his 35th wedding anniversary. congratulations, john. [ applause ] and john is in the fencing company as you heard. and i'm just thinking, i have to mention this. we have a fence around the white house. we have a fence around the white house. and they want to build a new fence. and i figured, you know, i'm pretty good at construction. i don't know. maybe a million. maybe a million and a half, and this has been taking place over a long period of time. previous administrations. so i said how much is the fence you're talking around the white house? sir, the fence will cost approximately $50 million. i said, what? i kid you not. and we have thousands of things like that. thousands. we're going to get it all down. but think of that. $50 million. now i assume it's a strong

fence, okay? so, john, do you think you could do it for slightly less than $50 million? i think he could take 49 off right now and he'd have plenty of profit. right, john? it's crazy. it's crazy. >> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. we've been watching the president in indianapolis talking about his tax proposal, among other things. he also mentioned health care and the crisis in puerto rico. but before that, donald trump doing the political version of a walk of shame this morning, deleting all of the evidence of the man he was rooting for in last night's gop primary. big loser strange. here are those deleted tweets from the president. quote, big election tomorrow in the great state of alabama. vote for senator luther strange. tough on crime and border. will never let you down. also quote, ruther strange has been shooting up in the alabama primary polls since my endorsement. finish the job.

vote today for big luther and also from the president's twitter feed, alabama, get out and vote for luther strange. he has proven to me that he will never let you down. #maga. but even before president trump's candidate went down last night, donald trump was questioning his choice. >> i might have made a mistake, and i'll be honest. i might have made a mistake. >> and today he sought to dust the whole messy episode under the rug with this tweet. spoke to roy moore of alabama last night for the first time. sounds like a really great guy who ran a fantastic race. he will help to #maga. why does any of this matter? the issue of donald trump squaring off against steve bannon's candidate. and roy moore has said things so controversial and outside the boundaries of civilized discourse even in the time of trump that we can't show you his

past comments on september 11th, birtherism, islam or muslim. he's described as a firebrand jurist, best known for denying a judge's orders to remove a ten commandments monument. let's get to the latest from the political blow. glen thrush, megan murphy and commentary magazine editor john pedoris, a newly minted msnbc political contributor. whoever thought you'd be an msnbc contributor. the times -- >> times are crazy. things are crazy. >> all right. let me just tell our viewers that if the president goes off script and says anything related to any of the big stories we're covering today, we will turn that around or we'll go right back to the president live in indianapolis. but let me start with you, glen thrush. we've got reporting from another network that says the president

woke up embarrassed and pissed. that was a quote about losing last night. >> well, i did, too. >> why? >> but only after i found out john had signed on as a contributor. >> you've got competition. but listen. the president, i'm guessing this gnaws at the president on his most basic and primal and cellular level. this guy was a loser. steve bannon beat him and, three, the guy that won was sort of trump before trump. >> well, he was -- look. trump was, to use his own terms, pissed before luther strange went down, before big luther went down like mike tyson in 1990. i think trump knew this was going to happen. my reporting a couple days ago showed he was angry on the plane and accusing luther strange of being low energy and asking people why it was that he did this. bob costa of the "washington

post" had a good story talking about the people who sold trump on luther strange. jeff row, a former ted cruz staffer. very well regarded consultant. was luther strange's guy. getting closer to the white house. he's going to have a little bit of a problem and jared kushner, here we go again. jared kushner, we are told, also played a role along with steppian, the white house political director in selling this. that's going to be an interesting space to look at over the next couple of days who he blames. >> in fairness to all the people that glen just named, john, roy moore is a problematic horse to back in this race. >> totally. but the issue here is also that mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, luther strange. jeff sessions went to the attorney generalship and the governor who has since resigned appoints strange as senator and mcconnell wanted to back strange

to he hilt on the grounds he wanted to tell other republican senators up for re-election next year that they would be backed if there were insurgent republican primary challenges against them. the negative blowback of this is that if anyone wants to do that, it is open season now. they are free. the money -- the spigot will open. the idea you can take down an establishment incumbent will now be general all over the place. you have roger wicker. you have jeff flake who may -- i now wonder whether jeff flake will even run with this result. and bob corker of tennessee withdrew yesterday from re-election, from considering himself for re-election. so not only a white house story. a general republican story, which is at a time when republicans might be able to increase their margins in the senate, they may be blowing themselves up all over the place. >> megan, we tried to put together a reel to show our

viewers who we're guessing aren't super conversant in roy moore's background. but we literally cannot show people on tape the things he said about september 11th, about homosexuality, his racial slurs he used as a candidate in this race. so what does it say that republicans now have to get -- if they want to be for the republican in the alabama senator race, they have to be for this republican? >> people talk about normalizing now. let's not normalize this by calling it anti-establishment. this is far more than anti-establishment. these views are so extreme and let's just talk about one about homosexuality. this is very recent commentary comparing it is bestiality, refusing repeatedly to accept judicial standards on same-sex marriage. this is not anti-establishment behavior. he's best known in his state for the stance he's taken on social issues. so what does it leave us with? it leaves us with, yes, the

threat that money, that other establishment candidates are at risk for possible challenges. but it also shows the trajectory of this country and, frankly, what if steve bannon and that wing of the republican party remain with this populist sentiment still running so hard. this isn't even populist. this is a throwback to a prior age of republican politics. >> not even republican politics. this is prior southern politics. it came to prom nance because he paid with state money for the construction of a ten commandments monument that was sat in front of the alabama courthouse, right? and then federal judge said you can't use state money for this and can't put it on the property and he rejected -- >> he refuses to accept the rule of law. >> but and that was a stunt. he's a stunter and a flame thrower, a provocateur and a joke and he's gross.

having said all that, which is an important point, i think that one thing that is a little disgusting is that democrats could have voted yesterday. they could have crossed the line. it's an open primary. they could have vote forward strange to prevent moore from being the nominee. the way that republicans voted for buddy romer in 1991 in louisiana to prevent david duke from becoming a senator. if that is not -- there is an overall obligation here in a time of horror when a horrible candidate is coming where citizens -- citizenship demands you make painful and difficult choices sometimes to prevent your state from being dishonored. >> glen thrush almost fell off his chair when you called him a jerk. let me bring you back in on the topic of jerks and let me ask you what it's likely to do to donald trump's psyche that he was beaten by bannon who i'm

guessing he was sort of pressured into ousting from his inner sanktum. >> i think he wanted to get rid of bannon. donald trump likes a winner. and this is very likely to improve steve bannon's standing in donald trump's mind. as you saw from his erasure of the past in terms of the twitter stuff, i think what he's doing here is he's saying, okay, this is etch-a-sketch. i'm ready to move on. donald trump is really, really good at pretending he won when he lost. my suspicion is over the next few days we'll see behind the curtain stories, perhaps written by me -- >> i hope there's stories and not books. i'll die waiting for that darn book. i hope they come out as stories. >> i wouldn't put it past me to write such a thing. >> me neither. >> essentially that trump hated him to begin with. hated strange to begin with.

thought that roy moore, he liked the cut of the man's jib. >> liked the size of his gun. my 5-year-old has water guns bigger than that pistol he had on stage yesterday. talk to me about this reporting in axios that donald trump is physically mocking the way john mccain and mitch mcconnell carry themselves. you talked about him calling luther strange low energy. i'm guessing insults along those lines are being assigned to mitch mcconnell, mitch m. and john mccain who he imitates the thumbs down gesture when he voted on health care. and it brought me right back to his physical mockery of a disabled journalist that brought him so much criticism during the campaign but did nothing to repel his base from him. >> i haven't been able to confirm the axios reporting. one of the great privileges of joining "the new york times" is getting to work with surge koeb

leffsky. donald trump does this kind of thing, even in a minor way. he imitates people. i don't know if this particular story is true but it gets to this question again and roy moore is part of this. sheriff clark was part of this. arpaio was part of this. >> what do we, do megan? i joke about my kid, but we now got a president who weaponizes patriotism. whatever you think about what players should do, he's now made that about -- you can't love the flag and kneel during the anthem which is a false and a fake and sort of a dirty political tactic. and then he's now squarely behind, and it sounds like he's got a little buyer's remorse for being behind the establishment figure. whose positions and past statements are so beneath what is permitted on cable news that we can't air them for our viewers.

>> you'll not be able to etch-a-sketch out roy moore's record or the things donald trump has said. there does come a time you look at the nfl debate that's gone on and you need to start using words like racist language, racist rhetoric, calling it out when you see it. the way things are happening, and i have said this repeatedly and you'll be talking about this. but all in the shadow of puerto rico this week. in the shadow of an escalation of nuclear capabilities. and what are we talking about? he's on the stage laughing and joking and these are people who face no water, no light for six months and he's talking about the leading tweets about supporting luther strange. this is a real problem of getting to the meat of the issues affecting americans. he's introduced his tax plan today for example. you saw how they'll spin that as a populist reworking, this working class coming up. no math to support that as of yet but it's really calling out the facts and not saying things

like anti-establishment about a figure like roy moore. >> we knew what we were getting. no one should be surprised by this. he ran for a year and a half before he won the election. exactly the same guy. you'd hope the presidency would elevate him and that has not happened. the question you then have to address is what is the national fallout from this. as i said, that's why it went to the senate which is he's going to -- he may be presiding over a civil war in the republican party at a time when the republican party controls the house and the senate and could grow its majority in the senate but not if everyone is fighting with everyone and $100 million -- >> i guess the question is, is anyone in the senate, any republicans going to say, i don't want to be in the same party as roy moore. i'm not endorsing him or backing him because that could save the republican -- you may lose a seat but you might save the

republican party. >> you think it would matter if -- >> i think it matters. >> so this guy has said things so abhorrent that i can't say on cable and do you think mitch mcconnell and all these guys will get behind him? >> i don't think they'll talk about it. mitch mcconnell has said we'll do what we have to do to get roy moore elected. >> he's going to do that and roy moore is going to help run a coup to get him out of his seat and mitch mcconnell, you'll deserve it. glen rush you get me all riled up. thanks for spending time with us. when we come back as megan was talking about, the scope of the humanitarian crisis in puerto rico is coming into sharper focus. donald trump continues to give himself rave reviews for his administration's handling of the recovery effort. imagine that. actress and activist rosie perez joins the table to offer her review of the president's response. later, we'll return to the russia investigation and efforts to protect bob mueller.

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we are in the midst of a terrifying humanitarian crisis. the red tape has to be ripped off as if it was a band aid. people keep asking for memos. write me a memo. for heaven's sake. write me a memo? ask me for what you need? i'm going to tell you what we need. we need diesel, gas, running

water, some sort of way for people to find their way around and we need our hospitals not to become death traps. so this is a big sos for anybody out there. >> that was the mayor of san juan puerto rico laugh night with rachel maddow describing not only the utter devastation puerto rico has suffered but pleading for help for diesel, gasoline, water, from anyone who can provide it. the 3.4 million residents have been largely out of power in the wake of the storm as the territory's entire power grid has been knocked out. and that coupled with widespread flooding has left the entire island in a full-blown crisis. the acting secretary of homeland security says supplies are arriving and the search and rescue portion of the effort is largely over. now the focus shifts to distribution. she also said that at&t is trying to get cell phone service restored and this afternoon the president announced the navy hospital ship "comfort" is on

its way but won't arrive for at least another week. where does that leave the people of puerto rico? the united states citizens of puerto rico? joining us now on the phone from san juan is puerto rico's secretary of state luis rivera marin. thanks for joining us again. i want to ask, in your view, what is the most urgent need at this hour? >> thank you for having us again, nicolle. it's been a week now since we had a direct hit of probably one of the most devastating hurricanes in the nation's history. as an island, our most urgent need is telecom where we have isolated areas on the island because of all the debris in the roads it's been hard to reach many of our remote towns. also diesel distribution has been a challenge for us, and

that's -- yesterday the governor assigned me the responsibility of making sure diesel is distributed for power plants around hospitals. and vegetables and basic food products. and we've been receiving loads of tanks because of the amounts of diesel that need to be distributed. certainly it's a logistical challenge that it's been normalized. we have 1,100 gas stations in the island and 24 of those are nonoperational. and we had only 90 in operation. today it's 530 so we're trying to get those lines in the gas station that are cars and also gas containers for small power

generators that are -- our families have a refrigerator so they can meet the basic needs. >> one of the basic needs is health and security as you go days and weeks without power. how are you going to keep your most vulnerable, the sick, or young cool during what's a hot time of year and how are you prioritizing nonurgent evacuations from the island? >> basically, we are -- all our hospitals, elderly care houses, nursing homes are highest priority. those are being taken care on the ships whereby water and diesel for power generation is making life easier for while we

get everything in. so our elderly and poor people are most vulnerable are still in our shelters. now we are going from public schools where they were really sheltered to more permanent shelters with the help of fema that is bringing temporary housing down to the island. >> do you have everything that you need? is it really just a matter of distributing it or do you need more resources? >> well, what we have, if we're talking about fuel, we have the fuel that we need stored but what we need is to get that fuel to the hospitals. we need to get that fuel to the different institutions that need it in terms of supermarkets, in terms of food storage facilities. we need the diesel to go to our nursing homes. so we don't have a railroad system. it's basically through our roads

and because we have limited access in some of the communities, it has been challenging. so food and water, what we are doing is air drop with military helicopters. and i've got a brief from fema earlier in the afternoon. and we've cover ed 60 of these municipalities and those include the island municipalities. yesterday we received 26,000 gallons of fuel together with water and even cash for the atm machine. >> luis rivera marin, thank you so much for joining us. please come back often. we want to stay in touch with you throughout this crisis and make sure you're getting what you need and your concerns are heard on our air. i want to turn to nydia velasquez. thank you so much for being with us. i want to ask you for -- i know you've been to the island.

i want to ask you first your views, your concerns about the federal response. >> well, as you know, i went to puerto rico on friday with the governor of new york. and when i came back, i shared with everyone the need for a comprehensive plan to respond and to deal with this disaster. the devastation that i saw, obviously, told me that we needed a kind of response that will require the federal government to deploy all kind of assets. as you heard from the secretary of state of puerto rico, they might have diesel. i got a text from a former governor of puerto rico telling me that some of the institution, hospitals, were running out of diesel. so today we sent a letter with 150 members, my colleagues, to the president asking for

specific areas where they could be helpful. one of them is to appoint a three, four-star general to oversee the whole relief response. and that we -- that he would be able to make the decisions on the ground based on what he sees. the problem with puerto rico right now is that with the vulnerable population in remote areas, there's no way to reach those communities because the roads are obstructed because they lost bridges. so we need an aircraft to -- with planes and helicopters so that we could reach those remote areas. another thing that we need is the experts from the military to help restore the great infrastructure because without that, we are putting a lot of

lives at stake in terms of access to health care and the security. there is so much desperation. there are some looting going on in puerto rico. so we need manpower, we need experts, but more than anything, we need a top-notch person who can oversee the response. >> congresswoman, this is september. children all over are going back to school. i know that the crisis is too dire right now to even think about that, but as you made clear, this is the new normal. things aren't going to be back to normal for weeks and months. i wonder what we can do, what the federal government can do for children who are in some instances homeless. i know there's a question about whether the water supply is safe. you talked about security. i wonder if you feel there needs to be a bigger federal government response but also more that private industry does.

could cruise ships sort of be nearby and service schools for the school year? could more private sector assets be deployed to puerto rico. should cell phone towers be getting built? are you seeing the kind of collaboration between the federal government and private industry that it's going to take so that a generation of kids don't lose a school year so the health crisis doesn't become -- you're describing what lester holt described on our air yesterday which is basically a war zone. >> it is. it is. and that again, we need to have someone in charge that will over see the interagency response but also could work with the private sector in collaboration with the government of puerto rico. and determine the type of resources that are there, what is lacking. what do they don't have. tomorrow we're going to be asking speaker ryan to move a

supplemental next week for the virgin islands and puerto rico. we need to make this island whole, and the only way to do that is with a strong response from the federal government. >> can you just weigh in for our viewers about the debate at the white house. the president said he was looking at and considering the two different sides about waiving the jones act. can you explain to our viewers what that is and what your desired outcome would be on that debate? >> so i would like to see the jones act is waived at least for one year so that we could have those th -- visas for those who are not american to enter puerto rico and bring humanitarian relief. cuba is ready to send help for puerto rico. supplies. to send 39 doctors. by the way, in the last ten years, we lost 10,000 doctors.

we don't have specialists in many areas. and so that is owhat the jones act will do. supplies will be less expensive than neighboring islands like the dominican republic or even the virgin islands. so if we did it for texas and florida, we can do it for puerto rico. given the fact that puerto rico is facing an economic crisis. a fiscal crisis. puerto rico is facing a collapse of the health care system, as you know, with the medical clinic. and we have been struggling in providing the resources for puerto rico to continue to provide medical services. if we don't allocate money for the medicaid and many people in puerto rico will lose access to health care. >> i know you have to go. but, kwquickly, do you see any

difference in the federal response to puerto rico than you did to texas and florida's hurricanes this season? >> well, i -- i think that it took a little bit of time for the administration to comprehend how devastated puerto rico is. and, therefore, the kind of deployment that we needed, not only in manpower, but also equipment and every tool that is needed to respond efficiently and effectively. we're not there. and we are starting to see some vessels and some ships that are going to puerto rico right now, but this is day seven. people could die. and, in fact, the death toll has been rising in puerto rico. >> congresswoman nydia velazquez. thanks for joining us. we're going to stay on this. up next, my friend rosie

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one week since hurricane maria ravaged puerto rico. and there's no sign of when the island will get back to normal. you're looking at unbelievable damage. footage taken just hours ago by nbc news reporter gadi schwartz. but beyond the destruction there are the stories of incredible rescues and reunions. one of our correspondents on the ground, tammy leitner, captured this story from one of the

communities completely isolated since the hurricane hit. >> reporter: in puerto rico, an incredible rescue mission under way. this team of new york city firefighters and police officers searching for a family of six. gabriel had not heard from his family since hurricane maria chewed up the main bridge trapping his loved ones and entire community. his town, one of 11 on the island these rescue workers have still not been able to reach. >> this is going to take over an hour just to get up this hill. >> reporter: we've been walking about 15 minutes. there's trees down, power lines down. gabriel says the last time he saw his family was five days before the hurricane. >> reporter: gabriel's desperation visible. then finally, after almost two weeks apart -- an emotional reunion.

and tammy leitner is now live for us in san juan. i have seen that twice. it moves me every time i see it. you've been here since the storm hit. i want to know how has the situation and the mood on the ground changed? >> reporter: it's still a pretty dire situation. there is no power across 95% of the island. very little water. about 50% of the island doesn't have running water. and there's long lines everywhere you go for just the basic necessities. people get up before the sun and they take their gas cans and line up outside of the gas stations. sometimes waiting four, five or six hours. and this isn't just gas for their cars. this is gas to run their generators. so they can plug in their refrigerator, operate a stove. there's a long line for the pharmacy. this is one of the few pharmacies that's open and it

has no power. it's completely dark inside. across the street there's an atm with a line of about 15 people. several atms have already run out of money. they are putting a limit on what people can withdraw. this island is nowhere near starting to heal and recover fully. >> the federal government says they're doing what they can, that they're getting the deployment of relief and aid under way. but there's a real lag time, isn't there? are the people on the ground starting to see any of the effects of what the federal government says they are doing? >> we've traveled to a lot of communities since the hurricane hit and there is still very little food and water. yesterday we were just about 90 minutes outside of san juan and people were, for the first time getting water. getting some mres brought in. and so it's a desperate

situation. people out there actually said they were so desperate for water they jerryrigged a pvc pipe to catch mountain stream water and we talked to a young man filling up a bottle there and buckets to bring back water for his family. no, the resources aren't getting distributed across the island nearly as fast as a lot of people would like them to be. >> thank you for all your reporting. joining me here on set is actress and activist and dear friend rosie perez. you have family in puerto rico. you and i have been talking since before the storm hit. how is everybody doing. how are you doing? >> it's been tough. it's been tough. it's been tough to remain calm for my family. thank god my sister-in-law was found. my brother was very, very relieved. my other family members, my cousins, my aunt, finally got in touch with them. there's only a few that are still -- we haven't heard from. but it's very, very hard.

it's very, very difficult. >> what do you think about the president first off giving himself pretty high marks for how he's responded and using the explanation that puerto rico is an island in the middle of a big ocean for why it's taken so long. tammy leitner isn't seeing much evidence at all of much aid making its way around the island. >> well, when i first heard the president's comments, i was so enraged. i was just brought to tears. i was screaming at my husband. you know, we are -- >> why? >> because we're here at day seven. we're helping in texas and florida. there was immediate response. immediate response. and it reminded me when i was a child. when i was a child and i would go to school and kids would find out that i was puerto rican. they'd say my mom and dad said puerto ricans are ignorant and lazy. puerto ricans are island people. i said, well, we're united

states citizens. we're americans. you are? you know there is this constant history here in the united states that has constantly treated puerto ricans as less than, subpar, second class citizens. and i felt that the president's delayed response just personified that. >> john heilemann positted this to show yesterday that it was possible the president may not have even known that puerto ricans were americans. >> i -- that's completely believable. there is a lot of people that did not know that puerto ricans were americans. are americans, excuse me. and so it's completely believable from this president. >> what do you want -- i mean, obviously, a disaster and full disclosure, i worked for a president whose entire presidency was colored by what was viewed as a disastrous response to hurricane katrina, and granted there are lots of other people and parts of the government that get involved but the president sets the tone. what can the president do,

obviously, he's made a terrible first impression on you. what can he do from this point forward? what extraordinary efforts or gestures or outputs from the federal government to be dispelled of your impression? >> i think that more rapid and immediate action of deployment of what congresswoman nydia velazquez was talking about. send in the planes, the choppers. cbs reports that 3,000 shipping containers are just sitting on the docks of puerto rico with food and water and medical supplies. they can't get them to the people of puerto rico because of the roads are all blocked. bring out the planes. send in the troops. immediately. that should have been done on day one. and it has not. and i also think that his tone when he is speaking about puerto rico, he shouldn't congratulate himself over and over and over of how well he's doing. i think what he should talk about is the suffering of the people. and how he feels their pain. i haven't heard that from him

yet. you know, and it just -- that's what i mean about feeling like we are second class. it's just infuriating. i'm sorry i'm getting emotional. i saw the congresswoman velazquez. that's a very strong, well poised woman and to see her near tears the other day at the press conference at the javits center and see her emotional again today, it's tough. >> you know, tammy leitner who has been there since before the storm hit, she's been all over the island and isn't seeing the aid delivered to the people that need them. i guess the question i have for you is, what are you going to -- i mean, what will the first sign of anything changing be? are you in contact with friends and family there? are they seeing any -- is the cell phone coverage getting better? i asked the question of the congresswoman. we are asking enough? are we asking enough from the federal government and private industry? why isn't the cruise ship

industry parking ships -- where are kids going to go to school? there is a question about the longer term sort of stability and security and future of all the people. >> exactly. why is jetblue the only airline that assisted the governor of new york and media, the congresswoman to go down there to bring supplies? why are people in the airport waiting for flights? why are people waiting at home wishing that they can afford a ticket for an airline. why doesn't the airline industry offer free flights right now? why doesn't the -- >> airline industry, why don't you do that? just a thought. >> so let's start throwing spaghetti against the wall. i think a lot of people here want to know what we can do. what can we do? >> there's a website called united for puerto rico the first lady of puerto rico has established for necessary funds to go directly to the island. that is a great place. also our governor cuomo has established a site on his website as well that you can go

ahead and donate. and there are some wonderful prominent puerto ricos. ricky martin, mark anthony, jennifer lopez, lynn manuel. they are galvanizing and strategizing right now to put together a huge fund-raising concert. let me say this. jay-z. he's not puerto rican. he is doing a concert with title x at the barclays in october to raise funds for relief for puerto rico and the virgin islands. sam jackson was at a party at my friend george's house. he said how can i help? i says help what? he says your people. i says sam, that's wonderful of you. he said, no, that's human of me. they're american citizens. >> hollywood elites are so often maligned by president trump and by sort of that wing of the republican party and there was a lot of commentary after the presidential election that hillary clinton wasn't assisted by elites. they are putting their money

where their mouth is. you look at the debate that erupted over the weekend. athletes willing to risk their careers on taking a principled stand and kneeling. maybe at the risk of losing their jobs. talk about whether you think this is a moment when the dynamics might change, when the public might see that it is people like ricky martin, like yourself, like jennifer -- i was fired for not knowing all the celebrities. j. lo. who forgets j. lo. but, you know, that when the rubber hits the road, when it's your home, that you guys really do get out there and do extraordinary things to help people. >> yes. puerto ricans take care of puerto ricans. and americans take care of americans. isn't that how it should be. >> i think americans should understand that puerto ricans are americans. and i think -- >> 100%. >> we've established here that it's not clear that everybody does. >> it's not clear at all. it's not clear at all. and it's just -- oh, my gosh. and that goes back to our education system. you know, because it's not

taught extensively in schools. so how could people know? how could they know? >> i have to ask you what you thought of the president's tweet a couple days ago. we might have it. but he tweeted to sort of somehow suggest that some of the problems in puerto rico were the fault of puerto rico, something about wall street debt and whatnot? and this is the images are -- texas and florida are doing great but puerto rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure and massive debt is in deep trouble. i've never -- it's sort of victim shaping, victim blaming. >> and also the major reason why puerto rico is in debt is because of the jones act. the jones act was relieved from the u.s. virgin islands. how come it's not being relieved from puerto rico and it's because they have big lobbyists who are threatening, you know, the white house to not repeal it. and your guy, senator john

mccain, that this president has taken to task, who has tried to humiliate him over and over and over, he was on this way before this disaster ever occurred. he wanted the jones act to be repealed as well. and what people don't understand is that there are tariffs in regard to the import and export of goofeds. puerto ricans have to pay double, triple that people on the mainland pay for goods and medicines and supplies. this is why they are in debt. >> i read that stat today it's one of the lowest income parts of the country with the highest priced goods of the kinds of goods. there's so much more to talk about. will you come back? >> i will come back. thank you for this time. i just want people to know, we are americans. and for those of you who are taking care of us, i thank you from the bottom of my heart. >> i thank you for coming on. please come back. >> please come back. rosie perez, my friend.

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another level of job security. >> kasie hunt from washington, i heard a lot of legislation to protect mueller, died down. it's come back. why? >> reporter: because a hearing announced on this matter for the senate judiciary committee, and i think that the way you should read this and there's still a couple of different bills on this backed by two different groups of bipartisan senators and they're slightly different how they would execute, but the bottom line is that the senate wants to send a message to the president to back off, and chuck grassley, chairman of the judiciary committee particularly forward in this essentially saying don't mess with me and said it in a multitude of ways. mostly through his committee. not a guy on microphone, but speaks quite a bit. >> the president is squarely uner scrutiny seems the time to fire bob mueller might have been before we knew so much in the president's role of firing comey

and a statement aboard air force one that turned out to be phony baloney. >> he'll have to make a case. that he's doing it in national interests. >> what could that possibly be? >> that it's a side show. a lie. it's false. trying to drag down the presidency, blah, blah, blah. this whole thing is a side show in its own way because, of course, the house members never passed such legislation and proposing it to create a fight between capitol hill and the white house. you know, if things should get to that point. i mean, there's no chance legislation would pass. it is a separation of powers problem. he is an official of the -- an appointee of the executive branch who was not clear to not confirm by konchcongress. >> seems totally untenable to investigate whether your own team interfered in the 2016 election that elected you? >> and we have to look where the probe has gone.

focusing on financial dealings particularly with paul manafort but the involvement of facebook, twitter, how social media was used to influence the election werther in russia or our countries. posts a lot of people have real vested interests in, intensely focused and sort of extricate or try and wipe this, etch a xwe-ah your way out of this. >> sure. he's trump, he'll do what he has to do. >> doesn't that make the case for the legislation? >> not saying it doesn't make the case for the legislation pap solid republican majority they will not pass legislation against trump on this if it happens. that's my view. i'm not -- talking to the value of it and i do think, however, that it's important to focus on the fact mueller is moving very fast and he better get stuff out, then. >> all right. sneak in another break. kasie hunt, thank you so much. we'll be right back.

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before we go we want to put up the website rosie mentioned. unitedforport re unitedfor unitedforpuertarico.com. >> loved the rosie perez interview. good to have her on. nice work. if it's wednesday, more victories means for problems for the gop. >> tonight, the senate victory that's more, roy moore, than the gop establishment bargained for. >> well, we have a man who's going to be a great senator. >> we'll talk to the democratic challenger hoping to defeat roy in december. plus full-court press on athletes and activist. kareem abdul-jabbar joins the conversation on president trump, social justice and the take a knee protests. and the tax man. >> there's