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i will be back next sunday for i'm natalie morales. these kids think they are trying to out for a new pop culture quiz show. >> you think we are supposed to be talking. >> these kids want a spot on a new ultimate challenge show. >> 18, 19. >> they have no idea we're the ones testing them. >> why don't we just put 20. tonight see if they'll cheat. >> does anybody know who billy thorn is? >> while our cameras and their parents watch. >> oh, my gosh. >> would your child give into temptation? >> changed his answer. >> you like that. >> we will tell you what you might be doing wrong. >> i'm a little disappointed, actually. >> and show you how to do it right. >> i want you to be a strong person and really stand up for
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yourself. >> please, put away your phone. >> he is doing what i taught him to do. >> put away your phone. >> natalie morales with my kid would never do that. thanks for joining us, i'm lester holt. we all want our kids to shine in school and on the playing field and so do they, but how do we make sure they do well on their own and not by cheating? natalie morales joins us now with important information as we take a look at the hidden life of your children. natalie? >> everyone knows the key to success is hard work. unfortunately, as some kids discover, cheating is easier, but there are things you can do >> i see it every day every class. >> you turn to the left and look at the other kid's paper. >> everyone cheats at one time or another. >> it's an open secret in just before he american school. >> i'm up all night studying and
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they're cheating it make mess feel as if my hard work is for nothing. >> experts call it an epidemic. students stay is an art. >> try to be a better cheater than a better student. >> i have seen girls write in the slits of their skirt. >> put little pieces of paper for answers in their boots. >> write on the inside of water bottles. >> most clever form of cheating i have ever seen is kids using american sign language. >> if the teacher is oblivious, you can simply just look at a friend and be like, what's number three? >> reporter: techniques may change but cheating has been around as long as teachers have been giving tests. >> when you're really given a conflict, what are you gonna do? >> you know, some of are you in high school. >> reporter: ross lind wiseman is an expert in teen dynamics and the author of "owning up" a school-based curriculum that teach ethics. while some may think cheat sag victimless crime, she tells kids what's really at stake. >> if you cheat, at a certain point, your knowledge or lack of knowledge or lack of ability is
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going to come forward. and not only will you be punish bud people will think you are a fraud. >> did you cheat on the s.a.t.s? >> reporter: that's what happened last fall in a new york suburb when teens in top high schools were arrested for cheating on the s.a.t. >> the bottom line is however you look at it, it's very prevalent. >> reporter: eric anderman is a professor of educational psychology at ohio state university. he has analyzed 50 years of data on cheating trends and says that by the time students graduate from high school today, 80 to 85% of them have cheated at least once. >> not everyone, but most are doing something that most of us would consider an act of cheat egg. >> do you think parents are aware of how extensive cheating is? >> no. i really don't. i think most of us think that
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our sons or daughters wouldn't do that. >> so, while we would all like to think my kid would never cheat, your bea to meet some brave parents who are actually willing to find out. all of them say they talk about honesty at home, but is the message getting through? tonight, we will watch to see if their kids can resist the bad behavior that's all around. with our hidden cameras rolling, we will put cheating to the test. when confronted with the chance to fudge a score -- >> just put 29. >> or cheat on a quiz. >> number six, i think it's c. do you think it's c? >> what will these good kids do? >> you have cheated so much. >> oh, well. >> and will anyone tell the truth about it later? >> so everything is totally -- that's your honest times and honest scores? we start in a middle school gym to find out what these kids will do about cheating in sports. they're here to audition for an ultimate challenge tv show for kids, at least that's what they think.
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>> hi, my name is brianna. >> hi, i'm natasha. >> hi, my name is anthony. >> we will run them through a series of physical challenges. >> this way, follow me. >> led by a personal trainer who will emphasize that they need to do well or they're out. >> if you cannot do better than 30 seconds, you're probably not gonna make it. >> what they don't know is we've rigged the gym with hidden cameras and planted an actress in the group to cheat. >> hi, my name is lauren. >> despite what we've heard about how common cheating is, this dad is confident his son, anthony, would never do it. >> he is a good student. he is very athletic. he is very competitive. >> does he play by the rules? >> 100%. he plays by the rules and i think today, he will get upset if he finds someone cheat egg. >> brianna's mom says her daughter has a strong moral compass. >> she does struggle with peer pressure a lot, like most children her age. >> peer pressure situation where perhaps others are goading her to cheat, how do you think she may respond?
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>> i don't see her cheating 'cause she has too much of a guilty conscience, i think. >> and natasha's mom says her daughter is not likely to be pushed around. >> you think that she will allow someone to make her lie or cheat. that's my gut instinct. so, if i find out otherwise, i will be very surprised. >> you getting nervous? >> we will be watching on monitors in a room not far away. what will these kids do when they think no one is looking. >> not watching. i'm putting 19. >> when we come back, the moment of truth for the kids. >> no. >> and the parents. >> god, the pressure. >> when my kid would never do that continues. ♪ oh, look... another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week.
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hidden cameras are rolling as these parents watch to see if their kids would be tempted to cheat. middle schoolers think they are competing for a spot on an ultimate challenge show for kids. cheating researcher eric
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anderman says having something big at stake is what motivates some kids to bend the rules. it is really what's carrot at the end of the stick? what's the incentive? if the incentive is big enough for them, then them cheat. >> something like being cast on a tv show, probably enough of a carrot there as incentive? >> absolutely. >> the kids don't know we've hired an actress to cheat for the group. our coach explains the competition. the whole group has to race through the obstacle course as fast as possible, then record their times on the board. the best score will be the lowest. >> i will take the best score out of those times and is the score i will give you. >> and there are two important rules, don't knock over the hurdles -- >> you knock over a hurdle, you need to start all over. >> and no hands to go faster on the scooters. >> and you do not use your hands. >> the coach puts our actress, lauren, the cheater in charge of
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the clock, then leaves the group alone. >> i'm working on the honor system here because they need me with the other kids. >> go. >> on the first run through. >> go. >> everyone follows the rules. >> when natasha knocks over a hurdle -- >> how do i put that back up? >> start over. start over. >> she fixes it and starts again. >> go back, go back, go back. >> but the next time through the obstacle course, our actress encourages everyone to go faster by using their hands on the scooters. in other words, cheat. >> your hands a little bit, just like -- >> brianna object he is. >> no. >> telling her to use her hands, she is like no, no. >> the group finishes the obstacle course in 33 seconds but our cheater wants to lie and write down a faster time. >> how about we just put 29? >> brianna speaks up again, trying to keep the group honest. >> no. >> come on. one second. >> you think that's -- i'm not going to be the party popper. >> god, the pressure. >> now our actor goes around to the other side of the board and
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finds some fake scores we've planted from a competing team. >> guys, team a's scores are on the back. >> what? got to be kidding me. >> 20? >> we got to step it up. >> with he got to step it up. >> this group thinks the other team did the course much faster so our cheater goes ahead and lies about their time, writing down 29 instead of 33. but as his father predicted, anthony won't let her do it. >> no, no, no, 33. >> in fact, he stops the cheating by erasion the false time and writing the correct one. 33 seconds. >> oh, no the thing was 33. >> so far so good. >> let's go >> but the competition isn't over yet. another run through the obstacle course and natasha again knocks over a hurdle, a clear no no. this time, when our cheater tells her to ignore the rules and keep going -- >> keep going, keep going. >> forgot to reset it? >> to her mother's surprise, she does.
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>> she kept going. >> oh, no. >> how did you do? >> okay. >> our coach comes back to give them the next test, try do the highest number of jumping jacks in ten seconds. >> jumping jack, how many can you do in ten seconds in good luck [ whistle ] >> once the coach is out of the room. >> three, two, one. >> go. >> our actress, lauren will start boosting the numbers. >> 14, 15, 16. >> natasha does 16. >> i'm going to put 19. they are not watching. i'm putting 19. >> lauren writes down 19. and this time, no one says a word. brianna, who tried stop the cheating earlier doesn't look happy. >> brianna seemed to be frustrated, looked like to me. >> and just like that the cheater has taken control. >> 15, 16, 17. >> this boy does 20 jumping jacks. >> 20 exactly. >> but our actress wants to write down more. no way we are making it. >> anthony stood up to her
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moments earlier, but now -- >> 21ish. >> anthony caves and shah russian as our cheater writes down a false number, 21. the others stay quiet, too. >> okay. did you see what's happening here? they are all, like, agreeing? >> yeah. just going with the flow. >> putting numbers up they snow not the right ones. >> something is going on with him, because he is very quiet. >> how was it? when i go in, they think i'm the host of the fake ultimate challenge show. they tell me the scores are all correct. in fact, they say lauren did a great job as score keeper. >> she was good with that? she got it right every time? >> mm-hmm. >> really? let's fee they stick to that story when they hear this is not an audition. you are going to be on tv, but the show is "dateline" nbc and it is a special report on cheating. and we have cameras throughout the room. your parents have been watching. did you guys actually do 21 jumping jacks?
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>> no 19. >> 19? why did you guys go along with 21? >> peer pressure. >> peer pressure. >> yeah, peer pressure. i was trying to go against her say 19. four out of five people said no let's go up. >> you went with the rest? >> yeah, because we wanted to get on the show. >> brianna tells me while she clearly knew cheating was wrong, speaking up just got too hard. >> i didn't feel like i had a say because the ones it doesn't feel right. >> she struggles with t. >> a story that rosalyn wiseman, who works with teens on ethical issues, have heard before. it is complicated, because she was trying to, it wasn't working, it head her feel like what is the point of speaking out when i'm just going to be overridden? >> here are your parents. >> i want to be n.
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>> i think it important for parents to realize how important group dynamics were. >> did you realize what was going on with the number and everything like that? >> yes. >> so, for these kids and parents, a lesson learned. >> so as a father now, what do you talk to him about when you're driving home today? >> this was peer pressure. it was with five other kids and he just went along with the flow and he didn't put a stop to it and that is something that we need to bring run and talk, 'cause i have two other children. >> we will see. we will see. >> we got another group of parents ready to find out if their kids have what it take to us stand up to the cheater. this time, we meet a mom who makes a surprising prediction? >> you think she is gonna join them in the cheating? >> yeah. yeah. >> will her daughter prove her wrong? coming up -- >> you don't want to be on tv? >> i do, but -- >> miranda's big decision. will she do the right thing? when "dateline" continues.
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we are in a middle school gym rigged with 00 cameras as a group of parents prepare to watch their kids struggle with an ethical dilemma, what will happen when they are given a chance to cheat? >> hi, i'm julia. >> hi, my name is xavier. >> my name is miranda. >> miranda's mother knows how
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powerful peer pressure can be. she says her daughter is the go along to get along type and suspects she just might join the cheaters? >> think miranda might help them do it. >> you think she is going to join in the cheating? >> i love her to death but she is so kind. >> she's people pleaser? >> she wants to make everybody happy. >> the parents of xavier and julia think the opposite, predicting their kids will stand up to the cheaters. >> i'm thinking she is not going to follow the crowd if there is something inappropriate or something she knows i would not approve of. i guess we will find out. >> the kids race lieu the obstacle course the first time they can. the first time through, they do it in 40 seconds. >> i got 40. >> but later, the actress we planted to cheat wants to change the time to 34. >> what the heck? >> right away, miranda speaks up, but not in the way her mom predicted.
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>> i think we should keep it. why? who wants to be on the tv show? >> yeah i do. >> but i want to be truthful about it. >> that's huge, to be able to speak out like that. >> just keep going. >> they do the obstacle course again, this time in 29 seconds. and listen to what miranda says when our cheater writes down 20 instead. >> you don't want to be on tv? >> i do, but like i said, i don't want to be a liar. >> and she is not finished yet. >> 18, 19. >> when miranda puts 19 jumping jacks? >> let put 20. some kid did 19 on the other group. >> not like you can't do t. >> i would rather put 19. >> just saying, you don't want to be on a tv show. >> i will, but not like that. >> what do you mean like that? they won't know. >> i will know and i can't live with the guilt. >> good for her. >> giving that girl a hard time. >> get what you're saying, i'm just going to put 20 and move on. >> no. >> fine, i'm going to put 19. >> thank you.
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>> she is ticked now. >> when the coach comes back and looks at the times on the obstacle course -- >> 20, nice. >> miranda's mom is shocked by what happened. >> what do you mean? >> it wasn't 20. >> miranda is showing you up here? >> she is, very much so. i'm very proud of her. she makes the right decision when times are right. impressed. very impressed. proud of my girl. >> then i tell them why they are really here. we are doing a show on cheating and your parents have been watching, they are actually very proud of you because you guys did call lauren out on the cheating. >> good job. >> miranda, your mom -- a little bit of an apology. >> miranda didn't know her mother was watching today but rosalyn wiseman says that when talking to kids about ethics, it's a good idea to tell them to simply imagine being watched all the time. >> i would think about who is
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the person we respect most in our life and just as we are about to do something we are thinking is it ethical is it not, i don't know. you have that person why your head acting like this camera. fanned that person saw me right now doing that, how did it feel? >> i didn't think you would react that way. i really thought -- >> miranda's mother leaves corrected and proud. and while her daughter did the right thing today, rosalyn says there is more that parents should be talking about with their kids. she says in the real world, standing up for what's right is not always popular. >> what are you going to say to people who might get angry at you because you have come forward and done the right thing? you can't guarantee that people will thank you for that. >> there is no doubt that standing up to cheaters is hard but be harder in the next test. we are leaving the gym to take a test in the library and students tell us that most kids think cheating in school is no big deal. >> people go crazy if people
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cheat on sports but in school, i don't think people really care as much. >> nobody care it is people cheat in school. >> cheating researcher eric anderson. is there a difference between the cheating in sports and cheating in academic you >> there is a difference in terms of what is tolerated. you are a bad sport if you cheat in sports, whereas in a classroom, for some kids you it actually makes them cool to be seen as cheating on academic kinds of things. >> we have hired two new actors to play the cheaters. what will happen when they do this. >> you think it's c? >> i put d. >> did you put d? >> oh, my gosh. >> when we come back, everybody's doing it. or at least it seems that way. >> artie schuster? >> it is artie abrams. >> all right. thank you. >> and after the test, the lessons begin. >> so you are not in trouble, okay? so everyone take a deep breath. ♪
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we have seen how some kids react to cheating in sports, even when it will benefit their own team. >> i would know and i can't live with the guilt. >> now we are in a school library and both experts and kids tell us cheating in school is the norm. >> so many students see it as so prevalent so common, so prolific they don't see it as really a big, big transgression. >> these parents are hoping their kids would never cheat, but are they ready to find out? >> if you are not honest with yourself, you dig yourself a hole. >> i'm so excited. >> sasha's mother says he is a happy go lucky, friendly kid. she says while she rarely discuss cheating they talk about honesty all the time. >> you have to be very honest with not only yourself but your friends and your family. >> so what are your predictions for what might happen today? >> i hope dose the right thing. >> did you see that katy perry dye herd hair blonde?
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>> she remembers what happened in elementary school with a classmate tried copy emma's work. did she tell the cheaters at that time? >> she did. >> she spoke up? >> she did. >> how do you think she will react when cheating starts happening around her? >> i think she will be really stressed, really nervous. >> while gianna's mom thinks her daughter will resist the way to cheat, she is not sure. >> react differently when they are not with their moms. >> thank you so much for coming today. >> asha, gianna and emma think they are heat for a test on pop culture, a dry run, the produce tells them, for a game show nbc is developing. >> we need your help in developing a new show. >> the questions will be about tv shows and music, light-hearted stuff but it's competition that expert says motivates some kids to cheat. the parents are watching as we give the kids their first tax,
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an individual quiz. >> get a sense of how much you know by yourself. >> any student knows that means no talking. hidden cameras are rolling and our producer leaves it is pin-drop silent, until the two actors we have hired to cheat break the rules. >> miles, on number six, i think it's c. do you think it's c? >> i put d. >> did you put d? >> as her mother predicted, emma looks nervous. >> saw her look at the door. >> she did. >> is somebody much with aing? >> but sasha the shows butterfly. >> you watch "glee" right, which someone eight? >> artie schuster. >> it is artie abrams. >> emma, the serious student, tries to get the group to stop talking. but they keep chatting. >> you might be right. hold on the i want to change it now. >> okay.
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so, change it to b. >> and watch what sasha does now. >> oh, my gosh. >> okay, so sasha changed his answer. >> but they were all talking to him, too and comparing. so, not like he was the only one. >> so how did you feel seeing sasha -- >> i don't like that. >> time for their next assignment, a group test. >> you have to collectively decide what you think the answer is. >> we put our actress in charge of writing down the answers they will come up with together. >> kara dioguardi. >> yes. >> now that they are no longer cheating, emma seems to relax. >> prince william got married earlier this year. what is the name of his new wife? >> kate middleton. >> pippa middleton. >> you watched the royal wedding? >> yeah. >> see, they are getting along so well, the next challenge they get is going to be tough for anybody. >> it is going to be hard for them to confront.
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>> we rigged the group test with a second cheating temptation, an answer cheat is stapled to the back of the quiz. when our actress finds it, it will look like our mistake. so, as the questions get harder -- >> for each of these young stars give the names of their famous siblings. >> my. >> got >> our actress pretends to discover the cheat sheet we planted. >> i think these are the answers. it has kate and pip patch. i will rip it out and put it in my pocket. >> instead of protesting, sasha appears to be celebrating the group's good fortune. >> oh, these are the judges. >> he excitedly reads the cheap cheat. >> name four judges on nbc "the voice." >> adam levine, cee lo green. >> he is like celebrating there are answers to the questions. >> i'm very uncomfortable about it but he will learn from this experiment, that's for sure. >> blake shelton. >> as the group copies down answers, emma starts to look uneasy again, especially when they discuss might happen later when their quiz gets checked. >> they are going to be like, oh, they're really smart.
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>> these how you get on. >> makes me feel sad she doesn't feel comfortable enough to say, hey, don't do that. >> how are you guys? >> now i head into the library to ask them about the test. did you have fun doing this? >> yes. >> i let them squirm. you guys seem to know your pop culture. very good. then tell them what your show is really about. this is actually a show on nbc, but it's a show on cheating. we have hidden cameras all around the room. and your parents have been watching. >> i was gonna say oh, my gosh. >> emma admits right away a that as one of the younger kids in the library, she felt helpless. >> i didn't think we should cheat but since they are 16, i was kind of like embarrassed to say anything. so -- >> ethics teacher rosalyn wiseman comes in to say what they did is typical for kids their age. >> so you are not in trouble, okay?
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so everyone take a deep breath. >> she says that with so many kids in schools cheating, it can start to seem normal, even necessary, even though it's wrong. >> i should have said something. but i didn't want to say something. >> is honesty important to your parents, like super important? >> mm-hmm. >> right. >> then you get into these situations it is a lot trickier, right? i know parents like to talk about it is important you are honest, don't lie. but we don't give theme context what that is going to look like. cheating is a specific way of being dishonest. so i would be very specific with your kids about what honesty looks like to you. >> hello. >> she says tell kids point blank that cheating equals lying. so in this case it is a learning experience for a both mother and son. >> you have got voice, use it. find a way to make a wrong into a right and don't participate. easy to get sucked into the bad situation but this situation came up again, are you going to remember what happened here? >> i would probably tell them stop.
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>> probably? >> no i would tell them to stop. >> good lesson learned. good job. want to go get ice cream? >> but there's another group of kids weight in the wings, and this time, the cheating escalates to a whole new level. >>. >> coming up -- >> cheated so much. >> not a big deal. >> oh, but it is. ♪ oh, look... another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. one week? that definitely works! rapid wrinkle repair®. and for dark spots, rapid tone repair.
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can you tell the cullen family from the kardashians? these teenagers think they can. >> favorite show is "criminal minds." >> my favorite show is "ant farm." >> here to try out for a new popular quiz show for kids. that is just a ruse. parents have brought them to the
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school library for a demonstration about cheating and they are about to be confronted with the dilemma that their moms and dads never had to think about back when they were in high school. >> people use the internet on the phone all the time. pull it out in class. >> the click of a bunt, you can get the answer you want. >> technology is sort of the new frontier when it comes to cheating. >> kids using technology is so often integrated ways to get information about everything, but when you are specifically told do not use them and you use them anyway, then you are cheating. >> so before the quiz, we make sure to give them this important instruction. >> you can't have any cell phones to look up answers. >> kyle is an honor roll student who has just been promised his first cell phone as a reward for good grades. >> have you talked to him about cheating and the consequences of cheating? >> yes, we do we say if you see a friend of yours doing something that you steel not right you need to say to him this isn't right, i'm walking
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away from you. i'm not doing what you're doing. >> jazz minute's mother says she has been trying to teach her daughter to stand ground with other kids but not sure what happens today. what if she goes along with the cheating and participate in the cheating, how will you beale that? >> i'm not going to be angry that just shows me there's more we got to work on, more we have to talk b. >> jasmine and kyle are in the library with 12-year-old abby and the actors we've hired to cheat. our producer tells the group that the higher the score, the more likely they will get a shot at being on the show. >> we will ask the groups that we think do well to come back and audition. >> we leave them alone. hidden cameras rolling. >> miles, right? >> yeah. >> and our cheaters quickly break the first rule talking during the individual test. >> if we put higher numbers, does that, like, increase our chances? >> probably, yeah. >> and once the cheaters are talking. >> wait, you said justin bieber? >> all the kids start sharing
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answer he is. >> jaden smith and -- >> jada smith. >> so, it is yeah. >> emma watson and emma roberts, i don't know the difference. >> a question about pop stars, not ap history, but it is clear these kids know what they are doing is cheating. listen to what kyle says. >> i don't think we are supposed to be talking. >> be quiet. >> no one's here. >> and yet, all of them, including kyle, keep going. >> does anybody know who bella thorn is? >> i don't think we are supposed to be talking but he is still asking the question. >> no, it is i carly. >> all comparing their answers. >> mine is asking all the questions. >> next, a group project, sharing allowed. >> what position does derek jeter play for the new york yankees? >> shortstop. >> oh. >> the kids work together as the questions get tougher >> name the parents of cullen family in the "twilight" series of books and movies.
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>> put a question mark. >> name all the kardashians in order from oldest to -- >> there's kim. >> kim. khloe i think is the oldest. >> no khloe is the mom now. >> when they get stuck, the actors propose a new way to cheat. >> does anybody have their phone? >> i don't even have a phone. >> i still have mine. >> should i research the answers? google it? >> no. >> while kyle and the real kids have voiced some reservation, the actors take out the phone anyway. >> what if she walks in? >> they look uneasy. >> in order it is kris, kourtney, kim, khloe, kendall and kylie. >> think because everybody is having a good time talking, she is kind of just going with it, she is going with the flow. >> surprised he hasn't spoken up more. i'm a little disappointed, actually. >> the names of the parents of the cullen family. >> come on, kyle, say something.
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>> what would you like him to have done? >> i would have like him to say put the phone away, i don't want to get in trouble. >> don't you think in a similar situation, would you do that? >> now, yes. >> we have cheated so much. >> not a big deal. >> if they don't find out it is not a big deal. >> when the quiz is over, the kids reveal something that makes their parents happier, the conversation turns to smoking and drugs. >> i don't get why people would do drugs. >> neither do i. >> like why would you do it? >> that's good. see, we teach good. got a little good out of it. >> hi, guys. how are you >> but back to the quiz how do you think they will explain some of those answers we know they looked up online. the kardashian, i'm impressed. >> we watch like "the kardashians take new york."
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>> all of them say it was the heat of the moment that made they act like they normally wouldn't. >> my stomach kind of like was turning. taking out the phone and papers, something i don't like to do. >> so what should a teenager do when other kids cheat? rosalyn wiseman comes in with some advice. >> 'cause it's not like you see somebody cheating and you say, oh, my gosh, miles, you are cheating. that is so bad. that is against the school rules. don't you knee? you have to stop that right now. then you sound like some sort of after school special that's weird, right? >> much better, she says, be short but firm. >> you don't have to be all like long-winded sentences about it, but seriously, dude, stop, right? in your own words. >> let say miles is looking up the answers. >> we asked kyle to role play with our actor and give it a try. >> you are like so annoying, he is not answering. >> stop. >> do you think could you do that? >> yeah. like one of my friends, i would definitely i do that. >> what did you think? >> scale relieved when his mother tells him he still gets
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what if she walks in? >> we watch this group of teens blatantly cheat on a test, looking up answers on a cell phone. this is "dateline" show we are doing about cheating. and they just found out their parents saw it all go down on hidden. >> the whole time, my stomach was just turning, my heart's beating. my heart's beating now, still. >> jasmine says she is disappointed in herself and feels she has let her mother down. hi. >> hi. >> we reunite them in the library. >> i feel guilty. >> why do you feel guilty? >> 'cause i lied for, like, everyone.
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we all lied for each other. so -- feel guilty about that. >> how does that make you feel? >> she is gonna make me cry 'cause she's crying. >> but this mom knows her daughter's heart is in the right place. the rest just takes practice. >> first of all, you're here because i want you to realize how important it is for you to be strong, to be a strong person and really stand up for yourself and it's hard. not everybody does it. there's adults that don't do it. and i know it's hard, 'cause i've been there >> i mean, you know what you stand for. >> yeah. >> they said i don't really know why i cheated. i was raised better than that. i know that that's wrong but i did it anyway, that is an amazingly important experience for a kid to have and then be able to talk about it about their mom or their dad. >> he put these kids through pretty tough situations, if the tables were turned, how do you think the grownups would react? >> i think they would do the same thing. it is easy to look at kids and say that's kids doing this. this is something we often can
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get caught up in easily. >> so, what can be done to reduce cheating in schools and make it easier for honest kids to stand their ground? cheating researcher and education professor eric anderman says there is a proven solution. how can we reduce cheating? >> i know this is a tall order, but in de-emphasizing the absolute total importance of the grade. but that is the bottom line, motivation is get grades is one of the strongest predictors of whether or not kids cheat or not. >> research shows when schools and parents talk more about knowledge than grades, cheating goes dune. >> in other words, you got a c. you didn't learn all the material. you're going to have to go back and learn the material and retake the test and get an a. the goal here is not for me to say you are a c student. the goal here is for you to learn this stuff. >> if you are focused on grades, grade, grades with your kid, they are going to hear you, then you are contributing to a situation where they will more likely cheat and that is something that is a hard thing for parents to hear but parents have to hear it.
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>> with the next group of students, we put that idea to the test. this time, when our producer gives instructions, we make the audition less competitive, no longer stressing the importance of just getting the answers right. >> and all we need to know from you is what you know. you can get them wrong that is okay. that also helps us. >> will it make a difference? at the table are twin sisters christina and patience and cassie, an honors student who has told her mom she doesn't like it when other kids try to copy her work. >> she felt very bad that somebody was cheating off of her, that that was doing them a disservice because they are not learning by that. >> and 11-year-old unctrey, trey for short. >> his name means to be honest, upright and righteous. >> can trey live up to that big name? he is the youngest kid we are testing today. i will give you a few minute to us do it, okay? once again, the actors start cheating during the individual test.
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>> emily watson. >> the twins go along, helping each other out. >> that fraternal bond. >> they should have split those twins up. >> what is the name of justin bieber's new perfume. >> here comes the real test. >> cassie and trey are adamant, don't do it. please don't. please don't. >> is the boldest push back we have seen in the library yet. >> put away your phone. please put away your phone. >> no, you could just watch the door. >> no, please, stop. oh. >> can i have a cell phone? >> no. >> shut it off. >> no, please put away your
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phone. >> you have to get on the phone, don't you? >> yeah, but i don't want to get on the show cheating. >> doing what i taught him to do. >> put away your phone. >> okay. i put my phone away. everybody happy? >> when they find the cheat sheet we planted, answers we've stapled to the back of the quiz, cassie actually tries to take it from the cheater. >> here, give it to me. >> come on, stop. >> remember, with this group, we de-emphasizing the importance of getting all the answers right and it seems to have made a difference. cassie appears confident cheating is unnecessary, when the producer come backs in, she doesn't hesitate to at the time truth about what's going on. >> the answers for the last five questions were on the back of it, so we just wanted to let you know. >> cassie, what she did there to at the time adult, that is something you did not predict? >> i didn't expect it. i really didn't expect it. >> you're here because we are doing a "dateline" episode about cheating and your parents have been watching. >> i'm gonna get you, dad.
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i'm gonna get you. >> you-all did a great, great job. >> what happened there doesn't surprise me a bit. when the emphasis is on knowledge, kids are not likely to cheat because it doesn't buy you anything. it doesn't get you anything. >> of course, grades will still be a part of school, but experts say parents need to strike the right balance at home. raising kids who would never cheat is an enormous challenge. whether it's teaching them to stand up for what's right or to bounce back when they don't. >> good job. >> our children are going to do things that we are not proud of. >> what i think is important is that parents realize that parenting is a process. this is a journey. a long journey. >> that's all for now. thanks for joining us.
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