invitation because this guy has the key to your career. if you don't go, you're not going to build a relationship with him when he interviews assad. it's a catch 22. >> amazing piece of reporting. thanks for being with me tonight. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. thank you. thanks for joining us this hour following a number of developing stories tonight, including news that the house ethics committee is launching an investigation into the longest serving member in congress of washington. 88-year-old john conyers about reporting about settlements paid to staffers in conyers' office. he denied he sexual harassed anyone. he said quote i expressly denied the allegations made against me and continue to do so. my office resolved the allegations with an express denial of liability to save all

involved from the riggers of protracted litigation. that should not be lost in the narrative. that was his statement this morning but this afternoon buzz feed published another allegation from another former staffer and now the house ethics committee says it will be investigating. congressman conyers is the top democrat. democratic leader nancy pelosi called to evaluate the allegations against john koconys and may have a decision whether he keeps that prime seat on that prime committee, judiciary while the accusations against him are investigated. so that happened today. meanwhile, in alabama today were serious allegations have been launched against republican candidate roy moore. his democratic opponent doug jones is now overtly trying to capitalize on roy moore's troubles in this race including a stepped up campaign schedule for jones.

jones put out this blunt new ad. >> on the disturbing actions, ivanka trump says there is a special place in hell for people that pray on children and i have no reason to doubt accounts. skbr jeff sessions says i have no reason to doubt them and he will absolutely not vote for roy moore. conservative voices putting children and women over party doing what is right. >> after that ad was released today and got lots and lots of national attention, president trump decided to speak about roy moore for the first time. the president's comments on the matter today were that roy moore denies the allegations against him and besides the president said quote we don't need a liberal person in there. >> i can tell you one thing for sure, we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat,

jones. >> which is the too afraid to say it way, to say i want you to vote for roy moore. those are the president's first remarks on roy moore since the allegations against him first surfaced two weeks ago. the president himself, of course, faced allegations during the campaign from 16 different women who say he groped, sexually harassed or sexual assaulted them. one of those cases by a former contestant on "the apprentice" led to a lawsuit in new york in which lawyers for the woman accusing trump demanded documents from the trump campaign, which they say would detail how the campaign discussed and reacted to the multiple women that made those allegations against mr. trump in realtime. this is a new report tonight in the wall street journal that witnesses interviewed by the pros cue t prosecutors have been asking extensive and detailed questions about jared kushner.

the president's son-in-law. muller's investigators have been trying to nail down details with other witnesses about jared kushner's involvement with foreign leaders during the transition, and what role jared kushner may or may not have played in the white house decision to fire the fbi director james comey. those lines of inquiry about jared kushner are separate and apart from multiple instances where kushner had reported contacts or communications with russian officials or actors during the campaign, during the transition and then he did not report those contacts publicly or on a security clearance application or even reportedly while he was under oath and being questioned about matters before congress. in light of this muller investigation and those congressional investigations, i mean, those repeated non-disclosed contacts would be difficult things for anybody to explain who had had any role on

the trump campaign. the fact that jared kushner wasn't just involved with the campaign, he's still employed at the white house and at a high level, it makes this detailed questioning about him a particularly risky endeavor for the white house and people that work -- excuse me, work alongside him now and speaking of which, we're still awaiting word about the current white house communications director hope hicks. hope hicks is set to be interviewed any day by muller's investigators and she may be testifying to the grand jury in the muller investigation and in a front row with the trump organization and campaign and in the trump white house where she remains a senior official. so it's expected that her testimony could potentially be a big deal depending how it goes. we await word on when that's going to happen if in fact it hasn't happened already. so we've got a bunch more on a bunch of those stories ahead

tonight. we got jenny here on the trump administration's decision to let internet companies control what you can and can't look at online. based tools and about the fight. the political fight. and with this decision all communications with the fight they have got on their hands. we got a senator raising an alarm about a career law enforcement and just been fired without explanation with the trump administration and in the flib flint crisis in michigan criminal charges have been brought against 15 current and former government officials. flint's water, you probably remember, flint's water didn't get poisoned by led.

degradation in the infrastructure, poor local planning by flint city government. no. flint's water got lead poisoned and kids in flint therefore got lint poisoned because of the state government in michigan. rick snyder is the republican governor in michigan. the lead poisoning happened after governor snider and the state declared there was a financial emergency in flint and because of that financial emergency, they declared they would install their own emergency manager who is appointed by the governor and who over rode local democracy, avoided local election results and elected officials one of those unilateral decisions made by the governor's appointees was to switch the water supplies in flint. they made that switch improperly.

they didn't in a way all the pipes and that's how flint got lead poisoned. that's how their water is poisoned and that's how the kids of flint got poisoned, as well. incidentally that's the reason why flint had a gigantic outbreak of something called legionnaires' disease and did does poisoning kids in the city. that part of the disaster and at least 12 people died from leg nears. the disaster in flint wasn't some slow moving inevitable break down where lots of things went wrong and this crisis was caused by a bad decision, bad state government decision. the state government took over the town and poisoned it with the flick of a switch. now, the head of the state government in michigan, rick snyder is still governor.

by the time people figured out what his administration had done in flint, he had been reerectle to the second term. they never got a chance to tell rick snyder what they thought of him after the flint ka pacatast became known. 15 current and former government officials have been criminally indicted for their role in the flint water crisis and some of them are low-level officials. and reaction to the leg nears' deaths is quote everyone has to die of something. he was charged this summer in a multiple felony count indictment. criminal charges were brought against two other members of his deputy, the state department of health. criminal charges were brought against at least five officials from the state department of environmental quality.

the state proos csecutors went to her to upgrade adding new felony counts of misconduct in office involuntary manslaughter. today that official was back in court for pretrial proceedings in the criminal case against her. and that's a -- that's a big deal for the people of flint, for the families of people who may have died because the flint water crisis and families whose kids were hurt by that process. the criminal proceedings are a big deal for flint and the individual. turns out they are a big deal for the snider administration and state government in michigan because this woman who was under a multi count felony indictment in the flint crisis, she is

still searching for the chief medical advocate. governor rick snyder kept her in that position after she was indicted. also, the everybody has to die of something guy who is running the state department of health, he kept him on, as well. after his felony. when it comes to this whom, chief medical executive, in court today, she's got a lot on her plate now when it comes to state government because governor rick snyder yesterday appointed her to run, to head up a public health advisory counsel. in between the court pertaining to the felony charges against her presumably. so that's how well your state government is working right now in michigan. you can play duck, duck goose at every cabinet meeting who is under felony indictment and who is not. the associated press profiled a

volunteer ef tofort that sprung in michigan after the election to try to fix part of governance in that state. around the country, there have been a ton of protests, a ton of new organizations founded lots of new organizing efforts of all kind since the 2016 election. but one very, very successful one has happened over the course of the past year in michigan. it's been way below the radar but certainly on a national level. but in michigan, it has been very successful and it has been influencing the political powers that be. it's a very simple campaign in michigan. they want districts in michigan to be drawn in a non-partisan way. congressional districts and legislative districts, non-partisan districts. the horror. the republican party bragged nationwide in 2012 about how well they rigged the districts in michigan for the republican party. this was from the republican

party's national self-assessment after their effort to use the census here in 2010 to change districts in their favor all over the country. michigan was one of the places where they felt like they did the best work. and in 2012 the republican party was actually super psychosiked way because that proved they guaranteed a way to win more seats in congress for republicans when republicans got fewer votes. in michigan in 2010 in congressional races in michigan, people in that state cast nearly a quarter million more votes for democratic candidates than for republican candidates. and the result of those votes where democrats got a quarter million more votes, the result is that republicans got nine seats and democrats got five. which shows their system worked very well. that was in 2012. the republicans were super

excited to brag about that. in the 2016 election last year it worked the same way in the state legislature. people in michigan in 2016 cast their votes for state legislature basically 50/50 between democrats and republicans and the result of the 50/50 vote is that republicans took 16 more seats in the legislature than the democrats did. which made the republicans very happy and showed how well they had done their work. when they rigged the districts to their own benefit after 2010, after the 2010 census and that same dynamic, that's the same reason why we still don't know tonight whose in charge in the state of virginia. two weeks after democrats just absolutely winning not just the governorship but running the table against republicans in the state legislature. out of the votes for the virginia virginia legislature, it's a stunning disparity. democrats beat republicans by

ten points in terms of votes cast for state legislature but tonight we don't know who will be in charge of that state legislature because apparently it takes democrats winning by at least ten points for them to have a shot at winning the majority of seats. that's because republicans were really, really aggressive and smart about using state legislatures to rig dig stricstn their favor in state elections, even when they don't win the most votes. they did it all over the country. and that's why republicans right now are freaking out about this wildly successful effort in broken, broken michigan to put a measure on the ballot so districts won't be drawn in a partisan way anymore and drawn at a fair competitive f non-partisan way and all group activists defied the odds by

collecting hundreds of thousands signatures for a initiative to overhaul redistricting in michigan without having to pay a dime for a signature. it's a rarity in state politics. voters, not politicians, a ballot committee wicongressiona districts is turning in 400,000 signatures by year's end, 350,000 signatures have been gathered thanks to a legion of 3,000 volunteers. a local republican strategist telling the ap a pep titition circulation was around interstate 96 in michigan. quote, wherever two or more are gathered, they have been there. their grass roots effort is remarkable. i don't know what you've been doing since the election but somebody set up a card table in

michigan to get signatures to make districts in the state not so partisan anymore and it's working what they are doing in michigan. they are blowing everybody away with the number of signatures they have been able to get in a very short period of time with no paid signature gatherers and that thing will be on the ballot next year and if it's on the ballot, it's going to pass. and again, i don't know what you've been doing since the election but in virginia, a whole bunch of people turned their lives upside down to do everything they could to try to bring about a democratic landslide in that state in this off year election in 2017 and in virginia, that worked as far as it goes but the districts are so partisan there, even that democratic landslide two weeks ago might not be enough to give the democrats control. it all goes back to the republicans using the occasion of the 2010 census to change the districts so much in their favor. they did it through something

called the red map progreject a no competition when they did. well, now the 2020 census is just around the corner and this time the democrats are very aware that it's coming. that's why the political effort president obama and eric holder are working on together after the obama administration, what they are working on is districts, how the districts will be drawn. they want democrats to make up what they lost when republicans ran the table and changed the districts in 2010. that's the same effort going on with the massive effort in michigan right now not to make the districts more democratic and competitive. that's going on with all the focus in dell cmocratic politic. you hear democrats and democratic parties fighting about this stuff talking about the need to win at state level to win state legislature seats, that's what that is about.

it's the fact that every state in the country is about to redraw the districts based on the results of the census right around the corner. today we learned who president trump wants to put in charge of the 2020 census. i did not make this up. it's the author of this book. see that title there is in large letters. you might have to look close to see the heading. he's the author of this book titled redistricting and representation colon, he has never worked in government before. he's never managed a large agency. he's never measured but he's the leading proponent of the theory that competitive elections are bad. literally he wrote that for his book and he has been a republican and representing

republicans most voncontroversi efforts to use the census to create intensely partisan districts including the north carolina effort they tried to get away with a few years ago struck down as too profoundly racist even for this evening goes era in this part of the politics. for perspective, the last person that held this job in the obama administration left the job to become the chief status for the united states government because this is a job you're expected to be a massive statistics brain. president trump's nominee for the job has no background in statistics at all. according to reporting in politi cdot come, he wanted to be director but the white house got shy when they realized that would have to be senate confirmed. instead the trump administration plan appears to be to nominate no one to be the census burro

director since that's a job that needs senate confirmation and install mr. competitive elections are bad for america as the number two in the agency as the deputy director which is the job where you hands on run the census and very importantly a job for which you do not need to be senate confirmed. trump says i pick you and you're in. we are a big, complicated country with big complicated politics. there are very few problems that trace back to a single cause. but making a partisan sledgehammer out of the census last time around, that really is one of those things ringing like a bell loudly across the country ever since. and that will be nothing compared to this if the trump administration is now going to turn the census officially into a tool designed to destroy competitive elections in

america. that would be such a radical move, it is almost hard to over state. watch this space.

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currently the top -- currently the top prosecutor, i tonight think they like to be called persecutors, the top prosecutor at the national security division in the justice department is this man, dana bente serving in that position running the national security division in an acting capacity since may of this year. dana is a career prosecutor.

he's w he's worn many hats in the justice department in the trump administration. the jobs he had vent recently l him in the on going russia investigation. he briefly searched as acting attorney general after the president fired sally yates. dana served for a time as acting deputy attorney general meaning he was the direct supervisor of james comey during the time that fbi director james comey says he was pressured by president trump to let go of the investigation into michael flynn. james comey testified that he reported those interactions with the president up the chain of command to his boss at the time. his boss at the time was dana boente and the time the fbi started its investigation into whether or not the firing of comey was an attempt to obstruct justice. that started before robert mueller was appointed as special counsel. dana boente may well be a

witness in at least that part of the muller investigation but dana boente's real job, the one he was appointed to was being the u.s. attorney in the eastern district of virginia, which is a really important federal jurisdiction as the top prosecutor in the eastern district of virginia among other things, dana over saw the issuing of grand jury subpoenas related to the paul manafort investigation. in that role in the eastern district he has been overseeing the continuous and on going investigation into wikileaks and their role in the russian operation targeting our election last year. i mean, there is a case to be made if anybody outside of special counsel muller's office knows what is going on from the beginning of the trump investigation it's probably dana boente given his role, acting ag, acting deputy ag, national security. so it was really something.

when last month on the same day we learned about the first criminal indictments from robert mueller last month dana boente would be quitting. dana boente would be announcing. those initial reports proved misleading because nbc reported he wasn't voluntarily stepping aside. he wasn't jumping. he was pushed. the trump administration demanded his resignation for some reason and as a surprise, dana boente did not seeing it coming days before the trump administration told him to resign, he was reportedly telling people how excited he was to continue his work as u.s. attorney in virginia. again, there is no explanation for why dana boente was pushed out at the national security division and eastern district of virginia as the first indictments were announced in the muller investigation and despite the fact the trump administration had previously told him he could keep his job.

there is one key senator trying to figure this out. i sent a letter to attorney general jeff sessions and the deputy attorney again real demanding an explanation for the abrupt termination of dana boente and the deadline the senator gave to get those answers was november 21st, which is, i'm not wearing a watch but i remember it's today. that senator is is pushing hard on this. i have a feeling he's ultimately going to figure it out and joins us live, next. us. it's what this country is made of. but right now, our bond is fraying. how do we get back to "us"? the y fills the gaps. and bridges our divides. donate to your local y today. because where there's a y, there's an us.

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the first indictments were coming down in the robert investigation. no explanation for why they wanted him gone. they previously told him he could stay. dana boente's abrupt dismissal raised concerns for one democratic senator, chris, sent a member and the the presidenty attorney general demanding an explanation for the abrupt termination of dana boente and gave a deadline of november 21st to provide the answers and tonight we can report, senator drafted another letter demanding information about quote the reason the president asked for resignation and opened a new front here asking the republican

chairman of the judiciary committee to hold a hearing to hold potential presidential interferen interference. the sudden nature of timing and proximity to the indictments issued to counsel muller and connections between the u.s. attorneys office for the eastern district of virginia and paul manafort and mike flynn leave me concerned that this resignation was not business as usual. quote, i cannot take on faith this dismissal was normal. joining us now is senator chris coons of delaware. thank you for being here. >> great to be on with you. thanks for drawing attention to this matter. >> i've been really interested because this felt like the seriousness of this firing. the surprise nature of the resignation is very much out of proportion to the amount of explanation for why he went.

one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you isment is sometimes senators push and you know what happened to the guy and. >> i got no questions, rachel. i don't have a firm answer why dana boente was pushed as i laid out to the letter i sent to the attorney general with a response so far as i laid out in my letter to the chairman of the senate judiciary committee. this fits within in broader troubling pattern of interference with u.s. attorney officers and while the president does have the right to ask for u.s. attorneys resignations, he can't do it for an improper purpose to interfere with an on going investigation and as you pointed out the run up to the segment, there is very troubling intersections between the on going investigation, the announcement and the case of a guilty plea and the timing of

dana boente's resignation. >> the role of prosecutors office in the eastern district of virginia, grand jury proceedings and we only know what is in the press. i don't want you to talk about anything we're not supposed to talk about. i've also wondered whether or not these questions about dana boente should be both about his role as the acting director of the national security division in the justice department and that key jurisdiction in the eastern district. again, that has been named quite a few time in the muller investigation. i don't know also whether it might over lap. is that part of why you're concerned? >> it is part of why i'm also concerned. the national soak kecurity divi has a role in law enforcement matters that relate to actions by adversaries of actions that

implicate intelligence committee and i think it would be easy to include why that might be specifically relevant to russian attempts at interference in the last election or any counter intelligence matters on going investigation. i also want to raise the matter that dana boente the eastern district is fourth in succession. if there would happen to be a set of circumstances where the attorney general was recused, the deputy attorney general was ordered by the president to do something ill propermproper. dana boente would be the third. those of us that know the watergate history and saturday night massa cure now it's possible at headquarters of the department of justice to do things they refuse to do. the first person in the line of succession outside of doj headquarters is the eastern district of virginia u.s.

attorney. >> wow, that's an ominous prospect. senator, one last question for you, i know the deputy attorney general and attorney general did not respond to your initial letter about this you gave them this deadline of today. do you have options in terms of compelling them to respond? do you anticipate trying to question them about this or being able to question mr. ben d -- mr. boente himself? >> it's my hope they will work in a bipartisan way. it's my expectation we'll have a chance to continue to seek the production of the documentation and witnesses. there are folks who should be appearing in front of the senate judiciary committee because of the incomplete or misleading previous answers. and it's my hope the senate judiciary chairman will agree these are folks that ought to be in front of us and getting to the bottom is an appropriate use of committee resources and protection of the independence of the department of justice. >> serious matters.

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called net neutrality and there were a million people who wrote letters to tell them to do something about it. they boxed up the letters and piled them into cars and dragged them to the headquarters to the fcc in washington asking to write up regulations to keep enter met companies from being able to decide which websites run fast and slow. basically, what you can see and what you can't. those file boxes full of letters were just the beginning of a full on grass roots assault on the fcc lobbying the obama administration to get tough to protect the neutrality of the internet, access to information on the internet. hundreds of people protested outside fcc headquarters day in and out. they camped outside fcc headquarters for weeks. venn actual eventually the head of the fcc came out. they mid a big paper tom

wheeler. when the fcc held public hearings, they stand up and say their peace and get dragged out one by one. glass roots fight to restore the neutrality of the internet, to restore net neutrality regulations took over every crevice of the country. it was a big, loud effort heated and sustained spined and venn actu -- eventually it worked. administration put in place rules that kept internet companies from giving treatment. all the information on the internet has to be treated equally regardless of what is on those websites. today the trumped a minute station wiped that away. the fcc today under new trump appoint appointed leadership announced they plan to do away with the existing rules that protect that

neutrality that follow that title wave of public outcry. now is the part i should tell you msnbc is owned by comcast which has an interest in this fight. they say they support net neutrality but would like to get rid of the regulations that currently guarantee it. before the trump administration's net neutrality proposal gets put in the books, the fcc has to put to a vote on the commission next month. that's expected to easily pass the commission because it's controlled by republicans. for the people who track this stuff and in the streets in 2014, none of this came as a surprise. they have been getting ready for this moment. protests started before today's announcement. the pressure is already on. there is some speculation today they might have announced this right before thanksgiving because they thought it would die away into the new cycle. i don't think they realize people are going to spend their thanksgiving break being

activists about this. we have seen this before. joining us now is jenny, the editor of bong, bong. thanks for joining us. >> pleasure, rachel. thanks for focussing on this issue. it really matters. >> it does. it's hard for people to grandson p -- grasp. you above everybody else in the world is better at putting issues like this in terms regular people can understand if they don't follow it. what is so important about this? >> what is important is that we, the people, have a right to communicate. we have a right to access information and to share information and the internet is an important part of all of our lives, even those of us who don't like to spend all day on facebook or twitter or playing mind craft or when have you. it's an important part of national discourse leading up to the elections like the one we had last year. it basically, what at steak with

net throuneutrality is this. the changes that are being proposed would give internet service providers like comcast or at&t or verizon would give the large companies the option to charge you more for faster service or to block certain kinds of content that might be not aligned with their business interest. so you can imagine for instance if you want to windchill a spat event and let's say espn is broadcasting a sporting event live and you happen to have an isp that doesn't have the sweet heart deal, maybe you miss the best plays or maybe bufferering and you're going to miss the experience or more importantly, in my opinion, think about -- so i'm here in nevada today and nevada and utah where i spend time and california and every state in the country, there are communities that are rural and

left behind the digital divide. we used to talk about that a lot. not everybody has affordable access to 21st century internet and i think there is great concern that this is going -- that this -- these changes and we don't know the fine print yet but this could make the infrastructure, so sorely needed around the country that could make that harder. i got to say the only people excited about this news announced by trump's, the only ones who are really happy about it are the isps. everybody from mazilla to the parent company of google to publishers like bong, bong. the blog i run with my friends for -- it's been around for a long time but independent publishers like us are very concerned. i mean, look, bottom line, do you want donald trump changing the internet right now?

[ laughter ] >> i mean, seriously. >> what do you make of the political prospects for stopping this? the reason i highlighted that is because even if it was sort of greek to some people that didn't necessarily understand what fast versus slow internet meant and the ability to protect the first amendment rights. there was a huge and very energized move themement to get what got done. what do you think about the prospects for stopping this now given the trump administration's position and the fact the organizing is recent american history we can learn from? >> we know whether we're talking about offline civil rights or the rights that each of us reinforce by being connected to each other and being connected to the country as a whole, these rights have to be continually reaffirmed and fought for. you don't just fight for things

once. so to all of you fellow nerds who are at home fixing mom or grandpa's computer or thinking about your wish list for the holiday, this is the time to talk to your families, to talk to people who maybe don't understand this very weird bland word net neutrality. what does that mean? well, this is a really good time to like hold teach-ins around the thanksgiving table with people. but most importantly, i think it's important to affirm that this is not a political -- this is not a bipartisan issue. this is -- let me say that more clearly. this is not a republican versus democrat issue. this is an issue of inclusion. so many of the challenges we're dealing with right now are. we didn't care about health care policy until they started mucking with our health care. we didn't really care much about changing taxes until everybody started getting really worried that that might be abruptly changing in a way that harms a lot of people.

it's time to start getting really worried about the internet and to inform yourself and to inform people around you. but when the only people in the room that are loudly cheering this are the largest isps in the country, and look, when they open this up right before the thanksgiving holiday and the vote is of course slated to happen in mid-december, i think you have to look at the timing of that and wonder if we aren't being invited into the conversation, we're going to need to start the conversation. because the internet is really important for america. it's really important that we keep -- that we include more of america in the conversation. >> xeni jardin, editor at boing boing. it's always great to you on the show. it's great to hear you on this, xeni, my friend. great toe see you. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. life happens.

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this is not normal, but it keeps happening. around 1:00 eastern time this morning, reuters published a tiny little blurb three sentences long, president trump would be talking on the phone to russian president putin some time today. boy, these guys get together a lot. wasn't it last week on his asia trip he met with putin three times? apparently they had more to talk about. that's one thing. trump and putin are getting together again. but this news about them getting

together, how we learned:00 this. reuters was the first english media outlet to have the news. but it wasn't reuters exclusive. it was third hand. they got what they got from something called interfax, which is a russian -- a russia-based news agency. and where interfax got this news was from the kremlin. so we learned about trump and putin having this next meeting, yet another meeting today. we learned about it from the kremlin. and it's not the first time the kremlin has scooped all american media and the white house with big news on the behavior of our own president. less than two weeks ago, it was putin staffer who informed all of america that his president would be meeting with our president on the sidelines of that asia trip, that asian economic summit in vietnam. and that wasn't the first time either. in may, president trump met with the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov and sergey kislyak, also known as that guy

who everybody in the trump campaign can't remember meeting. they met right in the white house. they met in the oval office. we found out about it because a russian state media outlet uploaded pictures of the meeting to the getty news service. and they were all credited to the russian foreign ministry. i mean, the white house does have an entire department with peoples whose salaries we pay that is devoted to communicating the president's whereabouts and his actions to the public. but when it involves russian government officials, the white house consistently is silent. and not just silent. they're ceding control of the narrative to the kremlin. the kremlin tells us what trump does with putin. we don't get it from our side. why does that keep happening? we'll be right back.

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who would like to read? ( ♪ ) molly: i reprogrammed the robots to do the inspection. it's running much faster now. see? it's amazing, molly. thank you. ( ♪ ) i'm late, sorry! that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." lawrence, i'm sorry i jumped into your first segment. >> oh, but only by seconds. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, my dear. >> you will be interested to know that politico is reporting tonight, reporting basically during your hour that the president has been saying to people at the white house and other republican officials that he doubts, he doubts the accusers who have come forward against roy moore. he is in the camp of why did they wait so long. and