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little girl, the other victim in this tragedy, the child who, in an instant, lost two mothers at the foot of the basement stairs. >> that is all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natally morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> it was chaos. >> a day at the mall descends into mayhem as armed men turned shoppers into prey. >> lots of screaming. lot of gunfire. they lad a demeanor like they owned the place. >> panicked moms protecting their kids. >> i just kept telling them to be quiet like a mouse. >> my goodness, he is going to cry, this is it. >> kids forced to protect one another. >> you grabbed your brother.
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>> chbdand just ran. >> and from out of the blue, a hero. >> i just called to her to start running towards me and she starts running. >> could he rescue the very smallest of victims? >> did you have a moment where you thought oh, my god -- welcome to "dateline." newtown, orlando, las vegas, it seems like mass shootings have become all-too frequent here in the u.s. and overseas at a mall in t nairobi, masked assailant s carried out an even deadlier attack. gunmen turned it into a scene of bedlam. but what also emerged were some remarkable stories of courage and survival. here is kate snow.
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>> it's the modern day town square, a gathering place that fulfills our every need, shopping, eating, socializing. a trip to the mall is an escape of weekends and not just in america. in kenya, the upscale and modern west gate mall was the place to unwind at the end of the workweek. it was the last place you would expect something like this. gunshots, explosions, armed men taking over every floor, methodically shooting anyone in their way. that was the unbelievably brutal scene that played out in front of a shocked world september 21st, 2013. just after the smoke cleared, dateline traveled to nairobi. we'll take you inside the mall attack with scenes of how it unfolded and details of those
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who lived through it. you will hear from two mothers caught in the crossfire. >> it was pretty terrifying. it really was. it was very, very, very terrifying. >> two mothers caught on camera. >> i'm going to die. the kids are going to die. >> in a matter of seconds, these moms, an american and a kenyan would go from strolling through the mall to make life or death decisions to save themselves and their children. for catherine walton it began like any other saturday with her husband phillip away on business she took her five kids to the westgate mall. it was a place where all of them could be entertained, the teens and the toddlers. her kids liked the chicken place, the candy store. >> it was an opportunity to walk around, kill a couple hours, and i knew we'd go home and have naps and everybody would be happy.
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>> they chose to move to kenya two years earlier from texas. it was like going home. they were both children of missionaries and grew up in countries in west africa. they met in boarding school in africa, married in the states and started raising their family. at the time of the attack, blez was 14 years old, ian 10, porsche 4, gigi 2 and the baby was born in kenya. their morning at the mall unfolded just as any family' might. they had lunch together. then the boys decided to race down to the first floor to a big department store, sort of like a super walmart. mom and the three young girls were finishing up lunch, so they lagged behind. as they were walking through the mall to catch up with the boys, with a baby in a sling and the
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two toddlers, it happened, an explosion. >> the first thing that tells you something is wrong is a huge bang. >> yeah. >> coming from where? >> it was the main entrance, so it was off to my right and behind me. i remember turning around and looking at it and just seeing people screaming and running. >> in those first seconds, catherine was unsure what was happening. she thought it sounded like broken glass or something falling. but she immediately grasped that she and her girls were in danger. the chaos confused another mother not far from catherine. faith was in the mall with her two children, nine-year-old daughter and 21-month-old son. the researcher was shopping for an anniversary present for her husband. she was in a flower shop when she first heard the noise. >> it was so loud that i
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actually thought it was an earthquake and the building was collapsing. that was the point when i told my kids to lie down. of course i'm scanning the area wondering where we're going to go. >> scenes captured on security cameras in the mall show how quickly the attacks began. you can see machine gun bullets flashing down the main concourse as shoppers scramble and dive to the floor. >> and then i saw trace arounds starting to hit the shops straight ahead. >> catherine's first thought, protect her kids. >> it was instinct to grab the girls and run. but we must not have come too far and a kenyan woman came and scooped up porsche and we ran behind this display table, display cabinet. >> catherine, her girls and the kenyan woman took place the only place they could. here they are crouching under a flimsy display table.
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>> petra was crying because i was laying on her and it was very loud. >> what were you hearing? >> everybody was scrambling and the shooting was like coming from all directions. >> catherine knew her boys had been headed toward that department store amid all the noise and commotion she managed to call them and yell out a quick morning. >> i said don't come out. go run, hide. do not come out. >> catherine knew the situation was dangerous, extremely dangerous, but at least she had some cover. faith and her kids were also trapped on the ground floor, but cowering out in the open, exposed to the gunmen stalking new victims. >> i'm telling the kids to lie down. now there is continuous loud sounds and that's when i knew there was shooting.
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and then i thought, wrong choice of hiding place. my daughter at one point asked me, mama, was this the best place we could hide? >> the assault continues. you are not hearing just one gun. >> no, it was all over. it sounded like it was all over. of course in the building it was just echoing and reverberating. >> you could look up and see other floors? >> where i was laying, i could see across and up the different levels. it was just chaos. >> what is the smell like? >> the whole mall was cloudy and smoke everywhere. gunpowder burning smell. >> did any of them come anywhere near you? >> i saw two of them that walked from the main entrance in front of the line of stores directly in front of us. >> hold on. what did you see? i mean you saw their feet go by? >> no. i saw them. i saw two whole men. you know, they were 50 yards, 30 yards away, i don't know. >> what did they look like? >> they had tan and gray
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clothing and they were carrying very, very large weapons, very large guns. >> hearing the gunfire and screams echoing through the mall, both catherine and faith could tell the gunmen were spreading out, killing people as they went along. two mothers trapped with young children worried they'd be next and a growing fear seized catherine. her boys were no longer answering their phones. where were they? coming up -- the terrifying uncertainty for those inside the mall and loved ones outside. >> i got a phone call, your wife and sons are in there and they're separated. >> soon a friend of catherine's would go from worried to frantic. >> when she sent that, my heart just sunk. jay chooses to run every day. no matter what it brings. or where he is. and pain doesn't hold him back. thanks to dr. scholl's running insoles.
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armed men stormed into the westgate mall in kenya firing round after fatal round. catherine walton was hunkered down, crouched in a small kiosk with a stranger and her three young daughters. she was desperately worried about her sons who were somewhere out there, but she had to focus on keeping her daughters quiet so they wouldn't attract attention.
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>> are you hiding from these gunmen? >> yeah. we were laying down on the ground trying to hide from them so they couldn't see us. porsche kept her fingers in her ears. gigi wanted her blanket, her flashlight. gigi said she wanted her brothers. and i told her that we'd see them later. >> catherine could only hope that was true. half a world away, a phone rang in a hotel in north carolina. catherine's husband, phillip, had gone back to the u.s. for business meetings, leaving his wife alone in nairobi with their five kids. >> i got woken up at about 6:00 with a phone call from our dear family friend, so i knew it was not good. >> do you remember what he said? >> there is an attack going on at westgate and your wife and sons are in there and they're separated.
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>> that's a call you don't want to have to make. >> the family friend had been at home recovering from surgery when he got an urgent text from catherine. >> what time did the first message come in? >> the first one came in at 12:52. she said pray, shooting in westgate. hiding. >> that's a message. >> it just blew me away. i actually wrote her back, really? and she said, yes, i don't know where the boys are. she said find blez. >> i started looking on the internet. somebody put out a statement on facebook saying don't call anybody because when the phone rings people are getting shot when their phone rings. paul didn't call but stayed in touch with catherine through text messages. >> i sent a text saying get me out of here. not like i thought he could. but i was desperate. >> when she sent that one, my heart sunk. >> catherine didn't text her husband phillip because she knew he was too far away.
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back in north carolina, all phillip could do was wait. it was 6:00 a.m. and news of the attack hadn't hit the u.s. yet. >> i'm trying to imagine the feeling of getting that phone call and being so far away. >> i think helplessness is a pretty accurate word. you know there is nothing that you can do. i was so worried the girls would just be screaming like uncontrollably panicking and drawing attention. >> exactly what catherine was trying to prevent the girls from doing. >> i just kept telling them to stay little, to stay very quiet and the kenyan lady that was with porsche just kept patting her and soothing her and gigi was curled up in a little ball. her breathing was so quiet and so shallow, i kept rubbing her back and touching her because i was like maybe she's hurt and i don't realize it.
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>> cramped in her hiding spot, he was desperate to reach other boys. after trying and trying, she finally got through again. >> i was able to send a text and said, are you okay and ian told me they were okay and they were safe. >> you thought your boys had gotten out. >> i did. when he told me they were safe, i thought they had gotten out. >> but they hadn't. the boys were hiding in the back of the store. this cellphone video captured the battlefield the store became. the aisles were a bullet riddled maze. shoppers were stunned. some drawing fire. and now there were gunmen headed towards catherine's sons. the other mother trapped in this nightmare had her two young children with her and was worried about controlling her toddler son. they heard gunfire all around them.
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>> i feel bad because i was lying on him trying to shield him at one point and i said, oh, my goodness lying on this floor and i'm pressing down on his back, he must be so uncomfortable. that is when i put my fingers in his mouth hoping to give him something to suck on. >> they remained like this, frozen in place for minutes, and then for an hour. she was terrified her son would start crying and give them away. >> i can see his face creeping into a cry. and i know, my goodness, he is going to cry. this is it. coming up, faith makes a fateful choice. i thought now our cover has been blown. >> while our other mom becomes terrified that she and her girls are moments away from being discovered. >> i knew that if those men came around behind us that they could see us. >> when dateline continues. i just got my cashback match,
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>> there was a lull. they were playing with the phone. and then the shooting started again. one of them threw the phone and it got underneath our bodies and i couldn't reach it. >> you couldn't text anybody. >> i couldn't text anybody, couldn't get ahold of anybody. >> i was texting her and then no more texting from them. other people started calling me and saying this is really bad. they were seeing pictures of people being killed. >> and she's not responding to you now. >> just down the corridor, another mother struggled to keep her children quiet. >> you are thinking about our survival and thinking will this stop and run to an area where we can be safe. >> but there was nowhere for faith and her children to go. she told them being quiet wasn't enough. she made an incredible decision. they would all play dead. her nine-year-old daughter could understand how important it was to stay still.
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her son then, too, seemed to sense it as well. he didn't move except for an occasional blink. >> men with machine guns scoured every inch of the mall. >> we could hear them passing from time to time. but there was no way to change my position. >> as the minutes dragged into hours, knowing her son might stir at any minute, faith was relieved when he dozed off for a bit. >> he was lying there on the ground snoring away. i didn't know if he was alive. because one eye was shut, another was open. >> hot, cramped with numb limbs, faith urged her kids to fight the need to move. >> my daughter, whenever i felt like she was, you know, twitching or changing her position because my hand was on her arm, i would just squeeze a little bit and she understood that to mean, stay still. >> but then the two-year-old woke up. faith wondered how much longer he could hold on.
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she took a chance and played a game. she pretended glass and bullets were insects. >> he really likes insects. >> the gunmen continued to brazenly troll the mall floors looking for victims. catherine was worried they would see her and the girls. after all, she was seeing the gunmen. >> when they walked by you, were they shooting? >> no. they were walking very slow. they almost had a demeanor like they owned the place. >> like they knew they were in control. did they see you? >> they looked my direction. i knew if those men came around behind us, that they could see us. >> those men had already killed dozens of shoppers. in this video captured by a security camera, a wounded person is prodded by a terrorist. other parts too graphic to broadcast show the gunmen
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callously shooting people throughout the mall, even the injured. the outside world was beginning to get some idea of how terrible it was. >> loud explosions were heard tonight in the kenyan capital of nairobi. >> those still trapped inside the mall couldn't know they were part of a terrorist attack. faith and her two kids remained absolutely still. it was their only chance for survival. but her mind raced. >> i'm thinking about my husband, where is he? how will he get to know about this incident. i'm wondering will any of my children get shot? will i get shot and my children have no mother? >> faith was determined to protect her children at any cost. >> i remember covering the children, my son's head and my daughter's head and i said any bullet would have to pass through me first before it gets to these children.
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>> faith and her children had been flat on the floor for a full three and a half hours. when suddenly she heard something. >> we had had voices from above us on higher floors asking us to get up. mother, mother with the children, you mother down there with the children. >> i knew they were now addressing me. but immediately, we got up on our knees and the shooting starting again. >> she thought by moving she would draw attention to herself. >> we were scared because we thought now our cover has been blown because now they know we are really not dead. >> faith didn't trust anyone now, so when a man approached, she was sure it wasn't good. >> and that's when i felt somebody touching me, i knew they had come for us because now they know we are alive. so we just laid down there and i remember telling them, shh, quiet. >> faith has to make a split second decision. their lives depend on it. should she trust the man talking to her child.
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i'm dara brown with the top stories. one day after michael flynn pled guilty, trump is making headlines for a tweet who suggests that he knew flynn lied, saying in part i had to fire general flflynn because he the vice president and the fbi. and brian ross is suspended for four weeks following a serious error in the reporting about michael flynn. he said on twitter he agreed with being held accountable. now back to "dateline." welcome back. i'm craig melvin. gunman had taken over the
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westgate mall and they were patrolling the building searching for more victims. the two mothers in our story both hiding with their children were hoping that their time was not running out. here is kate snow. for three and a half hours after armed gunmen stormed the westgate mall, two mothers had been trapped. catherine crouched for cover with three young daughters, gunmen patrolling near by. and faith and her two young children played dead all that time. they moved once and were instantly shot at. as a man approached them, faith held her position, but he wasn't a terrorist. he was a police officer. >> baby, baby, touching my daughter, baby, baby. are you okay? are you okay? and i said, wow. in my mind i'm thinking this must be a good person. then he said, it's safe. it's safe. it's the police.
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>> faith's nine-year-old daughter was the first to move. >> my daughter put up her head. quite hesitant and asked him are you with the bad guys? because, i mean, i was still looking down. i was scared. i thought now they've come where we are. so my daughter put her head up. it was too late to tell her to put her head down, engaged the police officer in a conversation and then said mama, look up. and then almost against her instincts, faith began to trust. >> when i looked up and seen his civilian jacket, i didn't know who he was. and then as he sat up, then i saw his shirt. i was able to recognize the uniform. and then he said it's fine. i'm going to lead you to safety. get up. >> desperately afraid to move, it was time to make a run for it. still worried that gunfire would
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erupt again, faith got up and crept toward the exit with her children. >> i remember seeing a body lying there on the steps as we ran out. but i said i am focusing on where we are going. there was this policeman running too fast and way ahead. the one with my son was lagging behind and i kept on saying, my son, my son. >> after all those hours, forced to keep her children quiet, they were finally out. >> i'm crying now because i'm free, you know. there is all this tears of joy. >> in his hotel room, 6,000 miles away in charlotte. phillip could only hope his story could have just a happy ending. he was combing through news reports he saw on social media. >> i remember one specifically where they said somebody had just seen them bring a child's
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body out in the shopping cart and they said it was a five or six-year-old little boy and i thought to myself, well, i don't think anybody would confuse our boys for being five or six. but could they confuse one of our girls for being a little boy? and that was a -- that piece of news was very traumatic to me. >> in agony and alone, he prayed and started playing one song over and over in his mind. >> i think we do have a measure of grace that comes to us in very difficult times. for me there was a u2 song that went off in the back of my head called 40, from the 40th psalm. i just started reading that psalm over and over again and it was exactly what i needed to hear. and, so, i took a lot of comfort from that. >> it's got that great -- i know the song. >> it is an awesome song. ♪ >> yeah, exactly. it came the inspiration of hope
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and gave me something to pray about during the time i didn't know what was going on. >> he was comforted by his faith, but it was impossible not to worry. by now he knew what his wife didn't, that his entire family was caught in a carefully coordinated, full blown terrorist attack. >> you think the worst. when you know that these are terrorists and you know that their intent is not, you know, to steal something and get out of there, but it's to kill people, and you know their intent is to hurt christians, you know their intent is to try and disrupt our way of life in kenya, you know, it's -- the realities of what could mean are very present.
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>> he had no way of knowing whether his family was alive or not, no way of knowing that soon some of his prayers would be answered. >> coming up, phillip and catherine's sons are trapped in the most violent part of the mall, and a 14-year-old realizes it is up to him to protect his younger brother. >> i just thought, ian first, me second. the reception for this product
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the world watched in horror as the terrorist attack unfolded. many were still stuck inside with little communication to the outside. phillip walton because in the u.s., far from his home in kenya, when he learned his wife and children were among those in the building. all he could do was wait. and pray. here is kate snow. three hours had passed since phillip was awakened by a call telling him his family was trapped inside the westgate mall, pinned down by gunfire. he had been on his computer all morning checking for updates. suddenly he received a facebook message from a friend with a freeze frame and video and there was an unmistakable sight.
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his two sons alive and outside the mall. >> it was my two sons standing with my business partner, who is a big and noticeable man. >> paul weaver raced down to the mall area and confirmed the picture was real. the boys were out. >> and just seeing them, i mean, i don't think there was any bigger hug in the world. but it was joy. but at the same time seeing the anguish in their face. we sat on the floor and blez laid his head down and all the emotions coming through him. it was the greatest moment and one of the saddest moments at the same time. >> a joyful moment for phillip knowing his boys were finally safe. but too brief because he knew his wife and three young daughters were still trapped in that mall. the walton boys had endured three and a half hours in the most dangerous area in the department store where
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terrorists hunted down innocent victims, terrifying for anyone, but especially two boys separated from their mother. this is blez walton. it was difficult for him to recount the story, but he wanted to tell it starting from the beginning. the two brothers just paid and were standing in the checkout line when they saw something strange. >> what is the first thing you hear or see that's weird? >> everybody looks to the main entrance and we all look as well. everybody. and then a loud sound happens and three people go flying. that's when people realize what's going on and they run. >> three people go flying in the air. >> they just fell backwards. it was scary. >> did you think it was a bomb or something? >> i thought it was a bomb at first but when i heard the two gunfire sounds i knew it wasn't just a bomb. it was something else. >> he knew he had to protect himself and more than that, he
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knew he was responsible for his younger brother. >> you grabbed your brother as fast as you could. >> yeah, and just ran. >> were you pushing him? >> yes. >> you didn't want him to see anything. that's hard -- that would be hard for me, hard for a grown up. >> yeah. >> at 14, that's pretty darn hard. >> it really is. >> clutching his brother, he raced away from the gunfire with just one thought. >> i just thought ian first, save him, me second. >> when you headed toward the back of the store. >> other people at that time were rushing back, so we followed the crowd. >> they made it to a storeroom at the back. others were hiding there, too, including an american mother with her own kids. without catherine there to comfort them, the boys stayed with that mother. he hoped they were far enough away from the gun toting terrorists, but they weren't.
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surveillance video shows the terrorists made it all the way in the back hunting for more victims. but this wise 14-year-old did something ingenious. >> i finally just pulled ian aside, sat him down behind a thing of flour. there's one by one by one meters of flour on all sides of him. >> kind of like a barricade of flour bags. >> yeah. and we pulled toilet paper on top of us so nobody would see us. >> why would you need to be hidden? >> we didn't know if people were going to be walking back and looking for us, so we just pulled all stops. >> ian remembers how scared he was. >> did you see any of the bad guys? >> no, but i did see someone close the gate to where we where and it seemed like they were going to shoot through it and throw a grenade to blow it up but they never got through. >> you period a lot of loud sounds? >> yeah. >> you said you were back there -- how long? >> three and a half hours. >> you thought about it a little
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bit, yeah. but when you were there, i know if it were me, i would have been really, really scared. were you scared. >> all my brother and me did was pray for our family and just laid there. >> they lay there and listened. >> and every once in a while we'd hear gunfire, grenade sounds and at one point these people came in saying we're the police. it's okay. >> the gunfire the walton boys had been hearing briefly paused and those voices identifying themselves as police were encouraging people to come out. around him he heard people start moving. >> they walked out and then about 15 seconds later you just heard loud machine gunfire for 30 seconds and then it just was quiet. >> do you think it was the bad guys luring them out? >> yes. >> you did the right thing by staying where you were. >> the lady we were with told us what to do and without her i think my brother and i would
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have gone out with that crowd. >> the boys were hold up in that back room when police were able to break down a door and get people out. this security camera shows the chaos in the crowd after being released. look closely. they are free after three and a half hours of being trapped. relief washed over phillip when he saw his boys in the image his friends sent him. at least his sons were okay. >> i remember thinking at that time, at least i won't be alone. you know, i remember thinking, you know, however horrific this day is, at least the boys and i will have each other if it turns out worse than we would hope or imagine. >> his wife, catherine, was still trapped under that tiny table with her three girls and
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welcome back to "dateline." the walton boys had made it out of the westgate mall, which was still a scene of terror, but their mother, katherine, and her three girls were still trapped inside. and then, a man holding a gun approached them. the next moments would be critical. here is kate snow with the conclusion of our story. >> for more than four hours, katherine walton, her girls and the kenyan woman helping them hiding in a hiding space barely bigger than a bathtub, closed off from the outside world, katherine didn't know she was part of a terrorist attack. all she knew were gunman were canvassing the mall stalking everyone. >> you were under that table for hours. at some point you hear something, you see something. >> i think there was a little bit of commotion and the kenyan woman said the cops are here.
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>> but it wasn't the police. it was a kenyan man, the businessman and father of four had received a text message from his brother earlier that morning. >> message was very brief. it just read, at westgate, terrorists, pray for me. >> he bolted to the mall and was stunned by what he saw when he got there. carnage everywhere. he was terrified for his brother, who works for the kenyan intelligence service and had received death threats from al shabaab, the same terror group that was now attacking the mall. security forces were just arriving. and abdul, who is licensed to carry a gun, decided in an instant to join them. they entered the mall from the parking garage on the top floor. abdul's brother was still in the mall and actually not far from katherine walton and her girls
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on the main floor. he was hiding in a bathroom. abdul worked his way down to the main floor, and as he did, his brother managed to escape. >> i reach mid phone to try to call him and i see this message on my screen saying i'm out, i'm safe. please come out. >> but abdul didn't come out, despite the gruesome scene, the blood, the bodies, the smell of smoke and constant gunfire, he decided to stay and help. abdul searched through the mall looking for victims. then he made a discovery that shocked him. >> i look down and i see somebody hiding behind a table. it was a lady. she looked very scared. and i'm thinking, she was right in the mid of the cross fire. >> katherine spotted abdul, too, but sensed he wasn't a threat. >> how did you know they weren't terrorists? >> they weren't carrying the large guns we had seen that the
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terrorists had. >> with just a few words between them, katherine walton and abdul haji quickly coordinated an exit strategy. >> we open fire towards the door just to scare the terrorists away. >> then it was time. >> then we hold fire and then i tell the lady now. and suddenly this young girl appears out of nowhere and i just call to her to run towards me and she starts running. and immediately i'm thinking, what a brave girl. >> when portia got up and ran, did you have a moment where you thought, oh my god. >> i think i realize that it was precarious, but i was also trusting if they were telling us to run, that it was safe. >> for katherine, it was a gigantic leap of faith. after shielding her daughters for four and a half hours, she knew that to save them she would have to let them go. the image of 4-year-old portia running to abdul haji was one no
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one would soon forget. katherine wasn't far behind and they weren't alone. these images show the terror on the faces of others being rescued by the police in those same moments. their desperation to be free. in north carolina, phillip got a phone call from his business partner, eric hersman. >> i got confirmation from eric that he was standing there with them and that they were all safe. >> your whole family. >> yeah. then i broke down and cried. yeah. then it -- then you can let go. then you can just kind of collapse. >> later, a picture followed. his wife and children trapped in that mall for hours in terror were now in the safety of a friend's house, together. >> simply the most precious thing i could even imagine to see all of them sitting there in safety and knowing that they had come through it.
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>> phillip grabbed the first flight back to kenya. >> must have felt really good when he got off the plane. >> it was very good because you know as a mom when dad is not around, you feel like you have to keep it together and you've got to be strong. and the kids were very excited to see him. they had been asking. they were relieved to finally be able to touch him and hug him and have that extra security. >> these images showed the devastation and destruction of the westgate mall, ravaged by a siege that dragged on for four days. terrorists with links to al qaeda claimed responsibility. and the kenyan government said at least 67 people died. for the survivors, it was difficult to make sense of it all, to move on. this woman went home, hugged her husband and two days after the attack there was cause for celebration and time for reflection. >> i'm grateful first for being alive, for our children being
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alive. i'm grateful to be reunited with my husband. i never thought i would see our second anniversary, but we did. this incident has actually brought us more closer. we now don't want to leave each other's sights. >> faith and her children were reunited with that police officer who reached out to her on that terrible day, grateful he risked his life to save their's. >> i remember that sound. >> the waltons, too, said they were grateful for friends, new and old, especially young portia who beamed when we showed her a picture of her rescuer on a smart phone. >> is that mr. haji? what did he do? >> he saves us. >> he saved you. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> nice to see you again. >> three days after the worst day of their lives the waltons were reunited with their hero. >> hey, brother.
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how are you? >> abdul is himself a father and a muslim. it's not lost on him that he is forever linked to a christian family who chose to live in kenya. >> and that's what humanity is all act. it happened that i was a muslim and they were christians, but at that time what i was seeing was a little girl and her mother. i was not seeing what religion that person was. >> lots of emotions, but -- >> as we've been able to tell this story and spend time with haji and to see the courage of a man like that, it was an inspiration for me. >> and blez walton said he had a new perspective. >> you've seen the worst of humanity and the best of humanity. >> yeah. same day. just a miracle to be able to live both of those in one day. >> and for katherine and her children, as dismal and as dark as the events in that mall were, she refused to do anything but grow and be positive for herself and her family. >> because i don't want them to
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come out of this and hate or be angry about what happened. >> it would be easy to be angry. >> it would be very easy to be angry. i don't want them to see the bad part of it. i want them to come, turn that bad situation, into something positive. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. good morning. i'm dara brown in new york. it's 7:00 a.m. in the east, 4:00 a.m. out west and here's what's happening. new twists -- the president's latest tweets raising questions what did he know and when did he know it at the time he fired michael flynn? i was in washington, d.c. watching in an incredible way the biggest act of thievery in the modern history of this
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