the dog show and then giants/red skins. that's the broadcast for tonight. thank you for being with us. good night from our head quarters in new york and happy thanksgiving. it is 7:00 here on the east coast. happy thanksgiving. this morning accusations of sexual misconduct continue to rock our nation's capital. the attorney for john conniers says he is not resigning even as we hear from one of his accus s accusers. as the president sends his po holiday in florida, leaders are trying to avoid a legislative shutdown. is it too little too late? >> and the frantic search for three missing service members after their transport crashed

off the coast of japan. after 24 hours, when will rescue become recovery. let's start with president trump beginning his holiday at his home away from home in mar-a-lago. kel l kelly o'donnell has the plans of the president today and the hurdles facing the administration. >> reporter: good morning and happy thanksgiving. president trump begins his day using twitter, no surprise there, sending a message to the country with a simple wish of thanksgiving and his tag line of make america great again. his schedule today is expectedly very low key. he does have one message to the troops which will be delivered from mar-a-lago via teleconference. he'll send good wishes to the men and women in uniform. we can presume he and the first family will be ebb jnjoying a thanksgiving meal with friends

and loved ones around the table. on his way to palm beach for his extended holiday, what the white house calls a working vacation, president trump stirred the pot with side dishes related to the alabama senate race where he all but endorsed roy moore, who was accused of improper advances toward women including some very young teenage girls decades ago. the candidate denies all the allegations but with just a couple of weeks until the election, president trump made a pitch that a democratic candidate would not be a good choice for his agenda, and so while he did not say that roy moore is the person that alabama people should vote for, he certainly made a hard pitch, as he put it, a liberal democrat should not be put in office. for the president, a few days of down time in one of his favorite places, his mar-a-lago home.

let's get more on the latest on the senate race in alabama. roy moore is now relying on six campaign staffers to make a 20-day stretch run in the face of growing controversy amplified once again by another gripping add from the doug jones campaign. >> beverly young nelson, debbie gibson, gloria that canner deesen, gina richards, wendy miller, kelly harrison, and the list is growing. they were girls when roy moore pursued them. now they're women, witnesses to us all of his disturbing conduct. will we make their abuser a u.s. senator? >> we have vaughn with us. the roy moore campaign got a bit of a boost they thought from the comments of president trump on the south lawn, but now he's lost his communications director. they're had a critical time in

the campaign. get us up to date. >> reporter: yeah. good morning, chris. i should note first of all if anybody is watching tv here in alabama on thanksgiving, they'll be seeing doug jones adds. that's including ourselves. he's outspending by 11 to 1 over roy moore. we're just 19 days out. roy moore lost his communications director yesterday. we're just three weeks out from the race. they're down to six staffers. four of those being alabama people. two of the others are florida operatives. it's a campaign running lean. of course, they tell us that that's exactly how they won the runoff too back against republican sitting republican senator luther strange when 30 million was spent against his campaign. they are looking at donald trump's comments as being essentially an endorsement and a backing. and if you're looking at the republicans that we've been talking to on the ground over

the last several days, there's a pot of republicans hesitant to vote for roy moore, but it's a question of how many are either going to, one, not vote at all, but really, number two, how many are going to go and vote for doug jones? if they don't switch their vote to the democrat, it's half as effective as their vote could potentially be for doug joebs who has significant ground to make up. note roy moore has not been on the campaign trail now. this is day eight in which he has not been on the campaign trail. he will not be seen until monday. doug jones, on the other hand, has been out doing different campaign events. we were in huntsville with him two days ago. he was at a women and children's shelter yesterday in birmingham. we expect to see him as well this weekend. roy moore, where is he this weekend? he's spending it with his family. and really, it's coming down to the fact that this is a campaign

that we don't know how it's going to turn out, chris. just 19 days out. >> this is crazy. vaughn, thank you. we'll talk to you later this morning. i'm going to break down the latest on roy moore, president trump, and serious allegations facing democratic lawmakers with our panel. joe watkins, howard dean, and lynn sweet. lynn, i want to start with you. there's a new poll that shows 60% of voters across the country want the u.s. senate to expel roy moore if he's elected. of course, national views of this candidate don't have anything to do with an election and what people are thinking and saying in alabama. give us your assessment of where you see the race right now? >> my assessment is the senate action and the threat to expel roy moore probably isn't going to impact the vote for or against roy moore, because

people are partisan and polarized. people want to -- you have a hard core republican who is going to maybe look at it the way president trump did, and that is a republican is going to vote for my agenda, is better, flawed as he is, than a democrat. by assessment, if there are persuadables out there, and if there are still people left in alabama, the polls show it isn't that close, my assessment is that the persuadables, if there are enough of them, may still be looking for, i don't know what, because there's a lot on the table. >> there's a lot on the table, joe. over the last couple of weeks, there was a sort of feeling of a small but steady momentum swinging toward doug jones, but president trump's comments at the white house, at least the roy moore campaign hopes could maybe help stop the bleeding. what do you think is going on on the ground, and do you think the

trump coalition hold for roy moore? >> reporter: that's a good question. i think doug jones has great momentum. he's moving steadily up in the polls every day. i think -- >> do you believe the polls? >> i believe the polls. the only problem is that we just don't know who's going to show up to vote on election day. turnout really matters. what we don't know is whether or not republican voter who is are repulsed by what roy moore has done will just stay home as opposed to voting for doug jones. that's the big question right now. we don't know how many republicans will show up and vote for roy moore or how many will come out and say i'm fed up with this, i'm going to vote for doug. it's hard to say. the polls are showing a lot of alabamians are disgusted with the behavior that's come to light about roy moore and are not happy about it. >> you know, though, i have been watching what we call mos, man on the street. reporters going out and talking to voters.

vivid in my mind is this married couple and the woman clearly there's nothing in the world that could make her vote for roy moore. her husband very uncomfortably talking about the fact that he's a lifelong conservative, so he doesn't see an alternative to roy moore. we just heard vaughn saying, howard, that doug jones is outspending moore 11 to 1. money isn't necessarily everything. what do you think is going on here? >> i think it's a very tough one. this is a turning point for alabama. normally speaking to people in alabama are not going to put a child molester in the united states senate under any circumstances. >> accused child molester. >> right. accused child molester. and doug jones, however, is not -- is a pretty good candidate for the democrats. he's from alabama. his parents were blue collar workers in alabama. he's had a long and very respectable legal career in alabama including indicting two of the klansmen who blew up a

church in birmingham in 1963 and killed little girls. what i think is going to happen is exactly what joe said. some of the republicans who are more thoughtful are going to stay home, and i am hoping that this is going to energize the democratic base because we have a shot. it's going to be close. i do think we can win, but it's going to be close. >> howard, i want to ask you about john conniers. he's a vital member in the house democratic caucus. he's now fighting allegations of sexual misconduct. there's an investigation underway. calls from colleagues like congressman kathleen rice for conniers to step down. talk a little bit about the kind of internal pressure he's facing and democrats, frankly, are facing, because i think no matter what your party, it never looks good if you call for a member of the other party to step down, but you don't say anything about accusations against somebody who is in your own party. >> this is one thing about nancy

pelosi. there's a lot of talk about she should move along. she does this really well, this stuff. when anthony weiner got himself in trouble, she basically -- there was an ethics committee investigation. he was gone. you do have to have the investigation, but i think you're going to lose some democrats as a result. this is a culture, and by the way, i don't think the vast majority of congress people are engaged in this kind of stuff, but there are a significant number that are, and this business about blind settlements to victims of this stuff that never get disclosed is disgraceful, and i think pelosi is on stop of it. she doesn't have any influence on the republicans. >> lynn, the conniers' allegations, of course, follow the allegations against al franken. in both cases would you agree, hurting the message democrats would like to be sending to democrats right now? >> right. this is where we should look and see if the ethics committees on

both sides of the capital are toothless tigers. the senate, i think in either 2016 or 2015, i had 63 investigations and there were never sanctions against anyone. the house ethics committee sometimes takes years. let's see if either of the panels expedite the probes so there can be resolution. >> do you think it has to do with the fact that it's majority male still in both houses of congress? do you think it's just a long tradition of protecting their own? what's going on here? because, i mean, a lot of people talk about the rules in congress being ar cayic. i say it's more than that. it's protecting predators. >> well, i think it's protecting members. i mean, these ethics committees, unlike other committees, are half and half. you don't have a majority to control it as you do in these other committees. chris, i think whether it's for behavior dealing with money or in this case sexual harassment,

congress does not subject itself to the same laws that other people do. you could see a mouse trap in a restaurant in the capital which you couldn't tolerate in a restaurant in almost any other city. so they do not have the sensibility to impose upon themselves the rules that they impose on others. now we see this coming to a head, especially in the area of sexual harassment where there hasn't been mechanisms in place to if not prevent it, at least let people feel comfortable reporting it and resolving the issue. >> we have spoken to the first accuser of conniers on the record. i want to play a little bit of that for you. >> i think it was recognized that he was a problem, that mr. conniers' behavior was often problematic. there were lots of stories answer him on the hill then and more recently, and so it's not as if anybody didn't believe

these things were happening. it's just there was no way for anybody to do anything about it. each member of congress is really their own fiefdom, and there are no rules about how they treat staff. >> and you add to that, joe, the stunning story about another house member, joe barton, texas republican, who was in contact with the capital police after explicit photos and text messages that he shared with a woman he says he was in a relationship with ended up on the internet. i mean, talk about where you think this is going in congress, and what's the mood, frankly, among lawmakers and staffs? i mean, people have to be wondering where's the next shoe going to drop? >> absolutely. i think at least it sends a message to members of congress both on the house side and the senate side that this isn't going to be tolerated. this kind of behavior is not acceptable. >> duke so really? >> i think so. when you see some of the well known names in congress take the

hits, i think it sends a message to every member this is not tolerated anybody, there's a new standard, and right is right and wrong is wrong. it doesn't matter your party. if you abuse somebody, if you sexually abuse another person, abuse a woman, you have to be prepared to pay for that. so i think al franken's response was the right response by apologizing and saying he thought to be investigating and submitting himself to an investigation. this is a hard one for john conniers who has a great civil rights record and has been for congress for years and years. nonetheless, you have to take the accusations seriously, and it's important women are heard and respected and that members of congress are properly disciplined. >> joe, howard, lynn, thank you to all of you and happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving, chris. >> meantime, a once renowned doctor for team usa gymnastics accused of molestic more than 100 former patients including

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after months of silence a a claimed team usa doctor pled guilty in court to molestic dozens of young girls and teenagers. he used his position to prey on underage women. it was one day after gabby douglas added her name to her list of victims. nbc stephanie gosk with more on this story. >> ten it's a gabby gold. >> she adds her name to a list more than 100 long. accusing the former doctor of molestic her. >> how do you plead?

>> guilty. >> shackled and looking weary, he had a plea deal that means he'll go straight to prison. >> i pray for forgiveness for their -- i want them to heal. >> the judge said he can expect to spend the rest of his life behind bars. >> you used that position of trust that you had in the most vile way to abuse children. >> reporter: one of his most high profile patients, douglas writes in part, i didn't publicly share my experiences as well as many other things because for years we were conditioned to stay silent. and honestly, some things were extremely painful. she's the latest decorated olympic gymnast to accuse him. >> i think he's a monster, and i think it is so disturbing to me what he did to me and so many other people. this is so much bigger than just me. >> reporter: douglas weighed in on him for the first time last week. she posted online about the

subject of abuse. however, it is our responsibility as women to dress modestly and be classy. the comment drew quick criticism. on tuesday douglas said she was abused and that, quote, i know no matter what you wear, it never gives anyone the right to harass or abuse you. among the accusers in michigan, there is relief. >> i'm grateful fortuna the arm women that stopped a pedophile. that was stephanie gosk reporting. the frantic search is widening for the three missing service member after their u.s. navy plane crashed off the coast of japan. it's the latest in a series of deadly incidents for the fleet this year. plus new details about the man in this incredible video. a north korean soldier making a bold escape, racing across the

border to south korea and freedom as his former comrades open fire on him. stay with us.

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occasionally we lose a c-2 greyhound, but in some instances, like this, there's a happy ending. it's rare to have survivors. >> still three missing. does it say anything to our allies about our readiness? >> it shows there is a software problem, not necessarily a hardware problem, and what that means for our allies is what can they rely on when it comes to the united states' preparation and training. there are exercises in asia and africa and in the middle east, and we have to ask the question as well. how much do we want to engage in our allies were support? currently our policy seems to be much more focussed on american unilateral action, much less reliance on diplomatic partners for military engagements, and there's a cost. i think what we're watching right now is the overall wearing down of our military and sort of

a degrading slowly of the system. and it does have impacts on the decision making process. >> i want to ask about the north korean soldier who risked his life making the mad dash against the dmz. the video looked like something out of a cold war movie. north korean soldiers are running after him. they open fire. they shot him at least five times and then you saw the south koreans who crawled in. there you see them in that circle and brought him to safety. but by shooting across the dmz, north korea, violated terms of a 53 ar mistis. could this have turned out much, much worse? >> it could have been if there was a fire fight across the boarder. north korea does provocative incidents there. 20 years ago they murdered a u.s. soldier while there was a

tree cutting detail on the border. it could have been much worse. i think this was relatively restrained. north korea does shoot at defectors. they got him out alive. that's a good thing. with the tensions in the united states and north korea today, it's what kim jong-un is thinking right now about doing that's more provocative like having another atomic bomb test. these are the things that really -- >> well, it has been two months since they tested the missile. so holidays are often a time when we see those kinds of provocations. are you concerned about this holiday season? >> i'm not concerned about the holiday season so much as their schedule of provoking donald trump. as you understand that when north korea tested its last bomb, it was a hydrogen bomb. it was ten times as large as anything that exploded before. and their missile launch schedule generally tends to be

within a window where president trump says something or they expect to get a result from him. whenever that happens, it's generally at the highest levels that these sort of trolling guys on. >> i just came back from the asia trip with the president, and having gone to all five countries with him and talking to a lot of people. i don't need to tell you the level of concern about the rhetoric between president trump and kim jong-un. how much does that increase the pressure on americans and all of our allies who are serving there and how much concern is there that this will be a provocative situation or are we overstating that? >> we're not overstating it. i think there's deep concern and the lack of certainty about the next steps, what the american policy is that the lack of coherence about whether it's diplomacy one day or military rhetoric is next is destabilizing. we see this playing out on capitol hill. just a week or so ago, there was a senate hearing about the

president's authority to use nuclear weapons. essentially, provoked by the uncertainty of what the president will do on north korea. so it's a very destabilizing time. and when you have that minor incidents like malcolm pointed out in north korea can become fig big flairups. we have to be very careful while we're watching this uncertainty to ensure that nothing destabilizing that really blows up the situation that takes place. >> what we have seen is the president making the decision to designate a state sponsor of terrorism. do you think it will increase pressure on the north? >> well, i think the pressure has been pretty good on north korea over the last certainly 64 years. but this is one thing where the president may -- is making a proper decision. the north korea has been a state sponsor of terrorism. they've done far more series things than assassinate the brother of kim jong-un. they have blown up aircraft

coming out of allied nations. they tried to assassinate the entire parliament of south korea in berma. they sink ships and land secret agents in south korea all the time natu time. that designate may have an effect, but russia is one of the biggest supporters. that's how they got the missile boosters that fired off the icbms, and their biggest trading partner is china. it remains to see if it will be the effect he wants or if this is a step toward confrontation he feels he needs to take. >> and president trump spoke on the phone this week with vladimir putin. i want to play for you what the president said just before he left for mar-a-lago. >> we had a great call with president putin. we're talking about peace in syria. very important. we're talking about north korea. we had a call that lasted almost

an hour and a half. we just put out a release on the call, but we're talking very strongly about bringing peace to syria. we're talking very strongly about north korea and ukraine. >> and in fact, that phone call came the day after putin already had a meeting or met with president asaad in syria. what's russia's roll in this right now? >> it's a bit of a humiliating situation for the united states. russia is in firm control of the process on syria. >> they're taking the lead. >> they're taking the lead. russia and the u.s., we jointly control the air, but russia essentially has control of the process. iran is on the ground as well. they're an ally of russia. right now, all roads lead to moscow and whether or not there will be a political settlement in syria. there has to be one. russia owns this problem, but there is no military way out. >> is that how you see it, malcolm? >> that's absolutely correct. russia is in firm control because what we're seeing is a

deplete abdication of the united states' responsibility because we have been involved in syria since 2011 but also for our leadership in that region. this will give iran a solid arc of they call it the shia crescent going from lebanon to iran, and operating in cooperation with are tthe regim. any majority population that rebelled will have a future is over. thanksgiving to you both. malcolm, who's cooking in your house? >> i'm going to have a turkey sandwich down at the square. >> that doesn't sound so bad. thanks, guys. appreciate it. happy thanksgiving. steve bannon has a new strategy, and he's turning his attention to the house.

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to the white house to talk about the remaining items on congress's agenda.

among them, passing tax reform. raising the debt ceiling, funding the government, and fixing the daca program. on this thanksgiving morning, the president is, himself, patting himself on the back saying jobs are coming back. joining me now to discuss this and more, grace roth who is the political reporter for new york one. jarod bernstein. jarod, happy thanksgiving, and before we go down on taxes, i want to talk big picture. as a policy adviser, somebody who understands how these things work, is there any way all this stuff gets done? >> probably not. by the way, i saw it on your list but just to highlight it. half of puerto rico is without power on this thanksgiving day. and so this is a remarkable failure of government to help fellow americans. some of the stuff has to get done in terms of keeping the government open. others need to get done but may

not. obviously the focus on taxes is paramount, and that's not a done deal either. so this is a congress that is pretty dysfunctional with a to do list that is incredibly challenging. >> let's talk taxes. members of the new york d delegation are not happy with the tax bill because it would eliminate state and local tax deductions, and it looks like that is what could be in any final bill. so how are local officials reacting to this, preparing for this? >> well, they have not responded kindly to this plan, and five of the state's nine republican members of the house voted against it. so even in new york city in president trump's hometown, you had the only republican congressman from staten island rejecting this saying out on long island, rejecting it. just this week, we had mayor de

blasio, on a different end of the political spectrum from the president out in front of trump tower railing on the tax plan. schumer is going to be trying to impress upon this president as much as possible the effect this is going to have in new york, in his home state, but in other states, and some of these members of congress who represent these districts, yes, new york is a blue state. statewide, but there are districts that could be vulnerable that are held by republicans, and if this tax bill goes through with those deductions eliminated, there could be political consequences. >> won't be mess with the deductions, and by most estimates it hurts low income people and helps high income earners. do you see any of the fundamental math changing here? >> i don't. i think your point needs to be underscored. something like 80 million taxpayers ultimately get an increase under this plan, and

their income, as you suggested, is below about 75,000. basically if you're someone who makes your income through profits, through multinational corporations versus someone who earns a paycheck, this plan is going to be very tough for you. it is the point you made is well taken. i read this morning that about a third of oregon people could face a tax increase of $500 just based on the state and local tax exemption alone. i think the key point here is this is a bill that is constructed to reward those in the upper reaches of the income distribution who depend on their stock and bond portfolios, not their paychecks which is precisely the opposite of donald trump's working class message. so his faux populism is dramatically underscored by this tax plan. >> it seems to be the opposite of most conservatives' message

which is to bring the debt down. 37 out of 38 economists to talked to the washington post said the republican tax plan would grow the debt and the 38th person misread the question. how do conservatives and deficit hawks defend this? >> i'm glad you put it that way. there is a difference between a deficit hawk and a deficit chicken hawk or turkey hawk given the seasonal factor today. these folks are not truly deficit hawks. just like trump is a faux populist, they're faux hawks. they want to use it to oppose ideas barack obama put forth, but thaey don't really care abot the debt or they could be backing away from this tax plan. instead, they're throwing that stuff under the table. >> one of the things president

trump likes to pride himself on, grace, is being a new yorker. he has spent a lot of his time and money and real estate efforts in new york. and yet, i guess the question for a lot of people now is what's his role in this? what are we going to see from him? we see mayor de blasio standing in front of trump tower making the case against the tax bill. is the president a person who can win over some of those republicans? >> it's going to be hard with the deductions go away. the math is clear in terms of the impact it's going to have on middle class americans in wealthier areas. you know, the way we define middle class is not the same across the country. what makes somebody a middle class american in the midwest is very different than someone who lives in new york city or on long island. >> a small two bedroom is 2 million. >> right. when you take away the deduct n deductio deductions, it has a serious

impact, and you have warnings this could drive people out of the city, including potential customers of the trump organization. you're starting to hear that pushback from people on the left who are warning this could hurt the trump family's bottom line if something like this goes through. >> your former boss, joe biden, talked a lot about, and i think spoke to in many ways, very clearly, the american middle class, the struggling folks in places like where i'm from which is cleveland, pennsylvania, the middle of america that lost the industrial jobs that they had for so long, and there was a poll earlier this month. 16% of folks believed the republican plan will reduce their taxes. 35% say it will raise their taxes. 36% say it will not have much impact. how do you see the political messaging here? how do the republicans defend this but maybe more to your side

of the aisle? how do the democrats make their case plausibly? >> it's a very tough question, because -- >> most of us don't understand these numbers. it's very complicated. we're not economists. >> i don't think it's that complicated. this is a tax plan that shifts hundreds of billions of dollars to the wealthy at the cost of 1.5 trillion to the deficit. if this were running purely on politics, this plan would be dead. the more people learn, the less they like it. the approval rating is something between 25% and 30 %. nobody likes the distribution impacts or the debt impacts. this is running purely on two factors, republicans want to please their donor base, their wealthy donor base, and they want to score a win who matter how they get there. i'm afraid the usual political pressures don't hold. this is an extremely nonrepresentative republican congress, and they're working to pass an extremely nonrepresentative tax plan.

>> we're out of time, but i can't let you go, jarod. if you were a betting man, is your old boss running for president in 2020? >> i get that question a lot. i don't know. it's a personal decision. i'd call it a coin flip. >> coin flip? you're not ruling it out? thank you, jarod. thank you, grace. happy turkey day. an extra helping but turkey, but skip the politics. how to make sure your meal with relatives of different political persuasions doesn't end in disaster. your thanksgiving survival gried is co -- guide is coming up next. but there is another way to live. ♪ a way that sees the only path to fulfillment- is through others. ♪

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when most americans gather with their families for dinner today, they're looking forward to passing the turkey and taking a pass on talking politics. according to a new poll, 58% of people celebrating the holiday dread any discussion about washington or the white house. only 31% say they're eager to talk politics with their family and friends. so how do you keep a polarizing topic from destroying your holiday dinner? let's ask dr. lisa palmer, a psychotherapist with the renew center of florida. good to see you. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you. it is a beautiful season, but it can definitely be a very stressful season, and we have to be prepared for that at the supper table, otherwise we can really stir the pot, right? we want to make sure we set boundaries, take a breather and

shift conversation to topics that are more -- less stressful. >> just don't talk about it? >> i do believe it's pofrpt to share our opinion, right, and to express ourselves, but we have to do it in a respectful way. and that means to listen to understand instead of listen to reply. >> it's so emotional for so many people though. i don't know how realistic that is. we all probably go into it saying, you know, you're saying to your husband or wife, let's calm it down, and then you sit down and somebody says something and all bets are off, right? >> it's so true. when we're stressed out, definitely those emotions run high and we want to react, but we can't. we have to remember this is a time of gratitude and of peace and we have to restrain ourselves and just not try to defend, not try to change another person's opinion, but just to relooks and enjoy the

holiday and listen to understand, again, instead of listen to respond. >> this says something though, 58% of people are dreading this. that's higher than last year when it was 53%. do you think our ability -- maybe it's exhaustion or something. do you think our ability to do exactly what you're saying we should do which is tolerate the opposing opinion or set our emotions aside even for a day just for the sake of family peace, that we're less able to do it just because we're a year in, into what is for a lot of people one of the more difficult times of their lives? >> absolutely. politics is so polarizing. it was before and it is now. even more so now with all the tragedies taking place. we really do have to put that aside and not let our emotions get the best of us. maybe try to do some meditation or something before your meal with your family members.

>> i can just see it in people's living rooms. let's all take a break. there's another side of this maybe, maybe. there's other stuff that's in the conversation. sexual harassment, for example, and abuse. these are important topics. so i wonder if, and not that that's something you want to talk about at the family dinner table necessarily. if you're having these conversations, is there possibly a positive side to it that we are talking about things that need to be talked about? >> well, no doubt these conversations about sexual harassment are going to come up at the dinner table. i think there's a positive to that, because i think we can all agree it's a bad thing and shouldn't be happening. so maybe that is a conversation we can actually shift to and agree on. >> exactly. what's interesting this morning. our teammates and i was actually kind of surprised at the number of people who had in their own families situations where

somebody is not coming to thanksgiving dinner because they know somebody is of a different political persuasion or people who are not speaking to each other. are these going to be long-term rifts, or is this something that time will heal? >> people are always going to be afraid of attacks. we tend to go into that fight-or-flight response. we definitely have to try to become more comfortable with people disagreeing with us, too and be comfortable within our own selves and our own opinions about these things. it's so important to the health and vitality of our nation that we can share differences of opinion and do so with respect and confidence within ourselves no matter what our political opinions are. >> i'm a total coward. so i just say, i talk about this all week long. i don't need to talk about it in my off hours. and people actually are very sympathetic to that. >> it's operate to separate.

>> for the rest of the people out there that will have a tough time at the dinner table, keep your mouthful of stuffing and maybe move on. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. disturbing new details about the murder of baltimore homicide detectives shot to death with his own gun after a struggle with his killer. that detective was set to testify before a grand jury the day after he was killed. that story coming up. the bannon effect. we'll tell you what steve bannon is up to and the potential impact it could have on next year's midterm elections.

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