widow is fuelling a political fire storm between a florida congresswoman and the white house and plus more questions than answers about the ambush in niger where the soldiers lost their lives. now more than two weeks later the pressure is on the administration to explain what really happened. >> but we do want to start with the farewell to the sergeant da lafd johnson. and family and friends and strangers who wanted to pay respects gathered a short time ago for the funeral. today's services coming more than two weeks after four special forces died during this ambush in niger and less than a week after president trump's condolence call to sergeant johnson's widow. which set off this cringe worthy week of politics at its worst. >> well i guess, you knew he -- something to the fact that he knew what he was getting into when he signed up, but i guess it hurts any way. just matter of factually.

that this is what happens, she was crying the whole time. and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, he didn't even remember his name. >> didn't say what that congresswoman said and she knows it and she is now not saying it. i did not say what she said. and i would like her to make the statement again. because i did not say what she said. >> i was stunned when i came to work yesterday morning, broken hearted at what i saw and i remember congress doing. >> if you want to goat get into a debut with a four star marine general, that is highly inappropriate. >> we go to mia rodriguez florida where the funeral of johnson wrapped up a bit earlier and talking to mia but first to kelly o'donnell at the white house. and we know president trump is back on twitter today and in typical random saturday fashion, we got a lot of different tweets, but one of which aimed

at congresswoman wilson, not ready to let go of this feud. >> and it seemed that it was a reflection of the president watching television this morning because he talked about the media referring to congresswoman wilson and he gave her the whacky label. we have seen the president do that when he has a foe, he gives them a der ricive term and whacky congresswoman wilson is trying to tie her to the broader democratic party. it is that punching back, not letting it go side of the president. earlier in the week it was thought on the part of the white house that john kelly coming forward, the chief of staff and of course a gold star father himself, that that would tamp things down. instead it opened a new area of conflict when he game false information about congress woman wilson, he was remembering an fbi dedication, a building named for fbi agents who died while on duty and he gave false information about what she said at that ribbon cutting ceremony. she had not been claiming credit

as john kelly had suggested. so then the white house is pushing back saying don't question john kelly, a marine four star general, now retired, well of course he's also a civil servant paid by the taxpayers who came before the cameras and gavin corre gave -- gave incorrect information and so reporters questioned that. it is an odd turn back and forth and no one letting it go and today is a solemn day when sergeant johnson's family is feeling the grief of laying him to rest and yet this political bickering and name calling contentious tone has carried on for days and days. thomas. >> and the images are so compelling. for remembering sergeant johnson and his family for those that he leaves behind. kelly o'donnell at the white house. thank you. and now to florida. as kelly was talking about. sergeant johnson laid to rest today. hours of ago we had hundreds of people coming together to pay respects and many which never

knew the husband and the father, this military member. so it was a combination of of close family and friends, military members, and even perfect strangers. mia rodriguez is in cooper city for us. you spoke to the people that turned out today and what did they have to tell you. >> reporter: there were hundreds of people here, packed into the church behind me for sergeant johnson's funeral. the parking lot and the overflow parking lot full of cars. people coming from across south florida to pay their respects to this young man, 25-year-olds old and leaves behind a young family. like you mentioned, a lot of people did not know him personally but felt the need to come here and pay their respecs. they said during the funeral they talked about not just his military compliments but his deep tie to his community here in south florida and the family. the family is suffering, a tl was a procession that headed to

rt cemetery and they said it was important to be here for the family. here is what one of them had to say. take a listen. >> joining the united states armed forces is saying, i'm not in this for me, i'm in this for us. as a country, as a family, as a nation. and sergeant johnson gave his life to prove his point. >> reporter: now sergeant johnson was laid to rest earlier this afternoon in nearby hollywood, florida. that is not far from where he grew up which was miami gardens. he leaves behind a pregnant wife and their two young children. >> mia rodriguez reporting in cooper city, florida. thank you very much. and it really is a big reminder about what is at stake when we learn about losing a military member. and what their families are left to deal with, while all of this back and forth takes place between washington and congress woman wilson.

there are real people that have lost a loved one and kid that are will grow up without a dad. and joining me is lea wright riggar from the kennedy school of government and chris whipple film maker and author of the gatekeepers how the white house chief of staff define every presidency. it is great to have you with me and lee, let me talk about the president doesn't want to let go of the feud with congresswoman wilson. what does he have to gain? >> so part of what this is about is discrediting and really delegitimizing attacks against the president that really have the ability to cut some weight. the president has spent the last couple of weeks -- last couple of months actually talking about patriotism, talking about in the nfl program, the nfl protests, talking about respect for veterans and here we have this explosive situation with the death of four servicemen in niger and the president has

embroiled himself in another scandal of his own making. so what we're seeing here is his inability to let it go. but also trying to move the narrative away from the story or the investigation for these men. >> well and that is -- that is also a very important piece of all of this because we don't have a clear picture, chris, of what exactly happened, how this ambush took place, what these four officers were doing in the moment because there are conflicting stories and now it seems as if the president is using in a defensive posture his chief of staff john kelly to explain how this call went, how he was informed to make these calls and then we have john kelly going after congresswoman frederica wilson on thursday talking about the dedication of an fbi building back in 2015 dped cated to two fbi agents killed in the line of duty. but this is how kelly remembers that moment inaccurately. take a listen.

>> congresswoman stood up and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there and all of that, and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building. and she took care of her constituents because she got the money and just called up president obama and on that phone call he gave the $20 million to build the building and she sat down. and we were stunned. >> so there empty barrels making the most noise and the fact that she was not in congress when this was approved and the sun sentinel has video disproving the claim and they are calling on chief of staff kelly to call and apologize. does he owe her an apology. >> i thif he does. i think he could do it privately. it was a rough week for john kelly. there are no formal rules for

white house chiefs of staff. but if there were, one of them would be never go anywhere near a television camera when you are pissed off. now donald trump may give john kelly good reason to be angry every day. but he really imploded. he was ello kweoquent when he described the sacrifice of his son and fallen soldiers, but then he went off on this tirade that turned out to be false, about congresswoman wilson. and you know, it was really -- it almost like the last time this happened, with the four tar general was al hague running into the press room to say that he was in control. this was not that historic, but it is a real -- it tarnishes kelly and hurts his credibility and it will make his job more difficult. >> so when we think about his credibility, and your book writing about the gate keeps and the chief of staff defining a

legacy, what does this say about kelly for trump and this white house. >> in the last 72 hours we've learned a number of things about john kelly that we didn't know. i think a lot of people thought this guy was none ideological or take the edge off of donald trump's excesses. well maybe not so much. a really important thing we learned is that he is out of his depth politically. the the good white house chiefs, the jim baker and leon panetta and ken dubber steen knew when step in front of a camera, you are not speaking as a marine, you are speaking as the white house chief of staff and you are speaking for the country and you can't get down into the partisan trenches, you have to stay above the fray and a hurdle that john kelly failed to clear this week. >> and leigh, there is a discrepancy about the claim that he reached out to nearly every military family that lost a loved one during his time in the

office and roll call reporting not only has he not contacted all families of military personnel killed this year but they did not even have an up to date list of those killed and now an e-mail made public trying to get d.o.d.ond record for numbers and to make those connections. so that the president could do that. but also, lea, john kelly is admitting that he advised the president not to make phone calls to begin with and the president did it any way. what is your reaction in how the white house will process this week and move forward when it comes to this specific issue. >> right. so i think it is just another example of a white house that is in chaos. and we -- a lot of us assume that john kelly was coming in to kind of clean shop and clean up house, to run a tight ship. but instead we're seeing that trump is still calling the shots. and the determinant of how things go is dependent on how

loyal you could be to the president's -- his reality. so i wouldn't be surprised if we continue to see more scandals, more explosion, more implosions in the coming weeks because it is the trump show and what trump says goes. >> so when we think, chris, about kelly and the credibility, that he uses in coming out, because it was just the week before that we've seen kelly in there talking about not being fired and not quitting, and now we have him coming back out to talk about this issue, and going very personal. with that story of the loss of his own son in service to our nation, how he was informed by general dunn ford and it seems in telling that story to president trump and in that military way, the president tried to absorb that to use and cold call a stranger about the loss of a loved one and it just doesn't work the same way. >> well you know it was a real blunder by kelly and it suggests

to me that maybe this job is getting to kelly. you know, every new chief of staff if he is smart picks up the phone and called james a. baker iii reagan's chief, congratulations you have the worst blanking job in government. that is true when you are working for a normal president. when you are working for this president, it has been to exponentially more difficult. and the thing troubling and worrisome is that if last week is any indication, the job may be getting to kelly. i talked to white house chiefs of staff and former chiefs before thursday, and many of them predicted that he wouldn't last very long. this may be a sign that he's not cut out for it. >> well he has a lot of respect and he went into the job with a lot of respect. and it is a shame that people now have some revelation to feel as if that is questionable. as you are saying, it is very

ideological right now. >> everyone who enters the orbit of this death star known as donald trump is sucked in and damaged and tarnished by it. that is the sad reality. and you know, h.r. mcmaster has been smart to keep his head down ever since he went out and tried to defend the president's leak of classified information to the russians, way back when. barry mccaffrey said his advice to kelly was shut up. and maybe that is pretty good advice at the moment. >> we shall see. as we figure out what comes in the next week. lea, great to have you on, chris great to have you with me as well. i appreciate it. still ahead, what the new york times has reported, this headline about what fox news executives new and when about sexual harassment against bill o'reilly and this multi-million dollars payout that came before

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it is beginning to morph as we suppress the enemy in the mideast, they will move. they won't quit. and i will say this about the operations and i can't give details, they died in defense of america. this war is getting hot in places where it has been cool. and we have to go where the enemy takes us. >> senator lindsey graham after

meeting with james mattis over reports concerning this deadly ambush in niger as the present investigates the attack -- the pentagon investigates the attack, a convey of nigeran and american troops traced off islamic insurgents and a source briefed on the attack telling nbc news it was due in part to a quote, massive intelligence failure. so joining me now is nbc national security and military reporter courtney huey. explain the latest in this investigation because there is much more we don't know about connecting the dots. >> you are absolutely right. we don't know exactly what happened on october 4th than what we do know. and that is in part because the entire thing is still under investigation and secretary mattis but the military is careful about not putting out information and details about an incident while it is still under investigation so as not to cloud

it in any way or do anything to skew the results. what we do know as you said in the intro, there were 12 american soldiers with a group of military from niger and they were conducting a patrol and they were ambushed by somewhere between 40 and 50 militants. i suspect what senator graham was talking about in that sound bite was the fact that the latest intelligence is pointing to a newer group called isis gs, when is isis in the greater sa hall and an afillant not recognized by core isis. but the leader bagdadi, but it has been acknowledged. they are not necessarily an official affiliate but they are trying to become one. so of course what senator graham was talking about there is the spread of terror into africa. but this is a problem for some time. we've seen the french operating in mali for several years and

the mission there is to drive isis and to drive the militants out. there is an al qaeda presence throughout the area. al qaeda and the islamic maghreb up in the peninsula and there is a consistent and large presence of militants and throughout that entire area, thomas. >> courtney thank you very much. as linsey graham said, we know he is hawkish on areas but saying this is heating up. it is interesting to see how they are trying to forecast a new enemy or explain how we can continue in america's longest war. thank you. i want to bring in captain allison jazz low, war veteran and executive director of veterans organization iavi. and they are characterizing the patrol was routine, but peter alexander shouting that question to the president, did he authorize something that may have gone sideways.

what more and when do you think we'll know? >> you know, i think that remains to be unseen. the reality is that there were some real questions that are fair to be asked around this and unfortunately instead of answering the questions, a family has been caught in the middle of this and now we've had a five-day political debate and in the lead in you showed sergeant johnson's funeral just a couple of hours ago. it is -- it is mind-boggling to me that we've been debating this in such a political way for five days, and they didn't even get a chance to say final good-byes. >> it is happenings we speak right now. they are trying to process this and they've been trying to process it with the headlines, going back and forth, cameras today at the services. we don't get to see enough of that. i lost a grade school friend in afghanistan in 2007. worst -- one of the worst funerals i've gone to in

arlington. we don't get to see that. or know people that lose somebody. but do you think it is important that we see these images as americans and recognize and know that we have armed u.s. forces in harm's way every second of every day. >> i mean, i think if there is -- if there is any silver liner is that we're having a worthy conversation about the military civilian divide right now. not a lot of people have bracelets on their wrists like i do for buddies who died overseas and not many people have the personal connection that you do, thomas. we need to spend more time reminding ourselves not only that there are serve members deployed, but it is been until just recently, they move from the front page. when soldiers die, we should all stop and reflect. it should be front page news and not in the back of people's minds. >> the issue of the call and the type of conversation that was

had and the discourse back and forth, and learning from chief of staff kelly that he advised president trump not to call and no matter who is president, there are some families that will not want to get that call or some families willing or honored to take that call. in your experience, and what you know from seeing firsthand, what is it like for families to be notified. >> so i think it is very difficult. every situation is very unique and whether they would welcome something like that or not, it is totally a personal decision. i -- i was a summary report officer when i was deployed in iraq when a buddy of mine died and i packed up all of his belongings and was in touch with that situation and i don't know what i would have said to his family. and i think honestly this is something that isn't easy and i think that maybe i wouldn't have

delivered it direct correctly. but wish we had more humility about the situation and i think we are yearning for leadership right now. it has been far too many days that we've been debating there in such a political way and it is not -- it is not something that other gold star families in america need to be reminded of their own loss. >> exactly. and like the general kelly example. but i do think about that. all of the other gold star families that this would be so fresh for them. and the big deal is there is a widow and kids. they are going to have needs growing up. even from the greatest of the education to the silly offest could we move a bed or a couch and those are the times when it is important for family and friends, those calls to come in. maybe not now. two time iraq war veteran, allison jazz low. thank you. and coming up next, breaking news with "the new york times" headline about former fox news anchor bill o'reilly and sexual

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relevant information was obtained in a company investigation. now a statement from o'reilly spokesperson mark fabby is pushing back saying once again "the new york times" has smeared o'reilly and printing a sworn affidavit from his former lawyer and the times ignored that evidence and swore under oath and choose to rely on anonymous sources and incomplete leaked or stolen documents. joining me now is legal analyst danny after you los and let me start with how explosive is it that these allegations are coming to light now even though he is not a member of the fox news family, they did ultimately fire him, but if they were willing to negotiate in good faith before this was going on. >> it is very explosive, here is why. a employer could be liable for

harassment with supervisory authority and if they condone the harassment and in that category of condoning harassment is inaction in the face of known harassment. that is something that will make a company liable for the harassment and critical is ascertaining whether or not the company knew and when they knew and what they did once they found out. >> if they could -- what we've seen as what has been reported and substantiated in the past and they buy silence or the credibility to continue in good faith. >> first of all, it is problematic in a lot of circumstances. now in employee handbooks we have what is called binding arbitration. so even if you do settle, it is confidential and nobody hears about it and it is a public safety for women, that you can't let other women no what happened and if you take the money that

buys your silence. gag orders, confidentiality agreements this is the problem with weinstein, that the corporate issues and the boards need to be more responsible and the idea that that, with $32 million with bill o'reilly is shocking because what was the evidence, $32 million, i don't know about you, that is a lot of money. so there must have been some very serious liability. >> the times has some really damning headlines and nuggets about what was exchanged to this person that was associated with the company in the capacity of a contributor. but then the accountability for news organizations. like a fox, when you think about it, they are a big corporation. it is not so much about accountability as it is the bottom line and this was a high dollar producer in terms of ad revenue that was still doing a good job in terms of eyeballs. >> you have to consider, as with any company, not a media company, any large company that

faces any kind of law enforcement, sexual harassment is but a small slice of the -- all of the different lawsuits that companies face and they often have to make a business decision. not really based on the merits of the case, whether they think they could win or lose at trial, but they have to decide, is it worth going through discovery, is it worth what people may find out through the public course of discovery, and is it worth taking this all the way to trial, paying attorney's fees and then maybe getting hit with a verdict. >> it would be i small slice but to the women getting harassed, that is a big issue to happen in your life that could affect you forever. so it may be a small slice, but i think ethics and principles needs to start weighing into the decisions that corporations are making and they are not. >> and it is important to individual plaintiffs but if you look at a large corporation and liabilities, it is a fact that the harassment cases may be leath -- large verdicts but in the grand

scheme, but as we have to keep in mind, this is unpopular, some harassment cases may be unfounded or not be built. that is why american law is set up so many different obstacles an proceduring things to jump through. >> $32 million -- >> absolutely. i'm with you on that. >> this paying -- noncorroboration. >> and this is not the first time we're hearing about it. >> and that is what is disturbing. the $32 million is in light of what they knew prior just like danny said. there may have been other instances and then ethically what does that say. that they are allowing women to be put in a position to even have this happen to them. and so there is a fiduciary duty and liability on behalf of the board holders. >> it is a myth that companies hand over that kind of money on cases that have no value and are nuisance valley. and large companies, and i've dealt with this, and maybe you have to too, routinely make their first offer in hundreds of dollars. they will routinely offer -- $200 for a case to go away.

>> and they are pretty shrewd about giving money especially now. >> i think we could go on for about an hour. >> we could. >> unfortunately. >> we could. >> you are right. karen, great to see you in person and danny, as well. and we get back to what former presidents have said in this time of divisive washington, d.c., what they say is a time for unity in this country and a couple of the former presidents have called out the commander-in-chief. we have reaction after this quick break. called broccoli cheddar soup. i loved it, but it was like, "honey, i am way too decadent for you!" so i came up with o, that's good! a new line of comfort soups with a nutritious twist. we replaced a hunk of this... with velvety butternut squash. if i hadn't told you, you wouldn't know. comfort food that loves you back. o... mmm ...that's good! when i was too busy with the

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welcome back, steve bannon former white house streif strategist has declared war on republicans and last night in a speech in california he took aim at george w. bush with the california gop. >> speech writer wrote a high falluting speech and it was clear he didn't understand anything he was talking about. there has not been a more destructive presidency than

george bush's. >> he was talking about a rare bush speech on thursday which many saw as a thinly veiled condemnation of president trump. so joining me now is victory defrancesco from the lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas and joe watkins, and former white house aide to george h.w. bush. great to have you both on. and let me just out of the gate here, joe. the power that bannon has, and he apologized ahead of time to the bush people as he referred them, is he that powerful? to really send a shock wave to establishment republicans that they've got something to fear in the mid terms? >> well i don't know how powerful he is. we'll certainly see. he had influence in the state of alabama in that senate primary obviously. but i don't know whether or not he'll nationally have the same impact. >> certainly at the end of the day, people and republicans and democrats have to do what is right and be on the right side

of the issue. so when it comes to standing up against bigotry and casual cruelty and those kinds of things, as long as you are on the right side of that issue, and you are against bigotry and against casual cruelty, that kind of thing, they are you are on the right side of the issue. george bush give gave an excellent speech the other night and did the same thing that president obama did that gave an excellent speech, they spoke as americans, not as republican or democrat, but as an american president speaking to the people about what is right. >> what it comes to what is right, politicians say you can't declare what is right or wrong until you actually win. so what is bannon out there doing to drum up that type of defining line? because all of the points that you are talking about would put him in a tark contrast to many people would consider right. >> well the trump base is maybe different in many places from the republican base.

and it certainly the 2018 mid-term elections will give us a better sense of whether or not there is a difference between that base, the republican base and the trump base. but bannon was talking to who he thinks are trump based supporters and not necessarily to republican voters and the republican supporters who may be more mainstream. so we'll see. go ahead. >> it is shocking when we see steve bannon or a george bush showing up on the stage and not even mentioning donald trump, but sending a direct message toward the type of politics that we are seeing in this country. president obama coming out on the stump and also using his time, victoria, to go after this white house and talk about what this country needs in terms of inspiration and leadership. but here we have a week where we're caught up in headlines about how the white house wants to dispute how a gold star family remembers exactly the

conversation that they had with the president and a chief of staff who comes out to defend that conversation and then inaccurately goes on the attack after a florida congresswoman. so how do we get back on track? >> thomas, we feed to g-- need get away from the distractions and regrettably what we've seen in the trump administration and even in the campaign is using elements of race and ethnicity and immigration to take the focus away from some deeper heavier issues. so here the question about who said, she said, is getting us away from tax reform, from health care, amajor overhaul on immigration and this is a pattern that we have seen in trump. he takes his shiny ball of whatever is happening and then he moves it around over here so folks are not paying attention to who is going on. and i this think bannon helps in stoking those feelings. bannon in his speech was

continuing a civil war going on in the republican party since essentially 2010. the tea party is one of bannon's babies. so i think we're seeing a gearing up for 2018, replay of what we saw in 2010. >> so we talked about the distractions and i have to ask you, the president tweeted today and we get this random predictably random tweet storm on weekends. but talking about the releasing of the jfk files. and as someone who is in texas and you are there at the lbj school of law, this is a big deal. and there are a lot of people out there that hope this would put to rest any conspiracy theories. but this is not something that we have a date or a time line on, it is just up for further discussion. it could be triggered to happen. >> i feel like it is a teaser, thomas and he will come out in the tweet storms and tease us

with something that is very momentous because the death of john f. kennedy was a turning point in our country. one of those things that is a bench mark historically speaking. so it is a teaser for right now. whether or not he goes through with it is a different matter. but i do not think it is appropriate to use something as delicate and momentous as this as i teaser. >> well and typically we probably think of notification like this of the president as not a teaser, but base the in contrast with the other tweets, it definitely seems out of tune. it is just -- it is kind of odd that we would say that. victoria and joe, great to have you on. thank you so much. and a war of words between what is happening this week and a bold threat of north korea. a report from pyongyang after this quick break. for your heart...

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now for the very latest in the russian probe with senator john mccain being the first republican to sign on to this proposed new piece of legislation. it is is co-authored by mark

warren and amy khrolobshaw. president trump tweeted about the russian investigation. he tweeted keep hearing about tiny amount of money spent on facebook ads. what about the billions of dollars of fake news on cnn, abc, nbc, and cbs? and officials behind this dossier plead the fifth. over the last hour from the president on this. joining me is former ambassador to russia. sir, it's good to have you with me. if it were to pass and facebook and google are forced to disclose who their buyers are, how could that influence this investigation, or do you think if it did pass that it really wouldn't enable what has already

been discovered? >> well, i think this legislation is designed to prevent the problems that we had in 2016. i don't think it's going to help the investigation itself. i think it's going to be a long, hard fight to get this legislation. i don't predict it coming into power any time soon. but i do think it's the right approach. this notion that the social media platform are somehow different from television, maybe that was the way four or five years ago. it's not okay today. we need to have the same rules. they are hard to enforce, but we need the same rules so we know who is providing this information and who is paying for these ads. >> when it comes to the measures to crack down on these bonus ads, we know that certain tech companies and social media say they are going to do their own internal process. why is this accountability so important in advance of the midterms in 2018? >> well, let's separate out two things. one is the foreign purchased

ads. the other is the fake news and all the disinformation. with respect to the foreign ads, it's my view that vladimir putin should not be able to purchase ads to help out an american candidate one way or the other. foreigners cannot contribute to individual campaigns. he doesn't have a right to purchase ads on facebook, vladimir putin doesn't. at a minimum take, we need to have more transparency of who is behind that free speech, including foreign actors when they choose to purchase ads. >> a lot of us, if we look at folks in our circles and maybe not in the news business or use platforms to pull information that maybe they haven't personally vetted or even

personally understand, they are complacent in a way they don't even know of being enacted in a larger web. is there really any way to crack down on that with what we understand social media to be? >> well, there have already been attempts by some of the platforms to have third-party people to make assessments on it, to put signs up that say we don't think this is appropriate. i think more regulation actually with respect to that so they don't have to make these individually. especially vis-a-vis their competitors but they are the same rules for everybody in this game. >> former ambassador to russia, so great to have you on as always in thanks for having me. >> we're back with more after this.

hi, everybody. good afternoon. i'm thomas roberts. on the same day family and friends are paying respects to one of the soldiers who was killed in niger, president trump continues to go over congresswoman. the president tweeting i hope the fake news media keeps talking about wacky congresswoman wilson in that she as a representative is killing the democratic party. president trump doesn't have that military experience much like his three predecessors with the exception of gorge w. bush in the national guard. kelly has been his most powerful voice in the military, especially on this week's controversy. >> he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was kil