want to thank shannon and dana and jason. that's hardball for now. thank you for being with us. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> good morning. >> wow. that was a great thanksgiving. >> it's friday, november 24th. hope everyone had a great thanksgiving. happy turkey day. >> willie, how was your thanksgiving? >> the food, the game. there was a fistfight at my dinner table. it was incredible. >> katty? >> a lot of turkey. i'm still waiting for it. >> elastic band pants. >> all right. okay, tight pants.

katty kay is with us, lee gallagher and tim carny. good to have you all on board on this day after thanksgiving. i'm stuffed. as the thanksgiving holiday comes and goes, there's little time left in the year for republicans to pass critical parts of their agenda, and there is a lot on the list. the big one? pass tax reform. also hanging in the balance, the debt ceiling and the budget. there's also immigration, and the dire situation in puerto rico where the island is still in desperate need of aid. what exactly has this president gotten done? >> nothing. so that's one reason why if you're a republican and you've got -- for you not going back to your voters, they're focussed, their donors are saying we're out. if you guys can't get anything done, it's the only reason we've put up with donald trump. doesn't that make it a lot more

possible for them to pass a tax reform package? they have no choice. they have to pass something. >> you're right. in washington there's these people really do answer to the voters, but day today the people they're seeing are not the donors. it's the donor class, the former chief of staff for the national association of home builders or something like that. and those people are applying more pressure. that's why i think tax reform has a better chance than the wall funding. the wall funding and the building the wall is the biggest thing to sort of -- >> what wall? what are you talking about? >> it's the biggest thing to trump's base. the wall is the biggest thing, but congress is going to be more responsive to the interests of the donor class. that's why tax reform has a good shot. i would say we wrote in an editorial, i think these guys are toast. i think donald trump first year, first term, midterm, republicans are gone. they're going to lose a

majority. republicans should do what's right. it's a once in a lifetime think. the plane is going down. you may as well do what you know is right and for once stop worrying an getting reelected. if you're going to keep your seat, you're not keeping the republicans. do the right -- your seat. do the right thing. >> i've been to a couple of events hawhere these huge republican donors, i say how can you support him? >> tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts. they are not getting this pressure from their constituents because this bill doesn't really help the mass, the trump voters. it helps their donors. that's what this, at the end of the day, cynically, has to come down for. >> that goes for almost every northeast republican i knew going into this election in 2016. they didn't like his personal stuff or the way he walked about

women, but they thought for business he was going to be good. he was theoretically one of them. he understood what they did at least and was going to take care of them with the tax cuts. if this doesn't get through, if you do the year retrospective on the first year, what can he point to? gorsuch, and he will have the -- it was important another reason a lot of republicans voted for him, but what else? the promise of the repeal and replace of obamacare did not happen. the promise of tax cuts, perhaps, will not happen. we'll see. there's not a lot to point to except the economy is going well. i think he'll lean on that. >> won't we talk about regulatory reform and reversing a lot of barack obama's regulation? >> we are deregulatory except for when it comes to time warner and cnn. to willie's point, the stakes are so high because of health care and because of the things you mentioned, and we'll just have to see. there was a sort of hold my nose and because of tax reform and i

would argue also because of ju initial appointme dishl appointments -- judicial appointments. if nothing gets done -- >> let me go to katty and ask let's say they get it done. what exactly are they getting done? this is the thing that i think has been sort of trump kind of makes up these grand -- i mean, i think he even called it cut, k cut, cut. a ridiculous name. ivanka has been pushing a piece of legislation like it's really hard to get people to get their arms around extended credit for child care. these are kind of like fake victories if they even happen and the best turn out will be for the rich. >> it's tax cuts, let's not call it tax reform. there's not much reform. it's a tax cut for people in the wealthier bracket and particularly for american

corporations, not. it lasts until 2025. the damage is if you go ahead with this, it could be enormous. if you look at the approval ratin ratings, when i traveled on the campaign trail, taxes were not something people raised. they raised immigration and china and tariffs. they wanted action on those things. there's been nothing. when you have a 51% disapproval rating for a bill, that's high. >> i want to defend the bill. here's the thing. one of the most maligned parts of this is one of the more important parts which is the corporate tax cut. we have the highest corporate income tax rate of any country with a developed economy. and what this does is it not only creates an incentive for companies to set up overseas. it makes all the exemptions and loopholes means that bids are making decisions based not on

this is where the demand is or this is going to be a good investment, but this has the best tax treatment. it's inefficient. lowering and simplifying the tax code helps the economy. >> assuming they reinvest. >> to say it's a tax cut on corporations is misleading. corporate taxes is paid by a combination of consumers, employees, and shareholders. those people are getting a tax cut, yes, but it's split among all three and a lower rate means de less distortions. >> i mean, there are so many loopholes already that most corporations pay more around the 19% that's almost equivalent with the other countries. >> that's not in defense of the high rate. >> of course. there's a lot of talk about how this will spur companies to higher. we would hire more if we paid less taxes. i don't think having enough

money, we're at record profits. that's not why companies aren't hiring. the companies have gotten productive and efficient. there was a wall street journal conference last week where gary cohn said who would hire more if you have the tax breaks. few ceos raised their hands. that's telling. >> that's an overly simplistic defense. give them a tax cut, they're hire more. but lower rate means fewer people are doing things to get their rates low. fewer loopholes means they're investing where demand is. forget about tax cut, hire people. lower simpler rate means more efficient economy. >> are you concerned about what it does to the debt? 1.5 to 2 at any time 2 2 .2 trillion. >> i've been consistent about never caring much about that. >> we're on a different side of

conservatism. >> republici'm a conservative g hasn't actually cared that much about the debt. i think having a strong economy, a fair tax code and all that stuff is important. ronald reagan said the debt will take care of it. we're the wealthiest country in the world. nothing has ever existed like the united states and our wealth. within limits, i don't get that worried about it. >> but we're going to run up 100% of our gdp. you have 40, $60 trillion of unpaid entitlements over the next 60 years. >> what's going to happen? you sound worried, but it's not like a family debt. we're the united states. we just print more money. >> oh, my goodness. >> you don't just print more money. >> that's so interesting. >> i'm fairly agnostic on this. i'm making a devil's advocate argument.

>> so long as -- and his wife, they print it. more money. >> all right. tim, thank you so much. i appreciate -- >> what we learn on these holidays about our friends. >> along with all the turkey. >> still ahead, unintended consequences of the president's travel ban on tourism when "morning joe" returns. ♪

pudding... ...pudding... ♪ [sigh] did grandpa win again? what do you think? yes! download the new words with friends 2 today. and the wolf huffed like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said... symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day.

symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. symbicort could mean a day with better breathing. watch out, piggies! (child giggles) symbicort. breathe better starting within 5 minutes. get symbicort free for up to one year. visit saveonsymbicort.com today to learn more.

hesumatra reserve told in the time it takes to brew your cup. let's go to sumatra. where's sumatra? good question. this is win. and that's win's goat, adi. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. making the coffee erupt with flavor. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. that erupts with even more flavor. which helps provide for win's family. and adi the goat's family too. because his kids eat a lot. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. packed with goodness.

if you're going to cook the turkey. >> i know. >> take the bag out. i didn't do it again. i always cook the turkey with the guts in it. >> i didn't notice. he ate the bag. >> yeah. >> it was good. >> in one bite. >> was it bpa free? >> yeah. >> i don't know, and it was still a little frozen but that's okay. >> the game last night.

>> that last -- >> holy moly. >> joining the table now, an msnbc political contributor rick tyler. >> how was your thanksgiving? >> successful. the conversations were interesting. >> we have a lot to talk about. we've been talking about what republicans are going to be doing between now and the end of the year, what donald trump has to accomplish there is a big political event eclipsing everything between now and the end of the year. that's the election of roy moore in alabama. if that happens, what does that mean to the republican party? it's almost like they're better off if he loses in the long run. >> i think absolutely in the long run. so jeff sessions' term actually finishes up january 3rd. the election for his seat will again take place in 2020. the republicans could i'm

guessing easily retake that seat with a republican candidate. and so they could put doug jones in. they'll lose him for these bills coming which is what they're worked about. they're willing to sacrifice that. i think in the long run they'd be better to have a democrat than roy moore. >> there are assumptions who looked at the allegations who said this has to sink him. the polling averages have it close to tied. this is a race that's marginal. he has time. the story will go beneath the surface for a little while. i think democrats have to be careful in making an assumption roy moore is going to lose. there's nobody who is going to admit on a poll that they'll support roy moore, but they may pull the lever in the booth. >> and when we're confronted with something that opposes our opinions as people might be in

alabama, it hardens your commitment to your cause or your tribe. people are going to become more hunkered down the more they hear or there's a possibility the more they hear, t just like another story. another 12 days to go of this. >> and during the campaign, mika and i would always when we went to groups, would ask who is voting for donald trump. nobody would raise their hands because they were embarrassed in front of their fans. as we were leaving, they would come up and whisper, we're voting for him. you saw the same thing in state polls. wisconsin, michigan, ohio sometimes. some of the polls in upper midwest. people didn't want to admit they were voting for donald trump. boy, what's the number for roy moore? a guy -- an alleged pedophile. >> probably more. the polls are probably underrepresenting that. how much more do we have to learn? every subsequent story is more of the same and more proof.

if it hasn't had an impact now, why would more stories help? i think people become numb after a while. the same way we have almost become numb to so many of these shootings. you see the reaction become diminished and diminished. and i think there's an analogy there. >> it's all bad for society. it is. >> the white house offered a de facto endorsement of roy moore when kellyanne conway came out and said you know, we want the voters to elect somebody that's going to vote for our tax bill. obviously she was talking about roy moore. yep, a bit of a reversal, and they're also on the opposite side of where a lot of senate raps are. in the end if roy moore wins, you're going to see roy moore. they're not going to have the courage to not seat that guy. >> no, i don't think -- expulsion hasn't happened in 100

years. bob packwood was threatened to be expelled. he then quit. it's an extreme case. it worried me on the level where you see trump undermining the credibility of the media and the justice department. i mean, that is a dangerous thing. and if you use the justice department or you use the expulsion procedure to get rid of your political enemies, i think our republic is in real trouble. >> i agree. i think the president is not taking a stand, and -- >> he could have moral clarity. >> there's women in the white house not taking a stand, they are doing what president trump has been doing for months, undermining our democracy. undermining duty, honor, love of country, and respect for men and women alike. i mean, this goes beyond the pale. >> jeff sessions looks weak. this is a man who obvious loves being the attorney general, yet,

he won't defend the justice department against his own president. he has to decide if it's more important to defend the judicial system of the united states. i think it's something to be proud of. or stand up to donald trump. >> it's really interesting you talked about democratic norms. i saw a couple days ago, somebody who was really against roy moore and really didn't like donald trump saying, though, when the republicans were trying to figure out how to stop the election from happening, having luther strange resign and then would set up another election, this person had said you want to talk about undermining democratic norms? the way you do that is you make sure you change the process when you don't like how the process turns out. i think there are going to be a lot of people talking about that, as abhorrent as roy moore and his behavior has been, are you going to let mitch mcconnell

take the power out of the voter's hands. >> then the bar is lowered. >> fantastic. >> coming up, the images are harrowing. syrian refugees leaving everything behind to escape the brutal civil war that's torn the country to pieces. >> a new documentary follows one family's journey and that important conversation is just ahead on "morning joe." hey. pass please. i'm here to fix the elevator. nothing's wrong with the elevator. right. but you want to fix it. right. so who sent you? new guy. what new guy? watson. my analysis of sensor and maintenance data indicates elevator 3 will malfunction in 2 days. there you go. you still need a pass.

there you go. if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores.

liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. grandma's. aunt stacy's. what are the reasons you care for your heart? qunol coq10 with 3x better absorption has the #1 cardiologist recommended form of coq10 to support heart health. qunol, the better coq10. was supposed to be a wake reup call for our government?sh people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won't tell you that their so called "tax reform" plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations,

while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation. it's up to all of us to stand up to this president. not just for impeachable offenses, but also to demand a country where everyone has a real chance to succeed. join us. your voice matters.

>> what is home? the home is sky and ground. we don't have home. [ speaking foreign language ] [ sirens ] [ speaking forbe language ] >> hello. passport, i.d. [ speaking foreign language ]

a look there at the new documentary sky and ground which follows the journey of a family of syrian refugees in search of freedom. joining us now are the film's directors. thank you very much for joining us this morning. you follow this family. they leave aleppo. they want to get to berlin. where do they go? >> it's a very long journey that takes them all the way from syria to turkey to greece, mas done ya, serbia, hungary, austria in germany, and they get stopped in every country. >> a family of how many and are they able to stay together? >> it's a family of three generations. there are eight of them, but they travel with some other joiners. so at some point the group is about 15. at another point there are 14.

but that part of the family's eight people, grandmother, middle generation and kids. >> how are they physically moving? we don't get to desowatch and l into the eyes of the family. how do they get out of aleppo, and how are they moving from place to place? >> in the case of this family, they're walking a great distance. i mean from aleppo they're traveling to the border of turkey, and however they have k get across turkey. some take buses. others smugglers. they're crossing the sea which we saw last year, thousands of people crossing that sea. and then they literally go by foot and sometimes by bus and sometimes they were working with smugglers. it's really kind of this e-commercive nail biting journey. i mean, harrowing at times. >> they're walking into the inknoi unknown. they don't know what's going to

happen the next day or the next month. >> at any point in that, it made the film difficult to make. we're used to shooting date and 12 hours and overtime. they don't work on that schedule, and they never knew what was going to happen next. at some point they were hoping they had relatives in germany. they had this idea they will just have to cross one or two countries and they can arrange for something. and actually in every stop along the way, those expectation were shattered. they had to figure it out as they went. >> where did you meet them? >> i met them in a refugee camp. at that point they were there for two and a half months. they arrived there two days before the border between greece and macedonia was closed. they thought a matter of days and they could keep going like the millions we saw walking through europe and then they couldn't. they got stuck. they got fed up and decided to move on. >> you couldn't have been with

them every step of the journey. at one point i understand you left a camera behind. what was it like to review the footage of their self-documentation? >> it's an interesting process. what one reason we decided to go with this family after meeting a bunch in the camp was because if man said he was a film maker. my ears perked and i think this will be interesting. he started documenting the family and his actions, he was an activist in aleppo. he knew what he was doing. he taught his nieces how to do it. i think the collaboration, if you will, of them filming themselves and us filming them led to a very intimate film leaving the camera with them meant you get family bickering. you get a little bit of -- >> it's a reality show. >> it's a reality show of refugees. >> i can't believe i said that, but in a way, it is. and it's really reality. >> well, it's also, they're so

human. these are people more or less just like us. and this is a family that is bickering, arguing, laughing, having fun. i think when you talk about refugees, that gets lost a lot. this is a very kind of we're a part of this universal family. where we're not that different. when you see that humanity reflected in a big way, i think it can lead you to think differently about the issue. and kind of internalize it in a different way. >> is that what you were hoping to accomplish? >> i think we wanted to show a different side and show something that would give people pause and maybe make them think we're not that different and maybe we shouldn't be thinking of people as labels or victims, but there's more here, and we should kind of look more closely. >> does this family hope to return to syria one day? not the syria of this moment, of course. there's nowhere to go in aleppo at this point. do they view that as home and somewhere they can go back to? >> it comes up in the clip. it was a question i asked them pretty much on every stop, where is home.

there are people who grandmother, consistently said home is aleppo. there's no other option. the kids now a year later in berlin, the younger generation is somewhere inbetween trying to figure out if they can make a life, go to university, get training, professional education. it sort of depends who you ask. i think at the end of the day, if they could, they'd be back in heart beat. >> the film is "sky and ground". thank you both very much for your work. we're back in just a moment. us. it's what this country is made of. but right now,

our bond is fraying. how do we get back to "us"? the y fills the gaps. and bridges our divides. donate to your local y today. because where there's a y, there's an us. every day, on every street, in every town, across america. small businesses show their love to you. with some friendly advice, a genuine smile and a warm welcome they make your town... well, your town. that's why american express is proud to be the founding partner of small business saturday. a day where you get to return that love, because shopping small makes a big difference. so, tomorrow get up, get out, and shop small.

when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance

helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.

. >> i'm going to see that. that looks amazing. >> yes. >> a look there at the new documentary entitled frank serpico. joining us if writer and director and producer of the firm. also with the us the subject of the film. very good to have you with us this morning. >> good to be here. thanks. >> thank you for coming on. ho plays you better? you orchino. >> i'll play myself. >> this is the first time you tell your own story. what was the journey like? you've had an incredible life as a whistle blower.

>> the first thing i was unhappy with was the title. i would rather the title was my name is francesco and this story is just the tip of the iceberg. >> you already screwed up. >> well, you know, you can't -- this is what happens when you work with frank. >> i said that was just the title, but the fact is that what i said before the knapp commission 45 years ago is still viable today. nothing has changed. and if anybody wants to doubt me, tell the mayor, the governor, i'll show them the facts of the corruption that's happening in albany. >> okay. >> frank, i was watching the film. one thing truck struck me earlye film given your life and courage in testifying against fellow police officers four decades ago about corruption that existed in a grand scale.

the scene was this. you return to your boyhood, and you talk about shining shoes. and a big burly police officer comes in and asks for a shoe shine, and you shine the shoes. you're proud, and the cop walks out without paying you. you said you didn't pay. he doesn't say a word. he walks out. he returns a couple of days later. your dad is there. he says i want my shoe shines. your dad says pay first, and he leaves. with that impression on your nine-year-old mind, i believe you were nine or ten when it happened, why did that not sour you on the police force? why did you go onto become a cop? >> i didn't want to believe that's what a policeman was all about. i say there's no such thing as a crooked cop. you're either a crook or a cop, and you're a crook, that's wearing a policeman's uniform, and you're disgracing everybody

else wearing the uniform. i don't want to hear excuses from cops when they say you're bad. you have a responsibility. you're a police officer. you see something wrong, take action. the only problem is nobody will listen to them. >> frank, earlier this year, a wonderful writer wrote a book about the new york city police force called the force. it was well received. it honors cops, but i said what did you take away from the research you did. he said there's going to be another big scandal. it's inevitable that another one is always in the chute. >> as one of the characters in this documentary, it's not that it's not there. it's just that it gets exposed every 20 years. >> why did you want to make this? >> several reasons. frank's story has particular resonance for me as an italian american coming from an immigrant family. it's a great story of someone

who -- it's an immigrant story. it's someone that believes in ethics and hard work and integrity and public service. all the values of what we believe comprise the american dream. and in particular for me was a moment as a teenager in discovering a story that kind of set my imagination free of what i could do. you know? i think one of the big elements of the story is that when the moment that we are brave, that's when we're free. >> the fair part is that there's still former and current police officers that send me hate mail, and one of them already talking about the scene about the cop. and he says i don't believe that. that was made up. and they call themselves hero cops. i say where's your head? where are your eyes? there's another guy who was a

graduate, became a cop and wrote a book, and he tries to make fun of me in his book, and his grandfather was the bag man for the commissioner, but he says he found that an amusing novelty. and i say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. >> and on that note, the film is "frank serpico". it's available on demand. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> and we're back in just a moment. e the box. it's what's inside the person who opens it. ♪ give ancestrydna, the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions- and open up a world of possibilities. save 40% at ancestrydna.com. the lowest price of the year! ends monday.

jimmy's gotten used to his whole yup, he's gone noseblind. odors. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics... ...there's febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn't just mask, it eliminates odors you've... ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you'll want to try it... ...again and again and maybe just one more time. indulge in irresistible freshness. febreze unstopables. breathe happy. hesumatra reserve told in the time it takes to brew your cup. let's go to sumatra. where's sumatra? good question. this is win. and that's win's goat, adi. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. making the coffee erupt with flavor. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. that erupts with even more flavor. which helps provide for win's family. and adi the goat's family too. because his kids eat a lot. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. packed with goodness.

welcome back. you've seen the women of "the view". you know joy is not afraid to speak her mind. she's putting pen to paper. she recently stopped by the set for a look at her new book. >> with us now, joy bahar. she has her new book. >> you're not going to believe some of the pictures in here. >> we can't show some of them on tv. >> why not? it's just a picture in the newspaper. >> tell us why you decided to write the book. >> because i am being told by god to save this country. >> you go through the alphabet. >> yes. a to z. it was easier to write that way. you wake up and say m is more moron. >> or mar-a-lago. >> we talked with dennis leery before and asked how it changed his job as a comedian. he said it was important to laugh about it so people didn't take it so seriously.

>> you have to take it seriously but you have to make fub of it. as mel brooks makes fun of the nazis -- if i don't say the word nazi every day, i don't feel good. he makes fun of hitler. you make fun of them. that aggravates him more than anything else. >> the level of exhaustion that's out there, you go to dinner, i don't want to talk about trump at dinner. ordinary people saying i'm sick of watching him on tv. i'm sick of the tweets. how do you deal with that? >> it's exhausting. every dinner party, eventually he comes up. i've had fights with people at dinner parties. i don't want to go there anymore. people are splitting up marriages because of him. if you're not only same team, it's difficult to stay together, unless it's you two. >> we disagree all the time. >> you're not exactly -- >> well, isn't it important for people to be able to disagree

and be able to have dinner together peacefully? >> i think it's important, but i really can't do it. >> why can't you? >> because if you're a trump supporter, there's something going on with you that i can't abide. that means that you don't care about the environment. it means that you don't care about women's issues. it means you don't care about the fact that he provokes that nut case in north korea. i'm worried about the country. how can you be on his side? i don't get that. do you? >> i think this is a very -- i think this is a very fair argument that you bring up, and it's a real issue, because what we're all supposed to be about as members of humanity is to find a way to live together. and you're saying that we're at a point, possibly -- >> we can't. i believe that. >> but we have to. we have to figure out a way to talk to each other. i mean -- because there are -- i

don't understand why some people would be fine with what he does day in and day out, but if we're going to get past trumpism, don't we have to convince some of those people? >> who are they? where are they? >> well, i mean -- >> most of them are closeted. they're not really coming out and saying i'm for trump at these dinner parties. they don't quite say it. they're embarrassed. >> not on the upper west side, but if you get out there, there are plenty of people. >> i did a book signing where there was one republican. the rest were upper west side whack koe types. i love them. >> go to western iowa, alabama. they're out there. i guess that's the real challenge. we have jeff flake who goes out, gives a speech. he quits. bob corker does it as well. figure out how to fight. >> what's going to happen to the republican party? you only have low hanging fruit running the party?

>> republicans will lose if you only nominate extreme people. it will be what happened in missouri when claire mccaskill set up the opponent to run and beat him. >> do you think the democrats will win next time? who would they put up? >> that's a good question. if the election were next week, i wouldn't be surprised if trump won again for lack of direction in the democratic party. >> they're not courageous. they're courageous. they just don't have somebody with the charisma and with the -- when michelle obama goes when they go low, we go high. i think the democrats have to go lower and start to talk the way donald trump speaks. speak directly to the population and not toucouching it. go for the heart of the conversation. you'll see how many people go out and vote for them. i think i'll run. >> joy, you have a show to get to. the joy is "great gas bag".

there's the book. our thanks to the always outspoken joy behar. >> i think i might go as my purse? do you dare me? >> no. >> live chicken on the set of "the view". president trump intended to keep out potential terrorists with his travel bans. the consequences of the policy run far deeper than the administration expected. that's next. whoo! ( ♪ ) mom: hey, molly? it's time to go!

(bell ringing) class, let's turn to page 136, recessive traits skip generations. who would like to read? ( ♪ ) molly: i reprogrammed the robots to do the inspection. it's running much faster now. see? it's amazing, molly. thank you. ( ♪ )

with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis? how do you chase what you love do what i did. ask your doctor about humira. it's proven to help relieve pain and protect joints from further irreversible damage in many adults. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira has been clinically studied for over 20 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver,

and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. ready for a new chapter? talk to your rheumatologist about humira. this is humira at work. what about this shopping, this black friday thing. >> i don't get that. who would do that? never. >> it's being diminished. the importance of black friday is diminished because cyber -- people shop online so much and it's spread. there's been black friday creep into cyber monday. that one day is no longer as important as it was. doorbusters, it's a made-up thing. but it works.

>> some people like to be trampled. >> i thit's really horrible to leave your thanksgiving dinner to go wait in line. >> always been weird to me. >> me, too. >> the presents pile up so much. this week i'm cutting back dramatically. >> no presents. you get a rock. >> give my kid radishes, maybe some beats. >> a chicken's egg. >> check my facebook live. >> please don't. >> lee gallagher, you interviewed the marriott ceo arnie sorenson. he said the united states is going to use two to three million international tourists because of the trump administration policies. i heard somebody last week saying just coming in new york city, that new york city is getting pounded in tourism. >> i asked arnie sorenson, a wide ranging conversation about many things, including their attempt to target the millennial generation. i said how is new york doing because new york is an important market for hotels. he said it's doing okay in terms

of the building. but we're really suffering when it comes to inbound tourism because we're losing to markets like europe and asia because of the administration's comments about not being welcome to people from other countries. even though it's not the countries that send a lot of tourists here like europe and asia, it sort of sends a message that you're not welcome here. i thought that was really interesting. he quantified it to about two to three million inbound visitors this year that we might not get as a result -- >> talking about the travel ban? >> the travel ban -- it's a few things. it's two things. it started -- he said it started when president trump made the comments about mexico when he entered the campaign back in 2015. no one thought he was going to win at that point. once he won, then the immediate concern arnie said was mexico

and what is this going to mean for mexico because that's where the remarks had been the strongest. of course, later with the travel ban and talking about muslim countries and not being welcome to those, it sent a message around the world what could be next and how much are we going to take this hard stance. this isn't -- no longer a welcoming country. don't forget, those two to three million people, which is a lot of people. also, this is the hospitality industry and many, many, many jobs would be impacted if we were to continue to see declines like that. >> also some sense, europeans i've spoken to who make no secret of it, didn't want donald trump to be elected and have been hor fied by some of the things he said, particularly about foreigners and immigrants in the country, friends of mine decided we don't want to go. we don't want to feel like we're endorsing the administration in america. maybe we'll go on holiday some place else. almost like the resist movement

outside the country reacting with their pockets. the dollar has come down somewhat, so it's not that. it's a conscious decision from people who say i don't want to go to the united states. >> this is an underreported story. i don't think it's been talked about. it's not just the people targeted by the travel ban. it's just the perception around the world. and i'm hearing this from other people as well in the hospitality industry. >> you talk about overall standing in the world being impacted by this presidency. and i can't imagine that what you're hearing abroad isn't connected. >> i'm sure that all the feelings that people have about america at the moment are tied up very closely with how they feel about donald trump personally. whether it's on issues of climate change, trade, the muslim ban, a lot of people i speak to find that antithetical

and they don't feel it represents america, so they'd rather not come at the moment. >> lee, what does he say about airbnb. those guys are scrappy, ready for a fight with the hotels. what does sorenson say? >> i wrote a whole book about airbnb and spent a lot of time asking this question. it's a delicate dance because they, on the one hand, nobody wants to say they're fighting on the surface, the ceos, they all met each other. it's a pretty vicious fight. the regulatory front, hotel industry pushing back on airbnb in cities like new york, but at the same time all the hotel companies recognize that airbnb has touched a cord and there's something the consumer is responding to big time.

a lot of what the hotel companies are saying is they want it to be a level playing field. they think there are a lot of commercial operators of airbnb. they say no, we've gotten rid of those people, so it's not, quote, unquote, illegal hotels. airbnb has evolved over the years and taken upon itself to try to get rid of a lot of that behavior. it's a platform. it doesn't interview everyone who goes on it. it's an evolving discussion. i see the hotel companies taking a piece of that playbook. you look at a company like hyatt has instrublted its employees to be more themselves do away with the grooming standards, bring more empathy into the process. >> do they still charge for wi-fi. >> i think increasingly hotels are not charging for wi-fi as much. >> they need to stop charging for wi-fi. that's the biggest joke. it's a rip off. >> perhaps maybe everyone ought

to stop charging for wireless. all right everybody. have a wonderful weekend. that does it for us this morning. we'll be back at it monday morning 6:00 a.m. eastern. stay with msnbc all day for today's live news right now. on this friday after thanksgiving sales splurge. retailers cash in as shoppers hit the stores and their smart phones before the dishes were even cleared. is he cooperating? michael flynn's lawyers cut ties with president trump's legal team. this is big news folks. learn what the president's attorney is saying about the russia investigation. >> breaking overnight, the south african court more than doubles the sentence for olympic sprinter oscar pistorius. welcome to msnbc's live coverage on this friday, november 24th. i'm chris jansing. we begin