the coldest fact, the young woman gone too soon. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm krig melvin. thank you for watching. good morning, everyone, i'm dara brown in new york. it is 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. here's what's happening. on the sidelines, a new report giving insight into what is happening to the president's son-in-law since the new chief of staff took control. >> roy moore? >> sticking with him? >> sticking with him. >> despite the allegations? >> despite the allegations. >> is he going to win this race? >> yes, he is. >> what is your sense from other people from the state? are there republicans that are -- >> republicans that are going to go for him. >> you believe the women? >> i really don't know. >> but it's about him being a republican. >> not necessarily.

i just think if there was any validity to it it would have came out years ago. >> alabamians weigh in on their senate race amid new poll numbers and concerns about the president's nod to roy moore. plus looking out for the little guy or not? the new political fight over who will lead an agency tasked towards protecting consumers. and we begin with new word out of the white house from chief of staff john kelly. he's pushing back on a report that he wants ivanka trump and jared kushner out by the end of the year. kelly telling "the new york times" last night that there was honestly never a time when i contemplated getting rid of jarryd and ivanka. kelly's comments were in response to a "washington post" report on jared kushner's shrinking profile since he came on board and also in light of recent developments in the russia investigation. "the post" says kushner's once sprawling white house portfolio, which came with walk-in privileges to the oval office, has been diminished to its original scope under chief of staff john kelly and he has noticeably receded from public view. also new this morning the

justice department weighing in on the fight over who will pick up leadership of the consumer financial protection bureau tomorrow. the justice department office of legal counsel says the law allows president trump to name the acting director, but legal experts think it's not clear, and that this battle may need to be decided in court. nbc's morgan radford has the back story on all of this. >> reporter: just hours after the agency's first director, richard cord ray, stepped down on friday, he promoted his chief of staff to a position that would put her in charge. but then, president trump fired back, with his own appointment. saying mick mulvaney, the white house budget director, would oversee things. setting off a political firestorm. mulvaney, previously called the organization a sick, sad joke. >> some of us would like to get rid of it because we don't like the idea of there being a nonaccountable federal agency, which is sets a terrible precedent. >> reporter: his new rival leandra english was there at the beginning when liberal members

of congress like elizabeth warren created the agency in 2010 to protect against the illegal activity of big banks they say contributed to the 2008 financial crisis. the agency says it has returned billions to consumers, and worked to simplify mortgages and other financial products. >> we're making home buying process easier. and we've made it safe for people to send money to friends and family abroad. >> reporter: the agency has little congressional oversight, and is independently funded through the federal reserve. is this agency isolated completely from congress? >> well, they're funded by the fed. so congress, republican congress, certainly doesn't like that. so there's a lot of consumers, and consumer groups, concerned about how we're going to protect the average american. >> that was nbc's morgan radford reporting. the senate race in alabama is closer than ever latest poll shows the candidates at a statistical tie with just over two weeks left. republican candidate roy moore is set to make his first public appearance since allegations of sexual assault rocked his

campaign. nbc's ron hilliard is in auburn, alabama. what more can you tell us? >> dara, this marks 16 days until the special election here in alabama on december 1th. and it marks the 10th day since we've seen roy moore appear on the campaign trail. doug jones, however, was out at the alabama/auburn football game tailgating with fans along the way. we caught up to him and asked him about this race and ray moore his opponent's disappearance seemingly from the campaign trail and he said essentially that roy moore is trying to avoid talking about the issues, something that he's willing to do. he said he's trying to focus more on the kitchen table, jobs, health care, meanwhile we went out and talked to the voters, where this is still very much of an open race. it's a question of where these republican voters are going to go. are they going to sit home or are they potentially going to go and vote for doug jones? many of those voters the democrats will have to siphon off. this is what a few of them told us. >> roy moore. >> sticking with him? >> sticking with him. >> despite the allegations? >> despite the allegations. >> is he going to win this race?

>> yes, he is. >> what is your sense from other people from this state? are there republicans that are -- >> republicans that are going to go for him. >> you believe the women? >> i really don't know. really don't know. >> but it's about him being a republican? >> not necessarily. i just think if there was any validity to it it would have came out years ago. >> jones. >> why? >> i tell you what, cause he ain't no liar like roy moore is. >> you usually vote democrat? >> no, i usually vote republican. >> really? this time though you're not going to vote for the republican? >> no. >> very, very difficult to answer that. i don't have an answer yet. i'm not sure which way i'm going to go. >> you usually vote republican. >> absolutely. >> this time though it's not for sure. >> you know, no, it's not. >> would you be willing to vote for doug jones? >> i'm considering it. >> doug jones will be holding an event in birmingham this afternoon. roy moore, the campaign says, is finally expected to return to the campaign trail tomorrow in

fort payne, alabama. >> ron hilliard, thanks so much for that report. let's bring in melody dan onus and kevin cirilli, great to have you both here this morning. >> thanks for having us. >> melanie "the new york times" has a report this morning on the political consequences for president trump's apparent support for roy moore. they have handed the democrats a weapon, that they tolerate child perdition. this toll is so close in alabama isn't it going to be hard to gauge the impact of trump's response in 2018 and what are you hearing? >> well, this is certainly going to be an albatross hanging around the republican party's neck. if roy moore is elected, you better believe that democrats in every midterm election next year are going to be tying the gop party to this candidate, and this alleged sexual predator. it's not going to be good for the republicans, and they are already reeling from the races in virginia and new jersey this

month when democrats had a huge victory. so there's a lot of concern, both publicly and privately among these senators about what this means. but at the end of the day, doug jones gets into that seat it's going to be pretty disastrous for the president's agenda as well having the slim majority chipped away even further. it underscores the high stakeses for this race. >> let me tell you what steve bannon said in a breitbart interview. take a listen. >> i think that's what the president said. this stuff is all 40 years old. it's all allegations. like you said, let the people of alabama decide. that's why i'm a big believer, let the folks in alabama decide. i think it's going to be very straightforward. i think the president showed huge courage in the face of just withering criticism. >> i agree. >> by the pundit class. i just think it's great. >> kevin, your reaction to that with regard to this race and the president given a tacit nod to roy moore pop do you think that helps him? >> i think what we just saw was

absolutely fascinating. the voters there on the ground in alabama ultimately, this is what it's going to come down to. and to see them struggling and try to make sense of all of this is really fascinating. but to melanie's point, look, i mean, this should doug jones win this seat, i mean, this is a very slim majority, and the president's agenda, particularly the tax reform, hangs in the balance. that said, it kind of sticks that we're talking about, like that type of policy argument when these charges are so intensely serious. and, and i think that it the conversation at the end of the day ultimately has to shift back to to what are awe dock as a country to make sure that our institutions are better protecting folks, not just from in politics, and in the judicial system, but also across industries. and that's really where the conversation is starting to shift, you're seeing some line items added into legislation such as that tax bill to make it no longer possible for folks to write off sexual harassment settlements as a tax write-off.

and senator gillibrand has legislation out to increase sexual harassment training up on capitol hill. the bottom line is that a lot of republicans, including within the president's administration, are separating themselves, and distancing themselves from this race. and it's going to have some implications on 2018. i would cautiously make the argument, though, that we've seen this time and time again, though, where the president has been caught in a political firestorm, and republicans have, to some extent, carefully navigated that. we all remember the 2016 presidential election. look, republicans won the house, and they won the senate. >> melanie, i want to ask you, because this is such a close race. would you be in any way surprised if president trump ended up going down to alabama within the next three weeks? >> well, it certainly is surprising that we heard him almost, you know, support this candidate in the first place. so at this point, i'm not sure that that's completely out of the realm of possibility. but look, i think what the president he's made both a

political and personal calculation. on the political side i think he didn't, you know, want his agenda to be at risk, and let doug jones get in that seat. and on the personal side he doesn't want to be on the losing side of this race again. he supported luther strange in the primary over moore and it's something that tormented him, and he wasn't happy with, after, you know, moore actually ended up winning. and his base is sticking by this candidate. and so, you know, i guess at the end of the day, you know, it's disappointing, certainly, to hear him put partisan politics first, but i can't also say that it's a surprising move. >> it is a race everybody will be watching. kevin, i want to turn to these reports of jared kushner being pushed to the sidelines here. sources tell "the new york times" that mr. kushner has yet to be interviewed by mr. mueller's team worried that his conversations might have been picked up on a government authorized wiretap, or perhaps by russia or china. mr. kushner has become increasingly cautious about how he communicates, even with friends. what do you think is is actually going on here? do you think that john kelly might be helping jared by by

keeping him out of the public eye because of the investigation, how do you see this? >> here's what i think. i think that there are varying competing factions within any administration or for that matter amongst any politician, to have influence amongst the principle, in this case, the president. and i think that this is a situation where jared kushner has some influence in certain issues. he had a lot of influence during the campaign, and to to, you know, when you look at comments that jared kushner has made publicly he's said that he's had to become more of a specialist, so to speak, since president trump has taken office. i would quickly just pivot back to a point that melanie made about what's going on in alabama, and i'd also raise the issue about how democrats in particular have had to respond to allegations amongst previous folks, including, i think, what we saw with senator kirsten gillibrand commenting about former president bill clinton, in particular saying that he should have resigned.

this conversation around all of these issues is going to continue, and it's not exclusive. these conversations aren't exclusive to any one particular party. >> that's an interesting point. and melanie, you had spoken that before. what is your reaction to these reports? do you think they're consistent with what you're hearing? >> in terms of what we're hearing with jared kushner, you know, his role has definitely been diminished. his portfolio was really broad and free wheeling. much like his relationship with the president himself. but john kelly has really come in and cracked down and it's no coincidence that it's also happening at the same time that mueller's investigation is sort of closing in on kushner. you also know congressional investigators have asked for more documents from kushner. so there's a question is he a risk to the president and is that why we're seeing a more diminished role in the white house. >> please stay with us. we have more to talk about in the next block. stay with us. who's in charge here? the concern about who gets to lead an agency born out of the financial meltdown.

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it is one of the busiest travel days of the year. and this is how things look right now at chicago's o'hare airport. nearly 50 million people today will travel by plane, train, or automobile to wrap up their thanksgiving weekend. now let's head about 750 miles east to philadelphia's airport to see what's happening there. incidentally, close to 4 million passengers will have traveled by air this weekend. now to the south, to charlotte-douglas international airport. and we will be keeping an eye on this throughout the day here on msnbc live. president trump is defending his decision to appoint mick mulvaney to serve as the director of the consumer financial protection bureau. tweeting it has been a total

disaster as run by the previous administration's pick. financial institutions have been devastated and unable to properly serve the public. we will bring it back to life. the justice department backing trump by saying the decision within the president's rights. but their response is fuelling confusion over who is actually in charge. mulvaney or the acting director who is next in line when richard cord ray resigned on friday. let's bring back melanie zanona and kevin cirilli. how are you reading into president trump's tweet here? and what exactly does he want to see happen that wasn't done when the obama administration created the bureau? i mean what steps did they take? >> this is right in my wheelhouse. richard cordray wants to run for governor in ohio by resigning he's setting up husband future political ambitions. senator elizabeth warren, the likely 2020 presidential candidate, any time we're talking about the cfpb, the consumer financial protection bureau, that's a good day for elizabeth warren. she was the driving force behind the creation of the cfpb back in 2010, back remember t.a.r.p. and all of the 2008 fallout?

look, republicans don't like the way the cfpb is set up. but nobody is talking about getting rid of it entirely. and no one is talking about having the cfpb and using it to defend big banks. what this is about is for small businesses and the best way to regulate small businesses. director mulvaney of the budget office, back when he was in the house of representatives, he's saying, look, why should a small business outside of philadelphia where i grew up, or in michigan or wisconsin, have to have the same regulatory regime as the big banks? they can't afford to have all of those regulations. they shouldn't be held to the same standards. they're not in the same size. now elizabeth warren on the other hand she's saying hey wait a minute the big banks are -- we need to have these regulations, we need to better protect consumers. this is going to have a massive shadow over 2018, because who voters believe, whether it's the right, or the left, and how they're regulated, is going to be the deciting force in 2018.

>> so this is actually bigger than who's going to lead it. >> much bigger. >> melanie the legal experts say this will end up in the courts but what kind of fight does this set up on capitol hill and is there a precedent for it? >> right. i think there's going to be two showdowns on the legal side, and as well in the senate. on the legal side, at issue is whether it's dodd-frank law or the federal vacancies act that comes into play. whether trump really has this authority to override the line of succession at this agency. and it's roolly unclear, because this is an independent, young agency that was just created a few years ago and there's not a lot of precedent. now on the senate side keep in mind that they still have to vote to confirm a permanent pick. it's not just who's going to be temporarily taking over, it's who's going to head up heading the agency in the long-term and you better believe that democrats are going to do everything they can to gum up this process. they're crying foul that not only did the white house step in and try to appoint someone but also that they put mick mulvaney, one of the biggest critics of the agency in charge. so you better keep your eye on elizabeth warren and other democrats, some of the 2020

contenders as kevin mentioned, and how they will react with this. >> yeah, because this is a fight for the economic policy of the future of the democratic party, and senator elizabeth warren has this mantel. and she's going to grab this as an opportunity. she created this agency. this is her economic vision. there's not one other democrat in the 2020 contender field who has really thought as much of this agency and it's her legacy that is directly attached to this. this is much bigger than a he said, she said, back and forth between who should lead this. it is going to play out in the courts and we should know, cfpb was created under dodd-frank, and barney frank, has said that he believes that the current direct -- the acting director should lead the charge. >> real quick i want to get your take on this. do you think we're going to get the tax bill to the floor is mitch mcconnell going to be able to do this at some point after thanksgiving? melanie first? >> this is going to be a huge week for republicans on capitol hill in the senate. it's going to be a huge test of

whether they can get this over the finish line. there's still a lot of pockets of concern. you have deficit hawks worried about the budget, and the price tag. you have collins who is worried about the introduction of obamacare into the debate, repealing the mandate and you have ron johnson who said he's going to vote against it as-is because of the way it treats businesses compared to corporations. so the question is, are any of these people gettable? what can be done? can changesen made to win more support? that's something that trump will be discussing with congressional leaders the white house has said all along that if obamacare is going to, you know, sink the entire bill, we are okay with getting rid of it. so i'm sure the whip count will be very important this week and that's something they'll be discussing on capitol hill. >> and i've got to wrap here kevin real quick, yes or no. >> yes. but where are the deficit hawks. >> okay, great to have you here on this sunday morning. thanks so much. later this morning, a member of the house intel committee tells msnbc that there are more dots to connect on the russia investigation.

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this morning, an intense search is under way for the militants behind the massacre in egypt. the group targeted a mosque, killing at least 300 people and 27 of them were children. bill neely is in cairo, egypt, with the latest. and bill, has anyone taken responsibility for this horrific attack? >> no, dara, not yet. the al qaeda affiliate in egypt says it had nothing to do with it and that really just leaves isis as the only group capable of mustering 30 gunmen. and remember those gunmen flew the black flag of isis before this massacre began. so no one's really in any doubt that the al qaeda -- the isis affiliate in the sinai peninsula is responsible for this. meanwhile around 20 of the most seriously injured have been flown to hospitals here in cairo. some of them with life threatening injuries. and some of the injured have been speaking about their miraculous escape. some of them as young as 13.

one 13-year-old called abdullah said that people were climbing over themselves to escape. they were simply terrified. he was shot. another 14-year-old who was also shot said the gunman arrived and told the little children outside the mosque to get lost. then they went inside the mosque and began shooting at everyone. the imam of the mosque, who had just begun his sermon, agreed with that. he said the gunmen were firing at everyone who was breathing. now remember the gunmanmen escaped. they're still free to strike again. no arrests have been made. no more airstrikes in the last 36 hours. those initial airstrikes beginning to look simply like a revenge attack. and people are angry. they're saying the egyptian military simply can't protect people against isis. which is a very potent threat. not just in the sinai peninsula, but across egypt. and remember, dara, this nation really matters. it's the most populous country in the arab world. nearly 100 million people. and there is a war on here.

and it's a war that egypt's military isn't winning. so the three days of mourning here nearly over. the flags flying at half staff. but the anxiety and the anger here not over yet. dara? >> bill neely, thank you so much for that report. that will do it for me. thanks for watching. stay wus -- ♪

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