i'm richard lui thanks for spending time with us. i'm passing it over. here is the baton. >> thank you very much. here in headquarters in new york. the bombshell president saying haitian immigrants last aides, his words, and nigerian won't want to go back to his cuts again after seeing america. the white house is firing back saying he did not make those comments. plus the president long time assistant interviewed. we have news what was in the room. and steve bannon and lewandowski may be next. running on them starts now. begin this lower with explosive report "new york times" in the offensive comments reportedly made by president trump about immigrants. say they made the disparaging

remarks at his senior advisers back in june. according to "the new york times" in a fit of anger over stalling immigration agenda president said haitians entering the country has aides, and nigerian would never go back to huts after seeing america, end quote. they deny he made those comments. i want to go to white house kelly o'donnell down in florida. cell will he, the white house not mincing words and pushing back hard on what was reported in "the new york times" an hour ago. >> reporter: that's right. "the new york times" shoought o the views of the white house and we also heard from the white house and directly refutes what's in "the new york times" piece. i'll read it in full. it says general kelly, mcmaster, secretary tillerson and nielsen at dhs and all other senior staff in the meeting deny these outrageous claims.

it's both sad and telling "the new york times" would print the lies anyway that from sarah huckabee sanders. as you explain this this is going back to a june meeting where they say he was agitated over numbers in immigration and numbers of visa granted from various countries at a time when the president was trying to enact various iterations of his travel ban. it cites that the president was reading from a policy memo from stephen miller who has been one of the architects of the president's views and policies related to immigration, hard liner would be a way to describe him that i think even he would can acknowledge, and suggests in the meet tlg is a back and forth between these top level advisers, including cabinet level officials, this is before john kelly was chief of staff in his time at the department of homeland security. and it says that the president used these in send dairy

comments referencing immigrants from countries like afghanistan and haiti in language that is widely considered offensive. quotes that are attributed to anonymous sources. so we don't know what all of the context of this meeting is, but it does reflect the president's broader anger about issues he's not been able to affect some of the immigration policy changes that he campaigned on and believed in and has found there have been court attempts to stop his travel ban and so forth. so the white house response is that, naming the specific official, cabinet level that were there, saying that they deny these things were said. that sort of where we are. now, it's december. the end of the year. and this is a story about a june meeting. since june, lots of white house officials have left their various posts. so we don't know if those sources, as described by "the new york times," are current officials who were in the meeting still employed by the white house, or if they have left their employment with the

white house and we don't know what motivations they might have had. so it is certainly a provocative story that's getting attention. the white house is pushing back on it. and it of course ties into an issue that's been a big part of the trump political life over these last couple of years. >> kelly, thank you very much, joining us from florida. one of the members of the "new york times" white house team peter baker joins us by telephone. he did not author this piece. they are on the white house beat. let me ask you first about what kelly o'donnell was just talking about. the in send dairy comments taken place in june. feel us in on the president's broader attitude on this, if you would. >> well, it's towards immigration and talking about a particular meeting where he was reviewing what had happened since, you know, he tried to put on this travel ban on certain countries early in his tenure

and he was frustratesed that he didn't see that the flow of the people in the country had been diminished of the he was particularly concerned that people might accuse him of not following through on campaign promises to tighten immigration and close the borders to some people. and he had this list, and that got his ire going. >> let me ask you about the sourcing, berg in mind you can't reveal a whole lot, six people to your colleagues to talk about the conversation that took place. two of them remember these in send dairy comments. the other four said they didn't recall making them. but the two that did said they were notable enough that they wrote them down chblt what can you tell us about the sources behind this? >> well, this is from my colleagues mike sheer and they should talk about their own sources. we feel very confident about our

sources, people to have reason to know what happened, and we spoke with them repeatedly have confidence in the word. >> peter, thanks for speaking with us peter baker talking with us about the piece by his colleagues on immigration, some remarks made by the president there in. i want to bring in my panel now. william cohen, karen, and lynn sweet for the chaicago sun time. let me ask you what happens to the daca, not something that was completed by the end of the legislative term. where do things stand? put the subject of this article into some context for snus. >> herefor us? >> dreamers are for children who come in the country no fault of their own. president gave them protective

orders to be here put in place by formerly president obama. the democrats had hoped to make a safe haven by them possibly on the read to citizenship or permanent status a part of the final negotiations of the short-term bill to keep government open. they couldn't do that. right now when they come back in january with a little more leverage because they'll be one more democratic member in the senate and will be that much closer to 2018 midterms, they are hoping them to attach this provision to save the d.r.e.a.m.ers to something either piece of legislation likely not a stand alone piece to give them some protection, very much up in the air right now if a deal can be reached. >> let me ask you just about this process, peter baker talking about how this "new york times" article is much larger look at immigration policy under this president, of course we have the ban at the beginning of this tenure, this period he wants to do a whole lot more. the piece talking about dysfunctional process we have seen play out here in the white

house. tell us a little bit about what's happened since this travel ban has been put in place? >> of course we have seen courts push back on it. right now the travel ban has been an allowed to at least in part remain in place by the supreme court. but i think again this "new york times" article, what is so striking, in some ways about it is, revealing a little bit of the president's own personal feelings, not just about immigration broadly, but about immigration from certain types of countries, right. the alleged comments about nigerians, and about haitians, and one thing that sort of gets lost in the conversations that we have about immigration and people who come and stay and live in the states is, according to this "new york times" reports, he says haitians come and bring aides to the united states. during this year we have seem temporary protected status for 50 or 60,000 haitians who came here and granted protection

after the earthquake in 2010. they had tps revoked for them. this is a president who went to haitian and said they would be champion for them. many of those people were sort of upset with how the clintons perhaps were perceived in haiti. so this comes down to questions about double standards, would he be saying or thinking these things about immigrants from the european union, from britt taai and u.k., and speaks to disturbing and irrational, frankly, under current to the president's approach to people of color who come from other countries. >> let me ask you about someone at the start of this. help us understand the role of immigration and role he's playing in this meeting back in june. >> well, david one thing that

rings true about this "new york times" article, and i'll take peter baker who is excellent reporter and so are he's colleagues at their word that they feel confident with their sourcing on this, but one thing that rings true regardless of the horrific things that those people in that room said, including president trump, is steven miller, i mean, this is steven miller 101, david. this is what steven miller has been doing since he was a 13-year-old growing up in santa monica. he has been excluding friends of his who are one time friends of his because they were hispanic, because they were black, because they were other. this is something that steven miller has been doing in high school. this is something that he did at duke when he worked very closely with richard spencer, the white supremacist when he was briefly at duke. so unfortunately this is steven miller at his worst. this is everything we don't like about him.

this is everything that's reprehensible about what he believes in. and, frankly, this is so antithetical to what this country is all about and what made it great that it's disgust zb ing. >> thanks for all of you. thanks for your time this saturday. >> thank you. president's long time secretary is interviewed as part of the house intelligence probe. we have brand new details on who.

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i'm david gur a. the house committee sending invites to former chief steve bannon and lewandowski. earlier in the week fbi deputy director mccabe was grilled for more than 16 hours. >> i think it's indicative what the republicans are trying to do. they are trying to rush to a close this investigation. i think twice this week they scheduled interviews out of state, when we are in d.c. so it's very difficult for any member to be in more than one place at a time. particularly when the first mandate is to vote. one democrat was able to go up to new york to do the interview that took place yesterday. but there was another interview wednesday, another interview wednesday when we were in d.c., and that interview was in new york, so of course no democrat

members were able to go. >> all right. joining me now analyst and national political reporter. mike, let me start with you, you are here in new york, not d.c., a lot of the action has been in new york as well. what does this say about the house investigation, the way that this is taking place, the speed which it's taking place and geography as well? >> so this is it an investigation going on since march. might have been one, two interviews a week, weeks they didn't do any at all. now in the month of december we've had daily inter vurks sometimes two a day. one day this week we had three in one single day. so democrats are saying, as you heard just now, this is evidence that republicans are trying to rush this investigation prematurely to a conclusion. and the types of interviews they are having are not in significant. don junior this month. donna mcgraph gate keeper. these are not in significant witnesses. so it tells us that perhaps it is true they are trying to wrap this off. >> let me ask you about ron a

graph. what transpired? >> well, sounds like it was another long day of questioning, perhaps eight hours. but what was unusual about this interview taking place here in new york, as congressman referred to. these interviews have been member driven chblt a. all the ones in the russian probe is professional staff. we don't know if any republican members were there. but of course she's significant when don junior testified we know it was on trump tower meeting in 2016. rob goldstone who was the publicist who tried to a rank this, when he was emailing, he stayed i want to get that to your father so i'll get it to r ron a. >> danny, let me ask you about speed and geography. how potentially problematic the rate this is going and the fact all of this is taking place in

various parts of the country? >> it could be problematic for a number of reasons. remember, we have two simultaneous investigations going on at the same time. on the mueller side of the investigation, i think anyone involved in the criminal defense, justice department area would agree this has moved extraordinarily quickly. so too on the congressional side. there is not necessarily risks they'll miss anything, but of course scheduling anything around this time of year might make it difficult for certain parties to appear. so that could be a problem as well. but over all the speed at which this is going can be counter balanced with the fact that you have two very thorough investigations going on at the same time. and surely covering overlapping areas. >> the thing we hear from republicans is this has to move quickly enough it gets resolved before the next election. how compelling a point is that when you hear that from republican lawmakers? >> i don't know compelling it is. i know you had asked earlier about the speed at which this is going and you have to ask yourself are they doing this in order to appear as though they

are trying to kind of get through it and sort of railroad through it and what effect will it have, will they be able to get to the bottom of what happened, did russia medal in our election, i think our intelligence committee has made that clear, but what role did members of the trump campaign may mr. that meddling is something they are supposed to figure out. and if you are steam rolling through it i don't know where is the integrity in that. particularly when you juxtaposes it how long it's been taking mueller to get through all the information he's been gathering. >> mike, let's look ahead to january, i mentioned steve bannon and lewandowski has been asked to testify. analytic fund, lewandowski reportedly in contact with papadopoulos, what does this stay to you about this?

>> they are getting these witnesses. very limited scope of inquiry that they agreed on, republicans and democrats. one of the points of agreement is on this question of collusion of whether these active measures the russians took to interfere in our election took place with assistance f u.s. personnel. so the key campaign figures part of these every day decisions at the trump cam page are important to helping address that question. i also want to mention the senate intelligence committee is also doing own investigation. and they are not following the same path as the house. they are planning to issue an interim report in january, but they are going to bring in some of the witnesses they've already had again. and they are continuing their work at much more deliberate pace than the house. >> let me ask you about that. you have the house investigation, senate investigation, bob mueller investigation, seeing number of people casting aspirations. >> he has said nothing which i think is brilliant. >> how much is this weighing on that investigation?

what's being cast upon bob mueller at this point? >> nothing. i think mueller is -- i mean, i've said this over and over again. mueller is a skilled prosecutor. he knows what he's doing. not only does he know when to interview people, how to interview people, i also think he's been strategic when he announces who was indicted, i think all of that is staged, he is putting his head down. and also not going to fall into the same pitfalls as comey. comey was very, very vocal when he was sort of letting the world now what he was or wasn't going to dpo, wh to do, when he was looking into hillary clinton and email server. i think he recognized best way to do this to maintain integrity in his investigation is to keep his mouth shut. and i think he's done a great job on that? >> do you agree on that? >> i super-duper agree. >> u.s. attorneys are not the kind of folks who care what people are saying on twitter or

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i didn't want you folks to say that i wasn't keeping my promise. i am keeping my promise. i am signing it before christmas. >> all right. president trump signed new tax cuts into law. so what's next on the docket for h his administration? infrastructure, welfare reform and opioid crisis. but say frustrations and concerns regarding the 2018 political landscape reportedly discussed in front of the president. tall that drama taking place moments after the president celebrated biggest legislative

achievement to date. joining us now former vermont governor and howard dean along with kurt. kurt, let me start with you and ask you about the way this played out. there was some haste at the end of the year to get this done before christmas. the president saying the bill will sell itself. what should we read into that? is the white house going to rid itself of tax reform? >> trump cares about polls, and what we know is tax bill is one of the most unpopular pieces of legislation ever passed. so knowing that it's not shocking he wants to sweep it under the rug, start the year fresh, so when the time comes and american realize this tax bill is nothing like it was promised to them ks they are not going to get the benefits that republicans in congress are out there lying about right now. trump is going to be able to say he's focused on other things. and does it by chance succeed he'll say he was for it all

along. but again this is a president trump more than any other president says cares about the headlines say and they have not been good. >> kurt, they are talking about wait and see approach, see what happens with this thaks reform as it becomes law. what should democrats be doing with regard to tax reform and the rest of the president's agenda going forward? >> this really is not tax reform at all of course. it's just a looting of the united states treasury for the benefit of trump and wealthy friends and corporations. average middle class person is going to see their taxes go up as a result of this five years from now. so the major problem that trump has, he is leading his party over a cliff. there are about 15 united states senators p on the republican side, who have benefited to the tune of several million dollars with some of the last minute amendments that were snuck into the bill. this is party of corruption. republicans are party of corruption and that's what we'll be running against.

>> let me ask you about the vocal disagreement we had between bill step and the president, debate took place in the president continued outside the white house before the two gentlemen went home. what does that say to you the republican approach, this administration approach to the 2018 midterms? >> i think there is a reckoning happening. reality is president's rating is all-time low. and some of these facing midterms they won't want to be on the campaign trail with trump. they don't want him showing up in that's district and showing the visual of trump hugging another congressman, i'll tell you the minute any of these guys step on the podium they'll be millions of dollars spent projecting that image and showing how in tune these republicans are and that will cost them to lose their seat. i think the white house is trying to figure out how can they best use the president.

trump wants to get out on the campaign trail. we know he loves mog more than big rally where he gets to be outside the confines of the us what and to feed off of that energy that he gets from that energy. he wants to it be out there as much as possible. the problem is going to be other people won't want him out there with them. >> we seize on this tension twoon the white house and outside grouchs as well. giving your experience, how is this supposed to work? is there healthy and natural to be some tension? >> no, normally the president leads the party. the problem is the party realizes they have to run away from the president. of course they won't be tiebl do that. he'll be there on television every night, because that's the ads that the democrats will run. two things the democrats have to do. one we have to have a really truly economically populous position where fairness and working class benefits are put ahead of the benefits of the corporations, of which they got some enormous win falls.

that's the first thing. second thing is we don't really have to do a lot here because everybody knows that the brand of the republican party is now corruption. that is the fact. >> governor, thank you very much for the time. thanks for joining me here on msnbc. up next, brand new report saying that the president says haitians have aides. joining us next. holy smokes. that is awesome. strong. you got the basic, and you got the beefy. i just think it looks mean. incredible. no way. i'm getting goosebumps. this holiday season, become part of the chevy family. use your employee discount for everyone and trade up to this silverado all star to get a total value of over eleven thousand dollars. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.

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i'm david gura. the report saying the president lashed out inside the oval office and caused heads to turn. in several quotes from the president he made comments about immigrants coming into the country from different parts of the world where haiti he mentioned some of them have aides. the white house denied he used those words. press secretary sarah huckabee sanders told t- said this, they actually in the meeting deny these outrageous claims. joining me noul pastw pastor and on the team. this week tweeted this photo with president trump inside the oval office t also joining us ben and governor of the state of maryland. let me start with you, pastor, have you react to what's been report nd "the new york times." i'll mention the source in here

paper saiting two of them remember these explosive remarks. what's your remarks to what the paper has published? >> i don't believe them. i know president trump personally. and i don't believe those remarks were made. the white house denies them. they are ub substantiatesed anonymous sources. i don't believe they occurred. i stand with the white house. i believe it's once again fake reporting. >> we heard him say rapists from mexico. and pocahontas. it's totally unbelievable to you coming from the president of the united states? >> racist that was over blown taken out of context. he said about elizabeth warren tongue in cheek. we have collusiothis plight of

haitians looking for solutions equitable to everyone else as well as solving this problem. >> we just spoke with peter baker, new york correspondent for the "new york times" didn't write the piece. but do you believe what the president said what the times said he said? >> certainly. it's totally consistent with so many attacks he's made going back ten years against president obama. i mean, just the same mean, nasty spirit is that we've heard again and again from this guy. >> let me ask you here, pastor scott f i could, if i could, if he did say that, how would that change your impression? >> first of all, let me revisit what ben just said. i also want to reiterate the fact that the obama allegations of the birther issue came out of the hillary clinton camp during the campaign. now, we'll leave that right there. but also i know he didn't say it. so i don't want to conjecture

about it. i nont he didn't say that. the white house denied it. >> how do you know? it's so contradictory to the christmas spirit? >> these are people coming here. >> i know he didn't say it. >> seeking refuge. >> but the thing is once again. >> is the door not open at the end of the christmas? >> i don't want to conjecture about it, if he did. that's like if a meteror hits california tomorrow what will happen, it's not going to happen so don't talk about it. i believe the white house over "the new york times." >> i guess i hear you say hillary camp responsible for the birther issue. this was something that the president hammered on over and over again. >> over and over again i'll say it the hillary clinton camp during that campaign introduced that theory. they introduced that. so we know that. let's move on to something zblels l. >> let me ask you about the president of the united states,

he was asked on the an agenda, after this signed into law. he talked about infrastructure. what did he say to you when you were at the white house about his plans going forward for urban revitalization. >> we have been working with the white house after his nomination with an urban revitalization plan. several multi billion dollar companies, public, private participation, to do a several tremendous initiatives that is going to completely revitalize the urban community, transitional housing, criminal justice reform, affordable housing, there is community urban banking. renewable energy. financial literacy. there is a huge, huge, huge comprehensive plan that is going to be unveiled very soon. we've been working very, very hard for months on this plan. and when it rolls out, urban america will be having a great service done to it. >> give us the time line, pastor, if you could, and give

us some concrete dpoo taetail h. what have you drafted with the president? >> that was about the conversation with president. we were bringing him up to date on the progress we've made thus far. once again we have several multi billion dollar companies, we have the triple five group out of new jersey, gwen continue, blue skiet capital, we have regreen, mull it will million dollar company. these components cover, we are doing affordable housing, transitional housing, we are doing solar energy fields, we have pulte homes. we have so many different components to it. i'm talking about your ban retail outlet centers in the heart of the inner city. we are going to do retail outlet centers there. keep the black dollar in the black community. it's going to stir job creation. financial literacy. entrepreneurship. let me tell you something, when

this plan rolls out it's going to out shiny other urban plan that any other president ever did. >> let me have you react to that. you've been working in venture capital with focus on american cities. how participatory of a plan you see this to be? >> i would love to know how many black companies are driving this. 68% of our investments are in black or latino or female founders. and i know what it takes to be inclusive. and i'm not sure pastor scott is up to it. what i do know is this president has increased in cmass i incarceration. >> he is going to return to the failed war on drugs. i don't know what you've learned

in the last 20 years, but most of the country has learned it's an abject failure. >> let me ask you about the black owned businesses, first of all. >> talking about -- >> gentlemen, gentlemen. >> you need to point the finger to fwil clinton. >> black owned businesses driving this initiative, what do you have to say to that? >> i'm driving the initiative. so there is a black owned business. >> how many companies? >> the corporations that i just mentioned are multi billion companies. they are partnering with us to make this country great again. let me ask you this, how many black owned businesses support this presidency? support this administration? i need to go after the people that are going to work with me, not try to work against me. and so i went after those that were willing to participate. we are going to be dropping this model. we have the capability to drop this model in 20 cities at a

time cross america. so it doesn't matter what color the people are as long as people of color are benefiting. >> what will we see from you and the white house? >> we are going to roll out with it, i wanted black history month, but at the very latest second quarter. but we have the principles lined up and money in place, we have the private sector participation, and we have the white house participation. this thing is going to be a goal, and plaque ameriblack ame benefiting very much from it. >> we heard that from before. >> you didn't hear it under this president. you heard it under the last president for last eight years who did absolutely flog for the black community. name one thing the prior administration did for the black community. >> i'll give you the last word. >> prior president did for the black community? >> ben gel es, last word to you

there. >> name one. >> this president, this president has attacked public education, has caused. >> name one. >> called for a return to the failed war on drugs. and pastor scott, with all due respect, i have no trust that you are actually capable of putting together a plan that's going to make our communities better in the face of what this president is already doing to attack public education, call for increase to that. >> say one thing about the tax reform bill. he said proof is in the paycheck. and i'm going to say that, the proof will be in the pudding. when i roll this out you'll have the egg on my face, not me. >> we'll leave it there. gentlemen, thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. up next tax cut passes and soon after corporations are boasting about handing out bonuses. is there more to this than just christmas cheer? we'll break it down next.

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do you like nuts? welcome back. president trump yesterday said that the media would have criticized him if he did not fulfill his promise to get the tax bill signed by christmas. and some is set to trick el down at major u.s. companies. at&t one of the first companies to give bonus toss employees this week saying in a statement

that the company plans to invest additional $1 billion in the u.s. and special $1,000 to more than 200 employees if the president signs the bill before christmas and employees receive the bonus over the holidays. this is parent company come tas employee bonuses and wage increases following the gop tax bill passage, which is set to slash the u.s. corporate rate to 21 from 35%. let's start with at&t. i was struck yesterday as the president signed this bill, he said i'm doing it now in the hastey way that the media was doubting i would get this done from christmas. there is haste to get this done. >> they also had to clear one of the key budget hurdles that would allow him to sign it. now he was able to sign so they can payout of the of the bonuses before the end of the year. >> look at at&t $1,000 employee

bonus. hard to look at this and not be considered of the fact there is this merger making way through the system. of course held up by the courts. but there is a back drop. >> certainly political back drop and trump administration appears to oppose the merger of at&t and time warner which owns cnn, rival to msnbc. although he does not show that same concern about disney buying fox entertainment. so we see a slight philosophical differences. to say at&t is trying to bribe $1,000 per employee would be a stretch, and some people have said that. pure pr. they think they make additional 1 billion capital. most are spending billions of dollars a year in new plant and equipment. so whether comcast has additional 5 billion come in that remains to be seen.

whether others will poor money i pour money in. >> let's hear boeing coordinated way here 300 billion in boeing very much in the current year of export import bank. then we have to talk about what's going to happen with the iran deal as well. >> and they are having a huge dispute with one of the canadian air traffic control companies where they compete so jockeying in position whether certain advantages in the sky are fair to boeing as well as others. so, yes, a lot of politics. >> let's look to wells fargo announcing they plan to increase the amount of money they pay workers up to $15 in minimum wage. you and i both know wells fargo has been in the cross hairs over the last couple of years many pr issues. what do you think of this increase in wages?

>> we are seeing this in other places too, we are seeing wages go up generally across the board. these are enormous wind falsfal when you look at the corporate from 35 to 21, effective rate as low as 12%, so they will relationsh reap a large windfall. and it's nice to see sharing with employees. i imagine you would see that with mergers and acquisitions freed up capitol for that and benefit to having done that as well. >> let's talk a little bit about that. that is the argument i hear. there is this debate between does this go to share backs. how does that play out? >> we know from 2004, last time there was repatriation holiday where they brought profits back home, bulk of it went to share buy backs and not into plant and

equipment. the difference here is there is a huge in sen it i have to invest because you goat write-off that new plant and equipment first year so that is a bigger tax break for corporations. bigger than 2004 but possible huge incentive toll reward shareholders in larger way than you would employees and others. >> we'll see in 2018. thanks very much. this week the movie the post opens the steven spell berg is about the pentagon papers, that exposed decades of lies in america role in the vietnam war. tonight 9:00 p.m. special documentary dangerous man in america about the man who leaked those documents. here's a preview. >> all i knew was they had a bunch of classified papers. and the question for me as a lawyer is can you publish classified papers. >> the law here is the statute called the espionage act.

if you read it and pushed it it was possible to apply it to the pentagon papers. >> we are sitting down there in the engine room doing the work, not up at the corporate hierarchy but we are hearing the battles going on up there, and we hear of course the news comes to us because we are at risk too, the law they used for decades said don't publish, and by the way you are all violating this and you'll go to jail. believe me, we heard that. >> and happily l j, jim good da times in-house attorney took a different position. >> the risk that "the new york times" took was a life and death risk of an institution. and i don't mean the 5,000 people working for the in the npt.

"new york times." lu lurking in the back of our minds we couldn't live with suppressing this material. it would later be learned that we had not published it and that would have been such a disgrace. >> you can catch this, daniel elsberg and the pentagon papers tonight from 9 to 11:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc. coming up new details on the russia investigation, just who was in the room to interview the president's long time assistant. plus what's behind the new subpoena of jared kushner's company.

hello everybody i'm david gura msnbc headquarters in new york. "new york times" reporting a bomb shell that president trump made insensitive comments about immigrants during a meeting at the white house back in skrjune. president trump said haitian immigrants come to the country have aides. said they have seen the united states for africa, they would never, quote go back to the huts in after kachlt the white house is denying he used those words. first let's go to kelly o'donnell with the president in west palm beach. kelly, the president out for around of golf on this saturday afternoon. what has the white house said about this story "new york times" in the? >> reporter: well, good afternoon, david, the president is back from golf. he played with some friends who

include pro golfers. and he is enjoying the rest of the day with no other news even events expected. by that i mean we had a lid, but a lid came off in a different sense with "the new york times" reporting about a meeting back in june where the president, according to their reporting, displayed anger, said some provocative things, as you outlined, in a meeting dealing with immigration and the numbers being admitted to the united states through visa, some of which would be short-term visa, torts a longer stay. the white house is pushing back saying that all of the principles who were in that meeting, including cabinet level officials like secretary of homeland security at the time, john kelly, now the chief of staff, secretary tillerson, secretary of state, of course, and others, say that as they call them outrageous comments did not happen. and sarah huckabee sanders the white house press secretary going on to say that it would only be "the new york times" that would go ahead