the fact that his secretary of state called him a moron. i think it's fake news. today the white house said that the president was joking. trump also escalated his war of words with gop senator bob corker today, by ridiculing his height and h height. and that his reckless threats could set the nation on the path to world war 3. the president tweeted this today. the failing "new york times" set little bob corker up by recording his conversations, was made to found a fool and that's what i'm dealing with. the "new york times" said that the interview with senator corker was recorded with corker's knowledge and consent. one more dollar in the fib jar for donald trump. phil rucker, white house bourea

chief. and chief washington reporter kimberly atkins and associated white house reporter and nbc analyst, former advisor to rand paul, now nbc analyst elise jordan, and former secretary of state and nbc analyst. your by line is on my favorite stories for the last 24 hours, take me through the president as a little teacup short and stout. >> it's interesting we have tried to get inside the white house to try to understand what has been motivating the president's apparent public rage and found a familiar story, which is that he's been fuming, he's been upset, he's been brooding over a number of issues and one trump confidant said he's like a little teapot.

that if he doesn't blow off steam, he will blow. so that's the impression of the president's state of mind at the moment. >> do you have any reporting on that lunch, with i think it's safe to call him an embattled secretary of state rex tillerson. >> the white house has said that it was a productive lunch. secretary mattis was present as well. mattis has been somewhat of a broker between tillerson and trump. there has been sources that tell me that to bring tillerson and trump together to smooth this out. there's a desire at the white house at the highest levels by general kelly. >> kimberly atkins, let me play

the president weighing in on this latest crisis of his own making and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> did you undercut the secretary of state today with the iq comment? >> no, i didn't undercut anybody, i don't believe in undercutting anybody. >> what i heard today from a trump ally is that once trump takes it to little marco, my iq is bigger than his iq, he's clearly sort of broken the barrier, he's in the trash talk territory. and it's very difficult for anyone to pull him back until those tactics are seen to have failed. and we have some proof points today, with his poll numbers i think plunging in rural counties with his legislative agenda, we haven't even talked about how dead it is. but it is quite dead. we really could see the president sort of stuck in the mud. do you sense any intervention is imminent or do you think the president is just having his way on twitter while everyone spins around him trying to contain the

crisis? >> i think in part the intervention is the cause of this, i mean i think as phil said, i also have heard republicans who have expressed a concern that the more john kelley sort of creates more stability and structure within the workings of the white house, the more that sends the president to express his frustration. he doesn't really like working in that kind of condition. so he expresses himself verbally and in, you know, things like that, when he's talking about the iq in the new yorker piece, or when he's on twitter in the comfort of his residence, where the chief of staff can't see him, it's sort of the more structure you see on one hand, the more volatility that you see that he's not under the control of john kelly. >> i think i'm the only one at the table with a 5-year-old, but dealing with trump is parallel to raising toddlers.

but there is this railing against too much structure. i have heard from a trump ally today, that there are tensions between john kelly and members of the national security team that go under reported because people are desperate for that to stay functional. that there are tensions on the personnel front, they are open cabinets that are leaderless, and there are tensions around the president's personal conduct. that it is a known known, that general kelly does not approve of some of the president's conduct. but that is sort of a basket of things that are untouchable for this chief of staff, that he's simply trying to manage everything below the line as we have described it. >> he's trying to manage the processes around the president. he can't really manage the president personally to a sense of his own deep frustration. the president is very frustrated too. his whole business career, he had an open door, free wheeling

style. certainly the results were not a factor in terms of legislative accomplishments but he himself very at home in that environment, and not in the more straight laced more disciplined approach that john kelly is trying to impose upon him. so we're seeing that steam let off with details. first of all where he recycled that little routine. >> what is it is inteli ining le with two ds? >> and with an apostrophe at te end. >> the kind of the liddle. little goes with size, with i'm bigger than you and i'm a bully on the playground. >> i have always been in favor

of copy desks, it keeps us all from making all kinds of mistakes. >> he's not eeneeds a copy edit. >> he spells like a toddler, like a 5-year-old. we have to be careful about covering the president's moods and how tempestuous he is. >> but his statements are official white house statements? >> whether he's seething and whether he's like a teapot, we're playing into the narrative that he likes, as a narcissist, he wants people wondering about his feelings from moment to moment all day long. what's important is what's going on in the white house in terms of policy, and reporting is about reversing president obama's -- if we spend all of this time covering his personality, we turn it into a reality show. >> let me just say that the reason we cover his mood is

because a close trump ally today told me that while he's likely to do something dramatic and reckless to distract from things he doesn't like in the news, he thinks it's more likely to be that he would rip the country apart, not that he would launch a nuclear war in north korea. not to mention his state of mind. because it's hard to know what he will do in his state of mind. >> that's a really bad -- rip the country apart or start a war with north korea. >> we know we enjoy this is culture war that he started with the nfl. we know he enjoys weighing in. the reason we focus on his tweets is because they are so disconnected with what he reads from a teleprompter? >> the tweets are actual policy. that's fine to cover his moods and to cover that kind of thing maybe is not the most --

>> this is a president who governs by impulse, he governs by his mood. so understanding his mood is to help understand his -- he makes decisions based on who's got hiss ear, who told him what piece of information and how he's feeling on that day and that's why we focus so many reporting resources focusing on his mind set and what he's got in front of him. >> he also isn't a student of policy, so when you were looking at what george w. bush was going to do on stem cells or on iraq, there were people that would come in to the white house who would weigh in on stem cells, there were figures from his father's national security establishment -- he's not steeped in policy, so he's not bringing through the west wing voices to educate him on policy. so other than his moods what do you think drives his policy

decisions? >> he doesn't have policies he has moods, he doesn't have ideas, he has feelings. but he's circling around and doing that all the time. particularly his disagreement right now with rex tillerson, i think it's really important to keep it in context. there are some significant foreign policy crises that this country is dealing with right now. the north korean nuclear program, a decision that's going to be made within days about the iran deal. that's something we have to keep in mind, that's something that really does matter, that he's mad that the secretary of state called him a moron. that we should have iq tests. but we also know that those aren't his priorities, resources have told people close to trump for weeks that the number one thing he's talking about that the number one thing he remains obsessed with is the nfl feud, the idea with the flag is personalized, when they take a knee, they're taking a knee against him. that's something he can't wait

to relitigate day after day. >> this came to light this huge personal feud and rex tillerson reportedly calling donald trump a moron because of north korea, because donald trump was unhappy that rex tillerson was trying to negotiate with the chinese to get something done with north korea and donald trump says there's only one option. so by undercutting his secretary of state, this and that really upset bob corker, set off this train wreck of we're calling it a simmering tinderbox, because it actually is, because these emotions are driving our foreign policy. >> we have all piled on you, go ahead, rick. i mean, let me ask you a question. i mean, if you were still -- >> by the way, the moron comment allegedly was because he compared the renovation of the 21 club. >> which is in your opinion moronic, yes or no? >> i don't think the analogy holds. >> is it moronic?

>> moronic was only defined in 1910, it's for people who only have an iq between 50 and 70. and his temperament is because of of -- >> i agree with the point that the moods drive the policy and that's the importance of it. i talked to people, even national security experts. they worry that rex tiller s er and key allies throughout the world do not trust the word of rex tillerson and this is all because of a personal beef between the president and tillerson. this is because they're name calling each other in the background and in that sense, it's a hugely important deal and we're seeing this happen again and again, whether it comes down to health care reform, whether it comes down to national security, whether it comes to

tax reform. it's affecting every aspect of this president's agenda and i don't think that he himself even realizes always how his impulsiveness is shooting him in his own foot. >> we found some tape of him talking about what he looks for in his subordinates which should be a red flag for anyone serving in the cabinet. >> you have to keep great people around you, you have to motivate them, you always have to be on top of them and you have to be smarter than they are. i hear so many times i want people to be smarter than i am, that i always wanted to be smarter than the people around me. >> rex tillerson leads in business as a private sector businessman, tillerson was a real businessman there. i don't know that the cabinet

members want to get into this iq tit for tat from the president. they were selected for their iq positions because they have some expertise of what they're talking about. and, you know, we'll see, i mean mattis is a separate figure, mattis is hugely respected at the pentagon and with the military and is seen as really the adult figure in the government right now. >> notes on the lunacy, you said the cabinet doesn't want to get in a tit for tat from the president. that is what the cabinet has ended up. we are not talking about the president fighting with democrats, we're not talking about the president fighting with foreign adversaries, we're never talking about the president fighting with russia, we're talking about the president fighting with his cabinet members. bannon warning, quote, nobody's safe. also ahead, ducking for cover,

gop lawmakers for the most part head for the hills when put on the spot about corker's assessment that the white house is an adult daycare center. but are there dangers ahead for an increasingly embatled president.

these people have no respect for the working men and women in

the united states. i tell you what, senator corker is an absolute disgrace. if bob corker has any honor, any decency, he should resign immediately. he should not let that stand what he said about the president. nobody's safe, we're coming after all of them and we're going to win. >> steve bannon inflamed by senator bob corker's claim that gop members privately question president trump. let me read you something from the "new york times" and ask you to respond on the part of your old boss. "the new york times" reporting trump's fight with corker -- the caustic exchange with senator bob corker of tennessee on sunday came at a time when mr. trump could ill afford to lose

the support of even one more republican. as chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, mr. corker has significant influence over appointments and legislation important to the white house. i think it's important to always remind our viewers that senator corker is not in the category of a jeff flake or a john mccain who have very comfortably parted ways with this president. he's a close ally, he was reportedly on the list as a candidate for vice president, he was on the list as a candidate for secretary of state and he is simply responding to what he sees and is troubled by, is that your understanding? >> that's right, senator corkcorker is disturbed about what's going on in the world. he's going to vote for the policies that are right for this country, and there's a lot of common ground between him and the president. i think what senator corker is trying to do is explain to the president this is not helpful. and you can't go around lighting

up members of your own party and expect to advance your legendive agenda. >> from congressman dent, he's one of the few people who took up and defended the president e's comments. >> we have had a lot of those the emperor has no clothes -- my colleagues in the house and senate are disturbed by much of the dysfunction and disorder and chaos at the white house. >> jameal, i hear this over and over again, and i hear from my own sources that paint a very similar picture to the picture that senator corker painted that it is simply managing around the crises created by the president. why do you think we only need two or three fingers to count the republicans who are willing to say out loud what dozens upon dozens of republicans say behind closed doors?

>> the reality is there are electoral consequences here, and you have to account for that. and people recognize that donald trump won with a large vote. that being said, it's important for the president to work together with his allies in congress, he's got a lot of them. and you can't torch mitch mcconnell, you can't torch rex tillerson, you can't torch those people who have been with you and then expect them to vote with you. >> part of the problem is that republicans are trapped in the same cycle of abuse. i have said over and over again, that if mitch mcconnell and paul ryan treated the president the way nancy pelosi and chuck sc m schumer do, where they go to the white house and meet on issues which -- outside the bounds of normal political discourse, that he might actually respect them

more. >> it's a pattern that began with the campaign and it's continued. that republicans including republican leadership are sort of cowed by this president, they're afraid of the tweet that's going to come thundering down with their name on it. and even though president trump's poll numbers have slipped, he's still largely popular among his base, they know there are people out there who are trump voters, i mean willing to abandon their party if the president says so. it would be hard to imagine, and bob corker is an exception, but some of the leadership, it's hard to imagine them really breaking with this president until, say, next summer when their poll numbers are so bad that their seat in congress is in jp. jeopardy. >> anyone who listening in the car, lots of people listen in the car, we have got approval numbers among rural voters since february, they're down from 55% in february, to 39% now, you've

got the approval number going down from 39% in february to 47% in september. if you're in the white house, and you see these numbers, they worry you, especially when the president's got the gas pedal down on the floor on the kind of cultural issues that brought rural voters on your side. what is the word from the white house on these numbers and do you think anyone has shown them to trump? >> i don't know if trump has seen this specific set of data, but i know the white house advisors are looking at this political data and trying to hold on to their base and solidify it. and one of the reasons you've got trump bringing up these cultural issues, that loss in alabama, it was an embarrassing defeat for luther strange who trump had endorsed and actually campaigned along side in huntsville in the days before the election, but roy moore had said some pretty outrageous

thing but galvanized the voters in alabama. so that's a real cause of concern for trump and his political operation. >> also another input in the feedback loop, what phil just described is that trump has to trust in his own gut as a come pass. >> i think the more we see these poll numberings go down, the more frustrated he becomes, you will see him more on the attack against republicans on the attack against the establishment. just today, during the press briefing, sarah huckabee sanders was pretty tough on republican lawmakers, really saying that it's their fault and doubling down on the criticisms of bob corker. i think the more you see that,

the more you hear steve bannon calling for change and calling for these lawmakers to be challenged. that's going to fire up the president even more than anything that the folks inside the white house can say. >> let me see if i can get to the soft underbelly of the former diplomat in you and read this from the washington most, avenue nearly nine months of the trump m many of america's closest allies have concluded that the hoped for learning curve that they thought would make president trump a reliable partner has not happened. the idea that he would inform hy himself has not happened. let me just say that somebody who edited one of the magazines, i take it back. but just this idea that his state of mind and the way his sort of frustrations build have made him an unreliable partner, have made america an unreliable

partner. >> that's absolutely the case, and i'm going to start with bob corker. i dealt with corker a lot, he was head of the senate foreign relations committee. i didn't agree with him on a whole lot of stuff, but he did his home work, he was the mayor of chattanooga and he learned about foreign policy, and he figured it out, he tried to make the right decision, and he's exactly what a congressman should be. they might even understand rex tillerson, they don't understand donald trump. by the way, if you think our government is stratified and bureaucratic, we're like apple compared to foreign governments, they are so strateified they don't know what's going on. they can't imagine what's going on. that can turn into a real danger. >> at this stage in the game, what we -- it's delusional to

think that things are going to be otherwise, you really are wondering how this trifecta of adults in the room, something that, a phrase that the president really doesn't like, how they are going to manage and keep up their discipline to continue this marathon and deal with these huge foreign policy challenges and also not repulse the president and turn the president against them. and we have seen tillerson struggle with that just this past two weeks. >> my thanks. when we come back, breaking news into the investigation into the massacre in las vegas, we'll talk to julian moore about the nra and the time of trump. was for langoustine ravioli. a langoustine is a tiny kind of lobster. a slight shellfish allergy rules that out, plus my wife ordered the langoustine. i will have chicken tenders and tater tots.

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today in the investigation into the shooting in las vegas. a hotel security guard was shot six minutes before the gun marine opened fire on the music festival. one thing we learned in the early days after the shooting is that stephen paddock used at least four guns, he also used a device called a bump fire stock to transform his weapon into a machine-gun. julianne moore has joined the fight to pass common sense gun regulations. we're so glad you guys are here. first i want to take you back to president obama's 2013 state of the union address. >> just three weeks ago, she was here in washington, with her classmates. performing for her country at my inauguration. and a week later, she was shot and killed in a chicago park after school.

just a mile away from my house. her parents, nate and cleo are in this chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote, the families of new town deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the

countless other communities ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote. >> i showed you that because president obama put the entire weight of the american presidency, every ounce of the prestige and the stature of the american presidency behind doing something, anything for all of those people. and it seems like with this debate, we careen from tragedy to tragedy and nothing ever changes. how do you guys stay in the fight? >> you have to. i mean you absolutely have to. it's what you were saying, oh, julie, when you see this, you're going to start crying. and i have met a lot of people who were in that tape and so every time i realize that they have lost a family member due to gun violence.

after sandy hook. i thought i just can't bear this as a parent. it's something i have to do. >> you talk about freedom, you talk about the freedom to do. >> they should have freedom to go to a concert, they should have the freedom to go to church, to walk down the street, people talk about a congressional amendment to own a gun, but we also have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. >> a contest wrote a piece that got a lot of attention, maybe opening up a conversation about the second amendment, he said that the intellectually honest way to have a debate, is to say this isn't what was intended, that we're an armed population, this was a right to bear arms against foreign militias. >> there's no doubt that the second amendment debate ought to

be looked at. the nra tried to characterize its an absolute right. but rehnquist went of his way in writing that amendment, like background check, like making sure that domestic abusers can't get their hands on gruns, like making sherr that people who have been admitted to mental hospitals can't get their hands on guns. the interesting thing about the debate is that there's lots happening in the states. the states are taking this issue and treating it seriously. since sandy hook, 24 states have passed laws making it harder for abusers to get guns. what's amazing is these are common sense measures, they are actually legal under any interpretation of the second amendment. and they save lives. and the american public is

looking for answers. and at the moment where we have had the worst mass shooting in american history, the nr arknra answer is let's relax our laws, let's make it easier for people to get guns, let's deregulate silencers, let's make it possible for the person who got a permit in the state that had the weakest law to carry it anywhere in the country. that's their answer. >> julie, you were part of an organization that is structurally set up in a way that could grow into the kind of organization that's grass roots in nature, that's got -- that some of the best legal minds i know in washington working within the confines of the laws. but how do you match a president who was one of the -- that the nra has never endorsed someone as early in a primary as trump,

i don't think they have spent as much money on a candidate as donald trump. this is one of the tightest and most comfortable relationships between the president and the nra in american history. >> i think it's important that everybody acknowledge the nra represents gun manufacturers not gun owners. the majority of gun owners in the united states believe in common sense gun laws, the majority of people in the united states believe in them. it's easy to feel overwhelmed, thinking they're too big for us, but we are larger in number. and shannon watts. >> mom's in action, was given birth after sandy hook now has 4 million members. and using their voice, the truth is as julianne says, the nra actually supports common sense measures. >> lawful gun owners support gun

laws. >> 64% of nra members believe in universal background chkecks if you believe in gun owners in general, it's about 82%. >> just taking it from the near tragic, from the very tragic to the near sub line. you have played a whom who likes to shoot moose, you played sarah palin and you and i met when you were sort of studying for that role, and i was off my own very raw wounds from a political scandal. >> and you were my source and i never revealed you. >> not until right now. but i think that we had so many conversationse conversations, there's some extraordinary scenes in the field where you stand before crowds talking about populous raids, did you see in this

year's presidential election that made you feel like, i of all people should have seen trump coming? >> i feel like a lot of people did. i think that the way people handled him as an entertainment, as a reality performer, i think that excited people in the media and people watching and unfortunately, we have a tendency to reablgct who peopleo are charismatic or appealing, which is what happened with sarah palin and with trump. i don't believe that that's true. >> despite the roar and the thumps and the feeling of enthusiasm that you hear particularly when he goes into states and has these events. everybody predicted given that the nra sent $30 million on his campaign, that they would have ca carte blanch to pass anything they wanted after trump's election.

reciprocity, silencers, neither have come up for a vote. in 2017, i predict the first year of his presidency, neither of those will be passed. >> this goes to your point, that you're fighting grass roots with grass roots and that the gun owners aren't necessarily in line with what their lobbyists are doing. it i have to ask you about a big revelation in your industry, that harvey winestein has sort of carried out a decades long pattern of preying on women. and your dwooets, coming forward about sexual abuse -- stand with ashley judd and rose mcgown and others. i just want to ask you if sort of being one of the most respected and accomplished

actors in hollywood makes you feel like this says more than just i'm with you ashley and rose, but to all the younger women that you have their back? >> i think it's important, i think it's important in any kind of situation to speak up, just the way we kind of speak up about gun violence and gun safety too, because the more people talk, the more people come forward. we are social animals, we all want to feel included and to be heard and to know that people have our backs, absolutely, because it is a scary thing and it's important that we rectify the situation. >> you tweeted an article that i also read and retweeted, george clooney had an analysis, it's one thing to know that he was sort of a perv. it's another to know that abuse was ongoing. i don't know, is hooeltd dllywo >> i have never had a personal experience with this. i was shocked.

i didn't know that he had settled with eight different women and different cases keep coming forward so to me this is egregious and shocking. >> i think that when women see someone like you having their back? >> i think we all have their backs. when these incidents occurred these women were very young, it's very difficult to be 21, 22, 23 and feel like you have any personal power. it way different when you're 40 or 45 and to say, no, this is not for me. but these were really, really young women when that happened? >> 2 story, the new development today is that gwyneth paltrow and angelina jolie were in their 20s? >> everything is new, i think that any job when you're entering the workforce, you don't know what you're supposed to do, you're just trying to do what you're told to do and you're trying to figure it out.

i think that anyone who's in a powerful position to have a voice that's equal to theirs. >> and sarah palin, there were a lot of people after the fact that said how could you work on that campaign and not talk about what you saw, so i know what it's like on the backside of a scandal to be questioned for what you know and what you saw. but i think it's really important that you came here. do you have any final thoughts? >> i have to say that, you know, there's some parallels to this, because women are the ones who are going to bring this issue over the line. >> that's correct. >> there's no question about it and women are stepping up to the nra in a remarkable way and julianne is somebody who's actually giving them voice and helping them stand up by saying i've got your back. >> shannon watts in particular. >> remarkable that they have taken on this fight when people in congress wouldn't take on the fight. it's sort of like the bob corker thing, well, everybody agrees with bob corker but nobody's going to say it. everybody knows that the nra has

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so president trump is back to tweeting about the nfl this morning. continuing to stoke the fire of the national controversy. but the league wants to put an end to the discussion. commissioner roger goodell stated u like many of our fans we believe that everyone should stand for the national anthem, it is an important moment for our game. we want to honor our flag and our country and our fans expect that of us. we also care deeply about our players and their concerns about critical social issues. the controversy over the anthem -- we need to move past this controversy and we want to do that together with our players. according to an nfl spokesman, the league's owners will consider a rule change that would require players to stand during the national anthem at an upcoming meeting next week. jonathan, elise and rick are back, elise jordan, is trump

winning this debate? >> absolutely, and one of my good friends, a political operative, his classic lines that he loves to use is the difference in winning and the difference in being right. dona winning. he may of the be morally in the right place about this, in my opinion but he has won issue, it would be better for him if this continued for an entire football season and he had it to fall back on when he doesn't want to deal with the discussion about polly fatal yours. >> he is not making it easy on the nfl? >> no, certainly right. he is reigniting the controversy every few days. it's clear as we said earlier, this is something he has grown obsessed with. if the nfl put together this rule what happens in two weeks when like a star player or two takes a knee? what approximate the starting quarterback of the dallas

cowboys takes a knee is jerry jones going to bench dak prescott because he wouldn't stand for the national anthem? this is what nfl fans are talking about. they are not talking about the 5-0 chiefs or the patriots defense. >> let's stay on the patriots. where is tomorrow brady. >> he was seen with a make america great again hat in his locker room early in the campaign has sfad silent. he certainly hasn't been as outspoken like his peers in other sports like lebron james who criticized the president at every turn. he did not visit the white house, donald trump hasn't said his name since, which case he is angry about that. he link arms with teammates. didn't take a knee but that was a sign of some protest of the president, a sign of solidarity with his fellow players. >> yes, and let's look at -- i mean your question noodles around it a little bit.

let's look at the racial characteristics of this. the nf is played by 3/4 african-american men who brutalize themselves to entertain people and reward the owners. are the owners really not going to stick on the side of their players. >> i can't imagine it. so -- stay here. >> it's about advertising, right. >> it's about advertising. and it's about -- i cannot imagine, for every player that takes a kneel, that dmeels during the anthem which in religious settings is not a sign of disrespect at all. >> right. >> they are the voice. they largely see themselves as voices for the voiceless. i cannot imagine the league going against the players. >> by the way, the flag stands for free expression. there is no worshipping of our flag. >> what is happening. >> the flag is symbolic of these things. these are african-american athletes that are standing up for free speech. >> the battle has been lost, what the original protest was about, it was colin kaepernick

protesting police brutality. it is no longer. it has been twisted into a statement of protest against the flag, protest against the troops and distorted. >> distorted by trump. >> let me -- >> my last reading of the constitution i don't remember the word national anthem being in the constitution. did the framers really want to protection the national anthem and the flag? i don't think so. >> i'm with you. let me put up the president's tweet. to jonathan's point he is obsessed. jonathan pointed out that the president woke up this morning tweeting about not the humanitarian crisis in puerto rico but the nfl, tweeting this, quote why is the nfl getting massive tax breaks while at the same time disare thing our anthem flag and anthem. code tax law. and about jamele hill. he tweeted with jamele hill no wonder things at espn have tanked and tanked so dramatically. why is he critical of hill?

>> he doesn't like being criticized by anyone, particularly women or minorities. he does not like being criticized by large media companies. there are a number of those also. she to him represents that. let's walk back to what happened on sunday. vice president pence flew to an nfl game. he went into the game. >> the team that started it all. >> the 49ers. the team that had every sunday the players kneeling. they knew exactly what they were getting. they knew when pence walked in there to pay tribute to retired peyton manning, he was going to see players kneeling. trump told him when that he happens, you walk out. reignite that. they knew this was going to happen. reporters were told we are going the stay in the vans, anticipate an early departure. we are probably not going to stay here very long because of exactly that. they knew what they wanted.

thatway on the the fight. >> is it more pathetic that pence planned it and wasted money, or is it more pathetic that the stunt was called in by his boss? >> >> both are pretty. >> call time. >> mike pence participating in this is just so insidious. the kind of, you know, acting like he's so above it, this walk that he has tried to pursue, where he really is the sane stable one. but then he shows his true colors. he showed his true colors. i feel that was a day that -- a football game but also a celebration of peyton manning. if i'm a colts fan i would be annoyed. >> 20 seconds. >> i'm going to go back to what i was saying before. we were playing on trump's playing field when we spend all this time talking about social issues that are not important. >> the nfl is going to change a rule. >> this is about criminal just reform. >> nfl is going to change a rule. do you think we should let the

president harass the nfl so that the owners are going to change a rule. >> don't pay so much attention to it. >> we are going to keep covering it. we are not listening to rick. we are also going to sneak in a very short break. we'll be right back. i write them a poem instead. and one for each of you too. and one for each of you too. helen: cool. that actually yours... that one. yeah. regardless, we're stuck with the bill. to many, words are the most valuable currency. last i checked, stores don't take words. man: some do. oh. (alert beeps) not everyone can be the poetic voice of a generation. i know, right? such a burden. pay back a friend day is october 17th. get the bank of america mobile banking app today.

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another front. >> we bereave the president is innocent. he is telling us he's innocent let's clear him and move on. but there are people around trump who say -- -- at this point he has ignored that instinct. >> we know the gut economist whisperers usually win that does it for our hour. i'm micolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts now with katy tur in for chuck. >> if it is tuesday, it's complicated. >> tonight, republican feuds, how the president's escalating fights with member of his own party are complicating things now and in 2018. >> we are on the right path right now, believe me. >> reporter: plus climate control. the e.p.a. declares an end to the war on coal as democrats plan their next clean power battle. and hillary clinton un