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residents in puerto rico, a u.s. territory, are scrambling to gather vital resources. saturday after the president tweeted a barrage of complaints about san juan mayor cruz, cruz reminded viewers that some puerto rico residents, are american citizens, have resorted to drinking from a creek while they wait for clean water. as of now at least 18 people have died in puerto rico as a result of the hurricane, that may still rise because of all the power outages at hospitals and more. and this morning, mr. trump again weighed in on relief efforts and the pleas for additional help. he tweeted we have done a great job with the almost impossible situation in puerto rico. outside of the fake news or plimgly motivated in-greats, people are now starting to recognize the amazing work that has been done by fema and our great military, all buildings now inspected for safety. thank you to the governor of pr and to all of those working so

closely with our first sfo responders. joining me now is tammy leitner. good day to you. let's get a little bit from your perspective on the back and forth between the mayor and mr. trump. has trump actually reached out to the mayor personally offline, do we know phone calls at all? >> reporter: no, that is unclear whether he has reached out to her. but i can tell you, i've spoken with the mayor of san juan many times and she is fighting hard for the people in this community. i've seen her go door to door asking people if they need food, water, if they need to be rescued. she has been an outspoken advocate for this community and she did speak out a few days ago pleading for help. that seemed to be what triggered the tweet storm from prd. i asked the mayor about this and she felt personally attacked. lets listen to what she had to say. >> you know, i have no time for

petty comments. i have no time for -- i'm telling you this with a shimile. i have no time for on anything that is not the main agenda which is saving lives and i will do what i have to do and say what i have to say in order for the message to get through. >> reporter: alex, i can tell you that there is some slow progress being made on the ground here. there are about 700 gas stations now open across the island, but despite that, we are still seeing enormous lines. people are were here early in the morning before it was even lightweighting with their gas cans. undoubtedly they will be waiting for three, four, five hours. so small steps are being made, but a lot of progress that still needs to be made to help the people here. >> we thank you for bringing us the latest. the u.s. virgin islands also still struggling with relief efforts in the wake of hurricane maria's destructive landfall. we now have the managing editor

of the st. croix minister joining us by phone. talk about the immediate aid that is needed to help the people in saint destrt. croix. what are you looking for and asking for? >> we're looking for the chopper lands that came into the virgin islands after hurricane irma hit on st. thomas and saint john on september 6, they were just large enough for cars. and to indicate date as i talk we are still waiting for choppers. for example it rained cats and dogs yesterday. so walls were blasted out and roofs blasted on out from irma on st. thomas and st. john, and from hurricane maria on september 19th and the 20th on st. croix, had all of their belongings that perhaps were a little bit dry, all wet again. >> well that is extraordinary.

you're just trying to ask for people to stay dry and keep the rain out of them and i imagine cover some of the trouble to ke rubble to keep folks safe. what is in need by most of those on the island? >> well, for tlks are still loog for water, rations, meals ready to eat that fema is handing out. but i have to say, overall in st. croix, the regional coordinator has been doing a her kulian task and he is conducting daily briefings every night. and there is water and daily shipments sfwlp we shipments. >> well, that is certainly good news to hear. you can give a guesstimate as to how long it will take for st. croix to fully recover?

>> a while. it will take months. our utility system currently is in shambles with hundreds of polls snapped like tooth picks especially on st. croix where i'm at. the same thing happened during hurricane irma on saint. thomasd st. john. and if you think about it, we're dealing with two category 5 hurricanes in a matter of 12 days. and when irma hit our sister islands, everyone on saint destroy mobilized and sent water, jen rat generators, whaty could, and then here comes maria and now we're in the same position that they are. our students have not attended classes. irma hit the same day they were headed back to classrooms. parents are now sending children to relatives on the u.s. mainland and administration officials right now are working

for senior students who likely will attend college next fall. i don't have to tell you that st. croix had just one week of classes pre-maria and now we're working to gheet the schools to begin by at least october 9. >> it is an extra ordinary recovery effort. thank you so much for joining us. best of luck to you, ma'am. we'll keep following things. let's turn now to kelly o'donnell in branchburg, new jersey just a few miles from the bedminster golf course where the president is wrapping up his weekend. kelly, what can you tell us about what the president is doing this weekend to aid puerto rico's relief efforts? >> reporter: it's a limited picture because the white house gives us very little detail about what is happening behind the scenes. with the exception of reading out that sort of the term of

washington a number of phone calls the president had with the governors of puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands, former governor of pourtuerto rico, tg about the status of the progress, the federal response, what still needs to be done. and in the official statements coming from the white house about those phone calls, there was certainly notable comments about praise exchanged back and forth, the president praising the leadership of those officials he spoke with, the white house chronicing assessments of praise for president's handling of this as well as the fema director. so this appears to be a case where the phone calls which are a standard part of the president's outreach in a crisis like this or with international leaders when those are the events of the day. but this this instance, it's the way that the white house is connecting the president directly with officials on the ground. in advance of his trip tuesday. now, that is publicly known. the president has said that he

will be visiting with melania trump the first lady. what we don't yet have is a sense of which officials he will meet with, how extensive his exposure to the devastation will be. there is always that balance between wanting the president to see relevant important things that are happening on the ground, but not wanting the securities required with the president's travel to get in the way. after the flap between the president and mayor of san juan, today even more tweets with knife twisting reference to political ingrates, there is a mixed message. offering solidarity, unity, prayers, but dings at leadership and even the work eithethic of o rican people. those are the things that he will have to deal with. there will be certainly memories of what he said and how it will affect the response, his

reaction. >> we will all be watching that. kelly, thank you so much. so everyone, joy reid, she is now onset in washington, d.c. running from one studio to the next. okay, joy, take it away. >> running in heels. thank you so much, my friend. and of course joining me now to talk about the fallout from donald trump's puerto rico response are adrian, buzzfeed news and associated press white house reporter jonathan lamere. you will be traveling with donald trump traveling to puerto rico on tuesday. have you spoken with people on the ground that can give you a sense of what kind of he reaccepting he might get given the things he's said about the country and the mayor? >> i was speak heing to some puerto rican officials yesterday telling me that they expect to be something like what he was doing in harvey. so i would imagine that he will be trying to help out and have a little bit of that photo-op situation.

i think that -- i saw the political in ghchlt nchlingrat. they are asking about the mayor and why is she criticizing us. and obviously she's saying she wants to help her people and first she started with being nice and now she's turned to a little bit of indignation. >> do you expect them to encounter one another? >> people don't know. the white house has said they are open to that, but again they took another shot at her yesterday being on tv all the time. >> and jonathan, the other thing that has been strange about the white house, they have been sending these read joutd outs o essentially praise from other officials including one from the former governor of puerto rico, but who lives here in d.c. where i am now who is not even in office anymore. what is going on there? all of these readouts contain some of the same language.

frgs what do you know about that? >> the white house issuing readouts of conversations with foreign officials, that is standard procedure. a readout with a former official, that is unusual. the white house seems very interested in the public relations aspect of their response to this storm. we have seen this from the president's tweets, highlighting his conversations with people who have been complimentary of the white house response. he himself repeatedly saying things are going well, which at times seems to fly in the face of the reallity on the ground. we keep hearing reports that there has been certainly some slow progress in sports of puerto riparts of puerto rico, once you leave he san juan, life threatening oig situations. and this is a president who seems to not want to address it at least not with any sort of

honesty. and we need to keep in mind that presidencies are often determined, often measured by the president's response to a natural disaster. the second term for george w. bush never recovered from the handling of hurricane katrina and perhaps this president is very mindful of that and is trying to get ahead of that narrative. >> and if he is doing it, he's not doing it in a smart way because what people will remember about the disaster that is taking place in puerto rico and u.s. virgin islands is not just the fact that his own general, his three star general on the ground said they don't have enough supplies you can don't have enough troops, that you have the mayor of san juan pleading with the world for aid. and despite cannot that far from the mainland of the united states. and that you have a president saying things like this, and this is just this morning, saying we have done a great job with almost impossible situation in puerto rico outside of the fake news or politically

motivatmoted vatsed ingrates, people are recognizing the great work done by fema and the military. thank you to the governor of the puerto rico who is an ally of his and those working closely. inmean that is what people will remember. >> this is not a white house as we have seen that deals well with nuance. you are either with them or against them. the governor of puerto rico was telling me that there are civil workers who cannot get to work. their families have been affected as well. so they need bus drivers and truck drivers, but they can't get them out. tom bossert said we need more land vehicles. so the president goes out there and he is criticizing, he's saying either puerto ricans don't want to work, so then it's either he doesn't know what his own officials know or he doesn't care. >> and do you get the sense in talking to the governor there that he understands that while he may tell you much tyou of th inadequacie

inadequacies, that if he's p publicly critical of donald trump, that could jeopardize things? >> he's said we will need more help going forward, and so right now he's still on the right side. is yesterday trump called him ricky. i think the governor can't hit where the san juan mayor clearly feels that she can do it. >> and again the white house response, it has not been judged to have been going well by any objective standard, but does the white house also perceive that it might have a growing political problem here, not only because puerto rican american citizens complaint vote for president on the island, but they sure can if they get to oerld and you have oerld a orlando and you have a lot of family members arrange to get their family members to florida or new york. is there is a growing political problem because he keeps attacking the woman of color mayor of san juan?

>> i think the senior leadership priority is the humanitarian crisis. but, yes, there is a political reality to this. florida is of course a huge swing state every four years. the president barely won it last november. it would be certainly key to his re-election chances. they are aware that this is not playing out well. the president himself was very engaged with the response to the previous two hurricanes in texas and florida, he was very much -- he grappled with that and he went down there, he rushed down there perhaps sooner than he should have. he wanted to he show some leadership. which is why his response to some has been puzzling. there are geographic realities of course, but these are americans. these are americans who deserve the federal government's response and some people of course think that washington has been slow. and as another point, the president repeatedly going after the fake news to use his phrase. an argument can be made particularly now, that is a

dangerous claim. by understand mining the reports on television, and a lot of puerto rico doesn't havemining on television, and a lot of puerto rico doesn't have electricity, you're asking them not to believe the reports of their own life and safety. >> and again this is a graph that shows the change in the number of puerto rican voters in florida. and you can see the bottom line is puerto rican voters and the flat line on top is cuban-americans. so they may want to keep in mind some of the political realities here and of course the most important thing the humanitarian situati on the ground. thank you. and up next, congressman guttierez is in san juan and he has words for the trump administration.

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nearly two weeks after hurricane maria ravaged puerto rico, 600,000 people are still without drinking water, 10,000 are living in shelters, and 95% of the island's 3.4 million people remain without power. joining me from san juan is representative guttierez. thank you, congressman. give us an update from where you are how the recovery effort is going in san juan. >> it's slow, it's tedious, it's bureau krat tick. but let me first of all say we should all congratulate the thousands of fema workers who i can tell you, i saw the tears in their eyes, the anguish in their face. they are here working tirelessly and i on only holy hope that thl government in washington, d.c. gives the patriots the necessary

resources and instruction and guidance so they can do their job. i want to say thank you to doctors who have not excellent in days, nurses, policemen who abandoned their own families to keep public safety and to all of the volunteers throughout the island. and to people in the mountains, you should have seen them with no water, cleaning out their houses, trying to do as best they can, going to rivers, looking for sources of water, trying to survive. but acting as a community and even the weak helping those that are weak. it's an incredible humanitarian gesture that i saw. but we have a humanitarian crisis on our hands. >> and are people that you are talking to aware of the fact that the president of the united states is attacking not just the mayor of san juan, but really the puerto rican people in general and sort of implying that they are lazy and not helping themselves and want to

depend on the federal government? >> yes, the word is getting around quickly. maybe not in the mountainous interior parts of the island where communication is very limited, joy, where people are just trying to survive so they don't have radio, they don't have electricity, they have no way. but in the metropolitan area, people feel ininsulted. they feel that the president of the united states has said that they are lazy. they're not. and i want you to say yeah, are you standing up for your own? hell yeah, but i'm standing up for my own because i've seen it with my own eyes. i have met artists, singers, they are delivering goods to people that need water and food. and i've met with soldiers and i'm so thankful to them and they

volunteer. puerto ricans who liv4ri6 live mainland said i want to be deployed. they left their families behind to be here. i've seen soldiers come with bags of candy for children because they wanted to say we're here for you. so joy, if you were here, you would see what a lie it is. and i say to the president shut down your twitter account and open up your heart and come and see what is going on and support the very brave people of puerto rico in this moment of crisis and need. >> and is it particularly galling to you as a member of conference and the people there that donald trump is doing this wil he while he is at his golf resort. he's been golfing since thursday. there are reports that his golf schedule may have even slowed down the ability of his government to respond.

>> let me gist te just tell you to the president roll up your sleeves, come here, and help people. that is what the leader of a country does. he leads. and stop trying to make some puerto ricans good fourth ipueri can't be, others bad. stop dividing and conquering. whether it's the governor doing everything he can as governor of this island nation of puerto rico or the fabulous courageous mayor of san juan who is telling it like it is, hear her. hear her impassioned plea for help. instead i think he seed aad ddy

difference woman. and it's not about you, it's about the people of the island. come and help them, stop fighting. we're all -- everybody on this island is working real hard. and you're turns your back on the military here, the thousands of fema workers who are here. lead them. what you're doing to them and to all of the workers, you are making them feel that they are not being supported. you have to support them because psychologically, mr. president, it's also important that they feel emboldened. and joy, cut through the red tape. i understand all the rules and regulations. this is a time when you break the rules and regulation and you save people's lives. and stop telling us how much it costs. that is very offend suffer. so what value do you put, monetary value do you put on the life of a child. on the life of a senior. on the life of somebody here who is going to lose their life

because of the price. stop talking about money. i know that is how you think of the world. not in this case. think of lives. shut the -- shut it down on twitter. open up the heart. >> congressman guttierez from san juan. thank you so much for your voice this morning. we really appreciate it. >> joy, i'm going now to pick up my three nephews and take them with me to chicago because that is what is necessary to get the children out of here. and i hope that other people start thinking about a process of evacuation, of people from the island. 80% of the people in new orleans were evacuated. we have to get people out of here also. that has to be part of the plan. yes, i'm starting with my nieces and nephews because i know that is the dream of so many pauerto ricans. >> thank you so much. really appreciate it. my panel weighs in on the

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the crisis in puerto rico presented president trump to embody one of the most significant roles ever a president, the roam of comforter in chief. during times of tragedy, americans have looked to their presidents for hope and reas issuers ra reassurance and how presidents respond can define their legacy. ronald reagan rose to the occasion. george w. bush was praised for his address after 9/11 though later condemned for his flyover after hurricane katrina. president obama offered hugs and

reassurance to the people of jo jo joplin after a tornado. and then we have donald trump, a president who responded to the desperate plea for help with mean tweets. my panel is joining me. and thank you all for being here. i'll start with the ladies at the table. begin pea being quinnipiac has a new poll out which has dire numbers for president trump. 56% say that he is not fit to be president. that is not different than when he was running. those who say they are embarrassed to have him as president, 51%. 57% disapprove of the overall job he is doing. so these are not good marks.

do you think donald trump changes any of these numbers by the way that he is performing vis-a-vis hurricane maria or is this just the way it will be for four years? >> did everily just him. it's who he is. just when you think the president hits rock bottom, he finds a way to take it even lower. and i think when you look at puerto rico, it really brings out the worst toxic brew of donald trump which is the racism, encompeten incompetence egomaniac that he is. we are talking about 3.4 million people who are really trying to survive and fighting for their life. they have no medicine, the food is running out, there is no water, no electricity, and this is what he does from a luxury resort and talking to the polls as well, he is making money hand over fist what he's doing every time he is golfing at his resort and he has no shame about it.

but yet he is okay with attacking the mayor from the 18th green. that's what he does. sgl sgl . >> and it's interesting that the attacks onyor of san juan, a woman of color, a year to the day after he attacked former miss universe. >> with all women, but particularly with women of color. i mean the way that he has attacked her is just absolutely revolting. i was speaking with a tenured professor from howard university who is a psychologist just trying to get a grasp on what it is we're dealing with. she's never spoken to him, but she watches the news and she's explaining the level of nars simple that narcissism that we see and the fact that the country has to deal with it and it's that in respect civnarcissism that led to attack the mayor of san juan.

and there are photos online with pictures of them at the exact same time. he is hitting the ball on the green and she is up to the waste on o waist in water. is it because she's a woman, is it because they speak spanish, maybe he wasn't sure that they were actually americans? i mean, whatever it is, it is absolutely repulsive. this makes the response to hurricane katrina look -- it makes katrina look good. this looks intentional. >> and i think with katrina, the idea was sort of indifference, where here it seems to be malice. >> and steve, you write about leadership. this is what your book is about. and donald trump is of course the president of the united states. and so sort of the person who is in this position of supposed to, you know, sort of unify the country in moments like this, but this was his treasury

secretary explaining why instead of doing that, he attacked the mayor of san juan. this is miis his secretary trea trying to explain that to us. >> you mentioned the governor, but not the mayor. why did he attack the mayor? she's in a situation of a desperate situation, it seemed to lack empathy. >> well, i think as you know when the president gets attacked, he attacks back. and i think the mayor's comments were unfair ghich given what the federal government has done. >> is that a good enough explanation? >> i'm trying to control the emotions, the feelings i have right now. screw politics. this is not about politics. this is not about democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberals. i happy to be a row plan catholic. it didn't matter what religion you are. the human side of this, the human pain and suffering that we all see in puerto rico, 3.4 million people suffering, the fact that the president of the

united states chose to attack mayor cruz of san juan, forget when where these coming from politically, he attacks her and says she's been pushed by democrats to say nasty things about trump. the insanity of that to make it about himself, the golf thing speaks for position. he talked about optics of firing one of his cabinetmakers because of private planes? look at those optics. i say to every trump supporter, i don't care if you think that we're the progressive liberal trump bashing media. ask yourself what those optics tell you. ask yourself if those piblgts te pictures tell that you we have a president who gives a damn about people who are suffering. forget about who praises him and who criticizes him. rise above it. and for his secretary to say he

talks back, when obama got attacked, he found the good in people. this is a president who gets a-plus for devise sifness. and in my book, leadership is about bringing people together in the worst of times. >> and yet for some people, there is sort of a method to the madness. two puerto rican officials wrote a piece in the new york daily news in which he said to donald trump, we all know what the president is really doing throwing red meat to the only supporters he has left who feast upon his insults about minorities. the republican party, members ever of it, very few have said much. is it because they too are enthralled to that same base who they know this will be popular will? >> yes, but what is going in

puerto rico and what the president is doing, it's a symptom of a larger overall problem. the president is isolated and an overblown sense of grievance. he feels he needs to be getting credit for things he shouldn't be getting credit for because he has very few accomplishments. he is becoming isolated and congress ional republicans largely ignore him. he has no real legislative track record. he has only executive orders to show for what he's done and he has a further divided nation. at the same time when we look at what he was saying yesterday, it sounds like a valley girl. oh, my god, they're ingrates, why don't they appreciate me? we have a high school girl as president of the united states essentially who is trying to make it all about him and his ego as opposed to the fact that 5% of the people in puerto rico don't have drinkable water. 90% don't have cell service and only 5 % have electric power.

the optics are bad and deservedly so, but it's now all about how people don't appreciate the very great things that are going on there. >> i think the word he used impotence i think is really important here and it's key. i mean, if you think about the optics, the mayor, there was no direct attack on donald trump. and the woman humbles herself and goes on worldwide television and is begging for help to save lives. and the best that he could come back with was an attack. and statements that they want us to do everything for them. you know, it's not a direct attack. they are saying 10,000 troops is not enough. people need water and food. people need to be evacuated. please help us. and so you have to question yourself are we really looking at what happens when a man like donald trump feels impose tent and th impose tepts.country deserves more.

>> sunday morning many people going to church. for all those trump supporters when he spoke to the evangelicals and tried to quote the bible terribly, ask yourself what jesus would have done, ask yourself what any decent person would do. that is not what the president is doing. people need to check themselves and ask themselves why they are defending this president at this time with so many people suffering and just asking, begging for help. this is not political. it's humanitarian. >> or in the case of a lot of members of the republican party just being silent about it. thank you guys very much. and coming up in our next hour, if it's any given sunday, and "a.m. joy" is talking football, but first, on saturday night live's weekend update, some choice words about donald trump's attack on the mayor of

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i made the case that the accusation that i knew about john podesta's e-mail hack in advance was false, that i knew about the content and source of the wikileaks disclosures regarding hillary clinton was false. and that my exchange with someone claiming to be guccifer 2.0 when viewed through the context, kept and timing was benign and innocuous. >> roger stone is just one of the major former trump campaign associates under the prussia probe and this week he testified before the house intelligence committee in a closed hearing and denied any direct contact with wikileaks or with russian operatives during the 2016 laefrk election despite his tweets

including this one foreshadowing the dump of e-mails. joining us is now a former prosecutor. thank you very much for being here. i want to take you back to october of 2016 when roger stone tweeted hillary clinton is done, wikileaks. and then on october 3, he two s tweeted i have total confidence that julian assange will educate the american people soon. and four days later, wikileaks released their first batch of e-mails that were hacked from john podesta, they did that right after the access hollywood tape happened and roger stone said he had been this contact with assange through an intermediary. does it square with his claim in the closed door testimony that he actually had no foreknowledge of what wikileaks was doing? >> well, you know, ud be a great

prosecutor because i think you laid out some of the evidence pretty we would. but if you listen to what he said carefully, there is a lot of bombastic talk. but if you listen to his denials, he didn't deny having anything to do with it, he said he didn't know the source of the information for example. so he actually chooses his words when its do this subject very carefully. and if you look at his prepared statement, which i dissected online, and i think people could probably find in my twitter account somewhere, if you look at it, he says for example he denies that he worked with the russian state. but he doesn't deny working with russia individuals or representatives or others. he says the russian state itself. he's very careful about certain things that he denies. >> and roger stone left his formal role in the trump campaign in aufg lasgust of las but continued to support donald

trump. as far as robert mule remembell investigation is concerned, would they only be concerned with what he did while he was on the trump campaign or would they then go forward and look at some of the statements that he was making even though he had no formal role afterwards? >> i think they would certainly be concerned about his statements afterwards. the role really won't matter. the question is, you know, if we have russian people whether officially part of the government or not committing crimes in the united states and hacking -- it won't surprise your viewers that hacking into a server is a crime and i investigated and prosecuted those cases myself. if you were involved in that, if you were encouraging that activity and aiding that activity in some way, you could he potentially be criminally liable as well. >> and paul manafort was also added on to the campaign, they sort of did dirty tricks. he said this on tuesday about

manafort when he was asked whether he thinks that his former business partner paul manafort will be indicted. >> the fbi told him he would be indicted? >> i believe his attorneys informed my attorneys of that. >> does that make paul manafort the most dangerous person to not only donald trump but to roger stone because in theory you could try to get out of an indictment by throwing somebody else out under the bus? >> i secertainly think it's tru if we heard paul manafort will be indicted, then yeah, if i was his attorney, i would already have been telling paul manafort you have some serious criminal liability if the fbi is picking the rolock on your door and searching your house. you need to figure out how to help the prosecution and help yourself. right now he is in defiant mode and going against the prosecution, but that won't last

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good morning and welcome back. this morning at wembley stadium in lofrn dondon, the saints too knee before the national anthem. three miami dolphins players also kneeled. it reached a flash point last weekend, but the story of how the national anthem came to be a staple in american sports goes back way further. francis scott key penned the lyrics to the star span gelled

banner after witnessing the american flag still flying over fort mchenry during the war of 1812. almost 100 years after that battle, president wood row will son declared the song the national anthem after his daughter margaret woodrow wilson recorded a popular rendition of the song in 1915. cracking the top 10 in sheet music sales. that is what you're hearing right now. three years later during game one of the world series, the red sox faced the cubs and more than 100,000 american soldiers had died in world war 1 oig. major league players were being drafted and people were weary and anxious. during the 7th inning stretch, the band struck up the star spangled banner and gave a

military salute. the crowd sang along and ending with thunderous applaud. and the tradition was born. though congress wouldn't pass a law making the star spangled banner the official national anthem until 1931 today it's the nfl's turn to use the anthem to stir up fervor in fans while the president has decided to make it all about him. joining me now is michelle bernard, hussein of forbes, martin lewis, david litt, and former nfl punter chris cluhy. chris, there is a bhs is who qu the use to stir up patriotic fervor, but also as a way of

professional sports leagues market themselves to fans. do players feel like they are in the midst of a marketing performance at that point or at this point is it just sort of, you know, a part the game? just from the players standpoint, does it feel like they are on display? >> from the players' standpoint, it very much was a part of just what you did as part of the game. we had it in our schedule an hour before the game, go out, warm up, come back inside to get your last stuff to get ready, go back out on ten minutes before to stand for the anthem and then play the game. and so i know it was part of the game, but i think we have to take a look at the inherent assumptions that lie within the national anthem where it is politicized. there are politics already in our sport when we nationalize the idea of sports, when we say you have to be a patriot to watch these games, that you have to salute for the flag, that is

taking us in a very fascist direction. >> and david, you worked for president obama who was constantly challenge d and his background. what do you make of the current president deciding to sort of wrap himself in the star spangled banner and take what is a protest about police brutality and turn it into a display of either total trumpian patriotism or, you know, against the united states? >> well, one of the reasons i wrote a book called thanks obama, i wanted to remember what it was like when a president knew his words mattered. president obama when he spoke about colin kaepernick and the nfl, he was very nuanced. he talked about how people on both sides must be frustrated, but that fundamentally the right to protest is an american right. and it's no surprise donald trump is not taking a nuanced approach.

the man has no capacity for nuance. but it's sad that he is making this about himself. it's sad that he is making the nfl and sports just another element in his culture war. and i think we see that time and time again with trump. we're seeing it in puerto rico. people are desperate there and for trump it's all about trump. it just comes down to is this good for trump, what can i say that will fire up my base. it's not right. >> and there is a political bible in a lot of ways and a piece says the president is manipulating the symbol of the flag and corresponding concept of patriotism as an extension of his power and that is about as unamerican as it gets. your thoughts. >> i also think he doesn't -- first of all, he doesn't understand why these people are protesting in the first place. and second of all, he doesn't understand the history and that this country is bimt not only the right of interlinked supppo

are. look at know ham apmed ali and relationships with malcolm x. so he is completely missing the point and also he's completely missing fact that not only do these players have the right to, but there is a history behind this as well. >> and my producer and i talked about doing this segment and the worry we had is that we don't want to join in the sort of public decision to make these protests about the flag. because it isn't. it is literally a protest which each of these players is saying there is another op-ed out by another player saying we want to have a conversation about police brutality. a wrong history of athletes using that moment whether raised fists or now to talk about an issue of importance to people of color. so what do you make of the idea that donald trump has managed to actually change the conversation? >> if there is anything that you can say donald trump does well, he gets an a g-plus for changin

every important conversation that we have. and i'll say just to anythingpi on it, i don't think it's demonstrating that he doesn't care. people say black people were not considered lazy until they decided to stop working for free. and black people are not considered to be unpatriotic until collin kaepernick decided to take a stand and saying that he is use the first amendment right that we all love to say that we will not stand for the murder of unarmed black men and black boys all over the country. and what hashappened is we see case after case where there are no convictions and the country has become numb to it. it's not at the top of the national discourse. i think it is an issue that is so absolutely important. and donald trump knows that and what he is telling the american public is this is my america.

remember during the mccain campaign, twla there was a commr who said the real virginia, he is saying this is the real america and your lives don't matter. >> and martin, i'm curious to know what you make of all of this as somebody born outside the united states and looking at it from a -- you can look at it from a more global perspective. >> the whole thing is really per bler plexing. there are 193 nations on this planet and citizens are all proud of their country. they are proud of nair makiflag. however practically alone amongst developed democracies, america is the only place where they use the national anthem every day practically for sporting events. it's like a super charge patriot inch as poe if you don't salute the flagging and anthem, there is something wrong, you're not supporting america. this is kind of crazy. so it goes bla s back to then. and there is also appreciation of the irony.

the me the melody was written by a british guy in 1776 and it's a drinking song and a song about womanizing. there is even a reference in the third verse to the yellow haired god and his nine maids. now, according to what the yellow haired gold told howard stern, it was more like 900 maids. put that to one side. the lyrics were written by a gentleman who was a slave owner. and his version of a solution to the problem of there being blacks in america was mass deportation to africa. so is it really appropriate that this song, which was only turned into the national anthem by congressional order in 1931, is our national anthem? perhaps it should be america the beautiful. or this land is your land.

these are beautiful songs. is it written in stone that we cannot change the national anthem? and last but not least, the third version of the star spangled banner which is not often sung, certainly not by roseanne barr we hope, the third verse has appalling references to slaves. and so maybe we should consider whether this is an appropriate anthem. >> it's interesting because at the time that the congress debated whether to make this executive order law, that was one of the debates and america the beautiful was one of the songs people said was easier to sing and just as popular. and chris, there is an aspect to it though that i wonder whether the athletes on the field are getting this dichotomy. that they are being made to be a part of a debate about patriotism. in whole thing of neeming before

the kneeling bfrt efore the anthem starts, the idea that the teams did enter into these deals that john mccain really criticized in 2015, they ended in 2015, to sort of do patriotic things during the game. do the players get that dichotomy between that and what the black players are saying they want to on protest about? >> i don't know that the majority of the players do. because for a lot of the players, i'm sure they want to stick together, they want to show that, hey, this is a brotherhood, we'll stand up for each other. but the fact remains that protests aren't supposed to be comfortable. protesting should be kneeling during the national an them, it should make people reexamine their pre-conceptions. and the fact that it's being shifted into this we're all in this together, we'll kneel beforehand and then stand with arms linked during it, it does a disservice to the original idea

of colin kaepernick's protest was which is to protest police brutality. right notice the social contract is not being upheld. there are american citizens that are not receiving the same rights as other american citizens. and that is what this protest is about. our country is supposed to be everyone has the same rights, everyone is treated equally. and until we reach that point, then we still have a lot of work to do. >> and these are businesses, the nba, nfl, major league baseball that indicator to a mass population. they don't want to offend any of their potential customers. you now have the nba which is actually if you look at donations to the left of the nfl, the nfl owners are far to the right, the nba has said there will be no protests at all by nba players or else. what do you make of that? >> i think that is what is so terrifying about trump. he really is a magician when it comes to this. not only detracting attention from what it's about, but where is america going wheern not allowed to speak our mind, we're

not allowed -- taking away the right to protest. and i was born in a country in bangladesh where this stuff can happen and the reason america is as great as we are is because you have the fundamental right to protest. so i think it's really terrifying with the controversy surrounding the nfl that now the nba is saying no protests. what is next? >> and david, i wonder if you -- sorry, go ahead. >> what is the country coming for when you look at the nba, you look at the nfl, you look at the overwhelming number of black athletes in these leagues and what the country is saying is to these big black burly member, beat yourself up on the football field, play basketball and shut up. that's all you are good for on. to entertain us. >> and i think donald trump would concur with that message. >> and they are being portrayed as ungreat follow how much money they are being paid completely

missing the point. >> and david, if barack obama were there, not to make everyone in the audience wistful and cry, but if barack obama were still there, how do you think he would respond to this same moment that we're having, this debate? >> well, i can tell you how i would respond if i was asked to write a speech about something like this. because i think what we would be looking for is a way to get above the controversy of the moment, totally the opposite of trump where he dives into the controversy, the shorts term. we would be thinking what is the big picture here, how are we really more united than we think. and the truth is sports can unite us. when president trump welcomed sports teams to the white house, it wasn't because they supported him or didn't support him, it was because he knew that these were american moments whereas fans we don't have to be democrats or republicans, and we would look for examples of players who were giving back off the field trying to help their communities. showing that it doesn't allege have to be about politics. you can help your community as a democrat, a republican.

this isn't about party. and i think that is one of the things that if i were sitting down and working on a speech about this, that is what i'd be thinking about. how can we be more unified. because i bet there are plenty of people who love the national anthem and enjoy it at games, but also say kneeling at the national anthem is just as american as playing the national anthem. >> and martin, it is difficult to unpack what all of this means for everyone else, but counselido you think we might be going back to an age without the president trump exhibiting that kind of moral leadership, are we starting to see the resumption of athletes as moral leaders? >> certainly one thing that i find admirable is that when sports players actually are doing snag is not for their own personal benefit, none of the players who have taken the knee are doing it for their financial benefit. it's not like a politician who

might propose a tax reform that would give $750 million benefit to his family. it's not for personal gain. and i'm reminded of this thing when they keep invoking the flag and national anthem, it's to understand that the flag and national anthem are not the things they said, they are symbols. and i'm reminded of a great line in that movie a few good men where a marine is being disho r dishonorably discharged and the tom cruise character says you don't need to wear a patch on your arm to have honor. you don't need to sing a song or salute a flag to have honor. and those who are saluting in their own way the fight for racial justice, for civil rights, those are core american values. and using-the first amendment gives them that. so i think it's disgusting that you have this sense of division that prevents people or attacks people for doing what i think is patriotic, indeed to attack them

is in itself unamerican. >> well said. we'll leave it right there. thank you all very much. up next, the president of the united states, is he violating the first amendment? my next guest says yes, he is. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free. it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. try super poligrip free.

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wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field now, he's fired. he's fired! >> donald trump has been attacking nfl players for protesting against police brutality for more than a week now. taking a break only to attack american citizens in puerto ricos who are struggling to recover from a devastating

hurricane. my next guest says he might be violating the first amendment. lawrence tribe is joining me now. constitutional law professor. you tweeted earlier this week the first amendment applies to potus who urged nfl to punish those who don't stand and salute. president trump violated the first amendment. explain how what he said wasn't actually him exercising the first amendment. >> well, as an individual, he can say whatever he wants and tweet all kinds of stuff. but he is standing behind the seal of the president of the united states. and he is using the office of president, i would say abusing it, in order to pressure the nfl to impose a rule like the one the nba has and in fact to fire players for exercising their free speech rights. now when the nba does it, that is disgusting. it misses the point of our free

society, but it is not a violation of the first amendment because the first amendment only applies to government. but whatever else he is, donald trump is speaking for the government when he puts pressure on the nfl and the nfl relies on the government for all kinds of things. it's subject to the antitrust laws. he is not just expressing some wish that he has. he is twisting their arms in order for them to twist the arms of the players. and that is as unamerican as anything. in fact -- well, go ahead. >> go on. >> one of the most important decisions in the history of our supreme court that all nine of today's justices endorse and that justice scalia endorsed was a case in which little school kids were forced to stand and salute the flag, say the pledge of allegiance. it didn't happen to involve the

national anthem. but when the supreme court said that they couldn't be pressured to do that, it said that if there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official can specify what shall be orthodox in matters of politics, religion and opinion. and that is exactly what trump is trying to do. i care about the flag deeply. my dad was prisoner of war of the japanese in world war ii and he hid an american flag in his trunk and when he died, my mom gave it to me. i revere that flag. but i radevere the freedom for which it stands and that is what donald trump is doing his fwobe to extinguish.

>> i want to move on to another aspect of donald trump. and there is a lawsuit that his lawyers are trying to get thrown out of court and this is an emole uhements claw fileded by the attorney generals of maryland and washington, d.c. and this is requiring the trump hotel where you have public officials checking in, where you have foreign dignitaries and officials checking in, where you just had kneneil gorsuch give a speech. your thoughts on all of that. >> well, as far as what neil gorsuch did, i don't think it was a very wise or tasteful thing, but not unconstitutional. but it is a violation of the constitution's anti-rupcorrupti

clauses. for the president to have he's hotels and other places that suck in donations and contributions to his personal wealth from among other things foreign governments and i'm one of the lawyers suing him in the social district of new york and the oral argument is right around the corner on october 18th. and the government's arguments for dismissing it are shall we say not very convincing. now, i'm not objective, but as a law professor, i wouldn't give them a very high grade. >> we can't wait to see that case go forward and we'll definitely be following it. lawrence tribe, thank you very much. >> thank you. still to come, my interview with actor chadwick bozeman on the upcoming movie marshall.

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it may lead to oir beingther be tiflts, as well. so i doubt he's looking forward to it. >> and it's not just one person. you had the epa scott pruitt who took a chartered military flight. you have the interior secretary ryan zinke kzinke. even the v.a. secretary got in on the game. >> a lot of vets that went. >> of course. he went to watch the tennis. i mean it's a narrative now. >> actually what is fascinating about this is a lot of those folks are veterans of elected politics including price and zinke. so you would think if you've been around politics, you would have at least some sort of an instinct about what not do. so what is that dynamic? they go into the trump administration and they began to behave in this way. where did they get the idea --

[ everybody talking at once ] >> what you clearly see is these guys looking around going hey, let the good times roll. the swamp has not been drained, just restocked with a new group of lid arrestzard people. but it is remarkable that these folks who have been around so long and there is a narrative, it is the let them eat cake narrative which is particularly ironic for an administration that claims to be populist. >> and usually if you have covered local politics, you get this scandal in every city, but it's usually people who didn't have money who are suddenly wining and dining with lobbyists and this world of opportunity and privilege and they indulge. but trump hired other billionaires and millionaires. mnuchin wofrth $385 million. you go on and on. these are wealthy already. is it just because donald trump is living high on the hog why

can't we? >> yeah, if the boss can do it, why conditioan't we. can you imagine if let's say kathleen sebelius former hhs second had done what tom price did? oh, my goodness, it would have been hearings upon hearings from the republican party in congress. so it is just mind blowing. so not only are these cabinet secretaries unqualified, they are underperformed. now they are waigs taxpayers' money on joy rides. that is exactly what is happening. >> and remember, how much attention was placed on the cost of the obama trips around this. >> absolutely. the golfing. hawaii. >> and now you are getting six figure bills to the taxpayers for the kids to go skiing. >> insane. >> donald trump's mantra for years for decades was opm. other people's money.

he was able to con and swindle and dwins other baconvince othe institutions to give him money and even when he went bankrupt, he still walked away with oodles of money while other people had to take the haircut including people who worked for him, contractors and workers who he screwed outright. so the fact that they come in and they feel entitled, these are entitled people feel more sbiblgtsed, and there is a policy component to this. while they are doing this, they are putting out a tax cut proposal that 80% of the gain from the tax cut will go to the top 1%. and then even some people in the $45,000 to $60,000 will wind up paying more. >> might be a good day for donald trump to release his taxes. donald trump is the worst possible salesman for tax reform and steve mnuchin is like hold my beer. >> and not only that, but the point you were making about donald trump including a $32

million bill that the puerto rican taxpayers had to have when he said he was going to save this golf course and failed and it so even he's saying that the puerto rican people are takers essentially, but he stuck them with a $32 million bill. and i'm wondering because at the same time that you do have this optical problem within the republican sort of establishment no now, c.h.i.p. has expired. >> it's gone. >> this tax bill going to cut very wealthy people's taxes and raise poor people he's taxes. how can the republican party sustain this? >> about how did that expiration of c.h.i.p., how did it foe under tu go under the radar screen? i don't know that the republicans want to own the loss of that.the radar screen? i don't know that the republicans want to own the loss of that. did anybody stand up and say we should let this expire? but it happened. >> this is where you have ryan and mcconnell yet again in the

shadows not dealing with the legislative business at hand. you had ryan in the middle of the puerto rico stuff saying trump's lead is exactly the leadership that we need. and it seems that they will do anything to not aggravate him and to not raise any other issues if they can get their tax bill passed. they don't even care about obamacare repeal. >> but it didn't work. one of the reasons that we can all probably argue and rightly so that tom price was let go was because that was the face of health care and he couldn't repeal aca. so donald trump yes fired him because he -- not because of ethics but because he couldn't get it done. and that was part of getting to the tax cut. i mean that was what repealing a skrch skrchlt ca was all about. so republicans have been complicit from the beginning. >> but the question -- and i have to go to charlie.

you wrote a great cover. insane in the membrane. had to say it because it's a great song from the 90s [']. and when you are talking about donald trump, but listen donald trump didn't sxits inexist in a. there are millions of voters who like what he is doing, who accept what he is doing, who affirm what he is doing. at some point does the spotlight need to turn from donald trump's insane membrane to look at, well, who is suchltiis supporti? >> at a certain point -- donald trump is donald trump. he's 70 years old, an erratic narcissist. but you take that frame and you turn it around to what is he doing to the rest of us. what is he doing to the conservative moment and the republican party who are the people who are enabling him who are rationalizing this behavior. who are people that look at his behavior and go i'm okay with that. >> or i like it. >> and this is where even after -- to a certain september

he extent he is the president who they deserve, but after he departs the scene, the impact on the culture will remain there, the stain will stay. >> and roy moore is an example of it. >> the republican party has become a party where voters go for erratic and extreme choices. and not just trump. >> and now they have a bigot. >> that was fun. we could do it all day, but we have to go to break. coming up, latest reaction to the new tweets calling negotiations with north korea a waste of time. my experience with usaa has been excellent.

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you go into these towns. you needs to be careful. >> naacp. >> negro search tax socialite. >> showing the world if a colored man can get a fair trim in t trial. >> only 13 million knee gross ghending on you. >> don't you have any confidence in me? >> i'd say you have enough confidence for us all. >> thurgood marshall like you've never seen before. it chronicles a pivotal case in his career before he won the case ending segregation and long before he came to the high court's first african-american justice 50 years ago. recently i had a chance to talk to the actor portraying mar sham, chadwick bozeman. what is interesting about marshall as opposed to some of the other work is that it's not the story people expect.

people would expect to be here is the entirety of his life, here is brown versus board. this is actually a courtroom drama. did that intrigue you about the film? >> when i read the skriptcript, main thing about it is that i knew didn't have to know who thurgood mar sham was in order to watch this movie. and i think that is a great thing for an audience member to know that like i can come into this without any prior idea of who this man is. and enjoy the movie and later to have a greater appreciation for him, you know, knowing all of the stuff that he did. but it's a western. he's not just thurgood marshall, he is the marshal coming into town to implement justice. it's a who done it, a cop movie in a way even though they aren't cops. it has the feeling of the guy who only works alone because

thurgood marshall was at this particular time in the naacp, he was the only attorney going around deeming with all of these cases because that is what theg the budget allowed the naacp to do. just seeing the beginnings of him bringing other attorneys in to work on these cases with him in various places throughout the country. sam friedman represents that. but it was all these various different types of movies not -- it wasn't written like a biopic. >> the other thing that is intriguing to me. i'm a history buff people find stories that we didn't hear about. this is not supreme court thurgood marshall and the case isn't in the south. a black man accused of rape and facing all that that meant in that period. we'll talk about the 1940s. but it's in the north. how does that change the story

telling when you're talking about a narrative that is going to make people uncomfortable because it's not about the typical southerners versus african-americans. >> well, you can't, you can't hide from it in the same way. you know, if it was the tobacco chewing sheriff and you know the fat judge with the dog and all of that stuff. you would know exactly what that is. you'd be like, i can separate myself from that or that was a different time period. but because it's the north. it is very similar to the racism that we experience today because it is hidden. it is masked by housing and masked by, you know, in this case, it's not just white/black racism. sam friedman is experiencing the fact that he is not a part of the club as a jewish american. and he's comfortable with that until he meets thurgood

marshall. so, you see how the north sort of hid its racism and that's similar to what we experience today. it's different worlds. we live in a race-free society. like we think just because we had a black president that all that's done now. people look at the advancements that african-americans have made and they think all of that is in the past. and they're just witnessing, you know, some that came to the top, not the countless neighborhoods that have basically situations in schools that are still not up to par. so, all of that is, you know, why this movie rings true right now. >> you have been very vocal, even in talking about the current president we have, donald trump. and saying, either you take the criticism or don't be president. do you feel that artists such as yourself are put in position where people such as donald

trump also like your movies and do you find yourself in that sort of michael jordan position where you're saying, i don't necessarily want to offend that part of my audience or do you feel it is your responsibility to communicate to that audience, as well? >> if you're offended, you're guilty. i feel like i haven't said anything to make an audience member say i'm not going to his movies. i have a right to criticize the president. i'll criticize him right now. like, in fact, you know to say we would defend ourself against north korea, i understand that. i don't understand saying, i will totally destroy this country. that's not presidential. >> i have to do one more political question. you are an alumnist of howard university and a protest against jim comey when you went down. one might argue that comey is trying to be a positive voice when it comes to policing.

how hard is it do you think, as a young black man yourself to have these conversations around race. is it depressing that we still can't seem to have them in a comfortable way? >> i don't even think about it that way. if i think about how you know how much time has passed and how much things have changed i can think about it in that perspective, but also a very young nation. and as much as people are like making america great again, you can always do better. i can always be a better actor. i can always be a better person. so, america has never been as great as it should be. so, you know, i don't feel like i'm tired of talking about it if it's not done. it has to be done. it has to be fixed. >> lastly, to come back to "marshall" anything that doing this film taught you? >> well, every chaerracter i ev

played taught me something. for me, the greatest thing that i look at when i look at thurgood marshall is the comfortability, the comfortability that he had. you know, he was in harlem. he was amongst some of the greatest artists of that time. during a renaissance. and he chose to leave that comfortability and go around the nation and fight injustice. and that is, that's not just an admirable thing. he just puts a fire under you to make sure that you know that you do certain things a certain way and that things have a meaning. like i don't want to be doing films that don't have meaning or that push the envelope forward.

you know, it's my desire to always be working on something that means something. >> chadwick bo boseman, i'm gla you did a film like this because that's going to be off the chain. i had to add that in. thank you so much, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. "marshall" opens in theaters on october 12th. check it out. coming up, more "am joy." your brain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change,

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good day to all of you. i'm alex witt. it's high noon just about here in the east. 9:00 a.m. out west. here's what's happening. breaking news, tweets from the president about north korea and, gee, i forgot to talk about that. they seem at odds with what the secretary of state suggested just yesterday. we have those details in just a moment. the latest numbers on puerto rico reflecting the toll of human suffering. where the recovery effort stands. is the aid reaching those who need it the most? also a new statement from the nfl about the anthem controversy. will we see more players take a knee today? we'll show you what happened so far at a game overseas. behind bars no longer. the call to keep o.j. simpson out of florida hours after his release from a nevada prison. let's go right to nbc kelly o'donnell about 15 minutes or so away from the president's