of legislative affairs, mark short. mark short. and can chuck and nancy do business with president trump, or were their immigration talks a one-time only deal? i'll ask nancy pelosi if she trusts the president. joining mess for insight and analysis are rich lowry, editor of the national revying, politico's eliana johnson, steven henderson, and former obama deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press."
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>> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in television history celebrating it's 70th year. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. there are two big stories we're watching this morning, but first is president trump's attack on nfl players who refuse to stand for the national anthem. it began friday night with a speech in alabama, with president trump saying he wishes an nfl owner would say the following "get that son of a bitch off of the field right now, he is fired." he's fired! >> count less players and owners have pushed back, inclusion others from different sports. steph curry and the golden state warriors said they would not come to the white house, and lebron james weighed in calling the president a bum. much more of that coming up. the other big story here in washington is the graham/cassidy
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health care bill. the last chance this time we really, really mean it effort to once and for all end obama care. once again it is john mccain that came in to save or ruin the day depending on your point of your view eight weeks ago, mccain gave his now famous middle of the night thumbs down to a previous repeal and replace plan. this time it came in a less dramatic fashion. "i cannot in good conscience vote for the graham/cassidy bill." the bill is unpopular with s voters and it is opposed by a virtual who's who of medical organizations. with democrats united, 48 no votes. two republicans are are already opposed and it will take just one more republican vote to kill the bill, but president trump is not giving up. at that alabama rally, the president went after mccain as the latest repeal effort appears on the edge of failure yet again. >> it's tougher without mccain's vote, i'll be honest, it's a little tougher.
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>> even president trump is acknowledging the latest republican effort to dismantle obamacare is very likely dead. >> we're going back. it's like a boxer, you get knocked down, get up, knocked down, get up. >> in alabama on friday night, the president lashed out at senator john mccain after he announced his displeasure with the bill. backed by lindsey graham and bill cassidy. >> his campaign was all about repeal and replace. repeal and replace. he decided to do something different, that's fine. >> saturday, the president continued to attack mccain tweeting john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and replace, let arizona down. just days ago, president trump was optimistic about finally getting legislative points on the board. >> there's tremendous support from republicans. certainly we're at 47 or 48 senators already.
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a lot of others are looking at it very positively. >> but by friday, republican attempts to rush it through by september 30th, to take advantage of a deadline that would allow it to pass with just 50 votes looked doomed. with two declares noes, and more senators signaling they were not ready to support the bill. >> i have very serious reservations about the bill. >> are you ready to support it? >> nope. >> the bill attracted opposition from all corners of the health care industry as well as from comedian jimmy kimmel who bill cassidy hoped to win over. >> this guy, bill cassidy, just lied right to my face. coverage for all, no. in fact, it will kick about 30 million americans off of insurance. pre-existing conditions, nope. >> realizing that repeal and replace is doomed, the president turned his base's attention to other targets lashing out at nfl players that protest in the
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players who protest during the national anthem. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when someone disrespects our flag, get that son of a bitch off of the field right now, he is fired. he's fired! >> nba star lebron james weighed in calling the president a bum. >> we all know how much sports brings us together. hoich passion it has, how much we love and care. the friendships and everything that it creates. for him to try to use this platform for divide us even more is not something i can stand for and not something i can be quiet about. >> joining me now is republican senator rand paul of kentucky, who said he's a "no" vote on the graham/cassidy bill. welcome back to "meet the press. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> i want to start with the president didn't just single out john mccake. he singled you out too, but in more hopeful tones. let me play it.
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>> he voted twice yes, sir. okay? he was very good. and i have not given up on him. i think he may come around, okay? >> senator, are you going to come around? >> i have always been a yes for repeal, but the bill unfortunately, the graham/caddy bill basically keeps most of the obama care spending, almost all of it, and just reshuffles it and adds block grants to the states. i don't think block granting it makes it go away, it just makes the money you're spending still in obama care. taking it from democrat states and giving it to republican states. i think it sets up a food fight over the formula. what happens when the democrats win? they'll try to claw back for that money and give it to democrat states? this is a bad idea, not repealed, however all of that being said, if they narrow the focus to the things we all agree on -- expanding health savings accounts, giving governors more freedom, through waivers, slowing down the rate of growth
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of a outrageous entitlement spending, sure, i would be for that, but just not for this block granting concept, because to me that is an affirmative vote that i have agreed to keep obama care. >> i would say this -- if you cannot accept the block grant concept, then you will never accept it. is that fair to say? because that is the centerpiece of the bill. >> they could remove it and then we could vote on what we all agree on. a mandate to -- >> wasn't that skinny repeal? >> i think there is more in this bill than skinny repeal, if you remove the block grants. but the problem i have -- look, i started my political career campaigning against obama care. i said at rally after rally that we would repeal. i can't in good conscience vote to keep it. all of the spending, once we do, the republican name will be on income, and this won't work. we'll have republicans absorb the blame for a terrible health care system. >> so if block grant is in there, you're a no.
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there's no room for you to move? >> i would vote for block grant at pre-obama levels. if you want to look at 2009 levels with medicaid i would say yes. but after you doubled the spending on these entitlements programs, we have a $700 trillion deficit this year. and $20 trillion debt. we can't keep piling on new money. there has to be a few conservatives left in washington to say we're really for repealing obama care. >> lit me ask a question, and you probably have heard the speculation, but "the national review" put it this way about you. there has been widespread speculation on obama care. he does not wish to really see major changes to it and he will libertarian-sounding objects to it with the chance of passing, the implication that you don't want to change the kentucky system. there's a lot of people that like the system, but can't get
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call every says that. >> well, i think that is a personal insult to my character. coming from the pro-war "national review" i don't doubt they would say that. this is a bunch of neocons that don't like libertarians, frankly, so they don't like me and they personally insult me and say it is a charade. most people that follow me know there has not been a more consistent voice for repealing obama care. i've put forward replacement ideas. right now i'm still working with the president on letting people buy across state lines in groups, health care associations and the president has assured me that's coming by executive action in the next couple weeks. he believes he can do this. the secretary of labor believes he can do this. i believe we have good news that will get millions of people access to inexpensive insurance. i keep working for free market solutions but not for blockgranting obama care, calling it a day, saying we're keeping it but we're going to divy it up. >> i have to ask for your
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reaction. there has been a lot of conversation between the president and the leadership in north korea. the rhetoric has been not high, it has been a little low. the president tweeting that this man is a madman, just heard foreign minister of north korea speak at the u.n., but then you had the leader of north korea calling the leader some pejorative in his language. are you concerned we're going down a road we can't pull back from? >> yeah, i think there is a problem. if i were going to be sending messages to north korea. i would say this -- we don't plan on invading, we don't plan on regime change, or occupying north korea. we don't plan on being the one to have an offensive military strike for any reasons other than the defense of south korea ourselves. i would also say there is no good military option for us, but
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also for them, and they need to realize that in no uncertain terms, that there is no option for them to use military weapons, because the results could be catastrophic for them, but also the results could be catastrophic for everybody on the korean peninsula. i hope that we can ratchet down the rhetoric, but i'm still a believer that china can be coaxed into this. the one thing that i have offered that no one else has is, i would say to north korea, if you will dismantle your nuclear weapons, i invite china to be part of an international force on the dmz, to help keep peace within there, and i think that would reassures them that we won't come in there. the problem all started with barack obama bombing libya that sent a terrible message to north korea. that we weren't to be trusted. >> you brought up your libertarian ideology. i'm curious, what do you think of the nfl players and what they have doing in their protests and the president's criticism of them. appropriate?
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>> you know, i have been outspoken in saying there is racial injustice that comes from the war on drugs. there a disproportionate impact on our minorities in our country. but should speak out and do something about it. i don't like that we fight undeclared wars in foreign lands. all that being said, though, if you ask me if i'm proud of our country, yes. am i proud, yes. am i hopeful? yes. my reaction would be that i don't hesitate to criticize policy, but i stand and say the pledge, and i think that people should. that would be my advice. if anyone asked me, or if a kid schedule some, i still complain, have your focus, but i think this is the greatest country on the planet, probably in recorded history, and we need to be proud of our country and try to make it a better place. >> so you think it was appropriate that the president criticized these players that do this? >> i think people have the right to protest. i think that -- i understand
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their protests and join some of the things they're unhappy with. i personally stand and say the pledge and i think that is better, the better way to do that. and take your complaint in a different ven you. >> i understand that, but you didn't address my question about the president. >> if i was the president i would probably not get involved in this. the think is, i think that the nfl makes money off of their fans, and the one thing you could hear from trump saying that to that crowd is tens of thousands of people. i think a lot of people across the country don't understand sort of disrespecting the flag or the country. look, see, i can stand up in my state and have real serious complaints about fighting. and unconstitutional war in a foreign land, but at the same time show that i'm very hopeful and patriotic and i think you can do both at the same time. >> senator paul, i will leave it there. thank you for coming on and sharing your views. >> sure. earl i spoke with mark short and started by asking him about
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what president trump is trying to accomplish with his attacks on colin kaepernick and other nfl players? i think it is simple. coaches are getting punished for praying with their players in high schools. yet when an nfl player take a knee is presumed to be a martyr for a social cause. there are ways to express concern about social causes, but there are generations of americans who have fought and died for the freedoms that we enjoy. that are represented in that flag and the national anthem. and i think the president is saying yeah, the players have a first amendment right but nfl owners have a right. that right is that these players represent their teams and if the owners want to get rid of them, they should by allowed to get rid of them. >> what do they think of a vast majority of owners that think he is creating more divisiveness, not less. what does the president think of that criticism? >> i think the president is standing with vast majority of
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people who think our flag should be respected. >> why did the president bring this up? was it because two hours earlier he found out senator mccain was voting no on the health care? >> is it because two hours >> i think the president has felt this way for a while, and friday night he expressed it, i don't think it has anything to do with the health care vote coming up. >> in our poll it said race relations thought it was good. 70% thought race relations were bad, and this was across party lines. across the ideological spectrum. does the president have a plan to try to play a role in improving race relations? >> i think the president believes it's his role to improve race relations, but it is also important to note that we had a historic election
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where, but race relations didn't improve under his tenure. >> does picking fighting on twitter with steph curry, getting in back and forth, does this help it? >> steph curry is an amazing story, in fact he's an icon for a lot of young children. my middle schooler idolizes him welcome he was a great guy that welcome. he he has a great story. he is a great player that was overlooked. he is now perhaps the best basketball player in the nba. what is unfortunate when they politicize a visit to the white house. the president has hosted the patriots, the clemson tigers, the cubs. it's not necessary to make this into a political argument. he is trying to invite them to acknowledge their terrific season and steph curry is amazing. why the warriors chose to political an invitation to the white house i think is unfortunate. >> you were hoping the warriors would take the high road, why not the president? >> they were the first to come out and --
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>> does two wrongs make a right? >> i think the reality is the white house is something special, and if they don't want to come to the white house, the president says don't come. >> are the votes there for health care, or is it make sure the vote happens regardless of whether mitch mcconnell knows he has the 50? >> we're planning to have the vote, we think it will probably be wednesday. >> do you believe you will get the votes and who is in place in -- do you think you can get rand paul? >> let's step back and look at this. in the last few years, obama care has employeded. people are hurting. there was a promise that if you like your insurance you can keep it. over 1400 counties have only one insurer left. there is no competition if is a monopoly. you were promised your premiums would decrease. how has that promise worked out? is there anyone that can say their premiums have decreased?
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in alaska they have gone up over 203% in the last four years. >> you laid the case for why you think some changes need to be made, but this change? basically in every single medical group you can think came out this morning with a letter and they write this. we agree that the bill will result in dramatic cuts to medicaid, changing the way that states provide coverage. millions will close their coverage and go without needed care. the big concern is this is a massive change in how medicate is given out in this country. is this the time to do that? >> medicaid is going to go broke. what the republican plan does is not cut medicaid. it does not. it does decrease the rate of growth which only in washington does that mean it's a cut. all of those groups decided at a price they would climb in bed with the obama administration to
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pass obama care. you know why? because it mandated that everyone had insurance. so if ire an insurance company and every individual, whether you want it or not, you're forced to buy insurance or if you're a corporation you're forced to buy insurance. you like that plan. they want more government bailouts. that's what they're asking for. american people are tired of special interests deciding what the vote be in washington dc. >> shouldn't there be some pause that you could find a singsle medical health care group that supports this bill? >> there are millions of americans who will benefit, in fact we think every state will benefit, you know why? because governors will be given the opportunity to allocate the program that makes the most sense for their constituents and residents. this is long overdue. we're taking something where the previous administration where they thought a utopian idea would now best how to distribute across america. let's allow the states to divide the program that is best for their people. >> do you accept the analysis that pre-existing conditions are not going to be protected?
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because they states are -- >> absolutely not. absolutely not. preexisting conditions are protected in this legislation. >> the word " -- >> it doesn't change the legislation that obama had in obama care. it leaves that clause the same. >> and you believe that states are somehow going to abide by this. there's nothing here in here that changes it, chuck. >> it says in there there is nothing that protects that person from the state. you're assuming the state will do it out of the goodness of their heart. there's no league remedy. >> there is nothing that takes away pre-existing condition coverage. >> all right. very quickly, the president said he may have made a mistake in getting involved in the alabama primary. he said it in the rally itself for one of the candidates, luther strange. does the president regret getting involved in this primary?
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>> he has supported luther strange from the start. the president won all four special elections he has been involved in this fall. we're confident he will win again on tuesday night. >> for he loses, is it still a win? >> if he loses, republicans will still hold that seat. >> is it still a win for the president? since it's his base supporting the other guy? >> i think that the way will -- it will depend on what roy moore does. we think either way that they will hold the seat. he has been a loyal ally of the president. >> we'll leave it there. >> thank you have having me on. >> thank you for coming on. when we come back, what prompt set off by going after nfl players that take a knee in the national anthem. the president is saying what he thinks of the players and the players are saying what they think of him. that is next. than our name suggests. we're an organic tea company. a premium juice company. a coconut water company. we've got drinks for long days. for birthdays. for turning over new leaves.
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we're also being joined by mike tirico of nbc sports. we appreciate you form i will begin with you, but i want to show you a few things here. president trump attacks nfl players for taking a knee, and collecting the tweets was a full-time job for our staff, and we also reached out to mark cuban, who of course has straddled politics a bit. he was at the global citizen festival yesterday in central part. here is what he said. >> if the president is going to say something condemning a person or an industry, a sport, then he has to be about to take the blow december back that's going to come back. so lebron, steph, any owner, it's an open door now. they have every right for the same reasons to say whatever is on their mind. now we'll be able to see if he can take it. >> we were texting yesterday,
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and you had to me that locker rooms are pretty emotional, that was before noon yesterday. how emotional now? >> i think the players that gather saturday night to get ready for the game on sunday, they had conversations. buffalo and seattle for sure. ownership was involved. pete carroll said it ended with "i stand with my players." i think you will see more of a collective show of some form of protest. not necessarily protesting the initial protest with colin kaepernick, but protesting the president's direct pointing to these players. >> there is a lot on conspiracy theories that the owners blocked kaepernick. all of a sudden it feels that the president outly united the players and owners today. the number of teams that stepped out, and the six owners, none of them spoke out until this morning, and bob kraft, it has
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uflighted players. >> and robert kraft is one of the most prominent voices in the league. and no hiding, he is a friend of trump. for him to come out as strongly as he did, and some of the statements did not include the president's name. some stood behind the commissioner's statement. when kraft's did, that was an eye opener to me this morning. >> he is speaking for a public entity. i thought that was the most surprising. you had an interesting tweet, rich lowry. friday night you said, a typical trump, he takes something and goes to 11, and then a liberal media blowout. i didn't think the president thought that bob kraft would be denouncing him on sunday morning. >> the president should not be musing aloud for people being fired for acts of free expression. if this is a kneeling versus not kneeling debate, trump will win all day long. this is one of the most
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flag-soaked countries in the world. protest movements always do themselves a favor when they embrace and appropriate our national symbols rather than being seen as disrespecting them. >> this is a good political wedge even if it is more divisive? >> i think it is if he is speaking to the very small segment of the country who cares about this. but i think what you'll see today when football kicks off a big segment of this country disagrees with him, including players and owners uniting. these players have a much deeper reach into these communities than donald trump does, and he has just ignite add cultural war he may not be able to win. >> eliana, the white house thinking this is a good political fight. they were not happy when they found out our segment was going to change this morning. they weren't happy. >> i think the white house understands that they do see it as a kneeling versus not kneeling issue. not a sports star versus the
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president issue. the president has a keen understanding, if he understands one thing it's what cultural flash points in this country are. he has an able to stick his finger in them. after hess picked a fight with the pope -- >> we all said, oh, mccain that will hurt him, then the pope -- >> he has a way of taking it to the extreme in such a way by suggesting these people should be fired, that ignites an enormous blowback and makes it difficult for people to stand with him. the truth is the majority of americans, i think 54%, do object to players not standing for the national anthem. >> stephen, we put together a list of president trump and racial controversies. the border wall, the muslim ban, attacked judge curiel, and attacked the khan family, both sides of charlottesville were blamed,
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went after colin kaepernick, steph curry. they say there's a pattern. >> there is a pattern. i think it is clear, the annoyance on the part of african-americans and people that want more racial justice is the apologists. who continue to argue about whether this is a president who supports organizations of white supremacy. here is what he said in alabama and how enthusiastically how he said it, that these people should be fired contrast that with what he said after he saw white men with torches march charlottesville. there are lots of fine people among those marchers he said. then put it into the policy context. this is a president whose attorney general has said, you know, we're going to back off these consent agreements with police departments who are causing the very problem that people like colin kaepernick is protesting. you know, how can we continue to have an argument about whether this is a president who is
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pushing the idea of white supremacy? >> the race conversation is never comfortable in america, but in sports it usually is more comfortable. the locker room unites people of all colors. >> a torn acl does not know race. >> and a quarterback from a very different part of the country, they all come together. so locker rooms come together, that's what you'll see today. i think you're going to see teams come together in support. maybe not say we would also kneel with you, but we may put an arm on you and support you. >> i think that is the question. regardless of whatever poll you want to point of of whether or not people think nfl players should stand during the anthem, they probably also agree with it's their right to do what they want. nobody should be taking it away from them. that says what has united the nfl today. >> he is not randomly attacking the players, it is because they're kneeling during the
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national anthem, but the anthem is not a white supremacist symbol. >> some of the words of the national anthem are white supremacist. >> you think the national anthem is racist? i think this history is steeped, and the anthem reflects that in the words, verses we don't sing anymore. >> but it's also a nation with ideals that worn down injustices over time, and people have died under that flag for those ideals. >> understood. my father and my grandfather are among those who served. >> you can have opinions about policing, but don't disrespect the flag. >> so to take a knee and respectfully sit there. he is not turning his back, he is not burning it or dragging it through the dirt. what is disrespectful about what we do? >> it takes two minutes to stand and pay respect to the flag. to all the sacrifice it is represents. >> why doesn't he find it
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disrespectful for people to be marching and carrying torches and invoking violence and a young woman was killed. he didn't find that disrespectful. he called them fine people. >> that was tone-deaf and wrong. >> you're right. why is the president enraged about someone taking a knee at a football game but not enraged by violence? >> i have to put a pause on this conversation, but let me try to put a period with you, mike, will colin kaepernick have a job this time next week? why do i think he will? >> i don't think next week, but i think there's more of a chance he'll be back in the 23468 because of this dust-up. there's a separate football question. does he want to play, is he ready to play? clearly his ability on the field, he is worthy of being on an nfl roster. >> how about the fact that the shows that maybe some people at this table could try out and have a shot? >> it's still early in the season, but there is room for him from a football standpoint.
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>> we will see you tonight, sunday night is "football night in america." >> thank you. when we come back, nancy pelosi helped put together a number of deals with president trump, but does she still trust him? can the base of her party let her keep working with him? is nancy pelosi joins me next. building a website in under an hour is easy with gocentral... ...from godaddy! in fact, 68% of people who have built their... ...website using gocentral, did it in under an hour, and you can too. build a better website - in under an hour. with gocentral from godaddy.
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welcome back. last monday president trump shocked the political work by striking deals with senator chuck schumer of new york and house minority leader nancy pelosi. one was for immigration and one was to provide hurricane relief money for texas and to fund the government for another 90 days. is this the beginning of a beautiful friendship or a one time only moment? joining me now is nancy pelosi. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. my pleasure to be here. >> before we get to the business side of washington, you represent san francisco, the golden state warriors, along with colin kaepernick. i know this is more high topic of mind in your district, i imagine i know where you are on the president's comments on this. what would you like him to do if you think he would do it?
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>> i would like him to do what he said he would do when he ran and was inaugurated to bring people together. he should see this as an opportunity. colin kaepernick, doing what he did, says this flag enables me to do this, the anthem enables me to do this, it is about freedom of expression instead of resorting to what he is doing now. it's unfortunate. i think he was ill-advised, if advised at all. sports are always been a great unifier. i have always said sports and the arts bring america together. we put our differences aside. let's not have the president of the united states do anything but bring people together. regardless of whether you think it's the right politics, do you see the political strategy in this? >> well, the -- you gave a lis of the examples of how the president has been, shall we say, exploitive of
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certain divisions in our country when it comes to race. i hope that he would not transition from that and understand that he has a different responsibility than feeding red meat to his base. he has unclean hands when he comes to this discussion, too, because of what he did after charlottesville and the other examples that you gave. >> what do you say to the activists on the left, a person who is really angry at president trump, who says don't work with him at all? you're working with him. does this ever give you pause? >> let me just say this, as a speaker and as minority leader first, and as speaker working very closely with president bush, what could be worse than taking us in on the basis of a false premise? isn't that one of the worst things to happen in our country? yes working with on the biggest
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energy big, helping with refundable tax credits, saving lives, there is a long list of things we did working together, even though i drastically disagreed with him on the war in iraq. >> so none of this gives you pause about working with president trump? >> it is one by one, one issue at a time. we don't know where the next issue may be. where we can find common ground. i do believe, as leaders -- as an advocate i probably would be saying the same thing. at a leader, we have a responsibility to try to find common ground, stand our ground where we can't, but we have important challenges in our country that we have to address. if we can find that path, i think we should do that. >> one of the details about the promise you think you extracted from them on daca. tell me about this? what is this compromise bill going to look like? >> we haven't seen the whole bill. what the piece of is it chuck
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schumer -- leader schumer and i, what we agreed with the president on was that the basic bill would be the d.r.e.a.m. act. it is a bill introduced with nearly 200 co-sponsors by congresswoman allard. it is a bill we will take forward and it is the bill that we all support. what was to be determined is if and what there would be in terms of border security. but the essence of the bill is what the president committed. that's what we trust him to honor. >> he committed to a pathway to citizenship for these daca recipients? >> mind you the pathway is earned that is way down the road. >> but some people think there should be no path at all, permanently cut off.
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you agree that the president agreed to a pathway to citizenship? >> that's what is contained in the d.r.e.a.m. act, yes. >> you think he will keep hi word on this? >> that's what he said. >> what makes you trust him. >> well, we'll see. i'm concerned about what he might come up with in terms of border security and the rest of that, but we have said no wall, the d.r.e.a.m. act, no wall, and as long as we understand it's the d.r.e.a.m. act and no wall, what else can you -- >> speaking of the wall, the president on friday started describing the wall as the following. there are some parts that are already there. sometimes there will be natural barriers, you don't need a full wall, and oh, by the way it's going to be see-through. you gave me that definition, and i said that's a fence. does that make you feel better now about where he's going with a wall? he's outlining a fence?
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>> no, it doesn't, but i'm more concerned about what they do in terms of enforcement. we have said to them, when we protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers, we don't use them as a target to go after their parents. we want to say the prosecutorial discretion that you might use in terms of deportation does not use status as immigration status as a crime and if somebody commits a felony, this or that, so those are the issues that are more of a concern than hi backing off of a wall. woulder not supporting a wall. >> what is the next item that you think is realistic that you could work with the president on? >> within the immigration? >> no, any piece. is it health care?
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tax return? is it infrastructure? >> i would say infrastructure. right from the start. infrastructure has never been a parse san issue. we have always worked together regionally in terms of people coming together in regions for different things, and it is absolutely necessary. good paying jobs, a good place in the country for everyone. he talked about it during the campaign. we don't want it to be a tax break for some friends disguised as an infrastructure bill. >> that is something you're going to the table with him on this for, too? >> i think we have a great deal of common ground there. >> daca before the end of the calendar year? >> we have to. i believe so. we have that path. i would like to see it in the next few weeks but certainly before we leave. >> all right how democratic leader nancy pelosi, thank you for coming in >> my pleasure, appreciate it. >> when we come back, the national anthem has been played at the first nfl game of
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end game, brought to you by boeing, continuing to protect, explore and inspire. >> back now with end game, there is politics that still happens in this town, eliana. i don't think it's a coincidence that two hours after mccain said no, the president went on an nfl rant, meaning that he was viewing that issue as dead. is graham/cassidy dead or alive? >> i think my instinct says that i bet against it but for as many self-inflicted wounds that the president can administer, there is a process problem. no one ever heard of graham/cassidy three weeks ago and now it's the talk of the town until yesterday. and bills just don't pass that way.
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and the same thing with the last bill. this is just not the way to pass a bill that needs major support campaign. >> steve, you're trying to reflect your community as editorial editor. are people who are outraged about obamacare, don't get rid of obamacare? is that what we've come to? 700,000 people have signed up which raises the costs considerably and a lot of those people will say i'm against obamacare, not even linking that to the coverage that they now have. there's a lot of misunderstanding about how this all works and how it can be
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solved and then you have people who say it's made it worse for them. and i feel like congress is not helping that and also deals with this rise in premiums that is hurting other people. >> rand paul came after you. first of all, his ask to become a "yes" vote, isn't graham blocking the entire point of graham/cassidy? >> for me, his reaction is that the editorial landed and one of the great ironies is that the election of rand paul, senator republican from kentucky, is one of the best things to happen to the cause of preserving obamacare because he'll just find a way to vote against anything that is plausible.
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but the process has been terrible. we're going to grind it out slowly, build support, work out the various kinks and problems rather than this rush and stop and rush and stop which makes it impossible to build support for the bill. >> they are going to take an entire year anyway and get nothing done. >> stephanie, one of the chief criticisms of your boss' decision to pursue health care is that it gobbled up his entire two terms to defend it. >> it's gobbled up everything. we always knew -- first of all, it took us a good 18 months, almost two years to get it done through a very public process, which politically was very difficult for president obama. but we always knew once it passed, it would be very difficult to unundo it.
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but we knew once people were on it, and pauline shows this. that a fix is needed. absolutely. they don't want to start over or keep having this debate. they want us to find ways to make it better. >> we are so out of time. the fascination of rory moore. finally, we talked about the damage that hurricane irma caused and then this week happened. hurricane maria has devastated puerto rico. if you want to help your fellow americans here are four charities. it's top four star rating given to primarily simply aid puerto rico. this is going to be months, folks. don't forget that. that's all for today. don't stopwatching. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." sunday, it is "meet the
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if you've got a life, you gotta swiffer how do we come to grips with the 2016 election? arguably one of the biggest electoral college upsets in political history. and the first u.s. election likely to have fallen victim to foreign intervention. it's something millions of americans have been asking, even months after the shock of election day. now we're hearing from the woman at the heart of it all, hillary rodham clinton out with a new book called simply "what happened." i spoke to hillary clinton about what happened and also what we do now. take a listen.
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