tv Deadline White House MSNBC October 3, 2017 1:00pm-2:00pm PDT
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hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york, 1:00 in las vegas where we're waiting for an update into the investigation into the worst mass shooting in modern american history. but first, president trump is in puerto rico today, more than two weeks after hurricane maria devastated the u.s. virgin islands and two days after president trump scolded the governor of san juan. president trump told puerto ricans to feel very proud that they hadn't suffered as many deaths as those he described as a real tragedy hurricane katrin katrina. >> i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you've thrown our budget a little bit out of whack, because we have spent a lot of money on puerto rico, and that's fine, we have saved a lot of lives. if you look at the -- every
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death is a horror. but if you look at a real controversy like katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here with really a storm that was just totally overbearing, nobody's ever seen anything like this, what is your death count as of this moment, 17? >> 16. >> 16 people certified. 16 people versus in the thousands. you can be very proud of all of your people, all of our people working together. 16 versus literally thousands of people. >> a source close to this white house told me today that the president's delayed reaction to the crisis in puerto rico was a combination of the president's waning interest in hurricane response after hurricanes harvey and irma and a general disregard for that which takes place off the main land and in a place where he doesn't have a lot of political support. joining our panel today, new
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york city, counsel speaker melissa mrarito, elise jordan i an msnbc political contributor. and with us from washington, "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker. melissa, let me start with you, and let me put up for our viewers some of the images that are starting to come out of the president's, i guess, 5 1/2 hours in puerto rico. there he is, tossing single rolls of, maybe, bounty or viva paper towel into a crowd of people on an island where 95% of its citizens don't have power, i think 85% of people in puerto rico don't have cell phone service, and there he is with single rolls of bounty. what do you think? >> it just speaks to this not understanding or wanting to understand, empathy, if anything
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that is what we would have wanted to see in the president visiting puerto rico right now is some level of understanding and putting himself in the shoes of people who are suffering now. there are areas of the island that have not seen feela or any so sort of relief workers. so the lack of making this other than about himself, it always comes back making it about himself in some ways, how great the response is, how much accolades he's been getting from the representatives, it's all about him and this is not what we want to see, i think it's denigrating, it's dismissive and it's making lite of an incredibly unfortunate situation. >> we watched as the mayor of san juan, literally begging, for someone, anyone, to help her cut through the binders, she had the
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binders of papers she had to fill out to receive aid from fema. he got into a war of words with her over the weekend and attacked her, suggesting that her pleas and her critiques were politically motivated. >> and the words he's been using about ingrates, that somehow we should be accepting and happy at the little that has been offered to us, again, there's inequity in the way this response has been treated as opposed to the response in other situations. >> talk about that. >> when you talk about harvey in texas and irma in florida, you had about 40,000 workers on the ground in florida. and to this day, i don't even think we top 15,000 on the ground in puerto rico, when you're talking 100 miles by 35 miles, so you don't have enough personnel on the ground to get that relief out into the mountains and areas that are more remote. so he's try to be paint a picture which is not reality. those reporters on the ground
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have encountered what he's -- somehow that we should be so grateful for the crumbs that are being thrown at us, and we have more dignity than that. and the mayor of san juan is representing the indignation and the concern and the outrage of the puerto rican people. the representatives around that people with donald trump today in puerto rico were not expressing the outrage, she is the voice of the outrage on the island and that is why he's attacking her. >> we ran, while you were talking, we ran some video of her, she did meet with him today, i presume that's on behalf of the people she represents and getting the aid she needs. but can you talk about obviously in this country, we have had to also cover a mass shooting and a tragedy in las vegas, but can you just bring us -- we haven't talked to you since friday's hour, can you just talk about the reality right now, today, this hour in puerto rico, 14 days after a storm hit the
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island in american territory? >> again, we still don't have enough personnel, even the three-star general who is on the ground has said that himself, that there are not resources and personnel to handle the crisis that exists there. so it is really still a rough time, people do not have consistent access to food, food is being rationed in the case of supermarkets, et cetera. 95% of the island does not have elect tris, cell service is spotty. so it is still a dire situation and, yes, the issue of gun violence in general is something we have to address in this country, and definitely my thoughts are with the families and all of the people who have been impacted. and we deal with the gun violence unfortunately every day. but the issue of puerto rico's not going away any time soon. and that's something we need to get attention to. >> the mayor tweeted, the mayor
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that you describe is accurately speaking for the indignation of people on the island. she wrote in the last hour, meeting with the white house staff productive, they really understand the disconnect between how things are supposed to happen and how they really happen. hopefully the newly open channels of communication with white house staff will put in motion what is needed to accomplish our goal, save lives. general kelly, i think we have a picture of him leaning over and whispering in the president's ear during that meeting, where there were some advisor around the table and reporters around the table who were reporting on mostly things have gone well. and we have seen that in cabinet meetings, where the president goes around the table and likes to hear positive feedback from his own employees. i wonder if you think things will be sugarcoated because of his insatiable desire for positive job reviews. >> it's just incredible that
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we're living this moment, that you have to tiptoe and figure out how you continue to stroke that fragile ego because you're afraid of what the consequences may be otherwise. the mayor of san juan, i believe that it was based on her outrage that we are seeing the level of response change from the white house. that is my opinion and that's the way i see it. because now we have seen a real sea change and it's after her press conferences and the attention she brought to the issue. again, i really think there's too many people around him and some of the leadership on the island who's too concerned about stroking the president, saying everything is okay, things are going well, and it's not, and they need to be able to stand up and say that it isn't and they need to be able to get the attention that the island needs at this time. >> you're one of the narrators of modern history, and you put words to moments in a way that not many others do. and moment s present presidents
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with opportunities and challenges sand i'm thinking obviously the president i worked for was george bush, his first trip after 9/11 and president obama channeling the grief and horror after newtown and before that ronald reagan's speech about the challenge or tragedy. this president facing a humanitarian crisis in puerto rico, traveling to the island 14 days later, and having everyone go around the horn and single out that which is going well seems to be an exercise in, one, a white house staff that cannot for bid that which isn't constructive in a moment that has nothing to do with president trump. it also seems to be an exercise in responding as melissa said, to press accounts. i mean he attacked the mayor of san juan because she was dominating and changing the coverage of this crisis, she was
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sounding the alarm, she was jumping up and down in such a devastatingly human way that it got all of our attention and that bothered him. >> there's a modern extra constitutional function for the president for which the president has no aptitude and that is the pastoral function. it probably began long before bill clinton said i feel your pain. it began with franklin roosevelt began a fire side chat, my friends. no one before that ever thought that a president was anybody's friend, nobody expected coolidge or william howard taft or any other president to have technology that makes intimacy possible. these are all living room presidents, they're always in our living room every night at the dinner hour. and this president doesn't have any aptitude, i don't know yes his aptitude for the presidency is, but it's not there, certainly. >> does he have any? >> it's escaped notice so far.
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>> you could be a diplomat in this administration, because you're like a surgeon with your strike. elise jordan, let me ask you about this idea of presidents and moments. and this president had an opportunity today to display a capacity for someone else being the story, for the people of puerto rico being the story. for the mayor of san juan being the story, for the people to whom relief has not yet reached be the story, for people who can't get refrigeratored items in the grocery store. for the people who can't goet medicines for the people who are sick, this is the presidents day. >> the image you take away from his visit to puerto rico, is him throwing paper towels to an audience of struggling, desperate people. and for me, that's kind of a metaphor for how he operates in general, he really wants to pit people against one another and
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bring out the divisions and you see, he can't help himself, evening wheven when he's in a situation where he's supposed to be the one bringing us together, he does the opposite. >> i think he's almost treating it kind of like a joke. i'm going to give the president the benefit of the doubt on the budget comment. he was teeing that up to be funny, he was trying to be funny saying that puerto rico had thrown the american budget out of wham. but he short of chuckled and i see him there throwing the paper towels and it reminds me of that press conference he did at mar-a-lago during the campaign, he had all these products behind him. it's a better news for that the fake news has been telling you, these people look quite happy, they look quite well and thigh like me. and we saw them out on the street, it's a bit like that cabinet meeting you talked be
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it. where people are making a point, there's a mayor there, a man saying, yes, thank you, you've done a good job. i think that's why the president went to puerto rico, he went to show people that actually he was, you know, still liked, he's doing a good job and to convince his base that he's still an effective president. i don't think he went there really thinking about the people of puerto rico and how the effort's going. >> peter baker, i heard from a source today in regular contact with this white house that part of the explanation for the delayed response by the entire administration, including the president was one that he had sort of tired of hurricane response, that he had played first responder, first in houston and then in florida, he had done that already, this doesn't interest him. and then an acknowledgement from this source at least that this was a place far away in his mind and we have heard him describe it as an island in the middle of a very, very big ocean. and just a window into maybe how
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he sees it and as well as a group of people that by and large weren't his political backers. you and i talked yesterday with brian williams but how he roots for he and she who roots for him, but we don't have a lot of examples of him understanding that the american presidency, after election day is about becoming someone who represents all people. my position, my judgment in watching this display today is that he failed that test. but he has another opportunity at being examined on those marks tomorrow. and i'm wondering what you're hearing from white house sources how he prepared for that test and whether they think he passed it today? >> that's a good question, and you're exactly right, the thing that made him popular during the campaign, they were competition, they were fighting, fisticuffs essentially, with opponents, with getting an upper hand, they were not the skill set that you
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needed in this few days, which is to say a healer, a hand holder, a comforter, even a spiritual leader to some extent at a moment of crisis for the country, a moment of multiple crises for the country. yesterday when he gave his talk after the shooting in las vegas from the white house and he read from the well prepared script and he stuck to it. he came across well, he said the things you would normally hear a president say, it's when he doesn't have a script in front of him, when he sort of retreats to his sort of pattern as an ad hoc speaker, that he doesn't have the experience that we have expected from ronald reagan and bill clinton, wilson all the way back to fdr, that's sometimes a learned skill, we'll see if he does, tomorrow is another opportunity, as you say, it's a different opportunity, one that in some ways is politically fraught in a different way.
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tomorrow it's a political fraught moment because it's also going to be about policy, what does the country do going forward? is there a debate to be had about gun control or other policies, what can we learn from this terrible or ordeal? >> do you also recognize, i think peter was describing the inner monologue that comes out of donald trump's mouth when he's not reading from a teleprompter. i also hear a great ignorance of history. >> that's right. i mean i don't think he has a real sense of the office and his predecessors in the office and how technology, lord knows those on twitter understand this, how technology has changed the expectations of the office. but i just think he's at sea in a case like this. but he doesn't know he's at sea. we have worn out the word narcissist the last nine months,
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but it still fits. >> any final thoughts before we turn to our other tragedy in the spotlight? >> i think the other thing that needs to be spoken about is his inability in any way to be respectful to people that don't look like him. when you talk about puerto rico and you talk about the u.s. virgin islands, we're people of color and we are in some cases obviously low income as well. and he does not -- he has a true disconnect, somehow any sort of assistance that's provided to us is a handout, it's charity, as opposed to us meriting it that we deserve it. someone who has availed himself to bankruptcy how many times over at the expense of others and making it seem that somehow we're on the dole and we're costs america money. he did not do that with texas, he did not do that with florida there's a real, real difference here about how he interacts with
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communities of color and low income communities, that is a reality. >> that is something you hear that people can't believe that under this presidency all of our racial strife is sort of thrust on to the national stage, that people didn't understand america was still in this place in the year 2017. >> i was speaking earlier today with governor tom keane who's dealt with donald trump for years and years and year, he said, look, the man i knew wasn't racist, he introduced me to al sharpton and he didn't actually think that the president, he said it would never have occurred to me that donald trump was racist or would be racist. i think it's about this question of reaction, what matters to the president is the reaction he gets from the people in the room and if he goes to a big rally in alabama, and throws out a line that might be racially divisive and he gets a good response to that, he's going to play that line again.
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i think the puerto rico thing, it's an island that he doesn't even think about, that had not registered because they didn't vote for him and it's far away and he didn't think about it and he was done with hurricanes. i can well believe that. >> we're going to pick this up on the other side, but now we're going to las vegas where authorities are giving an upgait update on that deadly mass shooting. >> we're not going to show any video. all right, good afternoon, everybody, you're all aware of who i am, sheriff joe lombardo, clark county, there's going to be a little bit of a difference in this press conference as compared to the rest. i think it's important that we address the victim issues we are experiencing and the resource issues that we're experiencing. so i'm going to key on that. on the original portion of this. and then subsequently the commissioner is going to provide
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some donation information, an acknowledgement and after that i will come back to the podium and address the overall investigation, where we stand and where we are going. now reference to the investigation piece, i don't want to repeat of what i experienced yesterday, it's an ongoing investigation. so i will be limited in the details that i provide you. but hopefully we can get through this with some modicum of decor rum. so please, don't rough me all at once when we get to the question phase, i will identify you if you just raise your hand. sound fair? all right, we'll get through this. okay, so as a matter of formality, our department has worked overnight to identify all the victims of sunday evening's mass shooting at the route 93 festival. we have an active scene at the grounds near mandalay bay.
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the fbi is working diligently to clear that scene. so the question is, the fbi versus us. we have partnered with the fbi as i said, from the very beginning of this, in an investigative phase, the fbi has brought a large amount of resources out of washington, d.c. to assist us with that. so we, the reason why the harvest festival is still in continuation of investigation is not only solely related to the removal of the victims, but is also documentation of the scene. so we're using the best practice technology to ensure that we have complete documentation. that's why it's taking a longer period of time associated with this. so we ask for everybody's patience, as far as las vegas boulevard north and south, we anticipate to be open shortly,
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in the next few hours, to benefit from commerce and what we do as a community. all right, the key component here is resources and victim identification. so bear with me, i'm going to try to get through this the best i can, but the important piece is, if you missed a number, we are putting up on lbmpd.com in the next hour, a list of all numbers i shall provide you today and for people out in the public to contact us if they are lacking this or they don't see this broadcast. okay, we're asking for anyone who might have information about the shooting in a criminal capacity, or is a victim of the shooting to contact us via 311. if you are out of state, if you have left since the shooting, and you have discovered you feel that you have become a victim or you realize you have an injury associated to it, we're still
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asking you to contact us, but the out of state number will be 702-828-3111. additionally, if you are local and you have the ability to respond to a local substation, a working police substation, locals are familiar with, you have the ability to file a report at that location. now the family reunification. all that is occurring at the family resource center at the convention center located at 3150, you can go there and have contact with the coroner's office, you can go there to get answers to your questions as far as family reunification. the phone number, if you have left the area, is
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1-866-535-5654. we went through a little short process here recently where that number was down, we provided a separate number, but we will go back to that original number when we have the technical aspect of that fixed. i want to be very clear on the difference, if you are reporting a crime, or you feel you are a victim of a crime, 311 is your outlet. or the local police substation. if you are looking for victim information, or family reunification, the family resource center on paradise road is your point of contact. now personal property, we're getting several questions throughout yesterday and continuing today on people attempting to recover their personal property from the route 91 scene. we are working out the details of that. we are in the planning phase of
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that and we will have an answer for that in the next couple hours. so lbmpd.com will provide an answer to that, probably before we have another press conference. but we are working diligently to get individuals who left personal property at the scene back to them as soon as possible. i anticipate it will not take place at the route 91 location, but i do not want to give you furtherance of clarification at this point, so you will be provided that. the other issue is donations. as you can imagine, in any critical incident, the outpouring of support from private citizens, corporations, and everybody else associated with concern for the victims is overwhelming. and we appreciate that. but there comes a point where we can't manage it. now the red cross is unable to manage it, we are unable to manage it at the substations.
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so if it's hard goods such as water or canned goods or stuff that will not become perishable, three square and catholic charities is accepting those donations. so we're asking you to provide that information to your listening public and to accept donations at that point. so areas of -- and let me give you the addresses for those. so catholic charities is obviously at 1501 las vegas boulevard north and 3190 north pecos road. at this point i will acquiesce to commissioner sis land he wile you an update as far as victim satisfaction and then we will conduct a q&a associated with
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the investigation. commissioner? >> thank you, sheriff and we appreciate you being here today so that we can give you an update. the fund that the sheriff and i set up yesterday has now surpassed $3.7 million as we speak. we need a lot move resources, we need a lot more money, we have individuals that are going to be needing further surgery. and not including in that total of $3.7 million. last night a private citizen called the sheriff and i and contributed $500,000 to the fund. that is not included in the total this morning. wayne and kathleen newton have called and have donated $370,000. those that do not want to do it on gofundme, you can make a check to the county victims fund. but i just got off the phone
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with jim from mgm international, the sheriff and i both spoke to jim and obviously they have stepped up in an enormous manner wi for this community. and on behalf of mgm, they have contributed $3 million to this fund. so we appreciate everyone's support, the donations from $5 to now $3 million and there's a lot of need and we are going to do everything we possibly can to raise money for each of these individuals. so we appreciate you continuing to encourage evacuation your viewers and readers to continue to support las vegas victims on gofundme or the las vegas victims fund. we're working through the possible distribution, we have already got some inquiries, i think it's going to be a few days before we can coordination
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how we can distribute money. we are not responding to the personal losses, backpacks and shoes and phones, we're looking at more major expenses, surgeries, medical expenses, funeral expenses, transportation expenses and so forth. we're working through the county and sheriff's offices to determine something in the immediate future to determine where people can go to start distributing the money to the people that are most desperate. so thank you very much. >> just a quick synopsis, sand i won't reiterate what we discussed yesterday in previous press conferences. but we have completed the investigation at the reno property. and i'm sure the question will be presented what was recovered there. so there was numerous electronic items, additionally five handguns and two shotguns and a plethora of ammunition.
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so we have search warrants at three separate locations that would be the room at the mandalay bay, the mesquite location and the reno location, additionally, we served a search warrant on the suspect's vehicle located at the mandalay bay. so i'm happy to answer any questions -- >> sheriff? >> yes, sir. >> can you be specific about the modifications to the weapon that made it an automatic? do you have an idea of what that was? >> the question was what are the modifications associated with the weaponry, atf is participating in that evaluation. i can't give you an answer on whether any of them are automatic or not. but we are aware of a device called a bump stock. and that enables an individual to speed up the discharge of ammunition. i don't want to give you anymore details than that, but in partner with the fbi, the atf,
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they're send iing them to the crime lab for evaluation. [ inaudible ] >> no, we don't have that information yet. but i will assure you that the investigation with her is ongoing and we anticipate some information here from her shortly. >> we have information regarding $200,000 -- >> no, ma'am, i do not. here you go. just let me back up a little bit. there's a lot of information i do know, okay, but it's an ongoing investigation and when i say i do not know, i may know, but as you can imagine, in a criminal investigation, we want to ensure the continued safety
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of our community and that all those questions are answered and we, i assure you, this investigation is not ended with the demise of mr. paddock. yes? >> could you give us an update if there is an up date on the visibilities and also is there anything new that. [ inaudible ] progress [ inaudible ] >> no, i'll answer your last question first, no. we are making progress, but i don't have complete answers yet. so i anticipate substantial amount of information to come in in the next 48 hours. hold on, let me finish the rest of it. as far as the injuries. it goes across the board. the coroner commented on that yesterday, we have trampled injure rirs, we have people trying to escape, injuries of
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their own device, we have gunshot wounds, so if you're looking at total type of injuries associated with all the injuries and the people that died, it goes across the board. i can't give you a percentage of gunshot versus other types of injuries. >> are the numbers 59 dead and 500 injured? have those changed? >> we believe the injury number has decreased slightly. and when i say slightly, maybe 20 because we had a double count error occurring at one of the hospitals. but we're looking at still in close proximity the number i provided you. [ inaudible ] >> i can't tell you her current whereabouts right now, all i know is the philippines and we are in conversation. >> is she a suspect? >> currently she's a person of interest. the girlfriend.
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>> are you going to release photos that show the hotel room after the s.w.a.t. team entered, and it showed guns, shou s haven these photos and can the news outlets release them? >> i'm very troubled by them. we have an internal investigation as we speak as to how those photos were obtained by the public. >> it you talked about what was found inside the hotel room that the gunman used, specifically cbs news reported that there were cameras inside that room. was the gunman reporting, was the gunman transmitting that those photos anywhere? >> there were cameras outside of
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the room and inside of the room alongside of the firearms. i anticipate he was looking for anybody coming to take him into custody. >> so essentially you have a recording of him carrying out this carnage? >> no, that's essentially not what i'm saying, that is being evaluated. the fbi took all digital and electronic evidence into custody and we are evaluating. >> do you know if this man was targeting this particular event or did he have in mind perhaps another event coming up as a possible target? >> no, we haven't developed that yet. i will provide you that information at a later date. >> to follow on that, there are reports that the target was -- >> we're unable to confirm that. we're unable to confirm that.
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[ inaudible ] >> what's the clarity you're seeking? >> i'm trying to get a sense of what time the shots rang out. >> we received a call at 10:08 p.m., the best of our estimates and video review, he continued to fire at a progressive and successive rate for approximately nine minutes, as you can see, by any video you see in the public space, it was hard to determine where they were coming from. once it was evaluated it was coming from the mandalay bay, as you can imagine, how hard it would be to pinpoint the room from the outside. officers subsequently teamed up and moved over to the mandalay bay in order to locate and engage.
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but that was in conjunction with the mandalay bay security. now this is an opportunity for me to tell you something. the mandalay bay security was fantastic. i don't want anybody assuming that they are unsafe by, you know, staying at one of our hotels. we would not have engaged this individual in the time lapse that we did without their assistance. we received information via their dispatch center and/or their operations center, their call center, from individuals staying within the mandalay bay that helped us locate where this individual was sequestered. hold on, i want to finish her question, all right? and so subsequently, that takes time. as you can imagine, moving from the location of the event, deciding whether you're going to help victims evacuate or you're going to decide whether you're going to take charge and put an element together and go engage
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this individual. so we have a lot of by fur indication of this event. we're putting an element together, let's go engage this individual and locate them. and that's what we did. when the security officer was engaged by the suspect, we backed off from immediate apprehension and sw.w.a.t. team form and made entry. >> what time did the s.w.a.t. team make entry? >> i don't have that information. [ inaudible ] >> absolutely concerned, the world has changed and who would have ever imagined this situation? i couldn't imagine it, and for this individual to take it mon himself to create this chaos and harm is unspeakable. we have to try to spitball or what if these situations at all
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points when we train and ensure that we have proper response and i think we did a fantastic job. >> so sheriff, mandalay bay security identified the room before s.w.a.t. arrived? >> no, well, yeah, before s.w.a.t. arrived, but not before my officers arrived. they were married or hand to hand with my officers when we made entry over to the hotel and it was a matter, if you recall yesterday, i said between floor 29 and 32 and during that process of evaluating the floors, we received additional information where he was located and they immediately responded. >> sheriff, what time did s.w.a.t. reach the room? >> i don't have that number for you. [ inaudible ] >> that's for us to evaluate in the investigation. [ inaudible ] >> no, they were throughout the venue, they even had some
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victims that met their demise outside of the venue, and then we had individuals who had been shot and they continued to run away and then they passed away several blocks from the venue. we also had very heroic acts of people attending the event, we have numerous accounts of private citizens providing aid and providing transportation for victims to get to the hospital. [ inaudible [ inaudible [ inaudible ] >> sounds like he had set these cameras up to give himself warning of approaching police officers. how would you judge this man's preparation to do this based on this fact?
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>> i don't even need that bit of information to make a judgment. this individual was premeditated, obviously premeditated the fact that he had the type of weaponry and the amount of weaponry in that room, it was preplanned extensively and i'm pretty sure he evaluated everything that he did and his actions. which is troublesome. i was hoping, you know, i pray that in these situations that a citizen, because we can't be at all places at all times, that a citizen sees something, says something and we act on that. quite often what we experience in our line of work, a citizen thinks it's trivial and they say no, i don't want to bother the police, we ask you to bother the police, because those individuals, especialliy l housekeeping type individuals, anybody in the public space that can assist us, we ask that they do. >> did police or security guards fire any shots of any kind
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during the apprehension? >> while he was discharging his weapons? >> yes. >> we are not aware of that, no security guard or police other than the encounter at the room. >> can you expand on what went right. i know you practice these scenarios, maybe not this particular scenario but can you tell us what went right? >> obviously people have the assumption things went wrong in this type of carnage, but what went right is that we saved hundreds of lives. this guy having the ability with those weaponry, the carnage that could have occurred outside of what did occur, a lot more was prevented because of our police action, in a short time and private security action in short time. to safe some lives. >> sir, could i ask you, with all of us in the room, the cameras, the guns, you said there had been -- is it still
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believed that he turned away housekeeping? >> the only thing i know is that room service was provided. >> sir, can i ask you, do you believe you're going to try to -- >> i absolutely believe that. [ inaudible ] >> yes, i do. [ inaudible ] >> how do you know that's not occurring? >> i guess that's what i'm asking. >> that is occurring. >> as you have been investigating this the last couple of days, how are you and your investigators holding up? >> i'm so glad you asked that. i'm not being sarcastic, we're doing good. i'm actually very proud of our people. i mean this guy hears the local -- greg castle talked about this yesterday, chief of the clark county fire department. i'm telling you right now, this
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just has the best partnerships i believe in the united states as far as public safety. we would not be able to accomplish what we did, as you described in the last 48 hours without that partnership. the fbi stepped into the plate to help us with evidence documentation and prosecution. the fire department, here's -- he didn't do a good job describing it yesterday, greg. the fire department and our jurisdiction marries with the police officer during a critical incident. i beg you to find such a robust type operation in the rest of the united states. quite often what you observe in the public space is the fire department will wait until it's secured by public safety before aid is rendered. our primary mission is aid to the public. today took it upon themselves to train with us to marry with us and to go into the fray to assist the victims.
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if you look at the video you quite often see individuals with helmets and vests on, those are firefighters next to us. it's very important for you to ask that question, it's very important for me to convey the answer, but the next 48 hours we'll be able to tell, we have gone into instant management marked for identification, in other words people have to get sleep and nourishment because we don't want to make any mistakes in the investigation. [ inaudible ] >> we do have some information, i'm not at liberty to say at this point. there's the guy i was just talking about. make sure you get him on camera. >> sheriff, have you been in communications with the -- cooperati cooperation. [ inaudible ] >> yes, we have. before we get too long and too
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contracted in this press interview, i'll answer your questions, ken, and you can ask a couple additional more and i want acknowledgement of the people standing behind me. as you can see, it's our congressional delegation and our other public safety officials and it's very hard for them to conduct federal government and local government while they're standing behind me, but i think it's important for you to understand that they're community support and that people understand, we're bringing all resources associated with this to bear in order for us to meet success. >> there was a report that there was a camera on a service cart in the hallway? >> i tell you what, i wish i had some of you on my investigative teams, because it's amazing some of the information you come up
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with, but i'll confirm it, one of them was on a service cart. >> you talked about motive. you talked about the premeditation, you want to learn why he did what he did. videos, can you tell us the number of interviews you're going to have to do to do that? you're going to review cameras, videos, who have you last talked to? >> i'll give you a global answer on that. yes, to everything you said, yes we are evaluating all that, because the numbers change and it's fluid, ken, on the number of videos we're evaluating, just on body camera videos, we have over 67 videos we're evaluatine, but you're saying you had a lot more officers at the sven you, not all officers were assigned cameras because they work in an investigative function, but as
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they take on special roles at special events, we don't require them to wear body cameras. we have all the 67 body cameras and we have all the common public space cameras that we are evaluating and i can't remember the rest of your question, i'm sorry. >> we're also talking about computers and his cameras. >> a lot of this, you're probably saying, geez, sheriff, it's 2017, how come it's taking so long for you to evaluate that, it's chain of custody issues, we have to make sure we're dotting the i's and crossing the t's because we know there's criminal defense attorneys out there, and we also have the constitution. we have to ensure that we're abiding by us, i don't know if we have possible future prosecution, you have heard me say that we're comfortable that we have the suspect into custody, but something more may
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come of come of that investigation, and i want to understand the motive as you describe to prevent any future incidents. did this person get radicalized unbeknownst to us and we want to identify that source. >> as for congressional support-- >> that's not for this forum. that's a long protracted discussion not for this forum. [ inaudible ] any security measures that the city is taking and if you can tell us [ inaudible ] i also know that it's been reported that [ inaudible ] >> i'm the only one. >> and the mayor and the governor so could you please give us -- >> you're correct in who he's
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visiting. and it's a matter of secrecy and operation security that i can't give you his travel plans and that will obviously be provided in close proximity to his aprooifl. he will be visiting a hospital? >> ma'am, i can't answer that question because of operational security. but as you very well know, you have the resources to determine that upon his arrival. and i can't speak to what his agenda is. what i can tell you on part of your question was what is normal perot call when the sheriff -- the sheriff? -- the president or the vice president or anybody of dignitary space of that equality, we ensure their safety by the joining forces, big ca y basically, it takes a great deal of resources to ensure the safety of the president. and we will provide that because of our public cooperation through nhp, north las vegas,
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her derson, boultder city, as you can imagine, all the people will come to bear. an important piece on that is the president's visiting. route 91 investigation -- if you recall, i'm a police department. so we have over 3.3 million calls a year that we deal with. so we have to continue with our investigations, our response, and normal police business in order to be successful. so i ask your cooperation, and don't get frustrated if you don't have a press conference every five minutes because i have a job to do and my folks have a job to do. i want to thank everybody for attending today. and hopefully, hopefully, as a result of your attendance and your broadcasts, this investigation will be not as long as i want it to be. >> sheriff you have been -- >> can you say that again? can you say it again, please say it again, rachel. >> as a local reporter you have
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been very transparent in the past about metro's deescalation tactics. in pulse mass shooting that was talk of a very delayed police response trying to decide when to make entry. can you talk about the decision to make entry into paddock's hotel room? >> i will not disparage another police department's response. but i will tell you we quite often learn from what other people do. and everything we do on a critical incident based on a self evaluation. and as a result of what occurred in columbine, who occurred in sacramento, what occurred in boston, what occurred at the pulse nightclub, police response has changed. by the fact that the fire department is standing with us is monumental. okay? so we have found it's better, instead of securing a perimeter and hoping the person doesn't continue to do acts of carnage
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associated with their actions, that even a small police response will stop the suspect's actions. and so to answer your question in reference to mandalay bay, that training, we were listening and we were paying attention. officers, on their own, without direction of a supervisor, knew what they had to do. they came together, formed a team, made a response. and they didn't wait on s.w.a.t. okay? they said, we have to stop. it's easy to say we'll wait on s.w.a.t. they are the experts on tactical intrusion. but our officers took it upon themselves to act. >> patrol officers made entry to the room? >> no, pa terrell officers evaluated floor by fly the space between 29 and 32 of where the suspect was. they formed a security. they evacuated rooms. and they formed a perimeter at the suspect's location.
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by unfortunate acts of the suspect, a security guard was engaged during that process. >> was the security guard accompanied with officers or was he acting alone. >> he was acting independently. he got separated from our team. >> sheriff, can i confirm real fast, the girlfriend is in the philippines, we have confirmed that location. >> i'm comfortable saying she is in the philippines. just so you know, i'm not giving you bad info, okay. >> no, no i wasn't implying that. >> no. she was traveling. subsequently, we have determined her location. i'm sorry. and i know it's -- you have to give me some deference. i'm currently done answering questions. okay? so i want to thank you. carla, do we have any idea on the next conference time? >> [ inaudible ]. >> hold on.
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that's not gospel. okay. she hasn't talked to me yet. i put her on the spot. i put her on the spot but we'll anticipate 5:00. thank you. >> thank you, sheriff. >> you have been listening to the las vegas sheriff, joe lombardo, projecting a kind of calm professionalism in a las vegas law enforcement has projected since the early moments of this tragedy in las vegas. we're joined now by kennedy lany. he's nbc news national security correspondent. and i wonder what the headlines for you. it sounded like a little bit of news and real technical information was shared there at the very end. the me what you heard. >>ert that, nicole. the big question of motive is still a mystery. the sheriff wasn't able to answer that. but he did add new details to the tactical picture, the what happened and how it happened. and the first thing i'll talk about is he confirmed the use of a bump stock, which is something we have been reporting on all day. i actually have one here with me. this is a device that modifies a
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semiautomatic rifle to allow it to shoot in a rapid fire rate that we saw in those horrific videos and tapes, basically mimicking a machine gun. and it allows the recoil of the rifle to rapidly depress the trigger. and that caused you know as many as 400 rounds a minute to pour down on that crowd. experts are telling us today there is no doubt that that rapid rate of fire increased the death and injury toll. the second thing he did was he confirmed reports that this gunman set up cameras both inside and outside the hotel room to detect approaching officers. don't forget he did shoot a mandalay bay security guard this the leg who approached the door before the s.w.a.t. team approached and he killed him. this guy was geared up for war. he is an arsenal of 23 guns in his hotel room, two firing positions. he had automatic weapons, weapons of war. and he was destined there to
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kill. the sheriff also confirmed that his long time campaign onmarilou danley who is traveling overseas at the moment is a person of interest. nbc is reporting that mr. paddock sent her $100,000, wired it to her. her family is now telling nbc news that was related to payments for plans for her to build a house in the philippines. they are saying there was nothing nefarious about that. authorities are not suggesting she had any role in this but they want to talk to her because she has information presumably about his state of mind. she was living with him. knows him better than anyone else. there is speculation as to what led this man to carry out this act. >> two things, while you were talking we ran what we believe to be the first images of the scene outside the gunman's holgt room. obviously now it looks like a crime scene. but let me ask you. i had a physical reaction when you held up the bump stock.
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what on earth could that be needed for? and i understand that it is both legal and that it costs about $99. why is that available? >> i will hold it up again. >> please don't. >> these are advertised on sporting goods store website. you can find them right now on an internet search. some go for $200, $300 or $99 as safe, legal and fun additions to your ar-15. this is for an ak-47. people use these because it's fun the shoot machine guns. that's true. that's true. people who shoot them say it is a pleasurable experience. diane feinstein, senator from california is urging today that these be banned saying there is no legitimate reason for civilians to have a machine gun fire type of effect in light of
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what we saw. >> thank you for bringing us that information. what on earth does a bump stock have to do with second amendment gun protections? >> the parameters of the second amendment are much will itted but stop somewhere shot of how it covers about zookas. not all weapons are conferred by the second amendment. this is another new technology that's going to be to have to be considered. you go back to the heller decision that said the second amendment covers an individual right to bear arms. it left a lot of scope for legislation under that. >> what does the world think of a country that's literally shooting each other to death? >> it's interesting, every time this happens the first thing i'm asked about by my colleagues back this the uk is, so this means everybody is going to be talking about gun control, right. i have to say no. it's. >> actually never. >> it's not the right time
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straight after a mass shooting, nor in the middle of mass shootings either. it is never the right time to talk about gun control in this country. if you raise it you are being political. >> we are out of time. important to note. the president left puerto rico over an hour ahead of schedule. wonder what went wrong, if anything. my thanks to you. that does it for our hour. i'm micolle wallace, mtp daily starts right now. >> i didn't realize there was a schedule to keep. >> he left over an hour early. >> if it's tuesday, we are debating when to debate anything on guns. >> tonight, the search for a motive. and a question of why these mass murder incidents keep happening in this country. we'll have the latest on the
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