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hey there. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york at the half hour. six days after the attack in las vegas, the motive of gunman stephen paddock is confounding authorities. so police are now planning to use billboards in the city to ask for the public's help to determine why he did it. more on that in a moment. the gulf coast is bracing for hurricane nate. it is is expected to make landfall early tomorrow morning perhaps as a category 2 storm. it would be the third hurricane to hit the u.s. mainland in six weeks. the fbi says a plot to bomb
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times square in the spring of 2016 was app isis-inspired attack by three men. they considered attacks on concerts, subways and landmarks. one was an american living in pakist pakistan. one suspect said he wanted to create the next 9/11. >> and in a new associated press/orc poll, 70% say trump is not level headed and nearly 60% say he is not honest. officials are trying to make sense of a piece of papers with numbers found inside the gunman's hotel room. steve patterson joins me from las vegas. what more are we learning about all of this? >> you know, alex, you said it. it is half a dozen days later and we now know the names of all 58 victims. we want their spirits, their stories. investigators frustrated because they feel no closer to knowing
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what motivated the man responsible for their deaths. the fbi calling on the public for help, putting up billboards, asking for tips, anything that would lead them at this point to a reason why. at the scene of the crime, investigators combing for clues but still no closer to answers following more than 1,000 leads. >> while some of it helped create a better profile into the madness of the suspect, we do not still have a clear motive or reason why. >> reporter: under sheriff kevin mcmayhill, he believes the shooter acted alone. >> he was the only shooter. i'm very confident of that. i'm confident there were no other people in the room leading up to this event. >> reporter: described as a vegas high roller, records from the irs showed the shooter earned at least $5 million from gambling in 2015. this morning, samantha veranda, shot four times, is finally home.
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>> you will never know how loud those gunshots were. and i can't watch the news. i can't hear those gunshots because i just imagine being back there again and hearing the screams and the cries. ♪ >> reporter: now a community trying to heal. 35,000 strong gathering at a church in vegas. and near the scene of the shooting, 58 crosses personalized for every victim who lost their lives. heather melton visited the memorial of husband sonny. >> there is a mixture of grief and sadness but joy and appreciation for all the people here supporting the ones who lost their lives. >> reporter: sonny was hailed a hero, schilding heather from the gunfire. the registered nurse saving his wife's life, one last selfless act. ♪ >> reporter: and so later today
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vice president mike pence in just a few hours now expected to touchdown here in las vegas. he will talk to city leaders and make remarks to a community trying so hard to heal. alex. >> it is a beautiful memorial behind you. thank you so much, steve patterson in las vegas. joining me now is bill gavin. bill, with a welcome to you. you can hear it in the voice of that under sheriff there. they just don't know what the motive is here. how you unusual is that in a case like this? now six days later not to find anything? >> alex, it's extremely unusual. and i think we really have to face the fact that we may never get to the why step. we will have all the information on the how step, but we may never get to that why step. it is a very confusing matter and it doesn't help bring closure to any of those poor victims, either the ones that were injured, the ones that were
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traumatically involved, or the ones who lost their lives in this whole thing. sit a tragedy. >> is it pobl, bilssible, bill, gunman intended to keep his reasons secret. have you seen that before? >> i believe he did. many people in any situation is like this will try to prevent law enforcement authorities from knowing anything. this is a very intelligent guy. he has patience. and the technology that he used with the bump stock was to his benefit yet it was a down side too. because many of the weapons he had bump stocks on in that room jammed. that might have prevented him from doing more carnage than he actually did. and there were even more sinister technology out there right now. the digital trigger is another one. that has to be looked at as well. it is a mess out there right now. >> the gunmanst not fit the typical profile. he is older.
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so far doesn't appear to be suffering from mental illness, not severe kind that was visible to people. no financial distress, no criminal history. the worst he had was a traffic violation. so what is your take on that? >> it's not explainable, alex. as i said, it's just one of those things where this man is a ghost. he never came up on the grid for anything that was chaotic. they are looking at that sheet of paper with the numbers on it. it could be as simple as an inventory that he kept on weapons and ammunition or more sinister as a mosaic, some other reason. they will figure that out. bottom line is this man was a mystery. wrapped in an enigma. it is a tragedy and we may never be able to figure that out. >> is that, bill, your worst nightmare as someone in law enforcement, someone who comes out of nowhere, no criminal
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history, and can do something of this magnitude? >> absolutely, alex. you know, in a lot of these other things and the most recent thing with new york city, you knew bit ahead of time. you knew why it was being done. this man just popped up off the grid, onto the grid, did his carnage in the absolute killing box. and that's the end of it and took his own life. it is is something that staggers everyone's imagination and stimulates all kinds of why did he do it? >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> mandatory evacuations and curfew for new orleans as nate strengthens to a category 1 hurricane. it killed 22 in central america. it caused widespread damage. we have the very latest on this. look at these pictures, bonnie. what about the gulf states that could be in danger. >> i think so, alex. it will be getting worse.
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a hurricane warning for new orleans, for biloxi. the winds have gone up now to 85 miles per hour. so this is a strong category 1 storm. it may strength especially further to a category 2 by landfall in the overnight hours of late tonight, early tomorrow morning. notice the convection really has built up of course as we see it moving over the warmer waters of the gulf of mexico. it impacts a good portion of the east coast. of course it will weaken when it comes in contact with land. we have a ways to go before that happens. hurricane warning from morgan city to mobile, alabama. of course tropical storm warnings around it. we will see heavy rain, flash flooding as we go through the overnight hours into tomorrow morning. hurricane force winds. the worst of course to the right of the storm's center. storm surge is important to note. really rough surf. storm surge even more dangerous. this is where it will be the
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worst. along the mississippi/alabama border. 5 to 9 feet. low-lying areas. that's why we had some evacuations. it doesn't take a lot of water to come in. when it does come in, it will come in quickly. you highlighted some of the cities where we will see some of the heaviest rain. even though our scale goes up to five inches, alex, we could see in localized areas up to 10 inches of rain. it is going to be too much rain. the storm is moving fast. dangerous situation emerging for the central gulf coast overnight tonight and tomorrow morning. >> you have your work cut out. thank you so much, bonnie schneider. what the people in puerto rico need. here's a hint. it is a lot more than paper towels. >> new twists in the russia investigation. could new developments give the british spy's dossier more correct?
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they're going to consider banning so-called bump stocks amid the shooting in las vegas. the debate over gun control has been reignited. luis gutierrez is a member of the judiciary committee and cosponsor of a bill to help track lost or stolen firearms. good to see you i want to first get your reaction to the shooter having researched chicago among cities to carry out your responsible attacks in your city. >> look, why do we need permission from the nra to legislate for the safety and security of the american public? why does an organization have such huge and immense power over the congress of the united states? to me it's just immoral. that anyone can continue to allow such harm to be caused. we have methods in which we can certainly reduce and make people safer. people say, oh, it won't
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eliminate them all. well, it will eliminate a lot of them. we should keep as many people safe. that should be our mantra, not what the nra allows us to do. >> and your thought that chicago was being researched by him? >> you know, the love for the people of the city of chicago, the care that i have for them, the importance that they have in my life, as all americans dorks it makes me tremble. i have a 29-year-old and 38-year-old. they love music. they love going out. they love the parks. they love the city life of my city of chicago. and they're not ones to be co o ooped up. i thought about losing my wife. i thought about if it was my daughter, my dad. and so you have to think about them. you know, you live captive. you have to live free in america. >> yeah, that's true. and i completely empathize with
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you because i shed a tear or 20 about the thought of losing my children. let's go to the president's response to puerto rico. only 10% have power. a little more than half have access to drinking water. do you blame president for lack of progress, or is it such an impossible situation that there really could be no expectation the federal government could have helped more than they have at this point? >> is yeah, alex, look, they could have done more. they need to continue to do more. i got together with my friends in the congress of the united states. a lot of people introduced me as someone who lived in puerto rico and has family there. and that's true. but that's not maybe true for congressman of massachusetts, connecticut or marcy of cleveland, ohio. here's what they're all saying. they're saying, you know what, get people out into a safe place. they're welcome in lorain, ohio. they're welcome in connecticut,
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in massachusetts. bring them to chicago, said my mayor. to me it's wrong. and at the same time, alex, it's immoral. it's immoral to have food, to have hospitals, to have the warmth and the love and the affection of your family and for people not being -- there's a hurricane coming again, unfortunately. coming to attack the united states of america. and what are we talking about? we're talking about evacuation. alex, they never got a chaps to evacuate. after more than two weeks without water, and i would just like to say i got a -- i have to do this because i think it's important. i was out last night. one of my constituents came and said this is what he got from his cousin. it says please tell luis gutierrez the shipments are stuck. tell them the help is all a lie. tell them that there's no trucks and there's no diesel, the stores are closing. we will probably not have food. no helicopters are dropping
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supplies. please push your public officials. so there is a new growing sense that we need for those who wish -- yesterday in the "new york times" the headline was, what's the most coveted thing for many in puerto rico? airline ticket out. but it shouldn't be only for those that have the possibility to get out. it should be for those that need. there are people on dialysis, people recovering from cancer and treatment. there is no water. there is no supplies. the electricity isn't up for 90%, and we are going into day 17. we have a moral responsibility to transport those who wish to come and put them in a safe place, especially if they're such warm, caring family members of the great puerto rico. we're 5 million strong. we will take care of our own. help us identify them and bring them to safety in orlando, connecticut, chicago, and throughout the nation. >> i appreciate the words that constituent of yours who was getting from a citizen
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journalist what's going on from their perspective. it adds up to a more complete picture of the situation there. i am going to say very quickly i heard about jetblue airlines, the largest airline servicing puerto rico from the united states mainland. and i know they're doing a new program, 135. they are spending 100 days. they are getting help there. they are using their planes as freight planes literally and they are capping i think it's $135 is what they're capping the price at for a ticket on jetblue to get back to the mainland. i read that and thought bravo for them. >> alex, thank you. and united sent 300 people down there. but here's what i've got to tell stpwhru re you. >> real quick. >> you can't buy a ticket out. if it's your grandma, our brother, sister, cousin, we need the government. i am happy that corporate america is stepping up. when is the government going to step up? >> okay, luis gutierrez, thank
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you for your time. >> thank you, alex. >> it wasn't what rex tillerson said that enraged president trump, it was what he did not say. the tension between the president and the secretary of state stands next. you nervous? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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a new tweet from president trump this hour that reads, i called conduct chumer yesterday to see if the democrats want to do a great health care bill. obamacare is badly broken, big premiums. who knows? joining me progressive media for the clinton campaign now the director of sirius xm and joe watkins, former white house aid to george h.w. bush. hi, guys. good estate to both of you. joe, do you think trump is open to working with democrats or is this about sending a message to republicans on the hill? >> i would call it both. on the one hand, he will say to republican, few don't work with me, i'll be glad to work with democrats t. more important
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thing is i think he has to work with democrats. i think it's a good ting when republicans and democrats work on legislation with that helps all americans. i think it's a good thing he has at least begun to have a conversation and a relationship with chuck chum u schumer and nancy pelosi. i think republicans have to ultimately take the message as well that they've got to work with folks on the other side of the aisle to get things done for america. >> that itself a food thing. >> is it possibly all about the president's determination to erase all obama policies? he's even willing to work with democrats? >> i think it's interesting he is now willing to work with democrats after he failed numerous times to try to repeal obamacare using republican votes alone and i think that clearly he wants a win. clearly he's at a moment he is desperate. i do agree with joe, that's what elected officials are supposed to done. they are public servants, they are to go into government and solve problems for the american
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people. president trump unfortunately over the last nine months has not done many things to solve problems and help people. so i'm helpful that democrats and republicans can work together to improve obamacare but at the same time that he's tweeting this, essentially, hhs is de-funding the advertising to tell people to sign up for obamacare. they're gutting the contraception mandate. so they're gutting the bill at the same time he is tweeting he wants to work to improve the bill. so it's very confusing. >> which means we will be talking about this a lot more, no doubt. i will begin with you, sell narcs it appears that the president entertained replacing him. we don't know for certain, what do you think works? is replacing tillerson now or keeping him on the job despite this somewhat toxic relationship with president trump? >> neither one of these options is a good thing in terms of foreign policy, we're dealing with critical issues. north korea is not a joke. it is not a game.
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we cannot have this uncertainty so have you rex tillerson saying he is talking directly with north korea and the president tweeting the opposite. >> that is not something that our allies and other foreign leaders can look at and be able to gain out what they are going to do, because there is an issue, not just doesn't affect the united states, it affects the entire planet and i think that the scariest thing about this is that we are entertaining, we are focused on whether or not the secretary of state thinks the president is a moron. i think it's interesting nobody is questioning whether or not that's true, but we're trying to confirm whether he said it. but i think that you know president trump is all about his ego and that's where we get into danger. because when you are dealing with nuclear north korea, we need stability, we need certainty and we need to be able to predict what is going to happen and when you have the president tweeting things that contradict his own government's foreign policy behavior, that's when it becomes dangerous. >> you know what, picking up on
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that, joe, here are a couple more details on the fallout by the nightly news report by angela mitchell. >> reporter: the president according to five officials furious at secretary of state, chief kelly scrapping plans to travel with the president to try to contain his boss' fury and manage the fallout. vice president mike pence fueling, according to seven senior officials. he and tillerson talked about, leader to tillerson action extraordinary news conference. >> so at the end there, joe, is there anyway secretary tillerson can now effectively speak for the president after all of this? >> well, it's hard to say. i don't know that this is something that can be repaired. clearly, i would have said to you a week or so ago that the difference betweening is tillerson's responses to what we are doing in north korea and president trump's response for what we do in north korea was a matter of good cop versus bad cop, where tillerson was talking
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about the importance of diplomacy and the back channels to north korea, have you president trump saying you are wasting your time, you know, they're going to get what they're going to get and i just thought that in a perfect world that that was a good cop/bad cop. i think the rift is pretty wide right now. we have not yet seen a situation where president trump has said, let's see about a senior staff person and that staff person has abstained. in each case when he says we'll see what happens, that person ends up leaving. >> you are right. thank you both so much. appreciate that. so did the gunman in las vegas have help? the clues authorities are focusing on right now to understand whether someone else may have been involved. lle is d. but it's usually seen from the rear. the 2018 audi q5 is here.
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