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yeah. start saying yes to your company's best ideas. we're gonna hit our launch date! (scream) thank you! goodbye! let us help with money and know-how, so you can get business done. american express open. good morning. welcome to "politics nation." the trump white house is a growing chaos for staffers and according to a report this week, the president himself. we'll talk to a former first lady michelle obama's chief of staff on how the current administration stacks up against the previous one. and will the nfl cave to president trump's wrath? as the league refutes speculation that its players
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will be mandated to stand up for the national anthem. team owners, team owners will meet this week to make their pitch to players on a way forward that ends the pregame protests. more on that in a minute. first, president trump's week seemed to lend credibility to a vanity fair report this week that he is "unstable, losing a step, and unraveling." he ramped up his feud with the first amendment. he killed subsidies for obamacare insurers, hdessertfie the iran nuclear deal, he withdrew from the united nation's cultural organization and suggested to puerto ricans that federal aid has an expiration date. joining me now is political reporter eugene scott of "the
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washington post." eugene, that's a bit much even for this president all in one week. we see the vanity report that he's, you know, just at wits end. he's coming apart. and when you see these erratic moves, some that politically doesn't even seem to make sense, what is your take on this? >> it seems like we're having a president who is still trying to get adjusted to a white house that many people who voted even for him said he wasn't prepared to handle. we're seeing someone coming into politics without significant experience and politics and facing many of the challenges that come from being a novice. we're dealing with very big issues, hurricane zaflter relief, nuclear deals, foreign affairs in a way that require a level of experience and cohesion that we're not seeing right now in this white house. >> we're in the tenth month. all right. so we're dealing with natural
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disasters. like with the hurricane and what happened in the virgin island and puerto rico. we're dealing with him saying he's not going to pay health care insurers. we're dealing with all the things i listed. but his reaction, saying that i met with the president of the virgin islands when he is the president of the virgin islands. unless he was saying he had a meeting in the bathroom in the mirror. i mean, and other things. are we watching a presidential meltdown here? >> i think as importantly many republicans as well, what we saw with bob corker speaking against the president wasn't just an individual personalized attack. he said that many people in the republican party are saying the same things that he said publicly behind closed doors. i think it's important to realize while this president enjoys low approval ratings historically low approval
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ratings, manufacture the people that sent him to the white house are still very supportive of him and we saw this this past weekend at the values voter summit when many of the evangelicals seemed to cheer him and praise much of what he said he accomplished these ten months. >> stay right. there i want to bring in a republican strategist and former aide to senator john mccain. thank you for being with us. >> thanks. >> give me your perspective. you're a republican. what is going on here? >> well, to be honest, i think precise lit kind of analysis that we just heard for the last couple of minutes here is precisely why the president is frustrated. i was actually with the president at a function this week. i don't see anything unraveling. i see a president very much focused on committing to fulfilling all of his promises. every one of the things discussed here whether it was an executive order to roll back aspects of the failed obama care
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plans, certainly his position on the iran deal which has been the worst deal. he's right. making sure that it's corrected is consistent with his promises. >> let me stop you there. >> sure. >> the question of rolling back the affordable care act, but to say that he's not going to pay insurers and that he's going to expand the ability of other offers to those in the insurance industry to give package that's don't deal with preexiting conditions and others will actually hurt some of the people he voted for. that to you means that he's making political sense? >> well, i think two things. quickly, first, those so-called subsidies have been by federal district court ruled to be illegal. they were never appropriated by congress. so that's been the consistent position on all of the --
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>> the president could stop it. answer my question. how do you see that as making political sense when his own voters will lose their health insurance? >> well, young people are going to benefit from this and now with what is available for larger -- >> you're still not answering the question. >> here. >> i asked you about the -- i'm raising your point. that he's keeping his commitment. his commitment was not he was going to hurt his voters. >> right. but the president obama also said you get to keep your own doctor. >> now you turn it to obama. >> i'll answer your question directly, al if, i can. >> thank you. >> i think what the president has cleverly done here and successfully done here is put this back on congress which will likely appropriate the subsidies legally. but there will be leverage in the congress by the republicans to correct a lot of the problems with obamacare. so what he's done is he set in motion something and congress that will ultimately result in i
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think a restoration of these subsidies throughout regular order. >> sow canceled the subsidies to go to the congress so they can reinstitute. so he is really, as we said, he is unraveling. wait, let me bring in former pennsylvania governor. >> he's not unraveling. >> ed rendell, adolfo and i who respect going back and forward here debating on the unraveling of the president and whether we're seeing a meltdown or not which i raise not adalfo. but beyond that, real people can and will and are being hurt in the interim, governor rendell, whether he's having a meltdown or not. we're talking about people that can lose their insurance. we're talking about people in puerto rico that are in with no power and no access to food and all while he's giving a expiration date. these have real ramification wlz he has a breakdown or not.
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this has a real impact on people's lives. >> there's no question about it. you're absolutely right, rev. and, look, first of all, it's bad politics. it's bad politics for him to do this for the reasons you say. it makes no sense. it's spiteful, mean aernnd despicable f the president was interested in doing something to reform the problems that obama care has, he can go to the democrats and the democrats are willing to sit down and talk about meaningful change. that's number one. number two, by doing this, he owns it now. a lot of them are his voters n talking about the change to open up that to companies who will offer nonessential package that's don't have the essential benefits, that's why people before obama care people who thought they had health care when they got sick, they wound
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up in bankruptcy court. they couldn't afford it. their policies didn't come with basic things. so he's helping all -- people we're going to bankruptcy court left and right before obamacare because we had companies who offered package that's when i was governor we wouldn't allow in pennsylvania. we keexercised our state licensg power said unless you cover this, this, this we're not going to let you sell a phoney plan. as for port heuerto rico, it's most humiliating episode. these are american citizens and right now we're virtually doing nothing to get water, food, and power to the nation. now there are obstacles, of course. but we ought to be trying. we ought not to be talking about pulling out feem yachlt you think we would be pulling fema out of alabama or louisiana? >> adolfo, answer that point. for him to suggest an expiration date we're not going to be there in the middle of our not being
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able to get supplies there, for him to go down and throw paper towels at people like we're at the zoo throwing peanuts at the pets and animals, i mean adolfo, even you have to question how he handled this. >> i don't. and i categorically, first of all, reject the president is unraveling or anything else. i saw him. he is very much in command and so is the vice president. but let me answer the puerto rico question. that towel throwing thing was -- he disrupted his president there disrupted line of people asking for supplies. he was doing that in the right spirit. saying, look, i'm sorry things are being disrupted. but the bigger picture is -- >> he was disrupting a line? >> he was there. he was giving a speech and people were -- >> he was in a place where they were handing out things to people. >> yes. >> he was not giving a speech. he was standing there. >>, no he was giving remarks and people were saying we're not
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getting the supplies that we're in line for and people received them were grateful. that didn't get a lot of coverage. the larger picture about puerto rico though is the following. i think general kelly got it right when he ratified the president's remarks. we aren't going to be there forever. that's what the president said. >> but do you say that in the middle of people suffering? >> well are we have enough supplies there. we are doing -- there is a distribution problem and logistical problem in puerto rico. the president visited there, the vice president, the resources are there. >> i realize you're not in that position. >> let me ask you one question just between you and i, governor rendell and eugene scott. does he realize he is the president of the virgin islands? i mean does he realize that? did y'all tell him that? you said you were with him this week. you said he met with the president of virgin islands. you have to admit, that's a littleror. >> well, i mean, look -- >> thank you, adolfo.
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director of the white house council on women and girls and is currently senior adviser for the organization of united state of women. thank you for being with us this morning. >> good morning, rev. great to be with you. you worked for both president obama and first lady. i certainly seen you countless times in meetings and things in the white house. i know how well you worked and how close you were both to the president and first lady. when you read all that is going on in the white house right now, as much as can you share, how does this strike you compared to whether people are agreed with the poll sifz the obama o administration or not, it was so disciplined, so fine tuned. how do you respond to the disarray that you are reading about over and over and over
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again? >> well, kinlt really speak to what is going on inside the current white house. but from my experience there, these are tough jobs. being president is tough job. you need have everybody in the white house pulling in the same direction. because you got the policies you want to do and then as you pointed out earlier, you got unforeseen things happen. the only thing become president with unforeseen things, you know unforeseen things are going to happen. so you need to be ready when a hurricane hits or when as we had when you get an oil spill in the gulf of mexico or when you've got disasters occurring around the country. and it's your job to support the american people when they're in trouble. all of our people. they agreed with him and spored him when he had certain democratic causes back and forth. i think the thing that most makes me a little nervous is having watched president obama up close probably more than most
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in the civil rights community. he was very stable, even handed, could handle tense and unexpected situations. almost with calmness. even president bush who i had several meetings with seemed a little more balanced. i don't think i've seen the personality and balance that confidence to the american people that he can handle the unexpected or for that maetter the expected. i think part of the job is a hard job is just by how you project yourself. it gives you a sense of security and safety and confidence to the american people. >> i'm a lawyer and one thing we say is tone at the top matters. you know, you got a ceo and
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leader who is ethical, leading the company in the right direction, that tone travel all the way down your organization. it's the responsibility of the person at the top to set the tone much that's one thing you have to worry about. it's one of the things when it comes to women and girls, i'm worried about the tone at the top. we had a president in president obama who did everything he could to support women and girls across america and around the world. and i'm really worried as i watch things unravel. you worked on jenld gender equality and women's issues. how do you see this administration so far in that particular area? >> i have to say, although they got some rhetoric like that they want to support laid leave, i was anxious and, you know, early on thinking oh, wow. republican administration that's going to deal with paid leave. that would be amazing. and instead, they unraveled everything.
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most recent is, you know, they are letting employers, any employer for any reason cut off women's birth control. that's 62 million women who got access to free affordable birth control, you know, under the aca, they're unraveling that. i'm deeply concerned as the mother af daughter in college right now. one in five young pim is going to experience sexual violence before she graduates from college. and she is unraveling the protections we put in place. >> so in ten months we've seen them deal with some severe attacks in terms of women's right to acquire birth control and we seen the roll back of title nine in just ten months. how do you then explain 53% of white women voted for donald
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trump and these attacks and these reversals impact them as much as anyone else. >> well, they do. this is something we studied for years to figure out the right way to get employers without a burden on them to report, you know, what they were paying, men and women. so that women could know whether they were getting unequal pay. and in six months, they undid it. without even thinking about it. i can't believe they studied it the way we stud qulad ied what in place. we need to make sure those 53% of women understand what is happening now. >> thank you, tina chin. always glad to speak with you. >> oh, it's great to be with you, rev. >> coming up, the most famous owner in the nfl has a plantation mentality. i'll explain. for your heart...
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and now for this week's gotcha, an addition fit for americans, america's team and america's game. let's start with just hours after our broadcast ended last week when vice president mike pence made like a jilted high school boyfriend, showing up at an indianapolis colts home game with the secret service detail. all just to make a big show of walking out when as predicted several players from the colts and the opposing san francisco 49ers continued their protest of police brutality by kneeling or locking arms during the pregame national anthem. the taxpayer funded public
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relations bomb is the most intimate example of how much the nfl has become no pun intended political football for president trump. who intentionally or not had exploded the public debate over the anthem protests late last month when he called for protesters to be fired by the nfl and used an explitive to refer to their mothers. then the nfl almost immediately closed ranks with teams releasing statements in defense of their players and calling for a league wide unity. critics rightfully pointed out the explicit social justice matter originated with unemployed nfl quarterback colin kaepernick was now being subverted by the same team owners and coaches that appear
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to have black balled him for making it in the first place. and all of a sudden made the league itself the victim. but at the very least, there was encouraging optics of a notoriously apolitical organization standing up for its players by taking a knee. and perhaps the most dramatic display of top down unity was that of dallas cowboy owner jerry jones seen here before a september 25th game arms locked with his players down on a bended knee. jones' performance of solidarity was somewhat surprising considering that he had once criticized anthem protests before president trump's late september attack and, two, $1 million he donated to the
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president and inaugural committee. i guess jones remembered all of this on tuesday because he told the "dallas morning news" that, "if you do not honor and stand for the flag, then you won't play." before i could properly drag jones for this about-face, espn anchor jamele hill beat me to it tweeting that a boycott of cowboy advertisers could send a corrective message to jones. espn sent a message to hillin stead, suspending her for two weeks. i wasn't having it. and i went straight to espn's headquarters here in manhattan where i had some choice words for the network but some choicer words for jones. >> jerry jones' decision in many ways smacks of a plantation mentality. and in essence, what jerry jones
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is saying is that you can bow if i tell you to bow. you can take a knee if i tell you to take a knee and take it with me, but if you want to do it on your own, then you'll be off the field. on wednesday jones reportedly told his players that he has taken this new stance to "play the bad guy and deflect attention from the players." mr. jones, you have succeeded. because as i said on tuesday, it takes a plantation mentality to tell grown men facing racialized conditions you absolutely cannot relate to that they can kneel when you brand it and be threatened by them losing their jobs they must stand while their lives are being threatened. the cowboys are off this week.
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so watch colin kaepernick. and then it got bigger and bigger and started mushrooming and frank lit nfl should have suspended him for one game and he would have never done it again. they could have then suspended him for two games and they could have suspended him if he did it a third time for the season and you would never have had a problem. >> and you would have never had a problem, says president trum thp week on fox news. selling more performtive
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patriotism to his base by teasing his on going feud with nfl players protesting during the national anthem. this as nfl owners prepare to find a mutual way forward. joining me now is lou moore, assistant pro fester of history at grand valley state university. he is the author of "we will win the day: the civil rights movement, the black athlete and the quest for equality." and jack brewer of former nfl player and now ceo and founder of the brewer group. he is also an ambassador for peace as sport with the u.s. federation of middle east peace at the united nations. let me go to you, lou. the nfl is meeting this week with the players association in some players. the fear that many of us have in the civil rights community is that they're trying to move away
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from the original intent of the protest with colin kaepernick and bennett and others to heighten the awareness around racism and police brutality. and turn it into something other than that. >> once the owner stepped in and whitewashed the protest and started to talk about terms of unity and once trump talked about really suppressing freedom of speech, everybody started to talk about that issue of freedom of speech and unity. and the players have to do a lot to get the protests back on track so we can talk about social injustice and police brutality. he did a remarkable job when he sent out an open letter to all the nfl players to talk about uniting, right, a black labor solitary front and also talked about police brutality.
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>> now let me ask you, jack. when you look at the fact that i remember five years ago when we were fighting for justice for tray vo tray vaughn martin and lebron james and others wore hoodies. and we raised the issue about eric gardiner, police killing in new york, team players and the basketball and nba had i can't breathe t-shirts on. so that's was a continuation of them trying to heighten their concern and attention on police brutality and racism. isn't it really a hijacking for owners to turn this into something else? players should not be pressured not to allow them to do because in effect the victims that were
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being heightened about it moves of others, those victims will be victimized somewhat again. >> that's what's so sad, rev. the message is lost. you know? i don't think all nfl owners feel that way. i must say. you know, i spoke to several of the owners.
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are you complaining about? you made a lot of money. did you well. i think that's even more the reason why it's effective when athletes that have everyone's respect, that everyone wants to take a selfie and has made money and whether we agree with how we bring the problem out, there's a problem here. i think that's why it was effective and is effective. but also why it should not be deflected into some other issue.
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>> no doubt. this is our stage. we got more of our voices heard now since colin kaepernick kneeled than we ever have in the history of our country. you have to always remember that. and take back to the solutions. and what are the solutions? i hope and i heard, you know, from my nfl sources that the league right now is really working hard on finding ways that they can promote the voices of the players and do more to put more resources behind this and at the end of the day and he'll keep on saying it, the solution is we need to get to our communities. we need to get to our kids so we can mentor them. because we have so many ep depic that's we're facing whether it is police brutality, going in our gun violence in our neighborhoods and we're seeing communities i just left baltimore a couple weeks ago. i think over the weekend 19 african-american men got shot. and those type of things is what we need to highlight. question do that through going and being positive role model. we don't need to come in and
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just bash police officers. we need to go and unite with them. a lot of police officers are men of color. i think, you know, if we all come together as one kpluncommu we can make a big impact. >> lou, i noticed that the president has taken his issue and tried to act like it's about the anthem and the flag when that is not what the players kneeling have raises issue. they're not kneeling against the flag. they're kneeling raising police brutality and racism, wanting the flag to stand for all americans. is it not noticeable to you as one who teaches in this area the president has made sure he is not discussed police brutality or racism at all under his administration? he's really making this something else so he doesn't have to be accountable for what he can deal with with his justice department? >> that's xakexactly right.
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there is on him. he still has sessions. and what you see is there are going to be a crackdown on crime and these players and the people who come from their community are going to baert bruear the b. that for him, it's red meethis . this is going to be red meat for him. they're going to make sure people that are protesting are grateful and build a political party that way. it's also doing it with black athletes. >> all right, thank you lou moore and jack brewer. thank you to both of you. up next, never before seen picture of african-american life through the lens of "the new york times" photographers and the stories they tell.
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this morning we're going to you the next few minutes to take a second look at history.
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at a part that has never been seen before. it's being brought to life in a new book called "unseen, unpublish unpublished black history from "the new york times" photo archives." joining me is the photo editor of "the new york times," darcy everlay. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> now when i went through the book, i mean it is fascinating. it goes back, way back -- >> 1947, i believe. >> that is reverend kendall smithen that is 1964. and the reverend was upset that confederate flag was on display at city hall.
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he took the flag down. >> city hall in new york? >> city hall in new york city. >> so it was an issue even then. >> it was an issue even then. and the reverend was arrested for rioting, interesting. you see in the photograph. >> reverend kendall smith is arrested for burning the confederate flag. how old is this? >> it has to be over 50 now. >> people think that this all just started. let me go to another picture. >> so this was the funeral for medger evers at the event. we ran a wire photo. this was a staff photographer at this event y did we not run our own pictures of the event? hard to say. it's possible that film never got back to them. >> this shefd the naacp in mississippi killed and this is his wife looking as they get
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ready to lower his body and lay him to rest. >> yes. and it's possible the film never got back to new york. it is also possible that george was shooting this as a feature for the "new york times" magazine at that time. >> the next photo? >> this image, dizzy gillespie, i love this picture. it is dizzy gillespie at a school in upper manhattan. the next day a photo did run with the story. it was a picture of gillespie holding his horn looking at the camera in a very small space. one of the reasons a picture like this might not have run is because they just didn't are the real estate and print newspaper to deal with a photo of this magnitude. they often would edit them. for the real estate that was available in the printed paper. now let's go to the next one. >> this is a great story. this is an image of an article
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that is actually a photo that accompanies this. it's a story about arthur ashe. arthur ashe in the 1960s plays a number -- there's the picture. played the number one seed player. he upsets the number wloser appe paper. >> two photos of the white loser appear. no pictures of the black winner. >> let me go to the last one we have time for. the next photo is? >> that's you, reverend. this is 1983. i found this picture in the archives. it was taken by photographer who was very indune with the community. don would often cover news and not necessarily because the times was writing an article. and i think in fact it was possibly up to four years after this picture was taken before we ran your picture in the pages.
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>> i remember that i was campaigning then for jesse jackson for president in '83. that's a lot of our youth saying get out and vote and all. i was stunned when i saw that in the "new york times" collection that you put together. thank you, darcy. the book is called "unseen unpublished". up next, my final thoughts on being recognized for spending 50 years fighting for your civil rights. stay with us. [vo] the grille is distinctive. but it's usually seen from the rear. the 2018 audi q5 is here. hey. what can you tell me about your new social security alerts? oh! we'll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites, so you'll be in the know. ooh. sushi. ugh. being in the know is a good thing.
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well, when i was 13 years old i was appointed youth director of operation bread basket, the economic arm of dr. king's organization by rev. jesse jackson. 50 years later at 63 at columbia
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university this week people spent the day assessing what we have achieved, what i did, did not do in my activism. former mayor, former members of congress, former governors and all. and the root.com did a profile on my 50 years of activism and what i have been involved with from spending nights in jail to being stabbed leading a nonviolent march against racism to dealing with the greats like nelson mandela and others. and every saturday having rallies in harlem that i still do. i guess the best i can say is that i made a lot of mistakes in 50 years, no doubt about it. the question is what you get done despite you rather than trying to justify mistakes or
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whether you try to eliminate them and only raise and embellish what you did good because there is good and bad in every journey. question is what good do you get done despite all of that. i suppose racial profiling laws and police reform and making sure corporations are fair in advertising and other things and voter registration i could list, but one of the things that i think that i am most grateful is to survive and still be here to make a contribution and challenge you every sunday to make your contribution whether it is my way or not. today i will walk my oldest daughter down the aisle. i never thought i would make it to see that. when i was stabbed, when i faced death threats, i always wanted to see my daughters grow up and
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