tv Lockup Sacramento Extended Stay MSNBC December 10, 2017 9:00pm-10:01pm PST
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is know thy self and discover thaiself. we're all trying to figure out if we're living this life fully but also if we're living it meaningfully. >> that's the way it works. that's the way art's supposed to work. deputies respond to a possible gang beating inside a cell. but outside the view of surveillance cameras. >> it appears there's a physical altercation that's transpiring at this time. you can see the bodies jerking back and forth. >> the inmates say it was nothing. >> it was just rough housing, that's all. >> that's for children.
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you're in an adult facility. >> but one sergeant isn't so sure. >> we know that these individuals are gang members. this may have been a new recruit to this gang getting jumped in. >> a wounded warrior now faces a whole new battle. >> they said i stabbed one guy ten times. >> stop at the red line. turn and face the wall. >> arrested with him is his girlfriend. but will jail tear them apart? >> it feels like his lawyers are trying to put it on me.
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>> just one mile from the state capitol building in sacramento, california, it could be mistaken for just another office, instead of open cubicles, you'll only find locked cells inside the main branch of the sacramento county jail system. of the 2,000 men and women incarcerated here, about 60% are only charged with crimes. and are awaiting trial at the resolution of their cases. the downtown branch is one of two jails run by the sacramento county sheriffs office. it's also the primary booking facility where officers from 13 different law enforcement agencies bring new arrestees. >> turn right, face the wall. >> probably every day, we process between 100 to 200 bodies coming through here a day. >> leave your hands by your side. >> i prefer working on the booking area. it's unpredictable. we have every walk of life come through here every day. >> the two newest arrivals, ryan
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sobol and his girlfriend ariel potter. >> miss potter. >> their arrests are the result of a dispute they say was with potter's ex-boyfriend following an exchange of angry text messages. sobel said he and potter arranged to meet the ex-boyfriend in person to work it out. but were attacked by him and four of his friends. >> i ended up grabbing a knife that the guy had. and they were all jumping on me and in self-defense, you know, start swinging both of my arms and i had a knife in my hand. >> there's so much going on. i don't even know when this knife thing even happened. but there's blood all over the place. >> you turn right here. take a seat on the bench. >> they said i stabbed one guy ten times. and it was just such chaos. it was like a four-minute brawl. and then we got out of there.
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>> he has a big black eye and his pinkie is cut down to the bone twice. they called the cops saying my boyfriend was the one that brought the knife when it was actually them that brought the knife. >> sobel and potter admit to fleeing the scene after the fight. but the others immediately called police. none of them was placed under arrest and according to police reports two of them suffered stab wounds and were transported to the hospital. >> did you guys ever call the cops after this incident? >> no. >> why not? >> i don't know. i think he was scared that this was going to happen. i think he was scared that we were going to get arrested, so he didn't call. >> stand right here, face the computer. keep your left hand by your side. >> police searched the area and arrested the couple a few hours later. they have yet to receive their official charges from the arresting officers. >> sometimes when people get booked into the jail, there's an investigation that goes on beforehand. throughout the investigation if the officers aren't sure exactly what they're going to charge
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them for, they're not going to tell them that they're going to charge them with one thing because sometimes things change through the course of the investigation. >> can you tell me what my charges are? >> yeah. i'll tell you about that. >> potter once spent a night in jail on conviction for writing bad checks. but this is sobel's first time in. >> put your hand there. >> what's wrong with your hand? >> it's all the way down to the bone. >> what's that? >> there's two knife cuts all the way to the bone. >> he's been a perfect citizen. this is the first time he's ever been here. he's actually a veteran. >> sobel is not only a veteran, he's a purple heart recipient. he was in the army for two and a half years when he was nearly killed bay roadside bomb in afghanistan. >> they rebuilt my entire mouth and everything. it's all fake. still getting surgeries. i'm 100% disabled from the military. permanently. i'm now retired.
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>> now sobel has a new trauma to deal with. his charges have just come through and they're serious. >> these are your charges. looking at intent to murder. assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. >> what? >> okay? because of the charges, don't have a bail release, you're going to stay here for two days. see a judge for arraignment. they'll tell you if you can bail out or be held for trial, okay? understand? >> attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. what happens? what did i do? i don't even know what i do. i'm not this person. attempted murder?
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are you [ bleep ] kidding me? i just don't get it. am i allowed to know what ariel's charges are? i mean, are they going to be the same as mine because she was there? >> she hasn't been fully booked yet. we'll find them out shortly. >> am i allowed to know that? >> no. >> this is your paperwork. come on over here. first open door on your right. >> attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and conspiracy. >> when you get arrested, the detectives or the investigators, whoever is working that case, determine whether or not there's probable cause that crime was committed. they've obviously determined that because that's why you're here. now all that information, all the facts that they have collected, goes over to the d.a.'s office and now the d.a.'s office decides whether they're going to formally press charges against you for these charges. if they do, then you'll be arraigned before a judge. if they decide there's not
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enough evidence in this case, then they may drop the charges. >> what's the next step? >> so right now, now that you've been booked, you're going to be dressed in. they're going to take your clothes, give you the jail clothes, take you up to the seventh floor. where you'll be classified. you'll stay up there. they'll give you a cell, a bed and you'll see a judge and formally formally arraigned within the next 4 to 72 hours. >> step into this open door. right here. all the way to the window on the right. take off all your clothes. put everything in the brown bag. shoes, socks, underwear, everything, please. >> completely naked, everything in the bag. >> take one hand and -- turn around. put your right foot so i can see the bottom of it. left foot please. spread your feet wide apart. reach back and pull your bull
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cheeks apart. cough hard twice. turn around. get dressed. >> bend forward at your waist, reach behind you, pull your butt cheeks apart, cough hard three times. >> what's it like wearing this uniform? >> it's horrible. i don't want it on my body. everybody staring at me in the [ bleep ] windows like they want to [ bleep ] kick my ass or something. >> what do you mean? >> like the mexicans and the [ bleep ] over there. >> like a football and then take your hands in the waistband at the front. >> go down to the yellow line. >> stop at the red line. turn and face the wall. >> okay. right now you're standing in the position of safety. if a fight were to break out, this you need to assume your position. >> if a fight breaks out, we'll assume you're part of the problem unless you stand like this.
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>> okay. >> if you walk by me and think you want to fight us, we'll deal with you accordingly. turn to your left. >> turn to your left. walk down the yellow line, follow the yellow line all the way down. all the way to the back of the elevator. stay facing the back wall. correct. turn back. stay facing the back wall. >> do you want to eat dinner? >> here you go. here's your tray. >> take my hands up? >> face that wall. >> straight down the hallway here. grab two blankets. >> with both hands? >> two blankets. that's fine. >> you're in 12. >> 200 bond you're in cell 8.
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>> go ahead and step in there. with they'll come and talk to you in a few minutes. >> thank you, guys. >> yep. >> the inmates are given a temporary housing location until they talk to classification officers. through the classification process is you know how we find out if people need to be separated from the general population, if they have any gang issues, if they have any enemies or if they have any psychiatric issues and they house them appropriately after that. for inmates sobel and potter, it doesn't seem like they have any housing restrictions or keep them separated from the general population chances are they'll likely be housed by tomorrow morning. coming up -- >> apparently i wasn't as clean as i thought i was. >> brian sobel is assigned a cell and a cellmate. >> his little cell is his domain. something doesn't go his way, he doesn't appreciate that.
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the downtown branch at the sacramento county jail system is its own gang investigation unit. it exists to keep pace with the ever-growing networks of gang-affiliated inmates. deputy gaming is assigned to the unit. >> we do have quite a few of gang members in sacramento county jail. a lot of it now has to do with the hood you're from or the area that you're from. it's not always as easy to identify who's on the same team or who gets along. obviously we kind of have to try to keep our finger on the pulse as much as we can. >> officers have just responded to a ruckus between four known gang members.
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since it occurred inside a cell, the surveillance footage only tells part of the story. >> it appeared that a fight was going on. we don't have cameras in the cells. we have the cameras inside the housing units to insure what's going on. but inside the cells, they have an emergency button that they can press if they're under duress and we'll respond to assist in any capacity needed. in some cases all you can hear is just the yelling because no one can push that button. so we have to respond as well. >> the four inmates involved are restrained and separated. it's now up to sergeant hufferd and other deputies to find out what happened. >> a look a little red and scuffed up to be horse playing. did this turn into more of a wrestling match? >> no. >> what was happening that the officer from the tower would have thought that a fight was
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going on? would it just have been hugging or? >> they see the black males dressed all together they say it's a fight. >> your eye is a little bit red. are you okay? did you get poked in the eye? >> i just got out of the shower. >> you just got one eye that's red. >> that's not nothing. >> i want to make sure you're not scratched in the eye. >> you're in a jail, rough-housing, that's for children. you're in an adult facility. >> i'm sorry as a man from another man. >> we'll get back to you in a minute, okay? >> all right. >> it sounds like at least the two from different cells went in to another cell. and you can see why that's a rule. i mean, obviously, when you're going into another man's dwelling, problems happen. and sometimes it's under the ruse of being a friend. that they go into these cells and obviously that's a bad recipe. bad things can happen. >> jonathan darling and dejohn
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houston are the two men that ran into the cell. but they say it wasn't to harm anyone. >> it was all good. a little police brutality. >> playing, a little rough housing, you feel me, a little workout. you feel me? for real. >> over in another housing unit, ryan sobel is struggling to adjust to his new living situation. it's been 48 hours since he and his girlfriend, ariel potter, were arrested and charged with attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. both have since been arraigned and pled not guilty to all charges. potter has declined any further interviews. sobel has been assigned to a two-man cell in a general population housing unit. if found guilty the charges carry the possibility of a life sentence. >> i haven't slept for two days. just really difficult for me to
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understand. you know, i broke down really quickly and you know, it's a scary time of my life. >> phone calls are actually $4 a call, pretty crazy. i've had a very comfortable sealy posturepedic at home waiting for me. this is by far not even close to it. i think my dog has a better bed than this. >> sobel shares a cell with jerry guillone. who agreed to appear on camera, but declined to speak. but sobel said guillone had plenty to say to him off-camera. >> his little cell is his domain. if something doesn't go his way, he doesn't appreciate that. apparently i wasn't as clean as i thought i was. just the type of ways that he makes you do things. flushing the toilet every time
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you go to the bathroom for the smell and then after every time you press for water, wipe it down with a rag. i mean, kind of weird things like that, you know. rules of the room. mandatory. >> does that scare you? >> absolutely. absolutely it does. i'm here by myself. i'm not this type of person. coming up -- >> talibans kick ass. it pisses me off. i have seen the worst by these people. >> ryan sobel finds more to not like about jail. and -- >> three inmates just entered that cell, appeared to shove another one into the cell. here comes another one that's going into the cell. >> sergeant hufferd turns to the video. in order to find answers. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free. it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth.
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just a mile away, another purple heart recipient is attempting to adjust to life inside the sacramento county jail. ryan sobel has been moved into new cell because he was having problems with his first cellie. now the wounded afghan war vet finds old graffiti in his new cell adds insult to injury. >> talibans kick ass. it pisses me off because i have seen the worst and been through the worst, you know, myself. by these people. >> sobel says his unit was attacked by taliban fighters on their way to base from a nearby village. >> at the time we had three humvees, i happened to be in the lead humvee. for mission i was drying and ended up hitting a roadside bomb at the bridge. about half of the vehicle disintegrated. we were pinned down for about three, three and a half hours i want to say. and we had blackhawk helicopter that ended up medivacing me out.
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i ended up having retinal detachment, my ear drums were completely blown. i ended up having surgery on my head twice, both of my clavicles were snapped. i had traumatic brain injury. i was in a hospital bed at that time. i was heavily scarred and everything. i was given the purple heart. i don't even remember, i've seen the picture of my colonel putting it on my chest. >> sobel was honorably discharged due to his many injuries. but now he faces charges of attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. according to police, he allegedly stabbed two men in a brawl. involving his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. >> dinner was gross today, man. you know that, right? >> uh-huh. >> lima beans, pumpkin pudding. >> a bit of good news for sobel is that he's getting along with his new cellmate, spencer asher. >> my cellmate, i've got him to join the military when he gets out. he wants to change himself. i told him it's a perfect place
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to start. you know? recruiters will work with you to expunge certain things on your record and get you to be a squared-away citizen of the united states. >> can't wait to get up out of here and join the army. the army will do me good. i'm tired of coming back here, it sucks. >> asher has given sobel advice as well. he's shown him a way to skirt jail rules in order to communicate with his girlfriend and co-defendant ariel potter. >> we've come one a briefcase type situation here. it's an actual grocery bag cut in half and filed down a toothpaste tube and tied a piece of string on the other side of it. and on the other side is the screw. which fastens in and tightens down the string. it's basically like you're regular manila envelope and i made her a card and drew the cover for me.
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i put in her favorite candy and tomorrow our court date is, try to give it to one of the deputies down there. saying that she forgot it in the courtroom and hopefully it gets into her hands. if not -- it is what it is. coming up -- >> when i first got in here i was having extreme panic attacks and anxiety attacks and i couldn't breathe. >> ariel potter decides to speak again and jonathan darling sheds light on what really happened in that cell. on a fluke. and he totally has a super-power. didn't know i was allergic to ibuprofen. and i had fallen asleep... (scrappy barks) (amanda) he was totally freaked out, digging and pawing at me. and when i woke up i realized that i was in anaphylaxis and went to the emergency room. i don't know what i would do if he wasn't there. he's the best boy. (vo) through the subaru share the love event, we've helped the ascpa save nearly forty thousand animals so far. get a new subaru and we'll donate two hundred fifty dollars more to help those in need. (amanda) ♪ put a little love in your heart. ♪
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disarmament. now back to "lockup." sacramento county's downtown jail is also known as the main jail. 20 miles to the south, in the heart of one of the most agriculturally productive regions in the world is another jail. the correctional center is considered sacramento county's second or branch jail. unlike other jails where the majority of inmates are only charged with crimes, awaiting trial, the majority of the 1,900 men and women here are already convicted and serving sentences. >> this is not a place to be, children. this is what we do here every day. >> every day.
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>> this is due in part to a california law passed in 2011, designed to give relief to the state's once dangerously overcrowded prison system. now thousands of inmates who would normally have gone to prison are diverted to county jails like rio kasumnas. >> what you got? >> at the center of this 140-acre facility is a 50-foot-tall security and control tower. >> the tower supervises the entire facility. you have a 360-degree view. of the fence line surrounding our facility. we have one deputy up there at a time. staffed 24/7. >> our job is to sit up here and with the binocular check the fences, make sure nobody is trying to escape. if somebody is near a fence, we have a lot of programs that they're out there cutting the grass, make sure they're within the perimeter. we're monitoring the cameras,
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24/7. at the same time you're hearing the beeps of the gates that need to be open. you need to go to your control board, open the gates and throughout the day we have yards that are open so that's hundreds of inmates out and about. i'm only the one that can see where they're at. i have to be looking around. they'll call me on the radio. the courts come in, buses going. there's a lot of stuff going on. >> rio kasumas also houses overflow inmates from the main jail downtown and a bus carrying a group of transfers has just entered the gates. >> turn right. go in between the car and the bus. in between the car and the bus. >> among the new arrivals is ryan sobel. >> everything was going fantastic. i got my first visit from my parents on saturday. got my commissary bag and loving life, as much as i could be. and 3:45 a.m. got called and said to pack my stuff, going to the branch here. and kind of a shock. didn't know what to do. really. >> housing at the main jail, they're usually at capacity. almost all the time.
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so after arraignments, they'll oftentimes send large busloads of inmates still pretrial down here. >> sobel, along with his girlfriend and co-defendant ariel potter, had recently appeared in court for a bail hearing on their charges, which included attempted murder and carry the possibility of a life sentence if found guilty. bail was denied to both of them. but sobel was able to execute his plan to send an envelope containing a home-made card and candy to potter. >> prior to me going into the room i acted like she dropped it and i gave it to one of the deputies and the next thing i knew the deputy that i gave it to didn't have it any more. so either he threw it away or he gave it to her. >> he says his attorney will appeal the bail decision. but for now sobel is placed in a maximum-security housing unit due to the violent nature of his charges. ♪
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back at the main jail downtown, sergeant hufferd has reviewed the surveillance footage of a possibly gang-related brawl. he dust ferm -- he must determine if this was good-natured rough-housing or something more sinister. >> the gentleman in the white t-shirt, you see him looking back and forth. three inmates just entered that cell, appeared to shove another one into the cell. here comes another one going into the cell. it appears there's a physical altercation that's transpired at this time. you can see the bodies jerking back and forth. obviously there's something going on that brings the attention of everybody in that housing unit. all the parties involved say they're just playing. we didn't have any physical evidence of any injuries. we didn't have anybody willing to complain they were assaulted. so truly we have to have a victim in order to act on their behalf. in this particular case, none of the parties involved were willing to do that.
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so we do have in-house facility rules. these inmates were subsequently charged with horse-playing, rough-housing and entering a cell they're not assigned to. >> the four inmates involved have received three days of sanctions. including more time in their cells and suspension of visitation and commissary privileges. but sergeant hufferd says deputies will keep a close eye on them. >> we know these individuals are gang members. part of the problem with being in a correctional facility is it can be a breeding ground for finding new recruits. in this particular case it appears that this may have been a new recruit to this gang getting jumped in. they're trying to inform us that no, they're just friends, we're just playing. you know? it's all a joke. obviously it's not a joke to us. if somebody gets hurt recruiting other gang members, these are all valid concerns for the safety of everyone in this facility and the integrity of the jail itself.
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>> allegedly i'm affiliated with the stars, allegedly. >> jonathan darling, one of the inmates who entered the cell, now says there was more to the situation than horseplay. but it wasn't gang-related. >> if you're in your room and someone yell your name out over the tier and talking [ bleep ], you don't want that. people talking [ bleep ] over your name, so you got to defend your name. >> more of the same? >> i came out with out my shirt and he said i was [ bleep ] small. i told him, i can show you small. >> that's what made you go in there? >> that's what made me go in there and i had a big ah. i mean, they were probably joking around but i don't take that [ bleep ] too kindly. >> darling has been incarcerated for the last three and a half years. at age 15 he was charged with assault on a person with a semiautomatic firearm and discharging a firearm. at an inhabited dwelling.
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darling pled not guilty and began fighting his case from juvenile hall and was transferred to the adult jail upon turning 18. he said the reason the case is taking so long is because he refuses to accept a plea deal from prosecutors. >> right now the deal that's on the table is 11 years 8 months. >> and you're not interested in taking an 11-year deal? >> hell no. >> darling said he played high school basketball at the time of his arrest and dreamt of going much further. >> what position? >> point guard. >> point guard? >> i got kicked off -- >> yeah? >> they found weed in your locker. >> they found weed in your locker? how did that work out for you? >> it didn't work out pretty good. >> it ended your basketball career quickly. >> i didn't make it to one game. >> stay with it. >> all right. >> all right. >> see you later, sergeant. >> while most young men who aspire to be professional athletes lack the talent, darling shows he may have actually had the skills.
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>> not ready for this. >> you can't do it. woo! that's luck. >> is there a future possibility for to you play basketball? >> no, no future possibility of me. i got a serious billing on my record. you can't be a basketball star with a record. and be in the streets at the same time. that's not going to work out. >> okay. coming up, ryan sobel runs into more trouble. >> last night some black guy from upstairs threatened me and took my dinner tray right in front of me. nacho? [ train whistle blows ] what?! -stop it! -mm-hmm. we've been saving a lot of money ever since we switched to progressive.
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at the rio sasumas branch of the sacramento county jail system, it has been less than 48 hours since ryan sobel was transferred to one of the maximum security housing units here. he will soon be on the move again. >> 7:30 in the morning. i walked in there. they started asking questions and i had to show them paperwork, which is your charges and one of the guys came in and threatened me. and last night, some black guy from upstairs turned around and threatened me, took my dinner tray right in front of me. i don't want the confrontation. >> when we got there this morning, i felt a lot of tension with the individuals out and about. i could tell that things obviously weren't right. and he would definitely not be returning to that pod. we're going to find a different housing area where he's not going to have the same issues.
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>> as sobel waits in a holding area for his new housing assignment, he and deputy discover something in common. combat tours in afghanistan and the possibility that they could have even crossed paths when sobel was badly injured by a roadside bomb. >> 35 miles an hour and back half of the humvee, we were going over a bridge. >> i got a platoon that was based medivac'd out of and then my platoon was based of bagram and we would pick guys up at j bad if you got blown up or whatever and fly them to badr and get them out. it was in july of '08. >> yup. >> that was probably my unit. >> that's so crazy. such a small world. >> it's always interesting to talk to somebody who was in the same area at the same time. especially someone who suffered injuries.
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that's what i was doing when i was there, crewing medevac helicopters. guys who have been through a lotle, i have a soft spot for. try to help him out best as i can. >> a short time later, classification officers have found a new housing assignment for sobel. >> we have an area for individuals who don't need protective custody. but might not have as much experience with criminals and the criminal lifestyle. based on what he said and the research we've done, i think he would be a good fit for that spot. grab all of your stuff. >> okay. >> you can take 17. it's only got two other partners. >> perfect. thank you.
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>> i thought i was going to be a little bit quieter but it is what it is. how you doing, man? >> ryan. >> ryan? >> yeah. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> aj. >> aj? >> why. >> nice. >> the new cell is designed for 12 men. but is currently housing three. >> if you need anything, just ask. >> i appreciate it. thank you man. >> we're very respectful in here and we want cool, peaceful environment. if you want the tv off early, we'll come to an agreement and make it so if it fits everybody's schedule and criteria. you have to be respectful in here. otherwise we'll get trouble your way. >> in case there's any forgetting, sobel's cellmates have the rules taped to the wall with special emphasis on the last one.
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20 miles away. it's sacramento county's downtown jail. inmates make their way to and from the adjoining courthouse. a few days earlier, sobel was here for a bail hearing with his co-defendant and girlfriend, ariel potter. he attempted to get an envelope to her by pretending she dropped it and handing it to a deputy to give to her. >> i'm going to try to give it to one of the deputies down there, saying she forgot it in the courtroom and hopefully it gets into her hands. >> not only did the deputy leave it behind, it's just been discovered by another. >> i think it's female's property item. it's a a paper bag, report down her name and location. but it turns out to be some kind of card. i don't know if she was trying to pass it off maybe to her boyfriend or husband or whatever this was from last week and she hasn't come down. i don't know if she's out of custody. a very good possibility. she came down, she wants it, we'll give it back.
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but once it stays too long, it ends up in the trash can. >> soon after we met her, potter declined to speak any further on camera as she tried to adjust to her new surroundings. now several weeks later, she's changed her mind. >> when i first got in here i was having extreme panic attacks and anxiety attacks, and i couldn't breathe. it was scarey. i cried all the time. i thought i was going to be out within a couple weeks. i still am kind of confused about a lot of things and it sucks being in the dark and not knowing what's going to happen. waiting for court date to court date. living on that week to week. it's difficult. it really is. >> what do you think about him? >> ryan, honestly. i think about him a lot and then think about what i could have done differently that night. >> what could you have done differently that night?
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>> we shouldn't have gone. we should have been the bigger people and just ignored it and just didn't go. >> potter and sobel were arrested several hours following a violent confrontation with her ex-boyfriend and some others. two of the people they fought with suffered stab wounds, allegedly inflicted by sobel. now the couple only sees each other from a distance during court hearings. >> have you tried to pass any messages to him? >> i'm in the trying to get in trouble. i mean, it's pretty simple. self-explanatory. do this, you don't do that. all we get to do is say i love you through the cell holding doors and that's it. >> i love you, ariel. >> love you. coming up -- >> they give me five days in the hole with everything taken from me. which was a definite experience. >> ryan sobel's week starts badly. then it gets worse. rty did what?
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at sacramento's county correctional center, a new cell with friendlier inmates seem like a ray of sunshine for purple heart recipient ryan sobel. it has been all downhill from there. >> they gave me five days in the hole with everything taken from me. which was a definite experience. kind of brought me back to the movie "cool hand luke." >> sobel was given five days in segregation, locked in a single man cell 23 hours a day with loss of privileges for attempting to send a letter to his girlfriend. >> the letter was written to her grandparents. i just put a note in there saying, hey, can you reroute this to her address? i thought that was okay. the letter i had written telling her to stay strong and i loved her also said that i will see
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her at the next court date. >> unless an inmate is given specific authorization, they aren't allowed to write other inmates in this facility. in looking into the inmate mail, deputies are looking for anything that causes safety concerns. other issues might be they're talking to a codefendant about their case or coming up with an al buy or something that may affect their case. >> the violation cost him his place in the housing unit where he was assigned for safety. he is now back in maximum security. >> i'm back here where i originally was, where i originally had issues. on a different pod across the way and still see the people that i had issues with but they really can't do anything. i mean, i guess. >> sobel no longer has 24-hour access to the phone or the television. he shares a cell with kevin stern who has been in and out of both jail and prison for the past nine years. >> how far did you get into your book? >> like 40 pages. >> 40?
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seriously? that's like three weeks for me. >> you are a slow reader. >> dang. 40 pages? seriously? >> i mean, from the way he walked to the way he talked to everybody coming in here, you know, people asking what are you here for? he's telling them. you don't nornlly disclose that. don't talk to anybody about what you're here for. you don't talk about your case. he tends to speak without thinking. we go through that every day. i'm like don't say that. >> stern played the role preparing him for the possibility of spending years in a level four maximum security state prison. should he be found guilty of his charges. >> i'm not educated. all my concerns are going towards what kevin is teaching me. and that's what i'm concentrating on right now. there is something new that is going to develop. you know? someone has a different screw loose in their head that has a
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different opinion. dealing with animals and they all make the wrong decisions in life and have had. for their entire life. and that's why they're in here. that's why kevin and i are on the same level in terms of politics. we don't want to deal with that. he is there to remind me and baby-sit me and teach me. me personally, i don't feel confident, you know, yet going to that next level. because with my case if convicted, i'm automatically a level four inmate. it scares me. >> sobel can also use a mentor in jail because it is unlikely he will be leaving soon. he's just had another bail hearing. the good news -- bail was finally granted. the bad news was the amount. >> attempted murder i believe is $500,000 and assault with a deadly weapon i think combined with conspiracy is another $500,000. so i was given $1 million bail. >> sobel hoped that being a wounded yvette ran and purple
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heart recipient would serve in his favor. >> the d.a. thanked me for my service and said i am a menace and a threat to society. a possible flight risk because of the higher up training that i have. i wanted to tell him that that has nothing to do with anything that's going on. i swore an oath to safe this country. to keep him from wearing the suits five days a week and watching david letterman at night. he should be thankful for that and for him to try to incriminate me because of that, i don't know. it was disheartening. >> sobel was defended by a private attorney and at least eligible for bail. ariel potter who is represented by a public defender is yet to be granted any bail amount. >> i am confused. it feels like his lawyers are trying to put it on me. and so, it's scary that this is going to all come on me and, i
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mean, i want ryan out. like, i do. so if me being in here, that's what's has to happen, i would rather have him out. >> why? >> i don't know. i love him. i don't want to see him in jail. >> soebl places at least some blame for their troubles on potter. >> i'm 100% disabled with the military. whether we're guilty or not guilty, her and myself put myself in harm's way. it could have been very easily made my health worse. she should have been there as my caregiver, caretaker to help and support me. you know? make those right decisions that night. >> i still feel as strong towards him as i ever have. i don't feel like it will hurt our relationship. and i know that he still loves me as much as i love him.
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>> i had a lot of things that i liked. five bedroom house to a brand-new car to a brand-new boat to a loving girlfriend and dogs. i mean, i guess you can say that's the american dream. but it got washed away in a matter of a month. i lost my house and my dog. everything. >> it sucks being able to look out your window and see the train station. i wish i was getting on that going somewhere else.
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♪ local gang rivalries fueled by rap videos result in violence in the streets and difficult challenges for the jail. >> the gang problem inside of our facility is extremely taxing on resources and our ability to effectively keep them segregated. just more and more folks that don't get along. >> one alleged gang leader is
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