tv Kasie DC MSNBC November 13, 2017 1:00am-2:00am PST
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>> allegations of sexual misconduct. >> with a 14-year-old girl when she was 32. >> i would just really like it if he stepped aside. >> if more evidence comes out that can prove that he did this, then, sure, that's a huge if. >> if the allegations are true. >> if these allegations are true did. >> if the allegations are true. >> if the allegations prove to be true. >> if the allegations are true, he should step aside. >> the whole thing is just crazy. >> john kasich, i think, perhaps speaking for many in america. welcome back to "kasie dc." i'm kasie hunt. those are some of the stories that dominated the sunday shows
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this morning. still on set, msnbc contributor and nbc news political analyst rick tyler and joining the conversation, gracing us with his presence for the first time ever, politics editor at "the daily beast" sam stein. thank you all for being here tonight. i actually -- i'm going to throw my producers for a loop. sam, before we get into this broader conversation, i want to ask you about this. there is a copy of joe biden's new book in which he relates a conversation he had with barack obama and he said obama was convinced that i could not beat hillary and that he weighted it a little too heavily and the president encouraged him not to run. >> well, this is the first time hearing of this and i have to say i'm not surprised, honestly. obama -- well, think about it this way. biden has run two presidential campaigns. in each presidential campaign,
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they have not gone well. in the last one, he may have been within like a couple percentage points of zero in terms of the vote and there's a reason. biden is beloved by the democratic party. but his resume had all the same problems that clinton's resume had and he didn't bring much -- the crime bill is an example of this. clinton got dogged on the crime bill. it's things like that, people kind of glossed over this stuff a lot because joe biden is an incredible person and has a great story. but i think obama's judgment on that one was very much right and i'm very curious to see if biden goes forward and runs. >> i can disagree. >> you can't disagree. this is the first five minutes on the show. >> he was tailor-made for joe biden. >> let me show you what joe
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biden had to say about this. >> do you think you could have beaten hillary? >> i've -- yes, but it would have been an incredibly difficult race and i have nothing but friendship for hillary. >> he says yes he could have beaten hillary. >> he would have beaten her. >> i don't really think that's -- this is a silly game but it's fun. on what grounds would he have beaten her? what was the pathway that he had that she wasn't going to choke up. >> hillary lost the voters that trump eventually gained. >> we're talking about the democratic primary. >> hillary's voting base ended up being very much minority voters. >> i remember when biden ran in '88. you're right. they were not good campaigns. >> yeah. >> and polling, to be fair, at the outset showed that he was probably going to lose. >> bernie appealed to the sort of working class union
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democratic vote that was there for bernie but even that, people forget this, but bernie lost and came really close but it wasn't that close. >> 4 million. >> absolutely. 4 million votes. >> you saw biden's speech. >> yeah, but everyone loves someone who doesn't run. >> i'll say this. i would say this really quickly, though. what i'm not surprised about is obama's assessment. what i'm surprised about is democrats are having this airing of all of their internal issues. i'm watching donna brazile's book and this is my stance and how the 2016 campaign could have got me, could have really won. in reality, now you guys have to get together and have a party on one page. >> i will say there was a high place democrat in virginia who said this is great but if it causes us to ignore all of our problems, that's going to be a
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real issue. we need to talk a little bit about one of these top stories, republicans on the hill undecided about how to proceed and "the washington post" reported that roy moore molested a girl when he was a 32-year-old prosecutor. three other women said that he pursued them when they were teenagers. republican senators and their advisers in a flurry of phone calls, e-mails and text messages discussed fielding a write-in candidate pushing alabama's governor to delay the december 12th election or not even seating moore if elected. a spokesman for alabama governor said, the governor is not
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considering and has no plans to move the special election for the united states senate. on saturday, in his first public appearance since "the washington post" report, moore denied the allegations against him and vowed to stay in the race. >> i have not been guilty of sexual misconduct with anyone. we do not intend to let the democrats or the established republicans or anybody else behind this story stop this campaign. >> some of his supporters have used biblical analogies for their support for moore and senators steve danes of montana and mike lee have pulled their endorsements and last night bill cassidy tweeted, "based on the allegations against roy moore, his response and what is known, i withdraw support." the senatorial committee has ended its fundraising agreement
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with moore. two former republican presidential nominees, john mccain and mitt romney, say moore should quit the race right now. republican senator bob corker tweeted, "look, i'm sorry, but even before these reports surfaced, roy moore's nomination was a bridge too far." but some republicans have been more conditional with a lot of the use of the word "if." >> if these allegations are true? >> well, i don't know. it's a devastating, nasty story. if the revelations -- if that's true, i don't believe that there would be anyplace for him in the u.s. senate. >> would he be fit to serve in the senate if this were true? >> no. no. if there's any shred of truth, he ought to step aside immediately. >> those two clips are from when this news first broke and since then the conversation has evolved into just what might roy moore do to prove these allegations true or false.
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mccain and romney are coming out and saying, look, i believe her, i believe this woman. >> yeah. it's tough to figure out what the threshold is to prove to their accounts and you have people who knew these women who said it's well known that roy moore did this. at some point, i need to know and i think the general public should know and they said yeah, this is true and this is bad. i'm more disheartened a little bit by what is happening today, which is the breitbart reporters going down to alabama to dig up dirt on the accusers of roy moore. we have a problem with women fearing to come out to say what happened because of a tremendous amount of backlash. people are saying, why did you
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wait 40 years? roy moore himself says why did it take so long to come forward? because you send out breitbart reporters. >> they were afraid of this happening. >> i'm taken aback by the biblical references, people saying that mary was only a teenager when she got with joseph. this is someone accused of being a pedophile and women who now have to essentially be attacked and defend themselves not just the allegations of what's going on by proving it, by giving contemporary people and saying, i told this person and this person, and now they have to defend themselves personally and what they've been doing for the last 40 years. i think it's really problematic. as a political reporter, we're going to have to talk about senator roy moore. he's on his way to the senate
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and would be very surprised unless something else happens. now, whether or not they seat him or they give him committee assignments, it's a whole other story. i don't think republicans have much that they can do to him. >> they did the research and and to anisha's point, it does seem that this reaction to moore is distinct from culture and media corporate america where this has started to happen and people have immediately rejected when there are overwhelming accusations like this and said, no, and i think there was at least some polling that showed that this has no impact or makes people more likely to vote for roy. >> there's a lot of things going on here.
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one is because of the timing and they have tried to say that the media is not reliable and can't trust them so there's that and then you have all of the wrong people and you have bob corker seen as a moderate and you have all of those things coming together and this is not going to be -- there's going to be no court, no trial, no real witnesses as their testimony so this is going to happen in the political context. people are going to have to make up their mind whether they believe the reporting. >> and they are already, to your point, fundraising. again, nbc chuck todd, "it felt orchestrated and they are sending out fundraising e-mails saying because mcconnell opposes me on this, you should.
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>> well, we can't ignore the subtext here, which is we went through a 2016 election where 14 women accused donald trump of some form of harassment. and there were certainly reports that he had gone into while miss teen usa locker room or changing there. and he got elected. so they say, yeah, he was accused of -- roy moore was accused of molesting a 14-year-old but he will probably run re-election. >> i remember being on the road when "the new york times" was talking about these women,
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talking about women who were talking about the president of the united states doing things that they thought was inappropriate. >> it has a preneesh shous way proving to get out of this, which is deny, deny, deny, attack the accusers and the press and wait until something hits the opposition. >> the republican woman i was talking to, the other important thing, apart from politics, this is the way my husband is, this is the way that my husband talks. that's different. that's american households and what women have to deal with in their own homes. that changes the conversation. it's not just about politics but what people are dealing with. >> i wonder, too, is that part of what we're seeing and we've seen overwhelming numbers of democratic women show up in the suburbs of the virginia watching all of this happen and say, this is -- i'm not going to stand for this. >> right.
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sean hannity gave a tough interview of roy moore and it his candidacy should have ended with that interview. he essentially -- he was asked whether he dated teenaged girls. he said i don't remember. generally, no. i always asked their mother's permission. >> it was very strange. roy moore says i didn't do what they accused me of doing, which is the criminal aspect of it. but all of the people in alabama, the party leaders who went on record, none of them seemed to say, no, he didn't do this. they all came up with the mary/joseph excuse or some other excuse or absurd things. >> some major advertisers have pulled advertising from his show.
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i want to switch gears because president trump is starting his day in the philippines. he's already in manila. he met with president duterte. he said, "why would kim jong-un insult me by calling me old? when i would never call him short and fat. oh well, i try so hard to be his friend and maybe some day that will happen." joining us is the former governor of new mexico as well as bill richardson. governor, thank you for being on the program tonight. >> thank you, kasie. >> good to see you. can i ask you first about that tweet? you're a player yourself in american relations with north korea.
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what kind of impact will a tweet like that have on somebody who, by all accounts, seems to be someone who is very unpredictable, an unknown quantity to american intelligence? >> well, i always try to say something positive about the president's foreign policy with great difficulty, but i think so far the north korea aspect of the trip was going decently until this tweet. this is going to really upset kim jong-un. yes, he's insulted the president, too. but the north koreans are very sensitive to these kind of insults. i remember i was in north korea once when president bush said his father, kim jong-un's father was a dwarf and i just never stopped hearing about it. you don't need to do that. i mean, we should focus on finding a dip pro-mat particular solution, not insulting. and the president keeps doing that. he doesn't listen. it's very damaging.
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especially in asia when these are saving face issues. >> i was going to say, that's not something we really deal with much in u.s. politics but very critical as these relationships unfold. do you think that at some point this just becomes all part of the noise? i mean, to a certain he can tent, we hear in the u.s., as we cover american politics, have gotten to the point where we say, oh, yeah, okay, it's just another day. is that something that could be true here? i mean, the idea that president george w. bush would make such a misstep, he would be out of character fundamentally. i'm not sure this tweet from the president is necessarily out of step from that perspective. >> diplomacy is very traditional. especially in asia. you have all of this pomp and circumstance and tradition and you've got very, very firm structure of how you conduct yourself. you don't insult anybody.
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you find ways to save face, to reach agreements. and i think on the north korea issue, the president did well in getting sensitivity across the board. and you didn't get them to stop oil shipments and out of china back in to north korea or finding ways to shut down korean accounts in china that that was a little bit of a setback, although china's done more. and then to go in and inflame the bilateral nonrelationship with north korea with these insults is just going to add fuel to the fire and it's unfortunate. actually, you're already seeing the north koreans react to the entire trip. you don't need to do that.
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>> i want to ask you about another issue that we've been sorting through on this side of the pacific as the president has met briefly with vladimir putin and talked to reporters on saturday night and essentially said, yes, every time i see him, he tells me he did not meddle in the u.s. election and he believes that very strongly auto the intelligence agencies that assess and in fact they did, what kind of message does this send back here in the u.s.? does it make it harder for the intelligence agencies to function abroad? >> well, it does, because the impression given abroad is that the president doesn't listen to the intelligence agencies. in fact, he's fighting them. and demeaning some of the distinguished leaders of our intelligence committee, republicans and democrats that have served for many years.
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so it undermines, i think, the threat of american diplomacy. secondly, it sends a message that he won't attack putin. he won't take putin on. he loves putin. he's unoverwhelmed by putin. this is an opportunity for him to say, you meddled in our election. you shouldn't do that. let's work together on syria, on getting assad out and onnize to maybe find a way to help on north korea because russia can help us a little bit. they are on the border with north korea and and instead, you know, we get sidetracked by this love affair that america seems to have with vladimir putin and siding with him over our own top intelligence officials. that doesn't make sense. >> the president said that he
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would rather talk about getting some help. the panel is going to stick with me and still to come, will signs of the democratic wave wash up on the shores of michigan? that's in tonight's states of play. but first, congressman joe crowley is standing by. we'll talk to him about the republican tax reform plan coming to the floor this week. as we go to break, protests from the press corps over access in asia. i want to underscore this. doug mills tweeting this giant black frame. he says, this is what it looks like today in da nang vietnam. blank. i just want to point out to all of you this is not the normal way of doing business and should not be considered acceptable.
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joining me now is the chairman of the house democratic caucus joe crowley. congressman, great to see you on the show. thank you for taking the time. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> so let's start with what happened this week in virginia. of course, ralph northam winning by a much wider margin but also the house of delegates races, a lot of unexpected places. what do you read into what happened? how would you caution democrats about getting too excited about it or do you think -- i mean, in so much as they should keep in mind that there are still a lot of divisions that you guys have to deal with or what is your view of what happened? >> i think people are always afraid of people getting too ahead of their skis. i think in this case, we want the enthusiasm to develop within
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our party and to propel us next year going into the 2018 elections. it's all about bringing balance back to washington and i think that's what we saw in new jersey a certainly in virginia and you saw a 5% increase in the voter turnout and almost double digit victories and that speaks about the concern that the american people have and the direction of our country and i think it modes well for next year. >> do you think the chances that you win back the house are better than the chances that you don't? >> i think the door is wide open. i think that there's probably a better 50% chance that we do win
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the house back and that would continue to grow. success breeds success. i know that when we look at the number of excited candidates that we have running all over the country, over 250 have registered and we had some folks in to see that room filled with so many excited individuals who are concerned about the direction and focus of our country and where it's going, concerned about the trump administration and they have a compelling need to contribute. they feel like they have to help their country and i think that's a very powerful, powerful tool to have. >> congressman, do you think that democrats could go too far? one democratic congressman is proposing essentially a vote on impeachment resolution on the floor. i'm glossing over some of the technicalities of that. it's been something that leadership has tried to push back against.
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can progressives go too far and potentially get in the way of this overall goal? >> i think there's a growing, growing movement out there that we'd like to see something happen here in terms of what they've been hearing and compromise the elections of 2016. and what i will say and continue to say, robert mueller is doing a great job. he's investigating wherever that may lead. i don't think you can prosecute the president without evidence and i think that's what is really happening here. let the evidence take it where it will and then congress would have to react to that. so there's a ways to go here. i do think there's a growing sense out there that there's something really wrong with this presidency. >> congressman, we played a sound bite of joe biden earlier telling oprah that he thinks he could have beaten hillary clinton in the democratic primary. do you agree with that assessment? >> i think it's a little too easy to go back and play monday morning quarterback knowing the results of the election. whenever we have a difficult election like we did and we
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lost, people will say i could have done better. i have great respect for vice president joe biden. i think he's a great, great man, a great american. he would have been a very competitive person in the primary. i still think, though, that hillary clinton, in all likelihood, would have ran. we'll never know because it never happened. >> congressman, who in the democratic party is capable of beating president trump in 2020? >> i think there are a number and to put me into that kind of a position was difficult. >> suggestions. any name. throw out names. >> i think the great infrastructure governor of our time is governor cuomo. when you look at amy klobuchar, i think she's a fantastic senator. i think senator gillibrand and mark warner and michael bennett and joaquin castro. there's numerous folks out there looking at this that are all qualified and i do think we're going to have a very spirited debate.
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>> you just gave me the laundry list. >> i think it's going to be a fairly large laundry list of individuals but i think it's going to be good and clean laundry as well and see the talent that exists in our party that can help propel us towards winning that election. first next year and that is to bring balance back. winning back the house of representatives, winning back the senate, we'll bring that balance to the american people who are really desperate for it right now. >> congressman, very quickly, we have to go. >> sure. >> what do you think voters will look for the most coming out of this? are they going to look for a personality that can stand up to trump or do you think they'll find more appeal in somebody who is quieter or exudes confidence? what is going to be the driving narrative? >> that is yet to be determined but i do think right now what people are looking for are people who can stand up to president trump, can expose, you know, even in more detail what
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he's all about and pull that curtain back and the people he's exploited throughout the years to get to where he is, that really speaks volumes and someone who is not only running against president trump, but as a future for america. and talking about the positive, what america's potential is in infrastructure and providing -- making sure that everyone has a quality education and everyone has access to health care. that's the kind of person that we're looking for. it's a combination of being able to expose the true donald trump and at the same time set forth an agenda that is a positive agenda, a growth agenda for america. >> congressman joe crowley, thank you. a story that in any other news cycle would be getting more attention but it isn't because so much of what is going on. our segment "undercovered" is up next.
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you are looking live at president trump who has arrived now at the asean summit in the philippines where he will be meeting over the course of the coming hours with the president of the philippines, rodrigo duterte. it's 9:35 a.m. in asia. as we're getting ready to conclude our evening here. so there you can see the president with, i believe, rodrigo duterte and they are posing for photos. we are not anticipating any remarks from the president but if we see new pictures, we'll bring them right to you. but in the meantime, welcome back to kasie dc. it's not every day that a sitting u.s. senator goes on trial for corruption and yet the case of bob menendez has gone largely under covered. >> i'm a firm believer in god. it is that faith that i believe will ultimately render verdict
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of not guilty and between that faith and my family, i've been a very blessed man. thank you. >> the democratic senator of new jersey is facing an 18-count federal indictment and is awaiting a jury's verdict. menendez is charged with accepting expensive gifts, like luxury vacations from a florida eye doctor and in exchange menendez used his office to influence business decisions. if he's convicted and forced to resign, new jersey's governor would pick his replacement. the timing here is very important because the current governor, chris christie, is a republican. come january 16th, the task of replacing men nen des, should that become necessary, would fall to democratic phil murphy, who was elected governor on tuesday. sam stein, what do we think happens here if he does get con convicted? that puts democrats in a really
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tough spot and we have -- we have paid so much attention to this. >> first of all, again, the context here is bad. whether or not there was an illegal act, he clearly was the recipient of a donor and overtures made to help that donor. objectively you could say this sound and smells bad. the problem for the prosecution is that we have now a new precedent that has been set through the mcdonald trial which was essentially you really do have to prove like a very, very concrete quid pro quo in order to get a conviction. if you talk to people about this it looks like it will be a hung jury. let's put that as the context. let's say he does get convicted. he does not have to resign. >> no. >> the body has to vote and force him out.
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if enough democrats say, you know what, we're not going to take that action until the next governor is seated, then the next governor -- >> they may try to force a vote along those lines. >> sure. and from who i've talked to, they are perfectly willing to say, you know what, just like you did this merrick garland -- >> what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> right. >> hold that thought. coming up next, stick around for this. i really loved this story. it's a love story for veterans day weekend. a former marine's remarkable journey from ptsd to prison and then redemption. this is kasie dc. i don't think anything can prepare you to hear those words from a doctor: stage 2 breast cancer. i have three little kids, my baby's seven years old - i can't have cancer. we really wanted a cancer team, that would care about not only my cancer but you know,
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self-medicate with alcohol and one night of drinking led to a six-year prison sentence for a home invasion. after the story was released, he was released from prison on a lesser sentence and now here's a follow-up story. after getting out of prison, he had a hard time finding a job. that at least until a chicago judge heard his story and inspired by his own late nephew who was a fallen marine, the judge reached out to help and on halloween, they got married at the chicago courthouse. the wedding officiated by the very judge and now, thanks to him, he has a union job as a carpenter and ashley, his girlfriend since childhood, who never left his side through any of those trials, is now his wife. this remarkable story is an inspiring read on this veterans
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and then something like north korea, what is it the president can do without any input from congress? i think people would be shocked to know what those things are. we have some members like senator markey, he's concerned about what a president can do about launching a nuclear weapon in 120 seconds. so all of these things will be discussed. >> one of the plot lines to watch very carefully this week. see it on mike barnicle's face. senator bob corker, who had questioned the president's fitness for this power will hold a hearing on tuesday looking into the process of just how a president can hit the big red
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button, as it were. it's the first time congress has looked into the president's nuclear authority in 40 years. joining me now on set here is jeffrey engel at southern methodist university and author of "when the world seemed new, george h.w. bush and the end of the cold war." the thing that stuck out to me the most, of course, is you learned and you talk at length about george h.w. bush's approach to our nuclear arsenal and what lessons do you think george h.w. bush would have for the president on that? >> the best lesson that he has is one that he's really unlikely to take. president bush's real success during this period of great tumult was not doing anything to be more obstructive and making
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sure you speak quietly in front of the camera even privately behind the scenes. even if president bush had had twitter, he wouldn't have used it. >> he wouldn't have called kim jong-un short and fat? >> he was not the insult candidate. >> forgive me for laughing. corker holding this meeting saying i want to see what it would take because of who suddenly has the keys. >> you know, this was actually an issue prior to the election. you might recall one of the more alarming ads that the clinton campaign ran was with someone who actually works in the process of launching a nuclear weapon and talked specifically about how little, how few steps you have to take. this is a relic of the cold war era where you wanted to be able to respond quickly and didn't have to go through these checks and balances. the question that senator markey has been asking on capitol hill is do we not really want to have any checks and balances?
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it's a difficult question to ponder because you have to, on the one hand, weigh having an impulsive president like we do now and on the other you have to game out a nuclear theory here. this was an issue prior to the election. you might recall one of the more alarming ads that the clinton campaign was with someone who works in the process of
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launching a nuclear weapon or worked and retired. he talked about how little -- how few steps you have to take. this is a relic of the cold war era. is ready and feeling liberated to talk about president trump and to talk about his various flaws as he sees them. i think the fact he's having this hearing goes to this idea that republicans have to be liberated before they have have conversations that a lot are having on background or off the record. the other thing is i want to see what republicans are going to go and start questioning this and then go back to their district and explain to the people who voted for donald trump that they voted to strip his powers away. that's where republicans will have their biggest problems. >> it's a good point that it's republicans bringing up this -- you mentioned the campaign ad that democrats ran. >> it was a very hard hitting one. i think you can't forget that donald trump seems to have this affinity and fascination for nuclear weapons.
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as our colleague morning joe know noted, he brought it up in the private talk where he was talking about just -- how many nuclear weapons we have and what it would mean to actually launch them. there's been reporting that he is wondering -- he never really -- you ruled out using a nuke, even in europe. that's a rhetorical device. he has a fascination. he also now has the tools at his disposal. we really do need to have a sober and ernest conversation about what is the process in place for a president to be able to say, you know what, we need to push that button. does it have to be defensive? does it have to go through congress? can it go through the cabinet? >> that seems to be a different perspective than what we heard from george h.w. bush in this new book. >> it's amazing. every president since eisenhower, when they come into office, have been giving a briefing explaining what nuclear weapons would do. it has a sobering affect on every president except this one. >> thanks for your time.
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the book is "when the world seemed new." when we come back, what to watch for in the week ahead. the state of michigan, in the weeks to come. my original home state. we will get the report from on the ground in tonight's states of play. we're back after this. ♪ it's time for the sleep number semi-annual sale on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort your sleep number setting.
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throughout tonight we have talked about what happened in virginia on tuesday. now democrats want to see if that wave could wash up on the shores of other states like michigan. in tonight's states of play, we report from what turned to be a pivotal place in 2016. >> reporter: across the country, democrats are looking for signs of resistance. mccomb county michigan is in the spotlight. home to thousands of autoworkers, union families and democrats who sealed donald trump's victory one year ago. could you see yourself voting for donald trump again? >> yes.
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absolutely. more republicans after that. it's going to take a while to turn this ship around. donald just got his hands on the wheel. >> reporter: in the wake of ed gillespie's loss, campaigns across the country are rethinking their posture to the president. >> one of the things about the campaign shows you is you can't fake the trump agenda. this is again da is a winning agenda. mccomb county has to lead the way. >> reporter: both sides are hungry for voters for chris. he vote obama but now he supports president trump. >> in large measure, the democrat party has abandoned its working class roots. president trump has reluctantly forced other republicans to pick up that mantra. >> reporter: now many expected trump agenda to propel them. >> i look forward to the president of the united states, donald trump, coming to michigan, campaigning for me, and we're going to talk about jobs and paychecks.
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>> reporter: that's a winning message? >> it still is. >> when we talk about the issues that affect the real lives of people, i think over time they're going to realize that this president is not really the answer. >> at this moment in time, absolutely vote for him. this time i would double up the number and campaign even harder. >> reporter: democrats have less than a year to persuade voters to come back to the party they once knew. final thoughts from our panel here. i am quickly going to say, i'm looking for tax reform. we're expecting a vote this week. are we here midnight thursday night as they're trying to get it finished? is it a breeze? my money is on a breeze. >> a breeze? >> closer to a breeze than not. >> it's your show.
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go ahead. >> i'm going to be watching for sexual harassment and seeing what comes of that and what stories come out this week. just what senators and congressmen plan on doing about this issue. >> obviously, alabama. i want to know if anything else comes up with roy moore's past. i'm fascinated what's happening online. there's a big battle under way between sean hannity and kurig. this could be the battle royale. no one could be drinking kurig. maybe i'm with -- >> kurig will win. >> the president's tour which didn't produce any breakthroughs was overwhelmed by the roy moore story. he will come back into that story. we will see how he handled it. >> it's a difficult line.
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that does it for our show tonight. we are apparently anti-kurig. join us from 7:00 to 9:00 and follow us on twitter. good night from washington. fol twitter @kcdc. good night from washington. a whirlwind weekend of diplomacy for president trump. he meant with rodrigo duterte and got a kick out of his counterpart shurting down the press. former intelligence officials are concerned the u.s. president is being manipulated. after trading more school yard insults with kim jong-un trump says expect a major announcement on north korea. good morning everyone. it's monday, november 1th. i'm eamon
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