. >> when i was going to cross the street, i hear a loud commotion come from behind me, i come back from where i was crossing the street from, i look out and i see a truck going down towards chambers street, i'm saying, what's going on? as i go down more, i see two -- he's clearly in the bike laner, when i go down, i see two gentleman laying right there in the bike lane with tire marks across their body, you could tell they're not here no more. >> based on the information we have at this moment, this was ap act of terror and a particularly cowardly act of terror, aimed at innocent civilians. aimed at people going about their lives who had no idea what was about to hit them. >> we have lived with this before. we felt the pain before.

we feel the pane today but we go forward towing and we go forward stronger than ever. we're not going to let them win and if we change our lives, we contort ourselves to them then they win and we lose. >> the go-to terror tacking the we've seen in london, berlin, barcelona and nice has now come to new york city. eight people dead, 11 injured, after people said a man drove a truck along a bike path leaving a trail of destruction in his wake. police say he then jumped out of the vehicle and in the shadow of the world trade center he screamed allah akbar. this video then shows the suspect running through traffic with something in his hand. police say he was armed with a

pellet gun and paintball gun. he was eventually approached by the officer and shot in the stomach. you see a photo of the suspect being detained. good morning, it's wednesday, november 1st. willie geist is on scene in lower manhattan. on set we have msnpc contributor mike barnical, former special agent clint watts, washington bureau chief julie pace, former commissioner of the new york police department, now senior law enforcement for nbc news bill brattan. the suspect is an uzbek national who entered the u.s. in 2010. it wasn't immediately clear under what circumstances he moved to the united states. law enforcement officials say the suspect left a note in the truck kram claiming he committed the attack for isis. willie will have more in just a

moment, officials say six died at the scene, two more died later. argentina's foreign affairs minster has confirmed five of the people killed in this attack were from that country and were in new york city celebrating the 30th anniversary of their high school graduation. belgium's foreign affairs minter says one of the victims was a national of that country. they have not released information about the final two victims. joe. >> you know, willie, when my children found out about the attack, they asked, where was it? was it in time's square? was it on wall street? i explained to him, no, it's on the bike path we always saw, going down the west side highway, while it's not a marquee name, that bike path is somehow symbolizes the new new york of the last 20 or so years, where it's where everybody

floods to up and down the west side, talk about that and the 15 where are you now. >> it's a greenway, joe, that begins up at the george washington bridge, at the school house, down the west side closer to battery park city where this attack took place yesterday t. man the 29-year-old uzbek national lived in ohio, tampa, florida, most recently in patterson, new jersey. from what we know rented a truck at a home debo just across the river probably would have taken him 20 to 30 minutes, came out of west halston street, on the path, only one place where the entrance is wide enough to get a vehicle down the path, drove down and struck eight people, injuring 12 others, many hit from the back, five from

argentina, we learned one from belgium. clearly, this is a popular tourist hub. it was just after 3:00, too, on halloween, there are schools here, stuyvesant high school is behind me, ps 89, an elementary and if 89, the middle school, kids are getting out for halloween in their costumes. we have been hearing stories, guys, of parents, there to pick up their children, thinking they saw an automobile accident. two fathers going over to help a father emerge with what we now know to be a paint gun and pellet gun the assailant in that case t. father running back pushing kids back into the school in their halloween costumes, where they then sheltered in place. what we know so far about this guy as i said, a 29 u.s. bell national. he came here to the united states on a green card he worked

for uber as a driver and has been removed from uber's website. there is tons of police activity behind me, fire trucks, police cars moving as we go. but you put all this together, joe, eight deaths, 12 injuries, including some people on the school bus where this crash ended behind me the man in his car hit a school bus. two children and students injured as well here, joe. >> hey, you know, also, it's very interesting. halloween, for people that don't know about new york don't know about living in new york, there was a good place, people shut down entire blocks. it was always the day my kids looked forward to the most i think every street that did this, it was decked out, it was festive, when this happened,

there were so many that said, oh boy, a lot of kids won't understand why, but these huge events will be cancelled. >> that wasn't the case, new york city didn't let this slow them down. you were actually out last night. what a great testament to the men and women of the nypd. >> >> reporter: i have to say, had this happened a few hours later, you mentioned 69th street on the upper west side, they block off two city blocks so the kids can walk up and down the brown stephen homes to houses decorated and get their candy, there was a heavy police presence, they were there anyway, but it was kep stepped up. they had police barricades and of course armed officers standing there. this hung heavy in the air. i tweeted out and put on

instagram a video because we seen this horrible carn annual behind me, yes to make their kids happy but also as an act of defiance. the parents few what was going on, it seemed like that played out all over the city. they marched hours after this attack on chambers street. >> willie, i saw that video that you put out on instagram, a lot of others brought tears to my eyes. in new york, that's what we are, we are defiant, resilient. at the same time there is the fever of what's next? this has come here. we've seen this abroad. people using anything they can, even trucks as weapons. >> is is now the way of the world, the fortunate resilience, we were fully inspirational.

we will be standing today where this horrific terrorist incident occurred. ironically the tribeca area on the lower west side of manhattan was restored, reback in a minute, revitalized after september 11th. >> right. >> commissioner brattan, what happened yesterday is happening all over the world, the ease with which someone can do this, citizens of the world have to get used to, the most interesting aspect, people wonder, the ease with which you can went e rent a vehicle and do this, there are safe guards they are working on and building up. tell us about that if you could. >> my predecessor ray kelly after the /11 created a program shield, eighth commission where the security directors of thousands of country companies in the tri-state area are kept informed through e-mails and

notification procedures, several sessions held each year to keep them updated on what's been on. as part of that effort, we are continuing changes. i seen several years ago, we began advocateing simplistic types of attacks, get a knife, a gun if you can. we saw the hatchet attack on four police officer when i was a commissioner inspired by isis, this enables those terms all the time, based on the note that the idea that the nypd swent subsequent to some of these counterattacks elsewhere, works with the various represental companies to reminds them periodically, be on the alert for somebody that seems to be off. is there something happening, paying with cash. little things they teach these companies to watch more a. majorest. a little thing that might deter a detect. obviously it didn't happen in

this. >> a big challenge for the new york marathon this sunday, which will go on as planned. >> appropriately so. >> appropriately so. we will talk about some of the safe guards that have to be considered t. suspect is in the hospital shot in the stomach, not talking. what are the possibilities any information can be brought from him? he left a note apparently about isis being the reason for to the attack. >> i think in the immediate after math, we will look at the attack. was there reconnaissance, it's interesting, it's one of the better places in the world of an attack. in terms of connections being to isis, we will wait to see how quickly do they take claim to him or whether they had any knowledge of him before this attack? my guess is they're probably caught off guard and enaware. we got to remember the islamic

state right has almost fully decimated iraq and syria. we saw raqqa fall, mosul a month or so before that, at a time when the islamic state has been almost defeated i don't have seas, we are seeing these inspired attacks around the world and in the west first lady melania trump is in new york city for previously scheduled meetings when the attack happened. she posted to twitter her heart breaks for the city. president trump also reacted through twitter and the white house press office, in his official statement the president offered his thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families. he pledged full support to the nypd through a joint investigation with the fbi. he also thanked the first responders. on twitter he initially posted quote, in nyc, looks like another attack by a sick and deranged person. law enforcement is following this closely, not in the usa.

he said, quote, we must not allow isis to return after defeating them in the middle east and elsewhere. enough. around 9:30 last night came this tweet -- . >> joe. >> yeah, julie pace, of course, here's another example of another attack that donald trump tries to fit in his what he calls his extreme vetting program to, that could stop an attack. now he's president, he's been president for, you know, nine, ten months, this happened anyway pause this will happen on any president's watch, if somebody has a truck in the city of 8 million people and decides to run up sidewalks. is there talk about -- this suspect came here seven years

ago. right? and obviously, regardless of what the vetting process donald trump had in the way. this would not have stopped this particular attack, would it? >> there is one of the realities we are dealing with right now. can you put in so-called extreme vetting as the president says, you can barn entry from certain countries for six months, a year, but you are never going to be able to put in all of the safe guards that would prevent someone who could pass all of those screen, comes to the u.s., radicalized here, inspired here is actually complete i on their own. we see the president use extreme vetting, take a tough stance, one of the things he had to gram with as president obama may grapple with, is there may not be anything you can do and that's a difficult thing the president can say to the country. we will be vigilant. there to some extent is a

reality we have to deal with as americans. >> well, you remember this summer in london after the spate of attacks there, we looked at everywhere we went, looked at the thousands of people right up to you know busy roads and both said to each other there's only so much london can do. there is only so much new york can do, all it takes is a mad man or an idiot who decides he or she wants to go up on the sidewalk, so donald trump is have been critical of the mayor of london and did not offer condolences when london needed them during their spate of attacks. i thought it interesting immediately after the attacks yesterday the mayor of london sent his best wishes from the

entire city to the people of new york. >> let's go to lower manhattan. willie. >> reporter: yeah, i am joined by a former fbi agent ali suban who led the attack on the uss cole in 2000 and after the attack of september 11th. on the pieces we know so far, 2010, a between-year-old on a green card, uzbek national. what are you looking at to put the pieces together? >> we still have a lot of things we don't know. was he directed by isis? he comes from uzbekistan, that's interesting. they had 1,500 foreign fighters who joined isis in iraq and zim syria. the former soviet republics are the number one contributors for the estate of iraq and syria. does he have connections with terrorist groups in uzbekistan before he came to the united states? what kinds of connection does he

have with isis today in places they still control in iraq and syria. there are a lot of unanswered questions, they can help the direction on the right path. >> reporter: this idea of inspired rather than directed attacks, which we've seen so much of lately. as an fbi act what can you the to prevent that, we can go to a home depot, locally rent a truck and drive down two blocks behind us and kill eight people in a matter of minutes, what do you to do to stop that? >> frankly there is not much that can be done to detect or deter, they require little planning and are spontaneous in nature. we see more and more this inspirational kind of terrorism, we see people go from the radical phase to the mobilization phase overnight. law enforcement, nypd do an

effective job and they have been disrupting a lot of terrorist attacks like this. here, it's very difficult to stop each and every crazy person who just want to drive a car and hit plans on the roads. what we are witnessing is the weaponization of every day life r. we know they are in pat terson, new jersey, his last known residence is. what kind of questions will they be asking about this man? >> reporter: well, was he always, you know, like this? was he always an extremist? we seen the long beard the shaved mustache, looking at him. he adheres to the jihadi concept of islam. was he always leak this? did he change after he came to the united states? why does he change? does he have other people in his network in the united states in

his community who are you know who share his ideas? was he acting alone or did he have help? a lot of questions still need to be answered. >> thank you very much. we'll be talking to you shortly. this is the kind of reaction a lone wolf terrorist or inspired terrorist would hope for in terms of reaction of the president of the occupation to be able to rent a truck at a home depot kill people, a low impact and get the president to come out and to divide america. >> that is the hope of the terrorists. >> the president played into the hands of the people like this terrorist. the more important as picture now begins the long trail of electronic detective work. does this american person have a relative in uzbekistan perhaps a

brother killed. if you can figure out who he was, what he did online and what do we do from here? >> new york has the best task force the nypd and fbi and other agencies the at the present time cals that go out from this incident are massive in the sense of all the different places he will seek to reach, back to where he came from. where did he live in the united states? where did he live relatives? massive investigation. >> that does require the resources of the federal government and its many agencies. in terms of in morocco the issue will be what can we learn to help to try to prevent it from the future, other things about this that might be new in terms of the world of terrorism as it continues to expand? so the food thing is in our country that we have

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. >> of course, we're following the few developments with the truck attack in new york city.

we will go back with willie fwieft in just a moment. first, there was new information this morning from the court filings on former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. a 17-page document laid out manafort has three u.s. passports each with different identification numbers, he submitted ten makes over a decade. it also shows flubbing chu weighings in man a port's wealth, the filing says the defendants pose a risk of flight based on the serious nature of the charges, their history of zichtness and sophisticate sentences they face the strong evidence of guilt, their significant financial resources and their foreign connections. manafort and his deputy rick gates have both pleaded fought guilty this comes as chief

bannon is reportedly telling the president to take on special counsel bob mueller. the walk post cites three anonymous sources who say bannon has spoken to trump by phone if recent days to urge a more aggressive strategy but stopping short of firing him. the president has not accepted bannon's advice so far, sources say, meanwhile, chief of staff john kelly said in a recent interview the president is looking for the end of the special counsel's probe as it is taking a toll. >> we're in great hopes it wraps up. it is very distracting to the president as it would be to any citizen to be investigated for something while at the same time trying to carry the weight of what being president of the united states mean on his shoulders. >> distracting would be one way to put it, joe, from what we're hearing the white house is in chaos, spinning over this, also

the description as to why manafort and gates might be a risk of flights might be staggering. >> it is, i have to go back to steve bannon's recommendations, whatever they are we showed a poll, steve bannon, a man who has convinced the press core he got donald trump elected and has convinced the press core he is the mad genius between donald trump's ride, has an 8% approval rate. 8% of american versus a positive view of steve bannon for whatever reason and so i doubt anybody inside the white house will be looking at a person with an 8% approval rating and decide to take on anybody. because that also, julie pace, i

find it fascinating, i'll speak for myself, not you and the reporters that i talked to, not you. when donald trump fired james comey, steve bannon let every reporter in washington, d.c. know that he fought it, fought it as hard as he could, but it was donald trump and jared kushner, boy, they must have something in their past dealings bannon would say with a nod and a wink that he said, don't fire comey, don't fight this but now it's just the opposite. now steve ban isn't saying publicly, hey, you into ed to take on mueller. >> yeah, steve bannon and his allies managed to get that out there quickly after the comey firing. but steve has his one gear basically. that is to fight. >> that is to push back against whoever he views as the

establishment. in this case that's bob mueller, it's because steve bannon is a skruptor, it's his whole m-o. you wonder if he's looking out for the president's interests in this case. if you are president trump right now, your beth strategy is to let it play out if it will, if it takes done people like palm manafort and potentially people who are even closer into your iner circle right now. there is no benefit of the president of being aggressive with bob mueller, perhaps firing bob mueller. this is nothing for trump. so you do get the sense that bannon is pushing for more strategy. it's more in his interest because of his efforts to disrupt the sfaebment much less in the best interest of the president. >> you also get the impression early on, bob mueller, if he got fired, if they started talking

about charges that donald trump could cannot pardon, could not swoop away. i think you are exactly right. bob mueller will win that fight every time. let's find out about manafort. here is a man who spends a lot of money. hundreds of dollars on suits, almost what a million dollars on rugs and furnishings in a short amount of time. he does, he actually does fit a pattern of somebody that over extends himself and as you can figure out why the guy was $15 million in debt allegedly to a russian oligarch. >> yeah, it's fascinating. i think these documents that

came out yesterday are more interesting. you see so much context around all of this money the flit risk justifications are apparent. we are talking about somebody who had multiple passports, who recently registered a new phone potentially under an alias. he had been in china and ecuador as well as other places, there is pretty phenomenal to see someone moving so aggressive after coming out of the campaign last year. i think this case looks much worse today than it did yesterday. >> clint doesn't it also when you see someone that spins it extravagantly, doesn't this set somebody up for plaquemail? doesn't this set somebody up for doing these sorts of things that it seems paul manafort was doing when he was e-mailing back to russia, hey, does the big guy know what i'm doing for him?

are you passing on the food wor word? >> for the russians, this is a person that has multiple avenues in which you can compromise him. there is so much money moving through foreign country and his checking account. this is an opportunity to you want no influence a campaign. >> it's also along with all of this you've hired this person to head up your campaign and the candidate is so unbelievably carefully polite about russia an about putin and you said all along during the campaign, gentleman, i don't get this russia thing, something doesn't make sense. something is very, very wrong. it's all been -- >> by the way, we said that also to people in the trump campaign when they would get so harsh. why are you being so harsh?

what is your problem, et cetera, et cetera, one of the things we brought up, we don't get this russia thing. what is going on with russia? this was in i think june or july of 2016, we were like, something's going on there why are you bending over backwards so many up? why are you hiring people -- and they were, i don't know few thought about this, but while we were handling them on those questions, they were saying, oh, i don't know what you are talking about. >> exactly. >> they were meeting with the russians. >> manafort was running the campaign. >> manafort was running the campaign, they were meeting with russians while they sat there going we have no idea what are you talking about in real time. >> it's incredible arrogance at the very least. coming up, we go back live to the scene of yesterday's terrorist attack in lower manhattan.

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the scene who are describing what happened. let's listen in. >> i just saw one guy just jump out of the car and just running around just shooting whatever i saw one guy jumping out of

the car. >> what vehicle did he get out of. >> the pickup truck. >> reporter: the home depot pickup truck? >> yes. >> some eyewitness accounts. i want to show you if we can push past me here. will you see through the light aptd past that police vehicle, the pickup truck driven by the 29-year-old assailant rented at a home depot in new jersey, 20-25 minutes, driven back into manhattan where he went on to a bike path killing eight people, injuring 11. the 29-year-old uzbek national is now in a new york city hospital l. se out of surgery, where law enforcement has a slew of questions for him. we are here in the shadow of one world trade about four blocks

away from the world trade center. these are the streets, few remember after 19/11, those toxic clouds of dust. this is where they were. here we are now 16 years later. i want to bring up louis bergdorf, you were outside, what happened? >> reporter: i live about ten blocks north of here, we originally thought someone was hit by a vehicle. a pedestrian hit. as i got on to that bike path, i realize it was a lot more than that. there were multiple people down, cyclists. just as emergency responders arrived on the scene, they started to attend to these victims, especially one gentleman i saw lying next to his bicycle, they were doing

xeft compressions and cpr on him, he was not responsive. a lot of people, there are a lot of questions, ooum mores float around. people said they heard gunshots, all the eyewitnesses said he was moving at a high rate of speed again, this was a difficult crime scene, the first responders were running up and down that bike path, trying to find victims, getting to people. assessing how bad they were. there weren't enough in the beginning. and to the scene wasn't cordoned off cars driving by, it was scary. >> reporter: we know there was a new york city police officer on

patrol. was there a presence to respond quickly? >> where they're close to the hol happened tunnel, there is police presence there, i couldn't believe how they arrived on the scene from the time i got outside onto the bike path and saw a bunch of people running, screaming, yelling the truck had bowed down, it could have been minutes before police arrived and run towards the victims laying on the ground. i thought it was an impressive response time. >> louis, thanks a lot. we will hear many more eyewitness accounts of what took place just after 3:00 yesterday. again as i said earlier, there are a bunch of schools around here, stuyvesant high school, elementary school, psine. on halloween so you had parents picking their kids up at school this attack started at 3:05:00

p.m.. getting elementary school children in costumes pushed pack in schools, they were all on lock down until the coast was clear and the new york department said the suspect was subdued and it was safe for children to come outside. >> willie geist, still ahead, in 2015, a ground breaking story, apparently truck attacks is now high often that wish list. frame joins us to reflect on this new stage in the terror group's evolution. "morning joe" is back in a moment.

>> i have been briefed. this looks like it has all the ear -- all the hallmarks of an attack by someone inspired by isis or al qaeda. >> that is congressman adam chif, ranking member of the intel committee. isis and al qaeda have called on

attacks and yesterday's attack was the latest. in july of 2016, 86 people were killed and 200 killed on bastille day. last november, 11 people were injured at ohio state university when a student carried out car and knife attack in another isis inspired attack. in december 12 people were killed in berlin. in march, five people were killed when a man drove an london. similar attacks were use inside stockholm, barcelona, berlin and jerusalem. analysts say it's nearly impossible to prevent a low-tech vehicle attack in new york city. you see them to spoekt large

gatherings. still, the new york city marathon will continue as planned according to officials, media events scheduled for today will be postponed. it snakes through all fiveboros. the organization behind the marathon said in a statement tuesday the safety and security of our runners, staff, volunteers and spectators is our top priority. we are constantly reviewing our plans with law enforcement and will consider necessary motdifications or enhancements. organizers have heightened security pearce in 20 learn and in 2013 after the boston marathon bombings. joe, again, there is only so much that can be done, having

said that, everybody will be alert and aware. i think i agree the marathon must go on. >>

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yorkers will wake up to new details about what happened, but tomorrow and the next day, new yorkers will also wake up and keep going because in an uncertain world, one thing is for sure. new yorkers will never live in fea fear. >> "late show" host stephen colbert reacting to the terror attack in new york city. eight people are dead, 11 injured after a man drove a rented pickup truck along a popular bike path, leaving a trail of death and destruction in his wake. after striking several victims and crashing into a school bus, police say he jumped out of the vehicle with what appears to be a weapon in his hand. police say he was armed with a pellet and paintball gun. he was eventually approached by an officer and shot in the stomach. you see photo here of the suspect being detained. >> with us, willie geist is on

the scene in lower manhattan. here on the set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, former fbi special agent clint watts and washington bureau chief for the associated press, julie pace. the suspect is 29-year-old uzbek national who entered the u.s. in 2010. it wasn't immediately clear under what circumstances he moved to the country. the suspect left a note in the truck, claiming he committed the attack for isis. e will have more for us on the suspect in just a moment. and we're also learning more about the eight people killed. officials say that six of the victims died at the scene while two more died later. argentina's foreign affairs minister has confirmed five of the people killed in this attack were from that country and were in new york, celebrating the 30th anniversary of their high school graduation.

belgium's foreign affairs minister reports one of the victims was a national of that country. the final two victims' information has not been released. >> tell us what you learned about the harrowing moments of the attacks yesterday. >> reporter: joe, the helicopters are still buzzing overhead. a block behind me is the truck driven by the 29-year-old uzbek national, who entered this greenway they call it, bike path, jogging path, north of where we are, and drove at a high rate of speed until he hit a school bus at chambers street, the street just behind me. hit a school bus, injuring two teachers and two students on that bus. got out of his vehicle, rented home depot truck he rented that day, yesterday, in pasaic, new jersey, just across the river, brandishing two weapons which we were to learn later were a

pellet gun and paintball game. a couple of fathers, wnbc new york affiliate tells us were at that school waiting for their kids, to pick them up to take them trick-or-treating. they saw him with two weapons, backed off immediately, ran back to the school and got their kids inside where they were sheltered in place. this is a 29-year-old, as i mentioned, an uber driver. he came to this country in 2010. his known residences have been in ohio, tampa, florida, and patterson, new jersey. 28-year-old new york city police officer shot the aassailant in the stomach, the abdomen. the assailant survived this attack. investigators will have any number of questions for that man. ali, let's start to put the bees together for our viewers here.

you hear uzbekistan, what does that tell you? >> that he comes from an area where we've seen a lot of people leaving to join isis in iraq and syria. uzbekistan has more than 1500 individuals who actually went to iraq and syria to join isis. this is not the first time we've had uz bechlt ks involved in terrorist attacks either inspire bid isis or acting on behalf of isis. in june of 2016, we had the terrorist attack in istanbul airport. that region is a number one region contributing fighters to the islamic state. this is kind of an interesting development that we have somebody who is an uzbek national here in new york, conducting a terrorist attack that seems at this point to be possibly inspired by isis but

still we have a lot of information. and we have a lot of unknowns here. >> you and i are standing in the shadow of one world trade, trade center, site of the attacks of the september 11th. >> terrorism returns to lower manhattan. this is not the first time we're talking about terrorism on this block. in february 1993, youseff also rented a truck, filled it with explosives and attempted to take down one of the towers, and he failed. al qaeda on september 11th, they were able to put down the world trade center. the street where we are standing, you and i, and the stre streets behind us, where the truck is now, the terrorist truck is now, you had thousands of people running up the streets, trying to escape the

carnage of 9/11. look, they built this area way better than it used to be before. and that is so new york. it is such a metropolitan area. it's a diverse area. it stands to anything and everything that the terrorists hate. and that's why new yorkers are resilient. that's why we will win and they will lose. >> it speaks again, mika, to where terrorism has gone since september 11th where those attackers took months and years and spent millions of dollars recruiting and training people to learn how to fly planes into buildings. this man walked into a home depot, rent aid pickup truck and killed eight people. >> willie, thank you. joining us from boston now, former assistant director of the fbi's counterintelligence division, frank figlusi. thank you for joining us. where does this investigation go from here? the suspect is still alive, not talking. and new york city has an iconic

event, the marathon, this sunday. >> right. so what's going on behind the scenes right now is a massive intelligence gathering effort that includes the whole intelligence community, cia, nsa, scrubbing their take to see if this guy ever came across their radar screens. there's international cooperation. this is now an international investigation, talking to the uz bechlt ki government, learning what they know about this guy. and then the treasure trove of the computer exam, once they get their hands on it -- they likely may already have it. to get the information of how he was radicalized, likely online. soft target attacks are our new normal. this is what we're seeing. and they're actually a symptom of our own success in eroding al

qaeda and isis capabilities to conduct a big iconic attack. i'm sorry to say but soft target attacks have become the new normal. >> mike? >> frank, in that vain, i can distinctly recall retired fbi director telling me years ago after the first world trade center bombing, they'll be back. they certainly did come back. and now we have, as you just indicated, the soft target bombings, the ease of which could be conducted by renting a truck. what can we do that we're not doing now to prevent these attacks? is it just almost impossible? >> nothing is impossible. but i think we need to look through a new lens. right? historically we've been looking through a binary lens. if a terror attack occurs, we failed. if a terror attack is prevented,

we succeeded. today the new dynamic is we have to contain and mitigate. let's talk about what we can do. fbi joint terrorism task forces have robust agencies with rental truck staff. we know they can be used as a bomb. what are the american people willing to accept in terms of privacy invasion? akin to purchasing a gun when we go to rent a truck? do we want to be searched for sniper rifles when we go into a hotel or are we more willing to do something more holistic and proactive? u uzbekistanni nationals are fleeing that area because they are being oppressed. they come here and don't fit in. prison inmates are about to be released from prison, we have programs so they get it right.

what are we doing about potential radicals coming to our country trying to do the right thing. how many are here and how can we get behind them with a program that mitigates the chance that they'll go radical on us? that's the question we need to be asking. >> clint? >> frank, clint watts. we were testifying with the social media companies yesterday at the senate about russia and extremists. what are your thoughts coming from counterintelligence running for the entire fbi, what's your feeling with regards to how we deal with social media going forward, whether it's terrorists, the russians or anyone using these encrypted applications? >> boy, this is our new dynamic. couple of thoughts there. first, we're talking about soft targets for terrorism like a bike path in new york. and now yesterday we also learned that we have all -- our brains have become the soft target of russian government propaganda during our own election period. so, social media is used for

radicalization, influence and recruiting on the whole spectrum from terrorism to who you're going to vote for. what are americans willing to accept here? who do we want governing through what we see on our screens on social media? do we want the government saying what ad is bad or what not to see? one thing is for sure. it requires us all to be much smarter consumers of information and question everything we're seeing on that facebook page, on that twitter feed. >> former assistant director of the fbi's counterintelligence division, frank figluzzi, thank you very much. first lady melania trump was in new york city when the attack happened. she tweeted that her heartbreaks for the city. president trump also released a

statement on twitter, expressing his thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families. he offered his full support to the nypd with a joint investigation with the fbi. and he also thanked the first responders. he initially posted, quote, in nyc looks like another attack by a very sick and deranged person. law enforcement is following this closely. not in the usa. he also said, quote, we must not allow isis to return or enter our country. after defeating them in the middle east and elsewhere. enough. then three hours later, around 9:30 last night came this tweet. quote, i have just ordered homeland security to step up our already extreme vetting program. being politically correct is fine, but not for this. joe? >> first of all, and i think a lot of other people have pointed it out, there's nothing politically correct about trying to stop what happened yesterday.

i do find it fascinating, mike, that after a man shot hundreds of people in las vegas, we heard for weeks because this was going to be seen as a gun debate, that it was too soon to start talking about policy. now is not the day to talk about policy. now is not the week to talk about policy. now is not the month to talk about policy. once again, within minutes of an attack, anywhere on the globe, donald trump immediately starts talking policy. and he starts talking about his answers through policy. the sort of things that they tell us we can never talk about after hundreds and hundreds of people are shot in las vegas. and, of course, you see nothing happening, not even on the bump stock compromise that actually would have made a big difference

out in las vegas, according to a lot of poem. that was something that the supposedly the nra was going to let pass but now the cowards in congress have decided not to do that. and let legal guns take on the krkistics of illegal guns and yet donald trump and his people still saying, again, too early to talk about guns. it's always too early to talk about guns. it's never the right time to talk about guns. yet seconds after an act of terrorism, donald trump is on twitter, not waiting for any of the facts to come in. >> yeah. joe, i guess as we know, human nature being what it is, we all have different priorities. here in new york city, the priority is that we have multiple victims hospitalized. yesterday after a terrific terrorist attack. i think that's what people are concentrating on here. the new york city police department is concentrating on providing public city, with the new york city marathon coming up

this weekend. they're concentrating on that, not tweeting. congressman jerry nadler, that's your district. first of all, could you speak to that element of your district, tribeca, and how it has been rebui rebuilt, revitalized in the wake of the september 11th attacks? >> tribeca and lower manhattan, there was a question after the attacks 15 years ago as to whether they would come back, as to whether people would want to live there, work there. they've come back very well and have been built up rather -- we have a large population in lower manhattan that used to be just a business district and would be deserted after 5:00 at night. now you have a huge population of people living there. office buildings have been turned into residences and new skyscrapers are being built, residences and office buildings. tribeca is the most expensive place in new york city today,

probably the most expensive in the country. they're both very vibrant neighborhoods. >> we'll get back to you in a moment, congressman. first we want to go back down to lower manhattan. willie geist has new information. willie? >> reporter: from wnbc, our investigative reporter jonathan dietz tells us the note you talked about earlier that was left in the truck, the truck that is parked behind me, it was written in arab ic, translates o "isis lives forever." at least one knife, according to jonathan, found in the truck. the man has been questioned in the hospital, showing no remorse and, in fact, saying he is proud of what he did, taking eight lives on that bike path behind me. the man did read isis propaganda online and they may have taken test runs to take a look what it would be like to drive a truck down here. he was an uber driver the note

read "isis lives forever," once again. i talked to a law enforcement official not long ago who told me something that no politician or public official wants to stay out loud. in a country of 320, 325 million people, there may be no way to stop somebody who legally rents a truck and wants to do what this man did yesterday. do you think it's not -- >> there's no perfect safety in any society. you do what you can. i was extremely impressed by the response by the police department who got there and stopped him very quickly and gave aid to the victims very quickly. we can probably do somewhat more in terms of dealing with the rental -- with cartilage rental

agencies, so forth, our intelligence is very good. we have joint terrorism task force. that is very good. when any individual self radicalized by leading things on social media can suddenly decide without talking to anyone else to rent the truck and do this, there's no perfect safety. we can minimize it, eliminate it. but nowhere in the world will there be perfect safety. and we see the use of these truck weapons in nice and germany and jerusalem and now here. we can minimize it. we've done a very good job of that. and -- but there's no perfect safety. >> congressman, the president has leaned hard on this idea of extreme vetting as a solution. two questions on that front. one, have you seen any evidence? have you been briefed on any evidence that our vetting procedures have been tightened since the president took office?

and do you believe that there's anything more that needs to be done or that could be done to prevent people from coming to this country who have extremist leanings? >> first of all, just take this case. we will learn a lot more. much of what we say now is speculated. it's not at all clear that this person had extremist leanings when he came here. he came here seven years ago. we now see the report you just showed, that he was reading radical islamist stuff on social media. he may very well have been perfectly fine not to radicalize, nothing to see with extreme vetting or any other vetting. he lives here for a number of years and he changes from reading social media. the soldier who shot up his fellow soldiers at ft. hood was native here. did not immigrate. was self radicalized. no amount of extreme vetting is

going to stop that. the president, as usual, went off half cocked without knowing all the facts. uzbekistan was not one of the countries he talked about in extreme vetting. a refugee who wants to come here gets extreme vetting. it takes about two years, the process, during which intelligence agencies of all sorts are look at people. i don't know how you could improve that. the fact is that people coming here who could perceivably pose a danger are tourists. our economy is dependent on it. people want the tourists. 99.9% of them are wonderful people. you might come here as a tourist if you want to conduct a

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like everyone else. we look in these early hours to try to figure out was there something that we missed, something that friends, family or others saw? were they in the system? what can they tell from any electronics that have been seized? most important in the early hours, is there anyone else out there? i was briefed last night. as of last night, we weren't aware of there being other potential suspects out there. that obviously has to be the initial priority. >> do you suspect the fall of raqqa and the so-called caliphate? should we expect an increase of attacks across the world because of their failure on the battlefield? >> i think you have to expect now that the fiscalipphysical c

is collapsing. in some cases, yes, you're going to see more attacks around the world. all of that being said, the fall of raqqa and the defeat of this space in syria is important to ultimately defeating isis because you take away a lot of the ability to gather resources, to tax people, to collect oil income. you take away the sanctuary in which they can plot and plan. so, it was a necessary step but not sufficient to put an end to them. we are going to have to be ever more vigilant. we still don't know enough, joe, about this particular attacker to see, okay, was there something we missed in the vetting when they came to the country years ago? were they radicalized here? who were they associated with? was there any kind of command

and control by isis or simply someone acting out on their own? it's still far too early to say. >> congressman the president of the united states tweeted late last night that they're going to uptick the extreme vetting, back get to that, more enhanced extreme vetting in his tweet, i just ordered homeland security to step up our already extreme vetting program, he tweeted. as a member of the intelligence committee, having met with many members of the intelligence community in closed door sessions, is there any way that extreme vetting can get to someone who has been here seven years and vet the internet as he sits in an apartment in paterson, new jersey, reading social media? >> well, i don't think so. there is a chance that he came here radicalized eight years ago. >> he came with a green card.

>> it's far more likely that he was radicalized why he w ed whi here. how that happened i'm sure we'll learn a great more deal about. those who were involved in the boston marathon bombing came here as young people or as children or as early teenagers. it's hard to see how you can vet against that, or people who are second generation. how do you vet for the next generation? obviously, you can't. so, there are limits to that. i understand the president wants to say something, that he's taking some action. but it's really too early to say. does this mean now we're going to add uzbekistan to the list? is that how we're going to conduct our policy in terms of who can come to the country or not? we ought to dispassionately look at what happened here, what are the facts and the policy implications. it's so early it's hazardous to draw conclusions at this point. >> it is so early. but the president is up this

morning, drawing conclusions already. president trump just tweeted the terrorist came into our country through what is called the diversity visa lottery program, a chuck schumer beauty. i want merit based. julie pace, the president casting blame already for what happened and constantly saying that problems in america are happening because of immigrants, that mexicans are rapists. and in his campaign he said he wanted to ban every muslim from coming into this country and now he's, once again, suggesting a visa program was responsible for this killing. >> this has become the pattern for president trump, dating back to the campaign. no matter where an attack happens around the world, whether it's in the united states, europe, he immediately goes to questions about immigration, questions about

foreigners coming into the united states. this shift that we've seen here with focusing on merit based immigration now is tied into a debate happening on capitol hill, senator cotton and others have been pushing this idea that we switch our immigration from standards we currently use. congressman schiff, have you been briefed on this diversity lottery program and that being the potential way that this suspect came into the united states, and if you know anything about the vetting behind that program. >> you know, the briefing i had last night from the fbi, we were still, i think, gathering some of the earliest facts. at that time we knew where this person was coming from. we knew he was a green card holder but didn't know much more about that. so, no, i haven't gotten any kind of specific new

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welcome back to "morning joe." i'm willie geist here in lower manhattan, three blocks north of the site of the world trade center, now one world trade. trying to put the pieces together of what happened when a 29-year-old uzbek national who came to the united states in 2010 rented a home depot pickup truck across the river in passaic, new jersey, and drove it into manhattan, down a greenway use bid cyclists and pedestrians, killing eight people and injuring 11 more. more from our affiliate here in new york, wnbc. a note found in the truck was

written in arabic. it's now translated according to wnbc, the note left in the truck reads "isis lives forever." one knife was found in the truck. the suspect was questioned in the hospital. we're told he is out of surgery, stopped, subdued by a new york police officer who was shot in the stomach. in fact saying he was proud of what he did, killing eight people here in new york city. review of social media said he had been reading isis propaganda. many more questions about whether or not he was just inspired or whether he was directed. we'll be right back with more questions for new york governor andrew cuomo and new york city bill de blasio. when i received the diagnoses,

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all right. 41 past the hour. joining us now from the white hou house, nbc's peter alexander. we just read the first in the series of new tweets by the president this morning about

yesterday's terror attack in new york city. now he's adding to that. >> reporter: yeah. mika, let's walk you through these. these are the president's real time terror attacks. as he notes in his tweets he's watching fox news. he writes the terrorist came into our country through what is called the diversity visa lottery program, a chuck schumer beauty. i want merit based. we are fighting hard for merit based immigration, no more democrat lottery systems. we must get much tougher, and smarter. @foxandfriends. senator chuck schumer helping to import europes problems and colonel tony shaffer. we will stop this craziness. also to take a swipe at the senate's top democrat. what he said about this visa lottery program, senator schumer

played a role in drawing up -- significant role drawing up this program about 27 years ago in 1990. his proposals basically a broader immigration package passed by congress in a bipartisan vote and signed into law by a republican president. this is notable. we'll be watching the way the president reacts now. we've been told by sarah sanders the president was getting ongoing updates from his chief of staff, john kelly. early in the morning the president gets his best information by watching television. that appears to be what he's reacting to right now. yesterday in a series of tweets as he witnessed what was happening in new york city on tv, he described the attacker as a very sick and deranged person. he said law enforcement is following this closely, adding not in the usa. in another tweet he said enough. the bottom line, the president, before he has had his intelligence briefing for this day, is receiving information

from fox and friends, it appears and is speaking out because of it. meeka back to you. >> peter alexander, thank you. we'll get back to those tweets in a moment. let's bring in the governor of new york, andrew cuomo joins us this morning. joe, take the first question. >> sure. governor, what would you like to tell the great people of new york and new york state and the country about yesterday? >> good morning, joe. that there was a terror attack that cost eight lives, which is a terrible tragedy but which ultimately failed because the attack was about trying to create mayhem and terror and disrupt new york, our lifestyle and what we believe in. and that failed. we had a halloween parade last night that i went out and marched in.

not because i had a great costume but because it was about showing up and not being disrupted. that is the bottom line here, right? we're seeing an evolution in the tactics of the jihad. we saw it in 1993 was the first one with the world trade center bombing in new york. that was almost 35 years. and they've now evolved with the global platform through the internet through a simple device, which is rent a car, rent a truck and create terror. and we do everything we can, the best policing on the globe, an act of citizenry. at the end of the day, this is going to happen. it's happened in germany, france. it's a global phenomenon. you can't let them win. you can't let them disrupt who you are, what you believe. we have a special burden as new

yorkers. we have a statue in our harbor that holds the torch of freedom and democracy, which is everything they oppose. so we're a natural target. but they're not going to beat us. they didn't beat us in 1993 with the world trade center. they didn't beat us on 9/11. and they didn't beat us yesterday. >> are the president's tweets helpful, hurtful or not impactful, given the situation? >> you know, i think the first question, mika, are they factual is normally the first question on the president's tweets. but i don't think this is the time to get political. we had a policy, immigration policy in place in the '90s. it was a bipartisan policy, signed by a republican

president. there's no doubt that we have to be smarter and have more intelligence, but there's also no doubt that this is not the time to play politics. this is not the time to foment hate. this is not the time to divide. because they all exacerbate the situation, right? this is the time to forge alliances with our allies. i spoke to prime minister netanyahu this morning. this is about information sharing. this is about coalitions. this is about offering people hope and not spreading fear. and that's what i'm trying to do. and different officials will handle it differently. but i believe it's about hope. i believe it's about love. i believe it's about

understanding. and i believe it's about strength and not letting them win. >> willie geist? willie? >> governor cuomo, it's willie geist here in lower manhattan. we were talking earlier this morning about the evolution of the threat, the terrorist threat in america, but specifically here in new york. 16 years ago, a couple of blocks from where i am, people who were trained over the course of years, they were recruited, millions of dollars were spent to pull off an operation where people could fly commercial aircrafts into buildings. what we saw yesterday and what we saw in nice and germany, yesterday, a man rented a truck at home depot, and killed eight people. to new yorkers, people who live in our state, in our city, what do you say to them that says maybe we'll be able to stop this? maybe we'll be able to prevent this new kind of terrorism?

>> willie, it's interesting. i agree with you basically on the evolution of it. i think a lot of it has been about the internet. and an ability to get beyond the geography where they now don't have to train on a camp. they can put it up on the internet and it's spread. they have a very simple playbook, right? rent a car, rent a truck, drive into a crowd. let's not overstate the case either. we had one of the first terrorist attacks in new york, 1993 world trade center bombing, which was just a car driven in to the basement of the world trade center with explosives. and it killed six people. that was 35 years ago. let's not overstate the evolution, but they have gotten it down to a very simple template in, quote, unquote,

lone wolf scenario it is very hard to police. you don't have social media contacts. you don't have a lot of associations. you don't have the intelligence that would put this person on your radar screen. and that is what we are dealing dealing with globally, not just in new york, right, as you said. that's been the pattern over the past several occurrences. and in truth, one would expect that to continue. what do you do? the best intelligence that you can gather by cooperating with our allies and having all good guys work together. the best police force at that time, the best security measures, and then ultimately you don't let them win because you have to let them win. they want to instill terror. only you can give them that power. we lost eight people.

we're sad. we cry. but you didn't instill terror. you failed. we got up. we went about our business. we had a halloween parade. we're going to school today. we're going to work today. you failed. that is the ultimate vindication. >> new york governor andrew cuomo. thank you very much. and, joe, the read here looking ahead to the sunday marathon is i totally appreciate and take part in the defiance and resilience that so many new yorkers are showing, but it is terrifying, to be quite honest and eight people did die. >> it is. and new yorkers, just like they went out last night with their children for halloween and for the parades and for everything

else, they will go out and they will run that marathon and they will be united and they'll be far more united, let's be blunt about it, than the president of the united states the this morning. the leadership he's shown, unfortunately, is sad and goes against every tradition in not only modern american politics but in the history of this country. i remember one of the hopeful political signs after september 11th is when republicans and democrats had been fighting like hell against each or for a decade, whether it was over government shutdowns or impeachlity, they came together on the steps of the capital and i believe they sang "god bless america." what they sang, it doesn't matter. >> i remember that. >> we saw them working together and we were united against terrorism. george w. bush driving through the streets of new york city. he goes up the upper west side and everybody is out, they're

cheering for the president of the united states. rudy giuliani then the mayor turns to him and he says, do you see all these people out here cheering wildly for you, mr. president? and bush goes, yeah. he goes, none of them voted for you. and they didn't. but the great people of new york city came out because they wanted their president to know that they were united with him. >> yeah. >> and so here you have the president of the united states now donald trump, 16 years later using a terrorist attack when we should all come together to take cheap political shots against members of the opposing party. now is not the time. now is not the place. and this is not what americans need from their president, not just this president, but any president. we need somebody that can bring us together in these times. >> and, again, julie pace, i'll want to get some final thoughts to you and i'll launch to you this way. an interesting position again republicans are being put in.

after mass murderers and attacks with guns, republicans often say now is not the time topo lit size the this. we can't talk about this now because this is the wrong time topo lit size. yesterday their president jumps on any opportunity, usually not based on facts, to divide. >> and he's teeing them up on an issue where they're very comfortable. they are comfortable ty talking the about tightening immigration. it will be interesting to see whether they take that from the president today or whether they try to play mosh of the unifying role that the president has struggled to play as commander in chief. >> i have to show a little honesty and say this is not unifying, what is happening. we see a lot of republicans struggling with that reality. julie, that you c jew julie, thank you very much for being on this morning. still ahead, congressman mike caul says yesterday's attack has

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we have up to the minute reporting of the terror strike on new york city which has left eight people dead and 11 injured. officials say a man drove a rented truck along a popular bike path. wnbc is reporting that a note found inside the truck was handwritten in a foreign language and, according to one of law enforcement sources who spoke about the document, both said its contents were being investigated, but supported the belief that the attack was an act of terrorism. one source said the note read, isis lives forever, adding that a knife was also found inside the truck. the.suspect, 29-year-old saifullo say positive who entered the u.s. in 2010 was shot when being captured. we have just learned that he had surgery yesterday evening. there is no word on his

condition, but police did speak with him. the suspect reportedly shows no remorse and is proud of what he allegedly did. law enforcement said a review of social media said he did read isis propaganda online. welcome to "morning joe." it's the top of the hour. we have willie geist on the scene in lower manhattan along with joe and me. here on set, msnbc contributor mike barnacle, clint watts, graham wood and msnbc's a man moaldene. we'll start with you. what are your thoughts given what's transpired over the last 24 hours? stwr unfortunately, this happens now. like i said before, when we were in london after a spate of these attacks, you saw the thousands and thousands of tourists and workers that would be up right next to the roads, busy thorough

fares. and we just commented with each other, there's no way london can guard every stretch of the roadways unless they want to go back the to horse and buggies. the same thing holds true for new york. you do the best you can do and you hope that people look and report things that seem suspicious. and i wanted to ask you because this obviously, for a lot of new yorkers, and you, because you were down there for several weeks day and night after 9/11, this happened in an area that you are all too familiar with as its related to terrorism. the area around ground zero. >> well, i'm very familiar with the area. i spent weeks there day and night after 9/11, months, really. but i also wrote on that bike path with my family. and i know that it is such a draw in new york city. people love to get outside and ride along the river and push strollers and be with their

families and it is a beautiful, beautiful addition to this city. which has brought so many people together and brought them outside. so they can see the city from a different angle and be together. and it's absolutely horrific what has happened. willie geist is in lower manhattan and the president tweeting this morning, willie, complicating things, if that's possible. >> he has. before i read those tweets, there's a pretty extraordinary scene playing out behind me. this is the home depot truck over my shoulder that the 29-year-old uzbek national rented. the car is still there, the truck is still there. and wind it, behind police tape there are children walking to school mind the truck. i pointed out earlier, there's an elementary school nearby, a middle schoolhoused in the same building, is-189 and steiveson high school in new york. we talked about not letting

terrorists win. the garbage pickup just happened next to me. those same kids who were pushed back on their school yesterday are behind me walking to school behind the truck that forced that lockdown. so it's a scary moment here in new york city, but as for the tweets from the president of the united states, first tweeting the terrorist came into our country through what is called the diversity visa lottery program, a chuck schumer beauty. i want merit based. he continued, we have fighting hard for merit based immigration, no more democrat lottery systems. we must get much tougher and smarter and then he tagged fox and friends. his third tweet of the morning, senator chuck schumer helping to import europe's problems said colonel tony shaffer. we will stop this craziness. joe, as you pointed out in the hours, what are we, 12, 16 hours after the attack, the president

now blaming this, pinning this on the senator from the state of new york. chuck schumer. >> i know it is unbelievable, willie, that he would do that. he's not going to gain anything by it in the short-term. again, mika, as i was saying, this is a time that presidents in the past have come together, certainly after 9/11 they praised the nypd, they praised the fire department, they praised other first responders. we're doing that again today. i do want to bring up something that i know both of you guys would agree with me on. also just being in new york, and mika, you were talking about this yesterday, we're obviously very proud of our coworkers at wnbc. but, man, all the local news stations, the news reporters do such an extraordinary job and, mika, of course, you're very familiar with channel. they've had people there for 20,

25, 30 years. of course, wnbc, cbs, fox, we could talk about all of them. but incredible reporting on the ground from all of these reporters at these stations in new york. >> yeah. and actually, a lot of cities have reporters who go, who use it as step ups. people here in new york city, they love this city so much. most of them covered 9/11, they covered every tragedy that has struck here. they know the city, they live in it. it's where we turned to get the information on this because they were all over it and feeling it from the inside out. having said that, we're looking at the big picture here. we have our president tweeting, quite frankly, divisively. the governor is talking about resilience and not standing up to terror. but the bottom line is, eight people are dead and a lot of people are absolutely terrified.

and i don't want to gloss over that part of the story because the right thing to say is that we have to stand up to terror and the terrorists have failed. they didn't. they killed eight people. and there are many injured. and there was a mile-long massacre on the west side of new york city where people are supposed to be biking and having fun and enjoying new york city. >> yeah. and, again, willie, this is yet another incident that i know you had to with your children, it's something i had to do with my children last night, had to sit down and explain it because they're very familiar with the west side highway, very familiar with that bike path and that yeah. it is something, yep, it is something it seems once again that we have to explain to our kids about the new reality that we've been living in for too lock now. >> yeah. these are the places where we live and play. this is our city. this is where we live. this isn't some tourist

defendant the nation. we talked earlier about trick or treating last night. i took my kids out about 5:00. they've shut down a block on the upper west side, 69th street. all the homes there decorate their houses and they do shut it off. typically, the nypd. but there was a stepped up presence. so the kids are aware, but not terribly concerned about it. but the parents, there's a whisper in the crowd and i have to say as i was walking my kids over, i got them across the street to 69th and behind me, a huge boom, two cars colliding. and given what had happened three hours prior, we all turned. i scrambled, i ran to the scene. it was a car accident. it was a cab that had t-boned another car, hit a woman who was standing on the corner. i ran over and gave her aid and got her into the ambulance. but talk about a city being on edge. a couple of hours later, you're trying to go on with your life and you hear a car. the streets were tacked with kids. and the kids who were at school yesterday who had to be sheltered in place and pushed

back into their school down here in lower manhattan, they were out trick or treating a couple hours later after they were released from their school and the streets were full of young children trick or treating yesterday. i want to bring in former fbi agent ali sufan. ali led the investigation into the bombing of the uss coal in 2000 and was a key figure in investigating the attacks. i want to get you, ali, to talk about the tweets from president trump. what he said and specifically significance of a president of the united states coming out this quickly and speaking this way. >> this is so -- look, you know, when terrorist attacks happen, often organizations capitalize on the aftermath of that attack more than the attack itself. how are we going to react to it? is it going to unite us as a country or dwis divide us as a country? well, they want to divide us. that's why they're doing these

things. we have to be careful and our political leadership have to be extremely careful not to twael actually do something that the terrorists want uts to do. you see, willie, today we're dealing with a message. is that a bomb? is that a gun? is that a knife? is that even a truck? it's a message. the message is bullet proof. and as long as they are able to appeal to people around the world and inspires attack like this, they're going to believe that they are winning. and in a way, they winning when they inspire an individual like this guy to come and kill eight people in new york city. >> and what does a terrorist think, ali, when he wakes up this morning and reads a tweet from the president of the united states who reacts to this by blaming another politician of a party? >> trim is working.

unfortunately, with the president's tweet today, he kind of made it clear that of isis and mosul, in raqqah, in syria, will be overlasting with the inspirational message that isis is putting out. their inspirational message,er their brand is still very potent and this is an example. and president trump agreed with them in that by dividing our country further today. >> ali, thank you so much for your insights this morning. we don't know yet whether this was directed or merely inspired by the man's relationship to isis. but it's clear he achieved at least part of his objective by dividing the country at the top. >> all right joe, also with us we have graham wood whose article that you put out last night is about what the attack reveals about supporters of isis.

joe has the first question for you. joe. >> graham, obviously, we had you on right after you came out with a ground breaking article on isis. gosh, what was it, a couple of years ago. and what you pointed out early on was that it was the caliphate that was the dream. it was the mag national. obviously that dream is in a million the pieces and is shattered. is this the next phase of isis? now that the dream is dead, do they come attack us in their backyard? >> it's almost been the next phase of isis for over a year now. isis said in may 2016, don't try to come to syria and iraq any more. attack where you are. what i think should be heartening to us is we haven't seen that many attacks. there have been a lot of them and they have, on average, not killed that many people.

so it could be worse. what we're seeing right now with the attack in new york, isis related, directed, inspired, is the most unsophisticated attack. it's a guy renting a truck and plowing it into a bunch of tourists. this is horrifying. it's at least good news that the so festcation of the attacks doesn't seem to have risen. the indianapolis operation of the caliphate is a paradise that you can fight for. that pear dice is gone. i hope the inspiration is dying down a bit, too. what about the logistical abilities of isis? when we see these sort of attacks, say, move across the globe fromland to the united states, obviously, them inspiring this sort of attack is one thing, but them directing it and managing it and helping with the logistics is quite another. where is isis in terms of logistical capabilities at the

end of 2017. >> they're horribly crippled from the their perspective. they have no ability to -- or very limited ability, anyway, to actually provide weapons, the to provide direction, and most importantly, to provide manpower that is competent to mount these attacks. the worst possible scenario would be people coming out of syria and iraq, battle hardened and capable of moving taktsicily and killing large numbers of people. >> in terms of this investigation, at what point do you decide that this is an individual would is insired by isis as opposed to some crazy person who latched on the to isis? we don't know the nature of the note that he left behind, but how do we draw that distinction between a crazy muslim person and a person who is belonging to an ideology of extremism and wants to carry out a politically motivated attack?

>> i think what's important is isis doesn't draw that distinction. they say if you're fighting on our behalf, you're one of us, even if you are a crazy person. so, of course, the investigation will tell us whether he's had direct contact with isis supporters in syria or el where. inspiration matters, but it sdipt doesn't matter to isis whether he's connected or whether he's a quote/unquote lone wolf. >> congressman michael mccaul, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. >> thank you. >> what is the latest from your perspective as you bring in information on what transpired here? >> he came in through a diverse thety program and a lottery program into florida. spent about the two or three months in the new jersey area this is nothing new.

magazine online from isis has called for a vehicle tax. this will be the ninth vehicle attack since they proclaimed this. shaq adnani is the one who said kill in your backyard by any means necessary. don't come to syria any more. so this was the new sort of chapter of terrorism that we're seeing in the united states. i think fortunate we haven't seen as many in the united states as we've seen in europe, but tragically what happened yesterday was a horrible event that i think we need to take time to mourn and respect what happened and then we'll dee with the policy issues i think later. >> mike barnacle. >> congressman, uzbekistan, a pretty lethal component within the terror syndicates around the

world. were you surprised at the presence of someone from uzbekistan on the west side of new york instigating this terror attack? >> we usually look at iraq and syria, afghanistan. uzbekistan has sent thousands of fighters to the region in afghanistan and syria to fight alongside so alongside isis. so i wasn't that much surprised. this is part of the region has muslim extremist there and they're carrying out the call. in fact, i saw isis post just today praising these acts and saying, you know, don't let the death of sheikh adnani stop us, to kill the coup in our backyard. so this will be an ongoing threat that we faced. it is sort of diminished to vehicles and knives.

explosive devices still worry me and laptops on airplanes can be turned into bombs. they have been crushed by the caliphate. that's important to note. that's been demoralizing for them. however, their bandwidth over the internet can reach globally and they can radicalize over the entire globe and all parts of the world to conduct terrorist attacks. >> congressman, clint watts. as you just noted, we've had great success in mosul and raqqah. the caliphate is essentially dismated in its physical form. what do you expect as we tends to see foreign fighters who survive these battlefields move on and start elsewhere? what would you like to see this administration do moving

forward? >> well, there is a dual threat. we don't want them on airplanes coming into the united states. we've had a couple of hundred leave the united states. and have some come back. we are monitoring those foreign fighters. i think the greater threat is where you have somebody who in a matter of months goes from a flash to a bang in new york city. that stops a lot of soft targets both in new york and the capital right behind me. quite frankly, i think the technology companies have a moral responsibility to take down this jihadist material like sermons of al aki and others off

the internet because that is their power. bin laden didn't use the internet. isis, they do. they're a new generation of terrorists. and i think we need to start looking at the internet and taking their power away from them. >> congressman michael mccaul, thank you very much for being on this show this morning. >> thank you, mika. coming up on "morning joe," the major of new york city bill de blasio joins us live with the latest information on the terror attack in new york city yesterday.

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welcome back to "morning joe." i'm willie geist in hahn mattan, about one block away from the home depot truck driven by a 29-year-old terrorist who presented the truck across the river in new jersey, drove boo manhattan and made hi ways down a walking path, a biking path

and killed eight people. he survived, he's out of surgery now in the hospital where he has expressed no remorse for what he did and aer cording the our reporting said he was proud of what happened yesterday. it's back to school for some of these kids who are a block away from this. ps-284, a group of young kids who can't be more than first, second, third graders looked through here, the fence, saw all of us in the media and asked, what happened? what happened? that's the scene here in lower manhattan. we'll be right back with new york city mayor bill de blasio next. ♪ it's a lot easier to make decisions when you know what comes next. if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we make sure you're in the loop at every step

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the block to get police and point them down in the right direction. he went trick or treating last night. he was okay, like a normal day. he went trick or treating, he was fine, did his homework. he's back to school today, like a normal day. >> joining us now, a man who knows new york well, author and trumist for the "new york daily news," author mike we're going to talk about the president's tweets. i know you have some thoughts on that. but as a new yorker, as a man who kofrdz new york city for the daily news, your thoughts on what happened yesterday? >> we live in a worlds where your first call, i have two sons who live in manhattan, so clear that out of your mind. i was thinking yesterday that this was one of the days in a place that i call the dream new

york. incredibly blue sky. everybody who spends any time in the city knows that that path is one of the main plazas of our city. and now it happens again. there's no kwif loentsys between what happened on september 11th to yesterday except it is an attack on our city. and it happened again. one of the things i was thinking about yesterday is how little this has happened in in, in the last 16 years, how well we have defended ourselves against threats. a lot of it has to do with ray kelly and bill bratton and then it happened again and that is why new yorkers, this is personal now. it's always person when this happens. >> the third level to this is what mike alluded to.

on canal street, you know them. the streets were filled at that hour with people who knew of the attack and were getting on with their lives. you get off at columbus circle, families gathering their cha children for halloween. we see toughness, security, inspiration that we go forward the in this city and in every american city i think would react. it's just this city is on the world stage. >> people hamill once say we didn't see the greatness of that on september 11, we saw it on september 12th and 13th when the city was getting back up. yesterday it happens immediately. you could see it happening at 3:00 and 4:00 and 5:00. the day after the boston marathon bombing, mike and i were talking around the streets

of boston that day. the only attitude we can describe a that die is defiantly optimistic. when people took to the streets last night, they were being defiat. >> i feel like the wet blanket t table. i covered 9/11 and i'm not sure i would call myself optimistic at this point. this has hit home again. >> well, it has hit home again. especially, again, you were down there for two weeks. i remember you telling me after leaving, what you were reporting on for 24 hours a day, seven days a week for several weeks. emergency room you talking about going up to uptown where there was midtown or the upper eastside or the upper west side and you would see people out in restaurants eating, going with about their business and being so jarring that it was like they lived in another world and had

almost seemed disconnected from what hasp happened 70 blocks down. by the way, i heard that from a lot of people reporting on the ground in 9/11. that wasn't just your reaction. but that is what makes new york. knock us down, as pete hamill said. we're going to get up and we're going to keep going. >> possibly. mike. >> i understand what you said and i understand what you feel. but i think -- because there's a huge difference between the aftermath of september 11th and how you feel today. in the aftermath of september 11th, we had a president of the united states who literally tried quite successfully in the immediate aftermath of september 11th to unite this country. today we have a president of the united states who never misses an opportunity to divide, to

twist, topo lit size. and that depresses people. >> and mike, this happened immediately. i mean, he immediately started talking about things that really weren't even related to this attack, talked about political correctness. this attack has nothing to do with political correctness. this guy came in in 2010. it has to do with that thing that is out in the harbor that people that have been coming to the united states of america have been seeing for some time, the statue of liberty. donald trump may be a guy from a privileged background, but you apparently doesn't understand that we are a nation of immigrants, we always will be and then this morning, mike, turning the attacks against chuck schumer when george w. bush in the days after 9/11, regardless what you think about the rest of his presidency was

going to mosques, embracing american muslims, was going to new york city and not only bringing people together, but people who couldn't stand george w. bush, standing side by side with him, regardless of what they thought about their politics. donald trump once again showing the worst of both. >> joe, i have a question for this president. what visa program would have protected people in vegas when a guy turned a hotel into a sniper nest? other than 9/11, the two biggest terror attacks in this city were oklahoma city and las vegas. what wall are we going to build to protect us from other americans? now this is chuck schumer's fault? give me a break. >> so, graham, chuck schumer has released a statement. i'm going to red that really quickly respond to go president trump and he says, i've always believed and continue to believe

immigration is good for america. president trump said america, which he seems to do at times of national tragedy, should be focusing on the real solution. he proposed cutting in his most recent budget. i'm calling on the president to immediately rescind his proposed cuts to this vital anti-terrorism funding. there is a point here about some of the attacks of late in this country. it has nothing to do with the visa principal. >> no, they don't. as has been mentioned before, this person came to the united states in 2010. 2010 there was no isis. it's the pattern with isis related attacks that someone gets an idea and very quickly acts on it. and the idea that the u.s. government is capable of predicting seven years out that someone is going to get a lethal mind virus infected in october of 2017 is fantastic. >> you're going to be able to

detect somebody who is going to come into the country legally, be married, live a protective life, be an uber driver, and the notion that you want to focus on a visa program or an extreme vetting program and not focus on the root causes of what is inspiring people, the radicalization, and i think that's a sad day for this country. >> coming up, new york city mayor bill de blasio was on the scene within moments of yesterday's terror attack in lower manhattan. he joins us next on "morning joe."

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♪ ♪ ♪ welcome back to "morning joe." mayor bill de blasio. mr. mayor, thank you so much for being with us. you obviously were on the scene immediately after yesterday. anything we should know about that terrorist attack yesterday?

and moving forward, should we be worried about the new york marathon? >> joe, look, first of all, i want to say nypd did an outstanding job in all the first responders yesterday. our brave, young officer stopped that situation from ending up being potentially a lot worse and what's amazing, joe, and you and your colleagues were talking about it, new yorkers went back to business, back to work immediately. we had a halloween parade last night. we do it every year. a million people were there. and i talked to a lot of them, joe. i talked to a lot of them. i have to tell you, their attitude was one of resilience, strength, persistence. they're not going to let terrorists change our way of life. it made me very proud of new york city. >> is there a what you're expecting for the new york city marathon, as well? >> i am. >> do you think it will go on uninterrupted? >> absolutely. we think it's important as a message to the whole world that we're not going to change who we

are. the marathon is a huge endeavor. very well organized. all of our uniform services know how to handle it. nypd will be out in in even greater force, joe. you'll see a lot of visible presence. a lot of officers with long guns. you'll see some things, other things you won't see that are protecting us. but we're confident it will go off as planned and it will be safe. >> so let's go to willie geist. the marathon is an iconic event in new york city and runners are -- runners are resilient people, for sure, as we look forward to that. willie geist. >> mayor de blasio, it's willie. good to see you this morning. i was out trick or treating with my kids last night and the streets were absolutely full of children who went back out with their parents and doing what they want have done, anyway. i'm a block away, mr. mayor, from the home depot truck that was used in this attack and i'm watching kids stream into school right outside the police tape. they're walking right outside

the crime scene getting back to their lives. but i want to ask you more about this is suspect. 29-year-old uzbek national, came in with, rented a truck, went down and took eight lives. can you tell us more from what you've gathered from the new york city police department about who this guy is? >> is look, willie, nypd, all our partners are working on this investigation. but to the point you made, we made a decision last night to keep those schools open, to keep people on their everyday lives because it's so important to not give in, to not blink when we're affronted. and i've got to tell you, i'm sorry those kids had to go by that site, but i also think it says to them, we can overcome this. we're stronger than this, we're better than this. and highways the toout attitude i've seen in new york. so we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened,

willie, and we're going to also assess other changes we need to make in our approach going forward. but one thing you will know for sure, you're going to see a lot of nypd presence throughout the week, into the marathon, and that deterrence is a big part of what we do. we've created the biggest a anti-terrorism force of any force in the country because that visible deterrence matters. >> mike. >> you move around b this city, any part of the city, any of the burrows of the city, you realize that each and every day is actually sort of a massive mini security. >> that's right. >> detail. with the new york police department and other ancillary organizations. affiliated with the nypd. the cost of it is enormous. what does a city like new york, given its world responsibilities, responsibilities to the world, an attraction to the world, do about covering those costs? >> look, first of all, mike, we know we're the number one global -- or number one i should say terror target in the united states of america. and we understand we have to be

in a ready position. we have to be strong. we added 2,000 more police officers in the last two years largely so we could have that additional visible presence. we do bear a lot of that cost. now, we do expect some of that to be taken over by washington and that's historically been the case. you know in recent months some of that funding has been threatened for other political and policy reasons by the trump administration. my message has been consistently how on earth are you going to take away anti-terrorism funding from the number one terror target in america? but we'll bear the costs to the extent we can. you would think the federal government would with see it as a national priority to protect our biggest city. >> mr. mayor, one of the i was thinking about yesterday is it's 16 years since 9/11. this doesn't happen here. and it's another way to honor the anti-terrorism people in the city and the cops in this city. 16 years is a long time. and there's sometimes that it happens all the time.

it never happens. >> mike, there have been 20 plots before this incident directed at new york city or originating in new york city that were foiled. by the nypd, by the fbi. intelligence gathering makes a huge difference. there's a lot of things that are stopped you never hear about on purpose. and we also with know that times that everyday new yorkers came forward, told police something that stopped an attack or as i remember several years ago in times square ran over to an officer and stopped something right in the middle of an attack. this piece, you know, it's not an idle phrase. everyone can help our police to protect us. any tip might be the lifesaver. >> and as the president is tweeting, i think it's important the to point out that everyday new yorkers consistent of people like the victims, people from belgium, people from argentina, people from all over the world

that come here abuse they love new york. >> and who keep us safe. and mika, here is such an important point. the nypd believes deeply in building close relationships with every year. by the way, there are 900 muslim officers in the nypd who protect everyone, but because we're deep in communities, we get the flow of information. this is really the way forward for our country. we need to be able to encourage everyone to come forward. we're all wearing the same uniform if you think about it. and if every community feels connected and invested and willing to come forward to the police, including our immigrant communities, that's what actually keeps us safe. we're looking forward to sunday. mayor billdy blaso, thank you very much. up next, we'll talk to a local pastor who says he and his children all witnessed yesterday's terror attack. he says his son was leaving school when shots rang out and they thought it was a prank. the pastor shares his story next on "morning joe." we're the number one dairy and apple producers in the eastern united states supported by innovative packaging

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joining us now is pastor michael ruzina of trinity grace church which serves the manhattan neighborhood where yesterday's attack happened and you were actually right in front of your kids' school. >> that's right. >> right there. >> that's right. my daughter goes to school across the street from where the incident took place. so i picked her up from school. we walked into whole foods to find trick-or-treat bags and couldn't find them. so we walked out on the west side highway side of the whole foods store. as we walked out, we approached the corner and immediately heard

gunshots. they were coming from sort of about a couple hundred feet away from us and i just immediately went into automatic mode. so i pushed my daughter down and tried to figure out where the direction was coming from. ran her back inside of whole foods, kind of swarming back and forth. you know, it was the beginning of this month where the vegas shooting took place, and i think like many people i imagined what would i do in that scenario. and as i heard shots coming, i couldn't tell, there was like seven or eight shots, very regular, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, and i didn't know what to think. i heard screams, i heard people running. so i took my daughter into whole foods. >> how old is she? >> she's 9 years old. she turns 10 this month. so we ran into whole foods. i heard someone behind me yell hold the door, hold the door and it was a mother with a stroller. i ran to hold the door. she came inside and i immediately called my wife because my son goes to that

school. i realized the direction where the shots were coming from was the school. >> so you were one of parents with kids inside that school. >> absolutely. >> terrified. >> absolutely. >> i called my wife and said where is jack, is he home? she said no. i told her i just heard gunshots. she wondered what should we do? should i meet you? so i ended up running outside, assessing the situation. i eventually went to the school. >> where do you live? >> i live across the street from the school. i live a block away. >> what did you say to the kids last night? >> last night we sat them down and had them tell their stories. we had to decide are we going to go trick-or-treating or stay inside. they all wanted to go. so we went outside through the chaos of the media and everything. but it was pretty remarkable. my son, he was in my view a hero the way he experienced it. >> really. >> he walked outside of the

school. he was dismissed at the time of the crash so he walks out, hears a crash, sees a bunch of high school students running. and he thinks it's a prank. so he kind of laughs and looks around and then realizes it's pretty serious. he's never heard gunshots. neither of my children have ever heard gunshots. >> had you? >> i have heard gunshots but not in this way. and not in an unsuspecting way. so he ran down the street away from the shots, around the corner, found a friend who was crying on the phone with his mom. pulled him in and ran him to our building. our doorman was just funneling kids into the building. it was truly chaos. our heart was just racing. i didn't know where my son was. >> as a pastor in the neighborhood, what are your final thoughts this morning and what are you sharing with your community? >> i think the main message that we're sharing with our community and i think that's important for our neighborhood is new york is strong and we have to face our trauma. one of my great mentors says if

we don't transform our pain, we'll surely transmit our pain. i think in this moment in society, we need to use these moments to reflect on how are we facing these traumas. i'm so hopeful because when i look at how people responded, the principals, the staff at the school, the first responders, the police officers, they were remarkable. and i think it's easy to focus on evil and terror in a time like this, but we need to keep our eyes open for what's hopeful. >> pastor, thank you very much for sharing with us this morning. >> thank you. and next we're going to go back down to willie geist at the scene in lower manhattan. stay with us. filtering it out to help you continue enjoying your screens. or... you could just put your phones down and talk to each other. [laughing] nature's bounty lutein blue. because you're better off healthy.

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let's go downtown to the scene with willie geist. willie, final thoughts this morning. >> well, just sitting here all morning for the last three hours or so, we watched the city come back to life as it does every morning. i mentioned before a garbage truck pulled right into the middle of all these reporters and all this chaos and picked up the garbage. there was a mcdonald's truck making its delivery. most extraordinary to me is a block behind me is that home depot truck that caused all this havoc and the 29-year-old man who drove it. right outside the police tape this morning, the kids who were in the schools yesterday, who had to be pushed back into the schools and sheltered in place as police figured out what was going on are now back out walking past the crime scene going back into those schools. ps 89, 289, ps 234 right here.

life goes on, but this is a part of a life that a lot of people don't want to accept. you have to talk to law enforcement people who said to me this morning privately, it's a big country. there are people who can do low-tech things and it's very difficult for us to stop all those things. that's a very difficult thing to accept in an open society, but sadly it may be the reality. >> mike barnicle, give us your final thoughts this morning. >> joe, yesterday eight dead, multiple people injured in a terrorist attack on the west side of manhattan. today the city woke up, the city walked, the city breathed, the city lived, and so did the country. >> you know, it's -- >> mike lupica. >> joe, when you talk about visa programs and everything else. yesterday it was a bike lane in lower manhattan that became a soft target. you know why? because the whole world is a soft target right now. >> yeah. mika. >> i love new york. i also love this country, and

i'm praying for leadership at this time. joe, what about you? >> well, we need that leadership. i loved how the pastor talked about he was looking at the reaction and the type of reactions that we needed to have as a country after 9/11 should be after this attack too, from the white house all the way down. we're stronger together. we're stronger after terror attacks that are meant to traumatize us, meant to confuse us, meant to divide us. we can't allow that to happen. we have to remember the motto of our country. more importantly, the president of the united states needs to remember the motto of this country, e pluribus umun, out of many, one. that's who we are as a country, who we were after 9/11 and who we are this morning, november 1, 2017. as new york city goes back to school and work this morning and looks to the future and not to the past. let's pass it on right now to

craig melvin who's going to be carrying through with the story over the next hour. msnbc will be following this story throughout the remainder of the day. craig. >> all right, joe, thank you so much. hey there, craig melvin here in for stephanie ruhle this morning. terror in new york. eight people killed, nearly a dozen hurt in the deadliest attack in new york city since 9/11. >> this was an act of terror, and a particularly cowardly act of terror. >> a 29-year-old uzbek immigrant is in custody. police say he drove his rented truck onto a bike path mowing down unsuspecting victims in an attack committed in the name of isis. >> i see two gentlemen laying right there in the bike lane with tire marks across their body. you could tell that they're not here no more. >> now new yorkers doing what they do, defiantly maintaining a sense of normalcy, but the wounds are still raw. >> looking for my son t