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plus, senator mark warner talks russia, virginia, and points in between. and later on, congressman joe crowley with a look at how the party can rebuild on tuesday's win to start redrawing the map in favor of democrats. and i talk with republican congressman steve scalise who's on the mend and praising the men and women who saved his life on the baseball diamond. at this hour the president is in the philippines. he has praised that country's president rodrigo duterte despite his bloody crackdown on drug use in the country. it's a trip in which president trump saw 11 nations go around him with an agreement on pacific trade. it was one where he once again undermined the conclusions of the american intelligence community that, indeed, russia did interfere in the 2016 election. once more, president trump met with russian president vladimir putin and once more he did not

forcefully make the case for protecting the integrity of american elections. president trump talks to reporters saturday and i think it's worth walking you through a good chunk of the pool report that came out of this. the president said of vladimir putin, quote, he said he didn't meddle. he is a i had he didn't meddle. i asked him again. he said he didn't meddle. i asked him again. he said he did not medal in our election. a reporter followed up and asked, do you believe putin? the president said back, quote, well, look, i can't stand there and argue with him. i'd rather have him get out of syria to be honest with you. he just every time he sees me, he says, i didn't do that. i believe, i really believe that when he tells me that he means it, but he says, i didn't do that. i think he's very insulted by it, if you want to know the truth. and here's what the president said about the intelligence assessment that russia did

meddle in the election. and then you hear it's 17 agencies. well, it's 3. one is brennan and one is whatever. i mean, give me a break. they're political hacks. so you look at it, i mean, you have brennan, you have clapper, and you have comey. comey has proven to be a liar and he's proven to be a leaker. president putin says he had nothing to do with that. then there was a series of tweets defending the merits of a good relationship with russia and then the president said this. >> i'm surprised that there's any conflict on this. what i said there is that i believe he believes that and that's very important for somebody to believe that. i believe that he feels that he and russia did not meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not, i'm with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with their leadership. i believe that president putin really feels and he feels strongly that he did not meddle in our elections. what he believes is what he believes. what i believe is that we have to get to work, and i think

everybody understood this that heard the answer. we have to get to work to solve syria, to solve north korea, to solve ukraine, to solve terrorism. >> for more on this, all of this, i want to bring in our panel. nbc news white house correspondent jeff bennett who started this week. welcome to the nbc news family. >> thank you. >> nbc news analyst rick tyler and national political reporter for the "new york times" younssh alcinidor. ken delaney. ken, i need to start with you on this. i had to read us through everything that happened on air force one partly because we weren't -- more entirely, we weren't allowed to use the audio from the first set of comments. i was sitting there flipping through that and then listened to what the president had to say later. it didn't seem like he was actually walking back what he said initially when he did appear on camera about russian meddling. >> let's call it a half-hearted

attempt to sort of respond to the criticism, and the criticism, kasie, has been about as intense as i have seen it. the reason is, i cannot convey enough how outside the norm what he did in terms of -- was in terms of criticizing these former intelligence officials, who are career officials. i mean, james clapper and john brennan may be democrats, i don't know, but they served presidents for decades. they have killed more terrorists than anybody in the trump white house, and what they see is a president trump being played like a violin by a former kgb officer, vladimir putin. you know, what trump said about the three intelligence agencies -- >> can we fact check that? >> absolutely. it's been fact checked before. i fact checked it. it's the big four intelligence agency, fbi, nsa, cia and office of director of national intelligence that signed that intelligence assessment on russian interference.

it wasn't 17. some news organizations have misreported that and rightly have corrected themselves, but the reason the other agencies did not sign on is they don't deal with this issue explicitly. like, for example, the coast guard intelligence agency is not concerned with russian hacking but the important thing to remember is none of them dissented. you had the state department dissenting. there was no dissent. this was delivered with high confidence which is about as strong as the u.s. intelligence community can say anything, kasie. >> rick tyler, ken mentioned norms and blowing through them. i feel like the list is piling up. >> it was such a cringe worthy moment. the president should not be asking vladimir putin whether he hacked into the elections. he should be telling him he hacked into the elections and putting him on notice that we don't tolerate that. that would have shown strength to putin. of course, if he asks him if he interfered putin will say, of course i didn't interfere. >> i'm not sure what else you

would say if you were vladimir putin. >> then he had to walk it all back. by the way, it's not the political appointees who he wants to be upset with who write the intelligence assessments. those were the people who were the good guys. they're the ones that wrote the report. >> i think the thing that's happening here is the president hasn't shown an ability to or willingness to at this point separates as it relates to this overall russia question his own 2016 presidential win, which russia committed, a nefarious act, meddling notice election system here. the president has to move forward to separate those two issues. russia, the kremlin feels emboldened by what happened. we have 2018 coming up. we know from the same intelligence agencies that they plan on interfering in 2020. >> this is a ploesz ran america first and it seems as though america's almost the last thing when he thinks about what russia could be doing.

he would rather him be out of syria. i thought to myself, this is an american election. we're talking about 2018. we're talking about 2020. we're talking about the fabric of our democracy, the elections. people go out and vote and a foreign country, adversarial country is trying to take that over. i'm more interested in what his base is in a foreign country. in some ways it's problematic because it was entertaining to watch them. what are you talking about to say oh, i clearly hacked. the answer is never going to change. it's problematic. it shows a lot of seriousness on this part. >> so former cia director john brennan and former director of intelligence, james clapper, did respond this morning on cnn. take a listen. >> he was referring to us as political hacks because he was trying to delegitimize the

assessment. i feel very honored to be associated with jim clapper and jim comey. i consider that a badge of honor. >> i do believe in my heart that the men and women of the intelligence community will continue to convey truth to power even if the power ignores the truth. >> ken, you cover this day to day. what are you hearing from your sources about the morale inside those buildings, how they view this president and this approach to putin. >> look, casey. there are a lot of it in these books, but they are mortgage at this 2350id about his reaction to this russia issue. they know that vladimir putin is one of america's foremost adversaries and they show no everything that he's standing up. they see no plans to prevent as jeff was i78d kating, to prevent

the next russian hack. they've been coming to capitol hill in repeated hearings, the russians are coming again in 2018. where is the whole plan to prevent it? it doesn't seem to take it very seriously. >> rick tyler, how much of this is about 2016? you do have a lot of republicans were very worried about the impact this is going to have in the mid-term elections. we're not ready for that. >> i think it's only going to get worse. technology is increasing but it's -- with all the facebook and all the social media and it's very serious. if you say anything to trump about russia, he immediately defers to -- >> hillary clinton. >> it is a shame he's not taking it seriously.

>> in the mid-term elections i want to change gears. we have another important story to get to. national republicans are caught in a really fundamental dilemma tonight over alabama senate nominee roy moore. do they stick with him and the baggage of child molestation allegations or do they cut bait and risk losing a safe republican senate seat? on thursday the washington post reported allegations that roy moore molested a 14-year-old girl when he was a 32-year-old prosecutor. moore said he had no contact with the girl and that the allegations are completely false. moore spoke publicly dismissing them as nothing but a public attack. >> to think that grown women would wait 40 years to come before -- right before an election to bring charges is absolutely unbelievable.

why now? the democrats and the republican establishment know the importance of this election. >> the special election for the seat being vacated by attorney general jeff sessions is expected to be held december 12th. i don't know where to start exactly with what roy moore ris said. this one woman is now telling the story. it seems like republicans are wrestling with whether or not they can decide they believe her or they want to believe roy moore. >> there are some republicans that are wrestling with that. mitch mcconnell and other they

call them establishment want him to step aside. they want nothing to do with him if he's going to be accused of being a pedophile. i i think there's a u.s. senator. what that says about society, it's kind of up to the viewers. this is someone who is essentially attacking this young woman. this is a political system. in some ways it's remarkable. but when you watch the interviews with voters they're essentially saying the timing is off. that there's so much that people just don't believe. i will say as a reporter, this reminds me when the ""access hollywood"" tape came out. they said, this is locker room talk. once people have made up their mind about a candidate, they think anything else that comes out is in some way a political takedown and that they don't want to believe those things. >> do you think that's true? >> do you think it's going to be a senator? >> i do. it's sort of like a flag on the

plane. they play the replay on the jumbotron. half the stadium says it was a great call and the other half says that's terrible because it hurt my team. the problem is you have what the republican party will be sacrificing political for a political win. that's meaningless. you have to look at -- this won't go through a legal process. people have to decide whether they believe the way the story came about, which seems that the post went down. anybody else could have done it. the local papers did it and they asked a local person at the right time and they said, this is what happened. they'll point to the timing. >> jeff, what's the difference between in corporations, hollywood, media there's been a very quick move to essentially throw these people out when they're accused by something like this.

it doesn't seem to be the case in politics. if anything is true, i think ray moore saw how the rules of political gravity does not apply to him. >> he couldn't imagine we're more in alabama. we'll look at his position and see no reason to get up. he doesn't need institutional support. he never had it. if you didn't want him to be a member of the senate before this broke. he didn't have the president's support. for mike lee, for others, for jeff blake to say ray moore is beyond the pale. >> he's appealing to the same set of voters that president trump appealed to. there's no way he's getting out. refusing to obey a court order for which he twice lost his position on the alabama supreme court. >> yes. >> you have to look at that and say, there's no way he's getting out. >> i think we have this tweet

from howard dean, he wants me to say he's writing back to this. these democrats need to get on buses, i'll knock on doors. it's the opposite of what we need. if they flood the state some of this indicates this might be a winnable race for democrats. >> i guess when i look at those numbers i think your registered voters, this is alabama at the end of the day. >> it's true. there's going to be a democratic senator, it would be now. i continuously go back to the "access hollywood" tape and i continuously go back to the idea that mitch mcconnell, he might not be able to caucus. >> that is still -- >> oh, you're putting me on the spot. >> richard shelby. >> of course. >> who is still in the senate. >> no longer a member of the democratic party.

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what did you take away from the results in virginia? what does it mean? >> voters sent a sharp message that these native, divisive campaigns don't work in this country.

>> this is a referendum on the president. >> i think in some respects it was attributable to dissatisfaction with the administration. >> questions. kasie. >> is this the beginning of a democratic wave? >> in 2005 i was head of the dscc and you could smael a wave coming. the results last night smell exactly the same way. all the republicans friends better win out. >> can you win next year? the doerr certainly isn't here. >> welcome back to "kasie d.c." ralph northam defeated ed gillespie. democrats made huge gains in virginia's house of delegates. after tonight three races are still up in the air. mark warner is emerging in his

home state looking for his party to go forward. >> it was a sweep for democrats, not just at the highest level of government, but across the statehouse. what do you see, what's happened from election day in virginia? >> i think virginia democrats, we didn't caught up in trying to wheel it against 2016. we had a ferocious primary between a candidate that i endorsed who became our governor, ralph northam and tom perry ellow. they endorsed the ticket, worked hard for it. we were successful because i think virginia democrats going back 16 years when virginia was as red a state as any in the nation, when i first won as governor we focused on jobs, health care, education. how to make sure everybody gets a fair shop. >> what did you see in ed

gillespie's ads? it looks like most voters who cared about immigration voted for him. what tells you that the way that he approached that issue is potentially more in line than most democratic -- >> there's not been a democratic seat to be was as wide of a marge begin. he's won by almost 10 points in many, many decades. if other people want to mimic what we got in 2017-2018, have at t. good luck to them. >> overall turnout was the highest in 20 years. and northam's victory was popular. his approval rating in virginia, just 36% accord to go a roanoke politics score. democrats won. while the majority of the state

remains geographically seeking control by republicans. still, across the u.s. the vast majority of states still have republican governors. let's bring in house ed tore dave wasserman. our panel is also still here with us. dave, i want to talk to you about the likelihood of the house switching parties here. this is calcified in the way things are going. there's no way the house would swing back into democratic control like it last did in 2006. how realistic do you think it is that democrats could take back the house based on what you saw in the virginia election? >> very optimistioptimistic. if democrats could do one thing to get their chances, it would be at a blank chip.

democratic turnout was extraordinary on tuesday. it's a continue u woigs of the pattern that we've seen. democrats have been juiced, republicans not so much so. in 2011 we saw this. with the totality of the evidence, yes, the house is very competitive, but democrats, we see it not by a lot but by a little. >> by tonight you say by a little. >> based on everything we've seen in history, they ought to be. >> interesting. you have been following retirement. i think we may have a list of the house members, republican house members who are already retiring. it is, as you see, a relatively good one.

some of these people are really probably likely to lose, right? >> well, i would argue that they were actually probably very popular in their district and their retirements give democrats a boost. plus i have frank retiring in new jersey. the question is will republicans over the next month decide if i don't want to raise $5 million? the difference that we're seeing, no sticks. it's obvious today that democrats are in store for gain and it wasn't apparent back at this point in those election cycles. there is a good chance that the house might flip. >> there was a lot of naval gazing. rick, do you read this map the same way? do you think democrats have a better of taking back the house?

>> i think it's totally covered. so when people say eddie gill leps gillespie. it overwhelmed him particularly in northern virginia. it tells him in '18 our members, republican members, don't want to lose the trump base but they also have to know that's not enough. >> that's eventually a advice. they know they can't win without him. we see this every day covering capitol hill. they can't get what they're doing. they would potentially move the general election. oh, they also found themselves representing the district. so you have some republicans going back to their districts who fundamentally didn't believe

in the way health care was written. fundamentally didn't agree with how faction reform was written and then he had to be faced with constituents and want trump to be so much because i can. i think there is that idea that democrats, you can see it in the smugness of their faces between chuck schumer's smile and nancy pelosi. they know they are still in trouble but they can feel something changing. anybody who talks about -- there is nothing that feel that they were angry at bernie sanders or at marc are now et motivated. >> nancy pelosi told you that the door is open. can democrats do that. good job of willing her

complacency. >> in the red districts democrats did over perform what they should get in a neutral political environment by 8 points. look, i used to say there was two things democrats needed, either of two things democrats needed before 2022 to take the house, either a resettlement program to move their voters out of that or an unpopular present. >> we didn't get to your list of peter who's watching. >> thank you very much. . coming up, we'll talk with mark warner and who's he interested in hearing from in the public view. you're watching kasie d.c.

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we went to a national election that has consumed much of our politics over the course of the past few months. i want to ask you in particular

there is r there is increasing focus on michael flynn's role and particularly the role of his son. is michael son's cooperating with your investigation right now? >> we've not commented on this specific cooperation, non-cooperation of individual witnesses. what we do know is in the case of michael flynn we had an individual who was national security adviser for 24 days before he had to get fired because he didn't reveal his contacts with russians. we've had one individual related with the trump campaign mr. papadopoulos convicted of lying to the fbi because he wasn't fully forthright with the dirt they had on hillary clinton. we had this mysterious meeting with paul manafort, who's been indicted. they were saying they were offering again dirt on hillary

clinton, but what we do know and what i think the investigation in a bipartisan way has moved the needle. we do know the russians tried to cancel 21 state electoral systems and across the country we're raising our guard so that future russian meddling is stopped. there's enormous concern of how russians used social media in a way to influence the elections. >> what is the next stage for your investigation? are americans going to see public hearings with people that they recognize? >> there are still a number of individuals. michael cohen, mr. trump's lawyer. we want to bring him back. we want to bring donald trump jr. >> in a public way? >> some of these individuals, particularly mr. trump, if he's not part of the government, we've got to give them a chance to have folks hear his side of the story. i still believe we need to have

mr. kushner back before the whole committee, but these are things the chairman and i will work through. >> do you still have full confidence in chairman burr or there's some more down? >> i think it's important that we find out who paid for the sealed dossier. we have found out democrats and republicans have paid. no, richard burr and i are working well together. we have a lot of pressure on us. i have pressure from republicans and pressure from the zoom that goes very well. i think for the last close to 11 months we've done well. >> let's switch gears a little bit and talk about tax reform which of course is the next big thing on the agenda here. it seems as though chuck schumer

is rallying democrats to vote en masse against this plan. you were a businessman. why is this plan so bad for the country? >> i know we need to simplify our tax code. i know we need to bring our corporate tax rates down lower. i know we need to bring those american profits that are caught off shore, bring them back but i know we need to do it in a fiscally responsible way. >> so you think -- >> don't take my word for it. alan greenspan, a republican appointed fed chair, has pointed out that when you're close to full employment, and we are close to full employment at this point, if you do a major tax cut paid for with borrowed money, that will not lead to growth, it will simply grow the deficit and the debt. for a deficit that's going to choke our grandkids, it goes up 1 percentage point. that adds $150 billion a year.

for someone like me that's done very well. for me who has benefitted the most, it's a good plan. >> so you're a no on this also? >> the way this bill looks right now, i'm not only a no, i'm a heck no. and i'm so disappointed because the country does need meaningful tax reform. we do need to make our business rates competitive with the rest of the world. i just wish that my republican colleagues are like, hey, i know about the debt. they also know a quick hit sugar high that's unpaid for that will pay the paper in the end and we should step up. >> that was senator mark warner. ken delaney, i want to bring you back in did you learn anything from what he had to say there? did anything stick out at you? he suggested they might want to call donald trump jr. publicly

as opposed to privately. he would like to do that, right? what i took away from that, he's discussing his cooperation. this would be a much different situation. i'm also struck how the mueller investigation seems to be diverging a little bit. mueller, you know, is investigating whether mike flynn, you know, got a payoff from the turkish government. that's really not a concern to the congressional committee. they're investigating purely russia collusion. they're really holding the social media company's feet to the fire and there may be a legislative fix needed there in terms of disclosing and when foreign governments are buying ads. >> i think it's important that he acknowledged that he's

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house majority whip steve scalise almost lost his life when a gunman opened fire on congressional baseball practice back in june. four months later members of both parties cheered for scalise as he returns to the house chamber for the first time. the shooting left him severely wounded and for now unable to walk without the use of crutches. the shooting, however, has not changed his views on gun control. i spoke to congressman scalise after a ceremony to honor the five officers credited with

stopping that june shooting in alexandria, virginia. >> what's been the toughest part of your recovery? what are you still struggling to get back to? >> well, you know, i love being active. i love playing baseball, baseball, tennis. i'm learning how to walk again. i hopefully will be able to wauch one more day to get ouf of it. i just want the push the throttle as far as you can. i get better and focusing on what my doctors tell me. >> watching the ceremony and seeing as a recognition for the people that came to your rescue on this day? >> well, i got to see firsthand the heroism of our united states capitol police. crystal and david have been like family to me for a long time. they saved not only my life but the members of a will the of

other people and to see the other police officers resolved. >> you said they were out shot. we've seen so many americans who wanted to be killed. it was in face of these weapons of war. has your experience caused you to have any personal reflection about the politics of this and what should be done about those weapons? >> i'm somebody who strongly believes in the second amendment. i got to see first hack when this happened, the shooter would have killed all of us. he wasn't able to do that because we had other people with guns. you saw that text? horrible tragedy. there were some brave people who came with their own guns to con trobt the shooter and as horrible as his actions hurt, he was able to attend a

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clearly allowed powerful men to go unpunished and that led women to be silent in the face of nin things that they experienced or went through. do you think culture exists like in that the halls of congress? >> it would be naive to believe that doesn't happen. i do believe exposing these things can help the culture. it's horrendous. no woman should have to feel like they have to put up with this kind of stuff. >> that was part of my interview with paul ryan last month. since then, bomore than 1500 former hill staffers have called for mandatory harassment prevention training. democratic congressman jackie speier of california is a co-sponsor of the sexual harassment eradication resolution in the house of representatives. she recently revealed her me,

too, moment on twitter, in an effort to inspire others to come forward. she says she was sexually harassed when she was a staffer. amy klobuchar said that they should require mandatory sexual harassment training for the staff. they will hold a hearing on a sexual harassment policy. yes, they are taking action now. the fact that this is a reality incorporate america that you have to attend these trainings, sometimes we feel like we've spent too much time in these trainings but the fact that they've had to go on in capitol hill, that tells you where they are coming from on this issue. >> congress is so behind the ball on this issue. when you look at the office of compliance and the way that you're supposed to be able to file a complaint of sexual harassment, you have to wait three months before you can file a formal complaint and they force to go through mandatory mediation and counseling.

essentially, it's like some people don't want to go through this system and it's a system set up to protect congress, is what people have said. there's this idea that congress is just finally starting to realize we should not only tell people that this is a bad thing but where to go if this happens to them. i've talked to so many people who didn't know that the office of compliance existed until then. >> and people who don't live in washington are not familiar with how the hill works, the complicating thing about this is that every congressional office operates as its own and the culture of the office has a lot to do with that member of congress and senator. >> and the fact that they have a job means that you have a job. >> that's right. there's no phone number -- phone number to pick up in the hr department because there really isn't one. next is really overhauling the way in which people can report and have their claims addressed.

>> the challenge i think, rick, too, is that there's potentially a question about whether it casts an aspers persion on your party. you're seeing that play out with roy moore a little bit. >> this -- in a sense, since the harvey weinstein thing, there's been a purging -- i don't know if the that's the right word. i think it's a good thing, actually. and it's long over ddue. the idea that -- in the roy moore case, it's 40 years. but in a sense, again, we know that they weren't asked by the reporters. but again, that's a reason people would come forward is because he's going to be a u.s. senator and people say now's the time i really should speak up. >> i think there's two other important things, the point that you make as democrats look at trying to win back the house, if you're a democratic staffer who might be sexually harassed by

your boss, you realize you might then be pthreatening your partys interest when it comes to the house. if you're a young staffer who wants to be playing for the team and understands and believes in the democratic ideals but could be working for a creep. the second thing that is important is that these laws doesn't deal with interns or fellows. if you go up to capitol hill, there are people not full-time staffers trying to get ahead and as of now there's no system in place for you to say, hey, this senator or congressman sexually harassed me. that's a big area that really needs to be addressed as well. >> could potentially be the next shoe to drop in all of this. thank you for joining us tonight. see you again soon. welcome to nbc. in our next hour, the chairman of the house democratic caucus joe crowley will talk to us. plus, i'll talk to former governor bill richardson about whether the commander in chief

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president trump says he, quote, really believes putin means it when he says he didn't meddle. >> he believed vladimir putin's denial. he said, "i mean, give me a break, they're political hacks. so you look at it, you have brennan and clapper and comey." >> what does the president believe? >> he believes the assessment of the intelligence communities. >> it's really time to move on off this issue. >> i think the country is ready to move on off of this. i think the american public is ready to move on to more important issues. ? president trump unloaded essentially calling kim jong-un short and fat. >> and you think name-calling is

helpful? >> i think that was the president responding to someone who insulted him first. >> let's move on to tax reform. >> the vast majority. >> but there might be a few outliers. >> then came the roy moore store. >> the allegations graphic in their detail. >> allegations of sexual misconduct. >> with a 14-year-old girl when she was 32. >> i would just really like it if he stepped aside. >> if more evidence comes out that can prove that he did this, then, sure, that's a huge if. >> if the allegations are true. >> if these allegations are true did. >> if the allegations are true. >> if the allegations prove to be true. >> if the allegations are true, he should step aside. >> the whole thing is just crazy. >> john kasich, i think, perhaps speaking for many in america. welcome back to "kasie dc." i'm kasie hunt. those are some of the stories

that dominated the sunday shows this morning. still on set, msnbc contributor and nbc news political analyst rick tyler and joining the conversation, gracing us with his presence for the first time ever, politics editor at t"the daily beast" sam stein. thank you all for being here tonight. i actually -- i'm going to throw my producers for a loop. sam, before we get into this broader conversation, i want to ask you about this. there is a copy of joe biden's new book in which he relates a conversation he had with barack obama and he said obama was convinced that i could not beat hillary and that he weighted it a little too heavily and the president encouraged him not to run. >> well, this is the first time hearing of this and i have to say i'm not surprised, honestly. obama -- well, think about it this way. biden has run two presidential campaigns.

in each presidential campaign, they have not gone well. in the last one, he may have been within like a couple percentage points of zero in terms of the vote and there's a reason. biden is beloved by the democratic party. but his resume had all the same problems that clinton's resume had and he didn't bring much -- the crime bill is an example of this. clinton got dogged on the crime bill. it's things like that, people kind of dplglossed over this st a lot because joe biden is an incredible person and has a great story. but i think obama's judgment on that one was very much right and i'm very curious to see if biden goes forward and runs. >> i can disagree. >> you can't disagree. this is the first five minutes on the show. >> he was tailor-made for joe

biden. >> let me show you what joe biden had to say about this. >> do you think you could have beaten hillary? >> i've -- yes, but it would have been an incredibly difficult race and i have nothing but friendship for hillary. >> he says yes he could have beaten hillary. >> he would have beaten her. >> i don't really think that's -- this is a silly game but it's fun. on what grounds would he have beaten her? what was the pathway that he had that she wasn't going to choke up. >> hillary lost the voters that trump eventually gain sdped. >> we're talking about the democratic primary. >> hillary's voting base ended up being very much minority voters. >> i remember when biden ran in '88. you're right. they were not good campaigns. >> yeah. >> and polling, to be fair, at the outset showed that he was probably going to lose. >> bernie appealed to the sort

of working class union democratic vote that was there for bernie but even that, people forget this, but bernie lost and came really close but it wasn't that close. >> 4 million. >> absolutely. 4 million votes. >> you saw biden's speech. >> yeah, but everyone loves someone who doesn't run. >> i'll say this. i would say this really quickly, though. what i'm not surprised about is obama's assessment. what i'm surprised about is democrats are having this airing of all of their internal issues. i'm watching donna brazile's book and this is my stance and how the 2016 campaign could have got me, could have really won. in reality, now you guys have to get together and have a party on one page. >> i will say there was a high

place democrat in virginia who said this is great but if it causes us to ignore all of our problems, that's going to be a real issue. we need to talk a little bit about one of these top stories, republicans on the hill undecided about how to proceed and "the washington post" reported that roy moore molested a girl when he was a 32-year-old prosecutor. three other women said that he pursued them when they were teenagers. republican senators and their advisers in a flurry of phone calls, e-mails and text messages discussed fielding a write-in candidate pushing alabama's governor to delay the december 12th election or not even seating moore if elected. a spokesman for alabama governor said, the governor is not

considering and has no plans to move the special election for the united states senate. on saturday, in his first public appearance since "the washington post" report, moore denied the allegations against him and vowed to stay in the race. >> i have not been guilty of sexual misconduct with anyone. we do not intend to let the democrats or the established republicans or anybody else behind this story stop this campaign. >> some of his supporters have used biblical analogies for their support for moore and senators steve danes of montana and mike lee have pulled their endorsements and last night bill cassidy tweeted, "based on the allegations against roy moore, his response and what is known, i withdraw support." the senatorial committee has ended its fundraising agreement

with moore. two former republican presidential nominees, john mccain and mitt romney, say moore should quit the race right now. republican senator bob corker tweeted, "look, i'm sorry, but even before these reports surfaced, roy moore's nomination was a bridge too far." but some republicans have been more conditional with a lot of the use of the word "if." >> if these allegations are true? >> well, i don't know. it's a devastating, nasty story. if the revelations -- if that's true, i don't believe that there would be anyplace for him in the u.s. senate. >> would he be fit to serve in the senate if this were true? >> no. no. if there's any shred of truth, he ought to step aside immediately. >> those two clips are from when this news first broke and since then the conversation has evolved into just what might roy moore do to prove these

allegations true or false. mccain and romney are coming out and saying, look, i believe her, i believe this woman. >> yeah. it's tough to figure out what the threshold is to prove to their accounts and you have people who knew these women who said it's well known that roy moore did this. at some point, i need to know and i think the general public should know and they said yeah, this is true and this is bad. i'm more disheartened a little bit by what is happening today, which is the bright paeitbart rs going down to alabama to dig up dirt on the accusers of roy moore. we have a problem with women fearing to come out to say what happened because of a tremendous amount of backlash.

people are saying, why did you wait 40 years? roy moore himself says why did it take so long to come forward? because you send out breitbart reporters. >> they were afraid of this happening. >> i'm taken aback by the biblical references, people saying that mary was only a teenager when she got with joseph. this is someone accused of being a pedophile and women who now have to essentially be attacked and defend themselves not just the allegations of what's going on by proving it, by giving contemporary people and saying, i told this person and this person, and now they have to defend themselves personally and what they've been doing for the last 40 years. i think it's really problematic. as a political reporter, we're going to have to talk about senator roy moore. he's on his way to the senate

and would be very surprised unless something else happens. now, whether or not they seat him or they give him committee assignments, it's a whole other story. i don't think republicans have much that they can do to him. >> they did the research and and to anisha's point, it does seem that this reaction to moore is distinct from culture and media corporate america where this has started to happen and people have immediately rejected when there are overwhelming accusations like this and said, no, and i think there was at least some polling that showed that this has no impact or makes people more likely to vote for

roy. >> there's a lot of things going on here. one is because of the timing and they have tried to say that the media is not reliable and can't trust them so there's that and then you have all of the wrong people and you have bob corker seen as a moderate and you have all of those things coming together and this is not going to be -- there's going to be no court, no trial, no real witnesses as their testimony so this is going to happen in the political context. people are going to have to make up their mind whether they believe the reporting. >> and they are already, to your point, fundraising. again, nbc chuck todd, "it felt orchestrated and they are sending out fundraising e-mails saying because mcconnell opposes

me on this, you should. >> well, we can't ignore the subtext here, which is we went through a 2016 election where 14 women accused donald trump of some form of harassment. and there were certainly reports that he had gone into while miss teen usa locker room or changing there. and he got elected. so they say, yeah, he was accused of -- roy moore was accused of molesting a 14-year-old but he will probably run re-election. >> i remember being on the road

when "the new york times" was talking about these women, talking about women who were talking about the president of the united states doing things that they thought was inappropriate. >> it has a preneesh shous way proving to get out of this, which is deny, deny, deny, attack the accusers and the press and wait until something hits the opposition. >> the republican woman i was talking to, the other important thing, apart from politics, this is the way my husband is, this is the way that my husband talks. that's different. that's american households and what women have to deal with in their own homes. that changes the conversation. it's not just about politics but what people are dealing with. >> i wonder, too, is that part of what we're seeing and we've seen overwhelming numbers of democratic women show up in the suburbs of the virginia watching all of this happen and say, this is -- i'm not going to stand for

this. >> right. sean hannity gave a tough interview of roy moore and it his candidacy should have ended with that interview. he essentially -- he was asked whether he dated teenaged girls. he said i don't remember. generally, no. i always asked their mother's permission. >> it was very strange. roy moore says i didn't do what they accused me of doing, which is the criminal aspect of it. but all of the people in alabama, the party leaders who went on record, none of them seemed to say, no, he didn't do this. they all came up with the mary/joseph excuse or some other excuse or absurd things. >> some major advertisers have pulled advertising from his

show. i want to switch gears because president trump is starting his day in the philippines. he's already in manila. he met with president duterte. he said, "why would kim jong-un insult me by calling me old? when i would never call him short and fat. oh well, i try so hard to be his friend and maybe some day that will happen." joining us is the former governor of new mexico as well as bill richardson. governor, thank you for being on the program tonight. >> thank you, kasie. >> good to see you. can i ask you first about that tweet? you're a player yourself in american relations with north

korea. what kind of impact will a tweet like that have on somebody who, by all accounts, seems to be someone who is very unpredictable, an unknown quantity to american intelligence? >> well, i always try to say something positive about the president's foreign policy with great difficulty, but i think so far the north korea aspect of the trip was going decently until this tweet. this is going to really upset kim jong-un. yes, he's insulted the president, too. but the north koreans are very sensitive to these kind of insults. i remember i was in north korea once when president bush said his father, kim jong-un's father was a dwarf and i just never stopped hearing about it. you don't need to do that. i mean, we should focus on finding a dip pro-mat particular solution, not insulting. and the president keeps doing that. he doesn't listen.

it's very damaging. especially in asia when these are saving face issues. >> i was going to say, that's not something we really deal with much in u.s. politics but very critical as these relationships unfold. do you think that at some point this just becomes all part of the noise? i mean, to a certain he can tent, we hear in the u.s., as we cover american politics, have gotten to the point where we say, oh, yeah, okay, it's just another day. is that something that could be true here? i mean, the idea that president george w. bush would make such a misstep, he would be out of character fundamentally. i'm not sure this tweet from the president is necessarily out of step from that perspective. >> diplomacy is very traditional. especially in asia. you have all of this pomp and circumstance and tradition and you've got very, very firm structure of how you conduct yourself. you don't insult anybody.

you find ways to save face, to reach agreements. and i think on the north korea issue, the president did well in getting sensitivity across the board. and you didn't get them to stop oil shipments and out of china back in to north korea or finding ways to shut down korean accounts in china that that was a little bit of a setback, although china's done more. and then to go in and inflame the bilateral nonrelationship with north korea with these insults is just going to add fuel to the fire and it's unfortunate. actually, you're already seeing the north koreans react to the entire trip. you don't need to do that.

>> i want to ask you about another issue that we've been sorting through on this side of the pacific as the president has met briefly with vladimir putin and talked to reporters on saturday night and essentially said, yes, every time i see him, he tells me he did not meddle in the u.s. election and he believes that very strongly auto the intelligence agencies that assess and in fact they did, what kind of message does this send back here in the u.s.? does it make it harder for the intelligence agencies to function abroad? >> well, it does, because the impression given abroad is that the president doesn't listen to the intelligence agencies. in fact, he's fighting them. and demeaning some of the distinguished leaders of our intelligence committee, republicans and democrats that have served for many years. so it undermines, i think, the

threat of american diplomacy. secondly, it sends a message that he won't attack putin. he won't take putin on. he loves putin. he's unover wewhelmed by putin. this is an opportunity for him to say, you meddled in our election. you shouldn't do that. let's work together on syria, on getting assad out and onnize to maybe find a way to help on north korea because russia can help us a little bit. they are on the border with north korea and and instead, you know, we get sidetracked by this love affair that america seems to have with vladimir putin and siding with him over our own top intelligence officials. that doesn't make sense.

>> the president said that he would rather talk about getting some help. the panel is going to stick with me and still to come, will signs of the democratic wave wash up on the shores of michigan? that's in tonight's states of play. but first, congressman joe crowley is standing by. we'll talk to him about the republican tax reform plan coming to the floor this week. as we go to break, protests from the press corps over access in asia. i want to underscore this. doug mills tweeting this giant black frame. he says, this is what it looks like today in da nang vietnam. blank. i just want to point out to all of you this is not the normal way of doing business and should not be considered acceptable.

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joining me now is the chairman of the house democratic caucus joe crowley. congressman, great to see you on the show. thank you for taking the time. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> so let's start with what happened this week in virginia. of course, ralph northam winning by a much wider margin but also the house of delegates races, a lot of unexpected places. what do you read into what happened? how would you caution democrats about getting too excited about it or do you think -- i mean, in so much as they should keep in mind that there are still a lot of divisions that you guys have to deal with or what is your view of what happened? >> i think people are always afraid of people getting too ahead of their skis. i think in this case, we want the enthusiasm to develop within our party and to propel us next

year going into the 2018 elections. it's all about bringing balance back to washington and i think that's what we saw in new jersey a certainly in virginia and you saw a 5% increase in the voter turnout and almost double digit victories and that speaks about the concern that the american people have and the direction of our country and i think it modes well for next year. >> do you think the chances that you win back the house are better than the chances that you don't? >> i think the door is wide open. i think that there's probably a better 50% chance that we do win the house back and that would

continue to grow. success breeds success. i know that when we look at the number of excited candidates that we have running all over the country, over 250 have registered and we had some folks in to see that room filled with so many excited individuals who are concerned about the direction and focus of our country and where it's going, concerned about the trump administration and they have a compelling need to contribute. they feel like they have to help their country and i think that's a very powerful, powerful tool to have. >> congressman, do you think that democrats could go too far? one democratic congressman is proposing essentially a vote on impeachment resolution on the floor. i'm glossing over some of the technicalities of that. it's been something that leadership has tried to push back against. can progressives go too far and potentially get in the way of this overall goal? >> i think there's a growing,

growing movement out there that we'd like to see something happen here in terms of what they've been hearing and compromise the elections of 2016. and what i will say and continue to say, robert mueller is doing a great job. he's investigating wherever that may lead. i don't think you can prosecute the president without evidence and i think that's what is really happening here. let the evidence take it where it will and then congress would have to react to that. so there's a ways to go here. i do think there's a growing sense out there that there's something really wrong with this presidency. >> congressman, we played a sound bite of joe biden earlier telling oprah that he thinks he could have beaten hillary clinton in the democratic primary. do you agree with that assessment? >> i think it's a little too easy to go back and play monday morning quarterback knowing the results of the election. whenever we have a difficult

election like we did and we lost, people will say i could have done better. i have great respect for vice president joe biden. i think he's a great, great man, a great american. he would have been a very competitive person in the primary. i still think, though, that hillary clinton, in all likelihood, would have ran. we'll never know because it never happened. >> congressman, who in the democratic party is capable of beating president trump in 2020? >> i think there are a number and to put me into that kind of a position was difficult. >> suggestions. any name. throw out names. >> i think the great infrastructure governor of our time is governor cuomo. when you look at amy klobuchar, i think she's a fantastic senator. i think senator gillibrand and mark warner and michael bennett and joaquin castro. there's numerous folks out there looking at this that are all qualified and i do think we're

going to have a very spirited debate. >> you just gave me the laundry list. >> i think it's going to be a fairly large laundry list of individuals but i think it's going to be good and clean laundry as well and see the talent that exists in our party that can help propel us towards winning that election. first next year and that is to bring balance back. winning back the house of representatives, winning back the senate, we'll bring that balance to the american people who are really desperate for it right now. >> congressman, very quickly, we have to go. >> sure. >> what do you think voters will look for the most coming out of this? are they going to look for a personality that can stand up to trump or do you think they'll find more appeal in somebody who is quieter or exudes confidence? what is going to be the driving narrative? >> that is yet to be determined but i do think right now what people are looking for are people who can stand up to president trump, can expose, you

know, even in more detail what he's all about and pull that kurt contin curtain back and the people he's exploited throughout the years to get to where he is, that really speaks volumes and someone who is not only running against president trump, but as a future for america. and talking about the positive, what america's potential is in infrastructure and providing -- making sure that everyone has a quality education and everyone has access to health care. that's the kind of person that we're looking for. it's a combination of being able to expose the true donald trump and at the same time set forth an agenda that is a positive agenda, a growth agenda for america. >> congressman joe crowley, thank you. a story that in any other news cycle would be getting more attention but it isn't because so much of what is going on. our segment "undercovered" is up

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you are looking live at president trump who has arrived now at the asean summit in the

philippines where he will be meeting over the course of the coming hours with the president of the philippines, rodrigo duterte. it's 9:35 a.m. in asia. as we're getting ready to conclude our evening here. so there you can see the president with, i believe, rodrigo duterte and they are posing for photos. we are not anticipating any remarks from the president but if we see new pictures, we'll bring them right to you. but in the meantime, welcome back to kasie dc. it's not every day that a sitting u.s. senator goes on trial for corruption and yet the case of bob menendez has gone largely under covered. >> i'm a firm believer in god. it is that faith that i believe will ultimately render verdict

of not guilty and between that faith and my family, i've been a very blessed man. thank you. >> the democratic senator of new jersey is facing an 18-count federal indictment and is awaiting a jury's verdict. menendez is charged with accepting expensive gifts, like luxury vacations from a florida eye doctor and in exchange menendez used his office to influence business decisions. if he's convicted and forced to resign, new jersey's governor would pick his replacement. the timing here is very important because the current governor, chris christie, is a republican. come january 16th, the task of replacing men nen des, should that become necessary, would fall to democratic phil murphy, who was elected governor on tuesday. sam stein, what do we think happens here if he does get con

convicted? that puts democrats in a really tough spot and we have -- we have paid so much attention to this. >> first of all, again, the context here is bad. whether or not there was an illegal act, he clearly was the recipient of a donor and overtures made to help that donor. objectively you could say this sound and smells bad. the problem for the prosecution is that we have now a new precedent that has been set through the mcdonald trial which was essentially you really do have to prove like a very, very concrete quid pro quo in order to get a conviction. if you talk to people about this it looks like it will be a hung jury. let's put that as the context. let's say he does get convicted. he does not have to resign. >> no. >> the body has to vote and

force him out. if enough democrats say, you know what, we're not going to take that action until the next governor is seated, then the next governor -- >> they may try to force a vote along those lines. >> sure. and from who i've talked to, they are perfectly willing to say, you know what, just like you did this merrick garland -- >> what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> right. >> hold that thought. coming up next, stick around for this. i really loved this story. it's a love story for veterans day weekend. a former marine's remarkable journey from ptsd to prison and then redemption. this is kasie dc. able to sneak out of here and go have a cigarette? i just knew i had to quit, and chantix was the method that actually worked for me. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix,

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and then something like north korea, what is it the president can do without any input from congress? i think people would be shocked to know what those things are. we have some members like senator markey, he's concerned about what a president can do about launching a nuclear weapon in 120 seconds. so all of these things will be discussed. >> one of the plot lines to watch very carefully this week. see it on mike barnicle's face. senator bob corker, who had questioned the president's fitness for this power will hold

a hearing on tuesday looking into the process of just how a president can hit the big red button, as it were. it's the first time congress has looked into the president's nuclear authority in 40 years. joining me now on set here is jeffrey engel at southern methodist university and author of "when the world seemed new, george h.w. bush and the end of the cold war." the thing that stuck out to me the most, of course, is you learned and you talk at length about george h.w. bush's approach to our nuclear arie ar and what lessons do you think george h.w. bush would have for the president on that? >> the best lesson that he has is one that he's really unlikely to take. president bush's real success during this period of great t

tumult was not doing anything to be more obstructive and making sure you speak quietly in front of the camera even privately behind the scenes. even if president bush had had twitter, he wouldn't have used it. >> he wouldn't have called kim jong-un short and fat? >> he was not the insult candidate. >> forgive me for laughing. corker holding this meeting saying i want to see what it would take because of who suddenly has the keys. >> you know, this was actually an issue prior to the election. you might recall one of the more alarming ads that the clinton campaign ran was with someone who actually works in the process of launching a nuclear weapon and talked specifically about how little, how few steps you have to take. this is a relic of the cold war era where you wanted to be able to respond quickly and didn't have to go through these checks and balances. the question that senator markey

has been asking on capitol hill is do we not really want to have any checks and balances? it's a difficult question to ponder because you have to, on the one hand, weigh having an impulsive president like we do now and on the actually game out nuclear theory. what happens if a weapon is launched at us? these hearings are fascinating. the thing is, this conversation was happening really in some close circles but very vigorously prior to this election of donald trump. >> my sense, too, is that congress doesn't exactly act particularly quickly. sam's point is well taken. you can't go too far to strip the president from the powers. >> there's no doubt about it. the president needs the immediate response. what's really important is that the very fact that we're having this conversation. the fact this has risen to the level that on national tv we're discussing whether or not the president's authority should be diminished. that's the first time since 1945 that anyone has really questioned diminishing the president's authority when it

cops to nuclear weapons. the war powers act did didminis it. >> anyone who goes to capitol hill, understanding bob corker is ready and feeling liberated to talk about president trump and to talk about his various flaws as he sees them. i think the fact he's having this hearing goes to this idea that republicans have to be liberated before they have have conversations that a lot are having on background or off the record. the other thing is i want to see what republicans are going to go and start questioning this and then go back to their district and explain to the people who voted for donald trump that they voted to strip his powers away. that's where republicans will have their biggest problems. >> it's a good point that it's republicans bringing up this -- you mentioned the campaign ad that democrats ran. >> it was a very hard hitting one. i think you can't forget that donald trump seems to have this

affinity and fascination for nuclear weapons. as our colleague morning joe know noted, he brought it up in the private talk where he was talking about just -- how many nuclear weapons we have and what it would mean to actually launch them. there's been reporting that he is wondering -- he never really -- you ruled out using a nuke, even in europe. that's a rhetorical device. he has a fascination. he also now has the tools at his disposal. we really do need to have a sober and ernest conversation about what is the process in place for a president to be able to say, you know what, we need to push that button. does it have to be defensive? does it have to go through congress? can it go through the cabinet? >> that seems to be a different perspective than what we heard from george h.w. bush in this new book. >> it's amazing. every president since eisenhower, when they come into office, have been giving a briefing explaining what nuclear weapons would do. it has a sobering affect on

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for donald trump again? >> yes. absolutely. more republicans after that. it's going to take a while to turn this ship around. donald just got his hands on the wheel. >> reporter: in the wake of ed gillespie's loss, campaigns across the country are rethinking their posture to the president. >> one of the things about the campaign shows you is you can't fake the trump agenda. this is again da is a winning agenda. mccomb county has to lead the way. >> reporter: both sides are hungry for voters for krichris. he vote obama but now he supports president trump. >> in large measure, the democrat party has abandoned its working class roots. president trump has reluctantly forced other republicans to pick up that mantra. >> reporter: now many expected trump agenda to propel them. >> i look forward to the president of the united states, donald trump, coming to michigan, campaigning for me,

and we're going to talk about jobs and paypaychecks. >> reporter: that's a winning message? >> it still is. >> when we talk about the issues that affect the real lives of people, i think over time they're going to realize that this president is not really the answer. >> at this moment in time, absolutely vote for him. this time i would double up the number and campaign even harder. >> reporter: democrats have less than a year to persuade voters to come back to the party they once knew. final thoughts from our panel here. i am quickly going to say, i'm looking for tax reform. we're expecting a vote this week. are we here midnight thursday night as they're trying to get it finished? is it a breeze? my money is on a breeze. >> a breeze?

>> closer to a breeze than not. >> we'it's your show. go ahead. >> i'm going to be watching for sexual harassment and seeing what comes of that and what stories come out this week. just what senators and congressmen plan on doing about this issue. >> obviously, alabama. i want to know if anything else comes up with roy moore's past. i'm fascinated what's happening online. there's a big battle under way between sean hannity and occkur. this could be the battle royale. no one could be drinking kurig. maybe i'm with -- >> kurig will win. >> the president's tour which didn't produce any breakthroughs was overwhelmed by the roy moore story. he will come back into that story. we will see how he handled it.

>> it's a difficult line. that does it for our show tonight. we are apparently anti-kurig. join us from 7:00 to 9:00 and follow us on twitter. good night from washington. president trump's asia trip is about pushing asia. what is kim jong-un going to do? will he push back? it's the most dangerous conflict in the world. i got right up to the front lines in the cockpit of an f-16. this is about the north edge of theseven miles from the north korea border. >> this is as far as you can go without provoking a war? >> yep.