very good evening to you. i'm richard lui live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. just a little past midnight on the east coast as we await now hurricane nate's second landfall. it's the one that so many people are worried about because it is going to be a larger portion of the mainland, if you will. the first coming about four hours ago. and was not nearly as powerful as we expected the second one to be. nate a category 1 hurricane right now but it could still bring a storm surge for up to 11 feet for parts of mississippi. alabama power reporting that fewer than 3,000 customers are without power in the mobile area. president trub already approved disaster declarations for mississippi and louisiana. we'll cover the impact of hurricane nate as it pounds the coast with heavy winds and rains. meteorologist bill karins joins us. we just got the latest from noaa

and they put in some changes. anything major? >> nothing major. they knocked the winds down a little bit. not the sustained winds of 85. that's the maximum sustained winds of the storms. it was saying 115 miles per hour was the possible gusts. now they're saying the max gusts about 105. so we're waiting to see where the strongest winds will be and how much damage they will do. some around pascagoula to biloxi in that area. it will probably occur in the next hour as that northern portion of that partial eye moves on shore. our kerry sanders is in biloxi with the crew. they're giving us the pictures here. and they're kind of the litmus test for everybody else. the power hasn't really gone out. and if we don't get -- this next half hour's is when the strongest winds will be going through biloxi, mississippi. if they don't get the 90-mile-per-hour winds and a lot of people remain with their power on, that's a good sign for everyone else. it doesn't mean everyone will get lucky and a tree won't fall and knock down a power pole, but maybe it won't be as widespread. that's what we're baiting to see on that end. we're also waiting to see what the storm surge is doing.

the forecast of 7 to 11 feet doesn't mean the whole coastline of mississippi is going to get the 7 to 11-foot storm surge. it means someone is going to get that. pascagoula we're most concerned with. their storm surge just jumped up to four feet. the prediction of 7 to 11 feet, if there's one spot that really could happen it would probably be closer to the high end, would be pascagoula, mississippi. the storm is going to make landfall just to your west. it's going to move to the north. the southerly winds are going to pile that water up all night long. and high tide also occurring there as we go right now and through the next hour or two in that area. those are the stories that are playing out currently on the coast. we are limited by what we can see. we don't even have a lot of social media out there currently right now because people are -- >> you can see that water gathering there in the shot. >> this is it for biloxi. this next half hour on the coast of mississippi is the strongest the winds will be with this

storm. and the storm will weaken quickly as it mochz inland. this is the strongest that nate's winds will be for the rest of its existence. >> and we saw a little bit of flickering of lights earlier from this shot from where kerry sanders is at. pascagoula you were talking about. and the weather channeltion jim cantore saying there were some 40 roads because of storm surge were closed. we know that chevron had to close its refinery. they just finished that. what was yesterday now that we're past midnight. but still saturday there local time -- >> you can see the visibility going down there in biloxi. they're now getting into that northern eye. this is it. this is the heaviest rain that they're going to get. the lowest visibility. the highest wind gusts. at least from this vantage point. power's holding up. >> let's go to kerry sanders, since we are talking about biloxi, mississippi and the live pictures here at the moment. and it's picking up, shall we say. and you know, that kerry

sanders. this is about the timing that bill karins was telling us was going to happen, kerry. >> reporter: are you guys with me right now? >> we are with you. we just came to you. >> reporter: i actually was keeping myself a little bit in a protected area, but let me walk out here so you can see a little bit of how the wind is picking up. of course you see the rain i think in the shot. the good news is -- you're wondering about the winds. these are about the strongest winds. this is right on schedule with what you've been saying, bill-s going to happen here. the winds here potentially could take out some tree limbs but right now there are no reports of any power outages or at least any significant power outages, which is good news. and the storm surge, i was -- on the other side of this building looking out at u.s. 90 there. and there's no real significant storm surge that we can see. but as you know, it sort of

takes a while for that water to build up and then come over. if it's going to happen, we hear it possibly predicted up to 11 feet. we may see that in some time. i can actually walk out a little bit down here. you probably see the water rushing at my feet here. fair amount of water. i'm going to just take a look down here while i'm on the air to see if there is any indication. that's the's direction down there toward the beach. and i don't see any signs at all of the storm surge coming up yet. there are some areas, especially down in pass christian, where there have been some storm surge areas where the lowest-lying areas do have some floods but it doesn't appear according to local officials anything of significance. again, remember, this is happening at night in the darkness. there's no reason to put people out on the streets from the police and the fire department. so many of the reports that are coming in are just from people

sending messages or putting stuff on twitter. so it really takes some time to really assess what's going on. i think we'll probably get a better of idea of if there's damage or if there's some significant flooding that we may really see that probably as the sun comes up. but lee smithson, who is with the mississippi emergency management agency, he's in charge of it, he says that right now from all of the reports he's getting in that mississippi looks like it's doing pretty well. faring rather well. and of course that's encouraging news, guys. >> as you're mapping it out there, kerry, he is at his map as he does when you're on air, trying to get the latest detail. bill, the question might be has the wind direction changed? because you were saying for kerry sanders wait until it becomes more north-south, right? >> not yet. and that's why the storm surge is going to be worse in pascagoula than it's going to be in biloxi. this is -- the map here shows you -- you can do a split screen with kerry and i.

the best pictures -- not the best pictures. i shouldn't say that. what i mean is the best example of the highest winds. it's what's happening with kerry right now. this is that partial northern eye that he's in. there's biloxi, there's gulf park estates. there's gulfport over here. there are some pretty heavy rain in here. the reds, and you get into this purple here. that's the heavy almost extreme rainfall. they are in the middle of this band. this band from north to south is about 10 miles wide. so it's only going to last. storm moving at 20 miles per hour. you're going to be in this for about a half hour. and then once it's done it's really done. there's not much around the back side of this storm at all. and that really is encouraging. once you get through this, if you have your power, likely you're going to keep your power as we go throughout the storm. we still have our -- at the airport in biloxi, kerry, we still have our airport gauge working. and you know, right now the highest gusts just in the last

20 minutes was only 46 miles per hour. so so far so good. >> i tell you what, 46 or maybe 350 miles an ho 50 miles an hour when the rain is driving at me like this it is pelting. i can feel it coming right through the rain jacket. it kind of stings. certainly more rain now and stronger gusts and wind than we've seen at all during any portion of nate's arrival here. there you go. see? i think that we're -- if we're going to calculate it correctly, we're going to see what you're suggesting here, that this will be over sooner than maybe a lot of people feared. and that's good news. >> yeah, a very clear difference, kerry and bill, from an hour or two ago as we are looking at this peak in wind and rain. >> there's a good chance you'll have a sunrise in biloxi tomorrow morning. this storm by 7:00 a.m. will be halfway over the state of alabama.

>> it will be clear is what you're saying. >> yeah, it's going to be moving extremely fast. kerry, we have a split screen. we keep showing you and then we're showing a view from what looks like a parking garage over it where our camera operator's giving a wide view of the trees going around. doesn't look like a lamp power outage in sight. >> reporter: it's remarkable. but you've got to remember that this area has gone through hurricanes before and they have fortified a tremendous amount of the infrastructure here, especially after katrina when so many things were lost. the power companies could do things that they have not done before after katrina. among them putting in more concrete poles as opposed to wooden poles. and those concrete poles certainly can hold better. it's really about trying to calculate what is the one thing you can do to make things better. but again, you can't build a

fortress in the way it would withstand a category 5. so a lot of those decisions we're seeing sort of played out right now, that what people have done may have done the fortification of the infrastructure like the power system. and again, we're talking about winds of 45, 50 miles an hour here. we're not talking about 100, 200-mile-an-hour winds. but right now the good news is the electricity is on and that's really a good barometer for how the community is doing during this hurricane. >> kerry, we'll let you get in from the storm for a little bit. we'll stop by with you in the storm in 15 or 20 minutes. kerry sanders, thank you so much, sir, in biloxi, mississippi. a great point you make, they have prepared so well, it appears there for the issues of power as hurricanes make their way through. lu thank you, kerry. let's get over to kristen dahlgren covering the storm for us in mobile, alabama. it's different there in alabama as you know at the moment, kristen, and we're just getting in from abc news a conversation

we had with alabama power and that is that they have fewer than 3,000 customers with power outages at the moment in the greater mobile area. and it seems like at least that you have some electricity behind you in the location you're at close to the waterfront. >> reporter: absolutely. in the downtown area we haven't seen any power outages at all. so that's good news for a lot of people who are here. where we are they say we're on the same generator as the hospital. so they, even if they did lose power, they say they have a backup system in place. but a lot of these lights behind would go out if they have lost power to this area. so fingers crossed that that continues. we are expecting of course some of those stronger winds. but definitely not as bad now as what kerry is getting. and that really tells you a lot about nate. each of these storms is individual. and this is a very small

eyewall. and at one point only 30 miles across. and bill can fill us in on how things are now. but that shows you, you know, just how small this storm is. unlike some of the storms where we see those hurricane-force winds extending out very far from the center, here in mobile we are on the dirtier side of the storm, so to speak, in that northeast quadrant but not expecting to get those very, very high hurricane gusts up to, you know, 80-plus miles an hour is that they may be getting to our west. so this is a fast-moving storm and we are expecting things to get worse as we go through the next hour or so. all of the water being pushed into mobile bay. it's still unclear what the storm surge will be here because of that. right now the winds have been coming to the east but at some point that shifts and all of the water begins to pile up even more and could potentially come

into the streets here in mobile. at this point just a waiting game for us. the weather not too bad out but officials don't want people to be fooled by these lulls and think they can go out driving because we have seen that there are some roadways that are already underwater here and it's potentially very dangerous, richard. >> kristen, you are only 50 miles from biloxi by the way the crow flies. world of difference. a very small storm as you said, hurricane gusts only 30, 40 miles from the center. that's why we're not expecting a lot of wind damage if hardly any in areas from mobile all the way down through pensacola and fort walton beach area and panama city. very little if any. the problem if we're going to have any from the winds will be from these little spinups of these possible tornadoes. we have these feeder bands coming in off the gulf. there's the center of the storm over by biloxi. feeder bands one's over the torch pensacola and one's ready

to head up to where you are in mobile. it will probably rain pretty hard for a good hour or two. you can get these little spinouts. if our control room has that video of that water spout earlier near gulf shores, all afternoon long the reporters on the beaches were looking aught over the water and they were seeing these tornadoes. we call them water spouts over the ocean or the sea or a lake. and they were spinning up pretty good. that was the concern, how many of these are we going to see at nighttime. don't know if you're going to get one. they spin up quickly and they spin down. that would be the concern for the mobile area. besides the high tide stuff. mobile high tide's at 1:45 a.m. we still have another almost two hours to go till high tide. six to nine feet still a possibility. it looks calm where you are right now. you're going to get rain something, gusty winds. i'm not really too concerned with power outages from the wind. it's what will happen, will we get any minitornadoes with you tonight and what happens with that storm surge?

>> kristen dahlgren -- >> and you were showing that water spout -- i just want to real quick -- >> sure. >> people over in orange beach right near gulf shores, there are actually many without power. i think the number was at 4,000 when i last checked, and that's because some of the transformers blew. so you do get these pockets of areas while here in mobile we're doing okay, you know, they are just to our east and many people there without power at this point. so it really does depend on where these little microburst tornadoes, whatever they ultimately are determined to be, where they are hitting, and that's where we're seeing some of these power outages. >> kristen dahlgren, we'll let you get out of the rain for a little bit, or at least the weather, which is not so bad at this moment. but of course we'll continue watching hurricane nate and we'll take you to a live look now. there is a lot of change in biloxi, mississippi. bill, look at that. a real pickup there. >> this is the northern eye. whatever's left of the partial eyewall. it has now moved offshore

completely from biloxi, mississippi through gulfport and back through pascagoula. it's pretty much going on right along parallel now to the coastline. they've got about ten more minutes of this, 15 more minutes of this. when we come back to this show in about 15 minutes it probably won't be even be raining anymore. that's how quickly this storm is going to move in. they will move toward the calm of the storm. it doesn't really have a well-defined eye. but pretty soon you'll see a calm in biloxi. so give this 15 more minutes to pass. hopefully you'll hold on to your power. and if you do you should be fine for the rest of the night. >> that eye about to make landfall. we'll have more on hurricane nate right after this. stick around. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies, and data without insights. and fragmented care, stop getting in the way of patient recovery and pay attention. every single one of you is on our list. at optum, we're partnering across the health system

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chief spoke with his relationship with secretary of state rex tillerson. take a listen. >> we have a very good relationship. we disagree on a couple of things. sometimes i'd like him to be a little bit tougher. but other than that we have a very good relationship. >> and then earlier in the day the president brought north korea back to the forefront of the conversation tweeting this -- "presidents and their administrations have been talking to north korea for 25 years. agreements made and massive amounts of money paid. hasn't worked. agreements violated before the ink was dry, making fools of u.s. negotiators. sorry but only one thing will work." all right. joining us right now aaron delmore, senior political correspondent at bustle.com along with democratic strategist hateem omara. a little after midnight and we can't thank you enough for being here. rex tillerson, the president making comments about north korea. this goes a little deeper because he's using the word he wished rex tillerson was a little bit tougher.

on north korea. along with his comments, about 25 years of speaking to north korea. but that of course is in question. >> well, the u.s. policy right now is to sustain steady economic and diplomatic pressure on north korea. and that's a consolidated effort throughout the u.n. this is the united states mission. but we always see president trump coming out ratcheting up the rhetoric. he's a president who wants to see a military solution from his generals. he wants all the options on the table. but when he makes these comments and when he says that he wishes his secretary of state were a little tougher, he is chipping away at that person's authority. if we had seen any daylight between president obama and john kerry it would have been headlines for days. that's why this blockbuster report from nbc news holds weight. it's part of a pattern here of president trump criticizing his allies and his cabinet members. and we have seen many walk through that revolving door. >> a part of this for rex tillerson, he came from running if not the most successful, the

most profitable, the most largest corporation in the world to now being in a situation where he can't get anything done. he has not made any sort of major policy speech as we've all been watching. now in a situation where he has very little influence and he may be, as has been reported by many different places including nbc, that he is now not so happy, shall we say. >> yeah, his is not a great situation for secretary tillerson in the slightest. most secretaries of state, pretty much all in the last decade, whether they be republican or democrat, have a lot of latitude, are respected for their knowledge, their relationships. so that their credibility, whether it be in foreign business, academia, or politics. and you know, he brings to the table, at least that was the argument for him coming to the table, was that he had all these international sort of relationships on the business end and a little bit of savvy. so when you have him deciding to

make some decisions and then trump actually contradicting him on twitter or just in general like in this last comment he made on the white house lawn, it makes his job a little harder, and it's hard to make folks -- he's trying to convince that he's saying one thing is what the u.s. means and they're like well, that's not what your boss said. so it doesn't put him in a great situation. >> the watchers have been saying, was last week rex tillerson's last week? erin. >> friday night news dump. we're all sitting around waiting to see what would come out during that press briefing with sarah huckabee sanders and what would come out through the rest of the day. for right now, yes, rex tillerson is still a member of the administration. for what it's worth, it would be a very tough time to lose a secretary of state. we've been talking for days about the various enzbajts that the u.s. is working on overseas. also the president has a trip to asia coming up. and plus we're talking about decertifying the iran nuclear deal. we're talking about possible engagement with north korea. there's a lot, a lot on the

table and it would take a while and some crossed wires to try to get somebody new in place. >> let's stick with the palace intrigue if you will at the very top levels. reporting coming from politico, andy carney saying that the chief of staff again as we look at john kelly, and he has -- he's been thought and been called to be the person that brings order and if you need to look at solidity and decision-making think of the chief of staff as well as others at the top levels. however, andy carney saying at times now the chief of staff not returning messages, that it could take days or weeks sometimes from very high-level outreaches and the reporting being it's easier to reach the president. that's another question when you look at the chief of staff. how effective he is at the moment based on the number of fires he has to deal with. >> well, you know, i wonder about that. he has very much tried to streamline everything. almost to the point of micromanaging, i've heard.

just whatever trump -- whatever comes across trump's desk, whoever has meetings with limb. what he tries to say. he's tried to basically do what everybody else has not done very successfully, which is try to control trump's atmosphere, try to control trump. i think at the end of the day that will backfire on him because, one, it's really hard to micromanage and certainly if it isn't a regular job where you have a lot of people under you, certainly when you're running the white house of the ults of america, so that's going to be harder for him i think. and once that starts to happen and it becomes more apparent. it's starting to obviously with this political report. you're going to have a situation where trump's going to be like, well, why do i have you here for if you can't keep things in control? things are going to start getting through to trump because they're going to know this is the best way to get to the president. >> and president trump as insiders will say here, erin, does not like to open the

papers, turn on the television on saturdays and sundays and mondays through fridays, and any piece of media and reporting and see other names that are in equivalence saying they're the adult in the room, not the president. and the chief of staff has often been put in that situation, john kelly, at difficult in the room, he pulse the strings on the president. >> this is a president who says he likes to have competing power circles around him. he wants to hear thinks aides and his cabinet secretaries make their case for why their way is the right way. he likes to see that healthy infighting. that's how he sees it. but he doesn't want competition from the people in his inner circle. he doesn't want anyone else to outshine him or take the spotlight. that's why wh we start to see the infighting boil back up. the president came out today, he was going into marine one and he said john kelly is working out fantastically in his administration. >> but he needs to be tougher, though. oh, no, talking about rex tillerson. that's right. >> for his part he said kelly told him this is his favorite job he's ever had. looking to create an atmosphere

that is forward thinking. >> sorry for that conflation. i did not mean to do that. atimma, staying on the political reporting here. there's a bit of a pact potentially, that if one goes, of the adults or of the generals along with mnuchin, they will all go. >> yeah. i've heard that. and it's pretty interesting if that were to actually happen. i think that if it was just these three i think that's bad enough. if you add three to the already -- what is it, nine now combination of firings and resignations. is pretty disastrous on a staffing level. especially because those are very key departments. the treasury, helping to navigate the budget and taxes. i think you might have a competent deputy. this is the guy who's been carrying trump's message and then you have secretary of state. so with all the things as erin mentioned that are going on. this would not be a great simm.

i don't know if it's true or not but if it does happen i'm sure there will be plenty to talk about in regards to what are going to be the next steps and a lot of fires at that point for john kelly to actually manage. >> and the word they want to hold out before the new year before such major changes might happen in the white house. erin delmore, atima omara, thank you both. on this sunday, if i got my calendar right. on is this sunday for covering this for us today. appreciate it. >> thank you. hurricane nate. our breaking story. making its way toward landfall along the gulf coast. we expect that to happen this hour. our coverage continues on that. also vice president mike pence in las vegas today to mourn the victims of last week's deadly shooting spree that left 58 people. more on that. me safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.

right here on msnbc we're still tracking hurricane nate, which we expect to make landfall this hour. but also tonight is the first "saturday night live" since the shooting in las vegas, nevada. and "snl" paid tribute. >> so many people are hurting. there are children, parents, brothers, sisters, friends. they're all part of our family.

so i want to say to them, we hurt for you and we hurt with you. but you can be sure that we're going to walk through these tough times together every step of the way. >> and that was jason aldean, the country star on stage sunday night when those shots rang out. reaching out to the victims and their families, he did, in that commentary. he and his band then performed tom petty's "won't back down." tom petty dying this past monday. saturday a memorial took place as well as las vegas's city hall. doves were released to honor the 58 victims who lost their lives and the hundreds more that were seriously wounded when a gunman opened fire on an unsuspecting crowd last sunday. vice president mike pence was also in attendance and addressed the crowd, calling for unity in the wake of the deaiest mass shooting in u.s. histor nbc correspondent steve patterson is in las vegas and has the latest details for us.

steve? >> reporter: well, richard, here we are nearly a week later, and investigators still no closer to determining a motive in this shooting. tonight frustration in las vegas. >> i get it. we all want answers. we have looked at everything. >> reporter: investigators looking into more than 1,000 leads. >> well, some of it has helped create a better profile into the madness of this suspect. we do not still have a clear motive or reason why. >> reporter: officials tell nbc's miguel almaguer they believe the shooter acted alone. >> he was the only shooter. i'm very confident of that. i'm also confident that there were no other people in the room. >> reporter: police are building a port raitt of stephen paddock, looking into a cryptic note left in his hotel room with a series of numbers, questioning firearms dealers, and sorting through his prolific gaming history. today vice president mike pence praising the spirit of las vegas. >> i stand before you today on

behalf of my family and every family in america to say we are pu. today we are all vegas strong. >> reporter: meanwhile, along the strip a sirg memorial. one cross for each of the 58 victims as this community makes every attempt to heal. volunteers at a garden planted 58 trees. >> i think it's part of the healing process. >> reporter: many like mary brooks were there during the shooting. >> this is the first i've been able to get out of the house since it happened. and i felt the need to be here. >> reporter: a community now growing together, looking beyond the horrors of a night they'll never forget. and late tonight multiple law enforcement sources telling nbc news they believe the numbers on that cryptic note are actually the height, range, and distance of paddock's shot placement. the calculations from that night in effect making the gunfire even more lethal. richard? >> nbc's steve patterson in las vegas with that report for us.

now we take you to a live look at biloxi, mississippi. local time there 11:34 p.m. the worst of hurricane nate moving through that area right now. we'll tell you when landfall for the second time for hurricane nate will happen. stick around. me. -no. -separated at birth much? we should switch name tags, and no one would know who was who. jamie, you seriously think you look like him? uh, i'm pretty good with comparisons. like how progressive helps people save money by comparing rates, even if we're not the lowest. even if we're not the lowest. whoa! wow. i mean, the outfit helps, but pretty great. look at us.

live coverage here on msnbc. i'm richard lui at the bottom of the hour as we follow hurricane nate right now. any moment we expect the official landfall for the second time of the eye of the storm. the first was 4 1/2 hours ago near the mouth of the mississippi river. a fairly unpopulated area there of louisiana. category 1 hurricane right now. live pictures here. we're taking these live pictures immediately because we are seeing that storm surge now hitting that as the camera pans to the left. it was farther to the right. bill karins, nbc meteorologist, is here with us. and bill, we're --

>> the storm surge is coming on right now. there's a storm chaser that's at the golden nugget casino. just showed a video on his social media feed. the water's halfway up the doors of the lobby there. dauphin island is reporting four foot of storm surge currently and it's covering the road there. that's a barrier island just south of alabama. there's a lot of storm surge that's happening now, and this is when it's the dangerous part. this is some of the nighttime video of dauphin island and some of the power is out and you can see that's the road there and that's the storm surge. part of it coming in there. this is what you expect. storm surge inundation. this is when the wind turns south and the storm makes landfall and we're at high tide. unfortunately two things have coincided with each other. yeah. that gets a little iffy and a little hairy driving on that road for them. you can see the water coming up. and they get out of that. >> and the word is from noaa

it's very clear on the website they say one to two feet. don't be driving through that. it can move forward not only to six inches but it can sweep a person away. >> mobile bay is also on the rise now. they're starting to report some flooding along mobile bay. just because we're getting the eye, the landfall, what's left of the eye, the center moving on shore now, the storm surge is the really problem and that's what's coming up now. let's zoom into it here and let's show you. that water wasn't there before. you can see some of the street signs. if you look to the middle bottom, looks like the middle top of a fire hydrant. you can barely see it floating in the middle of the water there. this is what's left of that northern eye. and it's almost done in biloxi. they're going to go into the column here shortly. this is the highest water levels they're going to have. looks like a parking garage structure in the background, water completely in it. just trying to see how high that water is. but kerry, can you see any of the storm surge flooding from your vantage point? >> you know, i did take a peek out the window. i'm going to walk down here and see if i can see -- oh, yeah.

absolutely i can see it. yes. it's actually quite dramatic. let me sort of explain it to you. this is u.s. 90 and the waves are coming over. it actually looks like you're looking at the beach. if you did not know u.s. 90 was there. and the storm surge is rising. as the wind is blowing, the whitecaps are kicking up and you see the whole storm surge there. i'm not sure whether it's going to make its way up to where i am, but i can actually see it as i'm talking to you here. i can actually see it rising. it's happening at the moment i'm looking at it. i just don't think we can put the camera on there because of the wind and the rain to sort of show it to you. yes. that's u.s. 90. you talked about the golden nugget that has water on the first floor. there was some concern that that might also happen at another one of the casinos there at the hard rock.

we have a transformer blowout here earlier. apparently, after it blue the electricity came back on. we're feeling the wind actually shifting a little bit because it had been coming really hard from this area and i'm beginning to feel it come from over there. and i think you can just sort of see it. if i stand over here by this tree, you can actually see some of the strongest gusts that we've seen today on this tree here that's continuing to blow in the wind. but by and large speaking to the folks over at mema, the mississippi emergency management agency, the good news so far, and again this is far from over, the good news so far is things appear to be holding. there are no serious reports of problems associated with nate. >> kerry, we're looking at those live pictures from the other camera. and bill had noted the fire hydrant almost now completely overrun by the storm surge.

from your point of view can you tell by any of the landmarks, trees, street signs how high the storm surge is at at the moment and how it might be growing? >> reporter: all right. you know what we're going to do here? hang on a second. i just want to try to figure out if we can do that. i'd say it looks about four to five feet. just based on the fact that i'm 11 feet up. i really don't know whether we have the capability to get the gear over there. do we have the capability to get around the corner over here, do you think? >> yeah. >> okay. why don't you stick with us here. what we're going to do is see if we can do this. we have a lost gear tied down in certain situations to make sure it can be safe. >> kerry, let me give everyone the latest update on the radar and how we're just about to make landfall here. you move the camera we'll come back to you. >> reporter: shouldn't take us foo long.

>> we're about to get official landfall. i'm checking the national hurricane center as we speak. it's going to be any second we get the final fall of nate. we just had a 70-mile-per-hour wind gust in biloxi. that's the highest wind gust we've seen almost up to hurricane strength. notice on the back side how much weaker they are in new pensacol. mobile hasn't been too bad. the strongest winds are in biloxi and into areas in dauphin island sxr with the storm surge is occurring, around pascagoula. you notice the northern eye which was over the top of biloxi before, all this bright red, yellows and pinks intense rain that's almost done. when we go back to kerry once he gets his camera move the prab r rain is probably going to be almost completely stopped. this black line represents where the center of the storm is and we're just coming onshore. we're waiting for word that the center of nate has made

landfall. you notice the pascagoula area, feeder bands coming into it. this is where i get concerned with the storm surge. kerry showing you, showing you the pictures in the approximati area. some of the storm chasers showing you dramatic stuff in the casinos in biloxi. i promise you the storms are worse in pascagoula. this is where the winds are now coming back to the south. as the center moves inland biloxi the winds will go calm and fen that storm surge will decide to go out. it's not going to go out in pascagoula. the southerly winds will pump in. that's going to have the worst storm surge. if it has structuring damage because of storm surge it will be there in the pascagoula area. >> any moment is what you're expecting. >> any moment it's going to be. but as we've been waiting to see the winds haven't been -- the 70-mile-per-hour gust in biloxi was the highest i saw. and that was with the heaviest

northern eye band. that's good. if you live in northern georgia or you live in central alabama, if they keep their power in biloxi, not going to promise you you're going to keep your powers because you never know when that tree's going to fall down the road that was rotting anyway. it shouldn't be extremely widespread. >> probability lower. as you were seeing your map here, bill, we're still seeing pink in the upper blob area of your map. is that lake pontchartrain? >> i'm waiting for that map to update. the storm surge concerns now are really mostly biloxi towards areas toward pensacola and mobile areas. that's where the storm surge is coming on shore right now. coming in quickly in some cases. highest is four to five feet. just seeing my social media feed here, more pictures, the hard rock hotel has water on the first floor of it now as kerry was saying. >> we're going to go back to kerry in just a couple seconds here. also you're waiting for the

official calling of nate having landfall for the second time. i was also looking at what you were mapping out earlier, bill, and you were saying look at the purpleos. the purple arrows you were worried about is all over here. you're saying it's all about this space here. >> yes. if you look at the direction the arrows are moving now they're moving from due south to due north. and that's piling the water up. the storm surge is going to be brief in biloxi but reports are it's still pretty bad. kerry, did you get that shot up for us? >> yeah. we're in a position right now. we've moved down. the storm surge is literally coming up as i'm standing here. i think what i need to do is step out of the way, let the cameron dwayne scott -- flu go. you can see the rain, i mean the storm surge coming right up on the street. i want to take you over here. there's really the most dramatic scenes -- you can see the spray coming up as the storm surge is coming in. this is u.s. 90.

this is the main drag along the gulf of xhoemexico, where peopl come to take their vacations at the beach. i think if we look way over there i see some people standing in the grass and just beyond them you can see the waves as they come in with the storm surge just crashing. and as you noted this is all happening at one of the higher tides. so that's hading to the storm surge. which it's kind of hard for me to calculate but since we've come down the hill and we were at 11 feet this might be somewhere between six and seven feet of storm surge. again, i'm just doing a rough calculation here based on where i was to where we are now. but yeah, the water keeps coming in. it's rising up where where we are. so i think the storm surge is continuing to come in with the wind action and the wind. wind is a big part of all of this because the wind is actually pushing the water onto

shore here. >> kerr write, we're looking at the palm trees in the distance. is that where the beach is supposed to be, on the other side of the palm trees? >> no, that's u.s. 90. oh, just beyond is there -- i don't know which one you're looking at. the far side, yes, that's where the beach is. i think the better way to look at this is come over here to the right. just look at where knees guys are to the right and just a little bit to the right. because right there just where the waves are crashing just beyond that is u.s. 90. that's the road right there. >> and there's two people there. and they have asked individuals not to be standing there. and here we have two folks just standing in the midst of that storm surge, kerry. >> reporter: well, i think what they did is they grabbed some high ground. the problem is when you think you're on high ground and then the storm surge gets you real quickly. i just want to explain that when you're standing on what you think is high ground it can knock you over quickly.

and when you lose your balance is when it's dangerous. k get off balance, get taken down, and then you're in the water. and don't forget in the water there's all types of debris floating there. it could be a two-by-four or some driftwood and that could weigh 80 to 200 pounds and if it hits you it could break your leg. there's all types of dangers associated with this. and right now it looks like they're on high ground. but nonetheless we're not too far from there. we're on a sidewalk where i think we can make our way quakely if we need to again. we've come down from where we were 11 feet above sea level. i'm going to guess we're now about six, eight feet above sea level. >> is the water still coming up? >> yeah. let's tilt down here and show you. here's where we are on the sidewalk. it looks like it's gone back but we'll see if it's already been up as far as -- well, you can see the debris line right here.

>> that's a good sign, though. >> a lot of that is driven by the wave action. >> that's a good sign. because the eye -- your winds should be starting to calm down a little bit. >> now it's reaching that pile, that very point. >> it's a little deceptive because we're on the 150id of a building and the building is blocking the actual wind from where we are. i'm trying to look at the trees and the trees themselves look like they're getting less wind than we saw earlier. >> is the water into any structures that you see or is it just parking garages? >> well, actually, from where i am i can't see it in the structures but we do know the golden nugget, which is not far from where we are, got the first floor flooded. i've not spoken to the folks over at the hard rock but they had indicated that they feared that might be a problem. that may be actually the case right now. see there?

okay. cameraman dwayne scott is wugs here. he's just skeepg out some locations to see if there's a better way to get a shot. the it's a little dupt. when we talk about storm surge you rarely get an opportunity to see it unfolding like this. i know it's dark but it's really quite dramatic to watch the storm surge come in as it has done here during the storm. and of course really the reason we're able to see the storm surge is remarkably the power system is holding. so the street lanterns are on and with the lights we're able to actually see as the storm surge makes its way from the beach over to u.s. 90 and further inland. >> is this consistent with what dwayne scott and kerry sanders are showing us with the imminence? you're saying any moment right now you're going to get official word probably that the eye's hit? >> this is more because of the eye's the center of the storm is making landfall. the winds shifted -- the water's piling up now as much as it's

going to after the center passes over them the winds will relax and the water will begin tug down. you're looking at about a four-foot storm surge in biloxi. that's what four foot of storm surge, add another foot to that. that water's about five feet higher than it normally would be right where that camera is showing us. there are two palm trees there. there's a bridge in the background. there's supposed to be a beach in between that bridge and that palm tree i believe from what the camera man was showing us. >> you've got that correct. that's a great explanation. so the light you see in the background is part of the bridge. then you have the beach prior to that. but then you have the land, the beach and then the trees and u.s.-90 right here. i think people are following sort of the lay of what it is. it's hard to determine because it looks like is that just the beach? but it's not. that's u.s. 90. >> some amazing pictures we've gop.

>> reporter: this is why authorities were telling people not to get in their cars and go out. because it kind of feels like this is not a bad hurricane, the windtion not blowing so hard. people who were ignoring the e-mail, thank goodness we're not seeing any indication of krarz that were planning to drive there. because we were to be in this area even if they had themselves a big pickup truck they'd be in trouble right now. >> you're well done with the strongest winds you're going see with this storm. how would you describe the winds with this storm? if you didn't know this was a category 1 hurricane, would you have thought this was only a tropical storm? >> reporter: absolutely. i would not have thought this is a hurricane. tropical storm force winds. i'm not even sure i experienced hurricane force winds. i've been out in a lot of hurricanes and i've stood in a lot of winds, and i just don't think that we saw anything near

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we are live this hour here on msnbc. breaking news as we're waiting for just the official calm moments for hurricane nate to make landfall for the second time now on almost a sunday local time. this is biloxi, mississippi. almost midnight. and there watching the storm surge for us is kerry sanders. there right at the waterfront. kerry, you were saying earlier about four feet. you were watching the sidewalk there as a way to measure whether it was rising or not. what are you seeing now?

>> reporter: i'm going to show you a guy. this is really not a good move. but if you look over here -- well, he's kind of going around the corner walking out into this. this is very dangerous. i've actually put myself up, i'm on a wall so, my feet aren't even in the water anymore. i've moved myself up on the wall to get a little bit of high ground here. because you can see the water, it continues to come in. and again, this is really a -- it's like a textbook example of storm surge. we don't usually get a chance to see this. and it's remarkable that because we are seeing it at night the power is on so we can actually have the area illuminated. it's all driven by the wind. you have the hurricane-force winds that are pushing the water, and it's just continuing to push the water. and then here it just comes up and you can see it right here. are and i've seen it now -- okay. it looks like the water drops but then you see it kind of

rising there, a little bit more. i'm not sure that the storm surge is over yet because it looks to me like it's continuing to climb up the hill here. it's a gentle slope but it looks to me like it's continuing to climb up before it's going to drop off. the wind is certainly not the hurricane-force winds we may have had earlier tonight. not that i've experienced them. i'm going to hop down here. step out of the way here and let you just sort of see what is, again, repeating. u.s. 90 here. the main road. and then just beyond that would be what is the beach. right here along the gulf of mexico. and we should probably begin to see