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very good sunday. thanks for staying with us on msnbc. i'm richard louie in new york city. we'll follow the story of two democrats accused of misconduct. we have senator al franken telling the minnesota star tribune he's ashamed of the angizations against him and that he'll return to work tomorrow. franken telling minnesota public radio he respects women. take a listen. >> first of all i just want to say that this whole thing has been embarrassing and has been

difficult but part of that have is that i want to respect a woman's experience, very often there are these kinds of things and allegations and that i believe that women should be respected and listened to. >> that is just part of that interview from minnesota public radio we shared with you there. also today within the last three hours, congressman john conyers of michigan will no longer be the ranking member of the house judiciary committee when he returns to capitol hill. he announced he will step down amid allegation he is sexually harassed former staff members we have leigh ann caldwell our capitol hill reporter who is covering it from our washington bureau jeff, we'll kick it off with you. you have reported from the hill, we have two big stories to talk

about just this hour. what's the latest that you know about? >> well, the latest from senator al frank who's giving his first on-the-record comments braking his silence about the 58 negotiations he harassed women in the past. he says he'll return to capitol hill where he could face more questions. the big difference in covering the hill versus the white house is that reporters have access to members in and around the hallways surrounding the capitol in a way we don't have access to the president here, for instance, so expect folks like leanne and her colleagues on the hill to speak with senator franken about that. but he said he was ashamed by the allegations that he harassed women some time ago, it was captured in that picture and then with john conyers we have the congressman stepping aside from his post, the top democrat he was on the house judiciary committee and i can tell you

having covered the hill status reigns supreme so for a member like john conyers the longest serving active member in the house, this is significant. >> leanne over to you, we have the sound that came in from al franken potentially soften the ground, those face-to-face meetings jeff was alluding to that others on the hill and you are so used to having, what else is al franken saying that is relevant to the accusations and allegations against him? >> well, the difference between senator franken and john conniers is al franken is add middle that his mistakes and taking responsibility, john conyers is saying he has -- nyi. we have additional sound from senator franken where he talks about the allegations where he touched women's behinds while

taking pictures. let's go ahead and play that and i'll come to you on the other side. >> i take pictures with thousands of people. i would never intentionally do that and so -- but that does not negate -- my intention isn't what is important. what is important is we have to listen to women and respect what they say. >> so al franken draws a fine line there. he talks about his intention, he didn't do it intentionally but as you heard he says that is not important. he draws the focus back to the feelings of the women who were at the receiving end of this and says that is the most important. i will say over the course of the past week after these allegations came out, senator al franken has received support from women.

first he received a letter -- there was a letter that came out from about a dozen of his former staff who said it was one of the best work environments they've ever had. i've spoken to people who have both signed on to that letter and some who have not signed on to the letter as well and just today we got another letter from more than 60 local minnesotaens, some elected to state government and other community leaders who say they don't approve of what senator al franken has done but they say he's been great for women in the state and they're willing to look past this. richard? >> leigh ann caldwell, jeff bennett, thank you both. i'd now like to bring in our panel. scott ditro is the npr political reporter. we have tamika mallory, president of mallory consulting and national co-chair of the women's march. we also have "new york times" columnist michelle goldberg. i'll start from this side and move my way across here. we have two stories and let's

begin with the issue of al franken, since leigh ann caldwell kicked off this panel saying it's the intent, his intent he is saying basically in the statements we ear he we're the first time today that he didn't mean to do this and if those pushing forth with the allocations know that it was not his intent. >> i think the allegations are difficult for him to respond to because they were anonymous and presumably he doesn't even know who they were so he is in, i think, a tough position is because if he wants to contest it, what exactly is there to connest? so i think he's handling it about as well as anybody could by trying to be true to the idea of believe women which has been a mantra for people who care about sexual harassment while at the same time not admitting to something he might not believe

that he's done. i mean, i hope that this balancing act, that he's trying to is pull off. i hope it works, i think people will be sympathetic because even if this is an imperfect as an apology, it's just a chasm apart from what you see on the republican sidings which to deny and attack and defame where i am who have made much more serious accusations. >> and al franken spent a good amount of time with minnesota public radio, the "star tribune" which goes through some of the statements he made and i'll share more with all three of you. he says in this interview he was thinking about how that could happen, this whole incident and i just recognized that i need to be more careful and a lot more sensitive in these situations going on to say would any woman

say i had treated more with disrespect? i would have said no. so this has just caught me by surprise. i certainly hope not. so he's accepting that it may have happened but he didn't know he was doing this along the way. what's going to happen on monday? he's going to be facing reporters like those on this panel that are going to have to react. >> i mean, i think he's leaning in, right? and that's what people need to do at this moment to try to fight it is only going to make the situation worse. but to lean in and to accept some responsibility is really important and i've heard a lot of people in conversations we're having, a lot of folks are saying i didn't even realize my behavior was, in fact, not right. and i think people are learning now and i'm really proud of women who are forcing this conversation regardless of the backlash that we've been receiving. we're pushing it forward because while they may not be in power,

we are being empowered to speak up. and that's an important thing and i think people need to lead in and take responsibility. >> let's add john conyers in today's headlines. he has come forward and said -- still denies these allegations but "i'm respectful of the ethics investigation that could be hurting my party, fellow lead lead leadership." nancy pelosi on "meet the press" having to defend him in uncomfortable ways and he may have seen that broadcast and said i can't do this, i have too step away as a member of this committee. is that enough? >> that's the question going forward and you're going to hear it with al franken and john conyers and many different people because now you have many different people on both parties who have one allegation or another, the circumstances vary different, the severity very different but you have both parties quick to point to the other saying you called for this

person to resign but not your person to resign. that interview with nancy pelosi on "meet the press," she said she thought conyers would do the right thing. >> she may have known, she may have not known what was happening. >> and i've talked to staffers on the democratic side who said nancy pelosi had been involved in conversations to have conyers step down but it's a very tough position to defend especially when you're trying to proactively change the rules in the house, there's going to be a vote to change the process of reporting and you don't want to be defending someone in your own party or trying to qualify or question their accusers like pelosi did at one point today. >> and some might say if you watched pelosi and what she said on "meet the press" and her statement after conyers stepped aside, it's waffling. she's doing the very same others might be accusing depending on what side of the aisle you might be sitting on what the other side is doing. should al franken follow what john conyers is doing by stepping down from committee?

from the four committees he is on? >> at this point i think no. i initially thought he should step down to sort of spare democrats the anxious so having to defend him and having to point out the subtleties, having to make these arguments about degrees of abuse and culpability but i think at this point it's pretty well established that what he did is not in the same realm as either what roy moore did or even what john conyers has been accused of. even to flatten those two things is misleading and so on the one hand i think this puts democrats in an excruciating position and it's then difficult to explain to the congressional black caucus why conyers has to step down but not franken and there's so much about what aboutism on every side but we have to make these distinctions. >> 15 seconds, tamika.

why are we listening to well? why could we hear today than what we couldn't hear before? >> i have to give the women's march credit for that. all of this is difficult, as michelle said, all of this is very difficult, very painful and again the more people lean into it, the least amount of plain and blow we're going to feel. >> michelle goldberg, thank you so much, we'll continue this conversation with scott ditro on the other 150id of this break. stick around. than anyone else in the country. because we know, even the smallest things are sometimes the biggest.

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so we're following breaking news engulfing capitol hill. congressman john conyers has stepped aside as judiciary committee ranking member as multiple women accuse him of sexual misconduct. a new report in the "star tribune" also today saying senator al franken will return to work tomorrow though he is ashamed, according to what he said to the paper. turning now to the senate race in alabama, just two weeks away from the special election and president trump still making the case for republican roy moore. nbc's katie beck joins us from birmingham, alabama, what she's calling the alabama race closely. we're watching the two-week timeline, you've been speaking to people each and every day. what is new today is the president is being more clear about how he feels and which side he's taking. >> that's right. tweeting early this morning that basically any vote for doug

jones would be a vote for nancy pelosi, for chuck schumer and that this would be bad for the u.s. senate. this is someone who is weak on the law, this is someone who is weak on borders and this is someone who the president believes in his words would be a disaster. roy moore tweeted saying he intends to win this race. voters here on the ground inial -- in alabama are divided. there's a lot of passionate opinions on both sides of the race, the latest polls indicate that. it shows this race appears to be a dead heat, virtually a tie and there are still days to go before this election but at this point it looks as though the race has tightened and this pressure is causing people to weigh in on what they think will happen. roy moore has not been seen at a public event for the past ten days. that's raising some eyebrows

with folks wondering what's going on inside the cam main. his communications director walked off the job leaving just six staffers to run that campaign but that absence will end tomorrow. we're told he'll be having an event tomorrow where he'll be addressing a crowd of supporters. we'll be there and asking questions about what's next for him. >> thank you so much, nbc's catie beck for us watching the race. let's bring back scott detrow, congressional reporter for npr and tamika mali co-founder of women's march incorporated. thank you all three for being here. when we look at what is happening there on the ground in birmingham, alabama, one has to say it looks like president trump is now taking a side. he was pretty clear early on saying fairly clear one might say through his white house press secretary that he was

saying i'll wait to find out whether the allegations are true and if true he should step aside now he's saying you can't vote for the democrats. is he clearly taking a side? >> i think he's been -- even though we are ie saying he hasn't been clear, he's tipping the scales in favor of moore and what we've been seeing is that we're at another moral crisis of race and gender and donald trump is tipping the scales who a number of women have come forward saying they've been sexually assaulted or attempted sexual assaults from their teenage years. i think voters have the opportunity to come to terms with this moral reckoning and whether they will or not, we don't know. but at least the polls are closing in favor. >> they're closing and a lot of watchers are saying it's interesting interesting to watch. there's a woman saying "i believe these allegations could be true or are true but i still

support this candidate." and this is okay but this is not okay. >> sure and the argument that well, what about the supreme court? what about taxes, i don't want a democrat -- >> which the president is making. >> and that's if argument you heard from many republicans last year when they decided to vote for donald trump despite the "access hollywood" allegations and the several women who came forward accusing him of sexual assault. the difference here is that even though many remembers in the wake of those ended up backing trump or saying they were reluctantly voting for him you have donald trump all but saying vote moore today but you have mitch mcconnell and many senate republicans, probably in the majority of senate republicans saying not only do they not want moore but if he becomes a u.s. senator they may take steps to expel him. >> so mitch mcconnell, tamika, who said they will take steps if he were to be elected to remove him from office but is the leader doing enough? a lot of folks are saying as we watch the debate on the topic i

was mentioning earlier, this is an individual accused of molestation, this is wholly different than what we were talking about in the last segment, this is very serious and this is only one of nine allegations that we know of at this moment. is this the sole -- as some republicans are saying now being decided upon in this election in alabama? >> well, i feel really uncomfortable having a conversation about sexual assault, molestation and politics. whether or not republicans versus democrats and any of that matters in this. this is about our good moral conscience. >> it's non-partisan. >> it's non-partisan and thankfully the people have the right to go to the poles and make a decision that is the right moral decision to make in this particular case you have to vote with your moral conscience and we know the people will speak and the people i believe will win because we don't have responsible people, we have a dangerous man who is the president of the united states who is a sexual predator himself.

so we cannot expect him to say anything that makes sense in this particular situation but, again we know the people will speak and do the right thing. >> in those "access hollywood" tapes, at least, he is championing or talking about and bragging about issues and actions related to sexual assault and this, i think is what you're saying here, tamika, to you, is it's an existential question when we have folks making decisions about voting versus an individual who has need serious allegations and what is often said in these spaces of gender equality is yeah, there's no politics to this, this is all wrong but we're seeing there are politics to this. >> it's a yes to add to what tamika was saying in terms of how many girls and women is the republican party willing to sacrifice to get a certain agenda across? so i think it's a moral crisis and also a moment to repair some of the damage or at least a reckoning for those voters who

voted for trump and dismissed those allegations. here you have so many women who have been saying and tearfully telling us what's happened to them, that we can listen to them and believe women and trust women and make alabama blue. >> it was said today on fox news that it's up -- restating what she said before, time for men to stand up, carly fiorina said, and admit they are potentially part of this group but my goal further here, scotts, aened i'm not asking you to talk for all men in the world here -- >> that's a relief. >> but the opinion based on being a political reporter, what might they do this coming week because they are going to be voting on rules affecting sexual harassment on the hill. what can they do to go fartherer? what can the other 80% of congress do to push this forward? >> that's a great question. last week you saw -- a couple weeks ago you saw the senate take a vote to change the way it handles this. to mandate training and how you

can report cases like this. that buzzfeed report and other stories have highlighted the arcane process the house has for dealing with accusations, a cooling off period, mediation, signing non-disclosure agreements right away. i think you'll likely see that change quickly. the thing is congress is often a very reactionary body and you talk about responding to things and three or three weeks pass and then they move on to the next crisis. but. this continues every two or three days. it will be interesting to see what congress does. >> it will be interesting to see if the men in congress start sponsoring bills wholly by themselves on this issue. great conversation all three, thank you so much. wish we could talk longer. appreciate it. still ahead. a family atear could be coming to an deend. what's behind the reports of the diminishing role of president trump's daughter and son-in-law. ♪ spread a little love today

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>> july 24 of this year jared kushner speaking back in july. kushner was asked by the senate judiciary committee to turn over additional documents by tomorrow and as the russia investigation widens the "new york times" reports kushner's to-do list in the white house is getting smaller. one of the reporters behind that story is peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" as well as an msnbc political analyst, also keviner is rilly, chief washington correspondent for bloomberg. peter phil in the blanks. that's some orth the reporting you were part of. what is what is happening with jared kushner right now? >> what we see is a figure who loomed so large in the early months of the administration, he seemed to have his hand almost everywhere. at some points his own colleagues in the white house referred to him as the secretary of state because he seemed to be dealing with saudi arabia and china and mexico, even iraq, a trip there with the general in charge of the joint chiefs of staff. not to mention middle east peace but since john kelly has taken

over as chief of staff and steve bannon has departed you see a more circumscribed role for jared kushner, one where he's got his projects he's focusing on but not having his hand in basically everything there is to do in the white house and that's a function of this new structure that john kelly put in place, everybody, even the president's son-in-law has to be in his lane and what jared kushner's allies and supporters would say is that's good for him because he can focus on the things he cares about most and not feel he has to play defense in the oval office but it's a big change for the president's son-in-law who early on seemed to be basically never. >> both of you know there seems to be negative criticism that has been said about the white house, chaos, lack of head count, difficulty -- fingers pointing this way, they don't know who is responsible for which. kevin twhashlgs do you know about where they're add today. are they closer to order?

>> first and foremost there's no question that jared kushner played a crucial role during the presidential campaign and particularly with getting digital data and helping to morph and capitalize on that for the trump campaign and like any political office the principals surround themselves with folks that have competing power structures and this is an example of general kelly coming in and making his mark. to peter's point and to his excellent reporting, this is a situation where i think jared kushner is now able to specialize on the issues he wants to. i think the question, though becomes just how this is going to play out on policy issues and i think that this week in particular big opportunity for republicans to get this through the senate in the tax reform package, jared kushner hasn't played a role in tax reform, for example, but i don't think anyone expected him to during the campaign. >> peter, we're mentioning the documents that will be due to the senate judiciary committee

tomorrow. do we have any idea about what specifically the documents are and how significant they are in terms of content? >> it was important for jared kushner to make sure he gives them everything they want to see because they have been very suspicious that he has withheld or held back on some things that he should have turned over in the first place, you remember, of course, he's had to amend his disclosure form, his -- dozens of times and the most important thing for him is to be forthright and as fully responsive as he can be. >> just as part of that, kevin, add in the other issues of michael flynn and his chile are team, we have jared kushner swirling around, the reporting is the president was upset with jared kushner because of how large this investigation has become from the fbi itself. is jared kushner on the outs because of this very intensity that we're talking about with the russia investigation? >> now you have a situation where general flynn and his

attorneys are reportedly not playing ball with the president's attorneys and are now looking, suggesting really that they're cooperating with bob mueller's probe. for people watching at home the notion that a republican or democrat aren't being fully cooperative, people at home don't care if it's jared kushner or tony podesta. they want folks to disclose who they're representing in their contacts with russia and vladimir putin's counterparts whether -- because at the end of the day the question becomes what is the united states of america doing to better protect its institutions, yes, political but also financial institution, also business institutions in silicon valley to protect american institutions from 2018 midterm elections and also yes the 2020 presidential election. the national intelligence community as you know has indicated russia is already trying to get ready to do more damage and the united states, we've got to be prepared for that. >> since we're talking about

palace intrigue and jared kushner to both of you there is also the reporting ivanka trump when she came out against roy moore saying there's a special place in hell and that was reportedly part of this disgruntledness with the jared/ivanka team and the discussion that they might leave washington, d.c. earlier. what do we know, peter? >> that's right, the president was struck and stunned by what his daughter said publicly. he didn't agree with it because you saw him come out within days to say, in fact, he's basically for roy moore, at least he's not against roy moore, he's definitely against the democratic candidate doug jones, no question about where he stands and there has been this discussion for a while now, will they stay, will they go. in fact, john kelly, the chief of staff we talked about earlier told several people he imagined them leaving by the end of the year. now he's denied that but there's no question that issue is on the

table. when do they go back. now jared kushner and ivanka trump are telling people they are here for the indeterminate future, that they are more comfortable, more satisfied in their jobs now that the white house structure is more organized and more orderly so they don't intend to go anywhere any time soon but it's one of those things in president trump's world where anything can change by the day. >> we talked about the cliche of tough thanksgiving dinners. i would have loved to be a fly on the wall when they got together and were carving that turkey. kevin cirilli, peter baker, appreciate it. still ahead, more from senator al franken's first intersince facing sexual misconduct allegations. what he says this experience has taught him and the future of his congressional career. >> with your family that you've been with for the past few days have you talked about seriously resigning? have you considered that? >> no, no, the ethics community

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>> with your family that you've been with for the past few days, have you talked about seriously resigning? have you considered that? >> no, no. the ethics committee is looking into all this and i will cooperate fully with it. listen, i know i have a lot of work to do to regain the trust

of people i've let down. >> let's bring in emily tisch sussman, matt mackelwitz. that's brand new sound into us at msnbc with al franken to minnesota public radio speaking with media. emily, he goes on to say today within the last couple hours, at least when it was released that he is ashamed and paraphrasing here that he was unaware that he was doing what he was doing based on the allegations put forth so far. what's your take on what he's said so star in. >> i think he's handling this about as well as he can. he's leaning into the allegations and strongly supporting the sentiment that's been out there for the last couple of months which is support women, believe women. he's saying i believe these women, i do not realize the consequences of my actions but that's not what's important, what's important is what they felt. he's owning up to it. this changes.

this is how we want our leaders to respond. >> when we look at what john conyers did today, also within the last three or four hours, matt, he decided to step aside from one of the committees he is on. that's one of the steps amidst allegations from him in an ethics investigation, with the request of an ethics investigation from al franken, should he do more and what might that be? >> this this case, both of these democrats, al franken and john conyers are trying to run out the clock. they're trying to delay any meaningful punishment. i have to differ with what my colleague just said, i don't believe al franken is leaning into this. he waited eight days, he's been hiding, hasn't been doing his job, releasing terse statements to the press, not taking any accountability in any meaningful way, paying no consequences whatsoever. and saying he inadvertently touched someone, sexually assaulted them, several people, i just think that dunts really pass the smell test. as it relates to john conyers,

you have several settlements at stake here that taxpayer dollars were used to pay. i don't understand that. why are taxpayer dollars being used when a member of congress is engaged in a lawsuit for sexual assault or sexual harassment? >> we're only aware of one so far but that is a criticism that's been levees from all sides about these settlements and that tax payers are paying for it and that's on both sides of the aisle, there's more from al franken that we're just getting in. let's listen to your response. >> i want to ask about this photo, the leanne tweeden photo. >> inexcusable. >> what was going on in that photo? >> what my intention was doesn't matter. it matters that i am ashamed of that photo i -- she is -- she didn't have any ability to conse consent, she had every right to

feel violated by that photo. i have apologized to her and i was very grateful that she accepted my apology. that's what i can say, my intent doesn't matter. what matters is that she felt the way she felt from this photo and i'm ashamed of it. >> emily, clearly the takeaway is my intent didn't matter. what do you think he's saying? >> i continue to think he has a strong response in saying that he believes the women and the intent doesn't matter, his words. i'm not sure how much more you could be asking someone to be taking responsibility. i know people are calling for his resignation but it does feel like he believed it. he believes that he hurt her, the intention was not there, nevertheless that happened. and so we do need to have a way for people to be taking responsibility. our culture is rapidly shifting.

women are coming forward, feeling comfortable to come forward which is one positive we've seen out of the election of donald trump which is that if our president won't take responsibility for the actions he's taken women will be more forceful in coming forward with actions done against them and that is -- it's terrible these things have happened. the change in the culture is a positive and now we need to know how to deal with politicians who do it and people at the top. >> change in attitude and belief and perception but matt some are saying let's see change in action in congress. let's see them go farther. looks like we've lost matt mackelwitz due to technical difficulties. change yes but people are asking let's do more when it comes to congress. they may be voting this coming week on rules related to sexual harassment education. critics will say this isn't enough and might individuals like conyers as well as franken

turn this into a positive and be leaders on this and look at legislation that will affect not only congress but also business and organizations across our country? >> i certainly hope they will, the legislation they're looking at to reform the steps that are taken in congress when there's a sexual harassment complaint are long overdue. the time line is too short, the steps are too many. >> what can they do more, emily? >> i think they need to do more to make it a digestible process. i've worked on military personnel policy in the past and there was a great debate as to whether somebody should be reporting directly to their supervisor whether they can go around them because of chain of command and seniority and because of that aspect of -- well, that aspect of seniority and if you have to report to someone directly that exists in the military, that exists in business, that exists in congress. we need to have safe pathways for people to report and feel secure in their reporting and know they won't be retaliated

against so congress has traditionally a body that is reactionary, but i hope they become an example for business and go further so. >> so potentially we could look at the u.s. military as one place that look at policies that could be pulled into congress and the debate that they might have on kohlsys. emily tisch sussman, thank you so much. matt mackelwitz, i apologize for technical difficulties. we owe you one. >> still ahead, how you can help give back ahead of the holidays. we'll talk about that for giving tuesday.

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>> i was a chinook mechanic and i was in the 160th, special operations. and for me, it's educated shawn and my daughter on things that i do that are kind of off, but, you know, not that take it personally and really about how to better help me through tough situations. >> brian, what kind of injuries did you sustain? >> just, ptsd and some others physical things. >> we thank you for taking the time to come on-air to talk about these things. we understand these are not easy discussions and, shawn, for you, as you've supported your husband over the years, what is it like to have been a caregiver, to be a hidden hero. because military families are military families. >> you're exactly right. and it's difficult, but at the same time, it is the most

rewarding experience that i have ever had. you never know what the day is going to bring. but if you can educate yourself enough in what your loved one is experiencing, it does make it easier, although, like i said, it is a very tough job. >> for you, as we look at this, courtney, the youngest here on our discussion, you're also a hidden hero. you're also a military family caregiver. you're one of 5.5 million that do this across our country. what has it been like for you, courtney, to take care of your dad? give me an example of how you have helped your dad. >> i mostly just, like, kind of just hang out with him, basically. like, just hang out with him, give him things to do. i have a little sister, she's 7, so when she's having a tough time, mostly take her away from him, so he doesn't get too riled

up. >> you help the family by helping the family. and what do you and your dad talk about? do you bring him things? do you -- do you walk through things with him when he needs a little bit of help? >> not really. mostly talk about, let's see, amazon, what's my amazon list right now. >> she keeps me grounded. she really keeps me grounded. >> she keeps you grounded, yeah. >> and in the present. >> brian, what is it like, when you came back from service to see your daughter take a lead and take care of you and take care of the family. what was it like for you to see that? >> it just gave me goose bumps thinking about it. i'm proud of her. she's -- i mean, when i've been in the hospital, she's the first one there to visit. when i need something, she's the first one there. and it's just heartwarming and it's just special. and i love her to death.

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well, that does it for me. i'm richard lui. thanks for being with us the last couple of hours. the news continues right now with yasmin vassoughian. >> i'm yasmin vassoughian, everybody. breaking his silence. minnesota senator al franken speaking out for the first time after being accused of groping several women. and stepping aside, john conyers steps down as the top democrat in the house judiciary committee, following allegations that he sexually harassed four more aides. all of this as president trump continues to back roy moore by going after his opponent on twitter. will it help moore win the crucial senate seat in alabama? that's all coming up. let's get started, everybody. >> john conyers is now stepping down as the ranking democrat on the house judiciary committee. >> imagine having a slush fund where nobody has to know what the