where do you start? where do we start? i will start by telling you right off the bat that senator kamala harris is our guest tonight. she's going to be here live. senator harris does not do a lot of interviews. there of course is fever pitch speculation that she will be a serious contender for the democratic presidential nomination in 2020. she's right in the middle of the immigration fight that led to this -- this week's latest he said what nightmare involving this president. senator harris is here with us live tonight in just a couple of empties. you' -- couple of minutes. today at the white house, they tried to announce something about the iran nuclear deal. they were trying to announce

that president trump will continue to certify the iran nuclear deal for now, but maybe he won't do it anymore after this. and i say they were trying to announce that, because they failed at it. they failed at actually making the announcement. they set up a call for reporters to call in to get this news from the white house on this very serious subject and we actually got a transcript of what happened when reporters called in for this call set up by the white house. here is how it started. this is where the transcript starts. man speaking mandarin chinese. i am going upstairs to the chicken shop. they have nothing down stairs. everything has been sold out. that's in mandarin. we got it translated. next person says cough. next person said, hey, how are you? next person, i'm on a phone conference. i can show you the outlet. a woman's voice says hello. then a woman comes on also speaking chinese and says yes, of course.

then she told me so man speaking chinese at the start, woman speaking chinese a few lines in, then a man says, we can get in trouble doing that sometimes. then a different man says, do you have a note pad, just one note pad? woman says, it's not up yet? man says, i hear a lot of noise. woman yells, everyone shut up! woman says, this is washington, d.c. different woman says, i hope not. yeah, that's what we think. he told me 13 months but this different woman says hello, hello. different woman says is there an operator. woman with british accent says hello? is there anyone? we can't hear anything. different woman says i can't hear anything either, yes, yes, we do not recall the president saying these comments specifically. i think i know who she's quoting there. then another woman yelling has the call started? then a man says martha, can you get me another hard line? i need another land line. i can't hear anything. a woman says, should we hang up?

man says martha when i try to ring the number, it's not ringing. man says, i don't know, this white house can't even run an effing conference call right. he doesn't say effing. they don't know how to mute people's lines. group laughter. man, i'm going to mute myself. man yelling, hello, is anybody listening? man, dot, dot, dot, can't even conduct a bleeping phone call. he didn't say bleeping. then background music starts. rick aftly's "never gonna give you up" starts playing softly in the background. then the woman with an authoritative voice comes on the line and says hi, this is the at&t operator. woman with british accent, of -- obviously excited to hear this, says, hello, we can't hear anything. different woman says, i don't know. i don't know, it's very noisy and a lot of people are speaking. and man says, yes, kim jong-un calling for donald trump. woman, hello? man, how long can this continue like this? different man, hello, this is the state department. can you add this line as a host. woman, how do we do that?

different woman, press one. do we press one? man, does anybody know when this conference call is starting? woman, it already has started. group, more voices, comma, laughter. woman, is there any authorizer on the line? that was the trump white house today attempting to announce to reporters the new white house policy of increased belligerence toward iran. they called reporters and asked them to join them on this call. now, reporters were eventually able to figure out what the white house was trying to announce, but even with martha getting that guy a new note pad and somebody playing rick aftly and the people organizing the reporters scream shut up, shut up, shut up, they just couldn't get this out the way they wanted to. it's not like other people set

up a conference call to talk about this and the white house was hoping -- this was the white house organized event. but imagine you were secretary of state rex tillerson today. today the whole country is coping in some way with the fact that we have a president like this now. all right. but if you're that president's secretary of state after the president said what he said yesterday about haiti and african countries, if you are secretary of state and that's your job, you have a special cleanup to do. i mean, today was the day when the american ambassadors to haiti and botswana and senegal were all summoned by those governments in those countries to give a formal explanation for what our president said. at that meeting with members of congress yesterday when he told lawmakers he wanted more immigrants to america from places like norway, and he didn't want immigrants from what he called bleep hole countries like those in africa and those in haiti. rex tillerson today -- all

right, so that happened yesterday. rex tillerson today wakes up, heads into work knowing that american ambassadors all over the world, who all report to him, are being summoned now to explain or maybe even to poll sdwr jazz for t -- apologize for the behavior of the president of the united states as reported in newspapers yesterday. you're rex tillerson, you're thinking about the african union. we have a lot to do with the african union with military stuff, the african union issued a formal protest. they are calling for an apology from the government of the united states. for what the president said. so rex tillerson, skrft, gets up this morning, i don't know what his morning, has some breakfast, maybe does rex tillerson yoga, i don't know. abo but he knows about the nightmare he's about to have today because of what the president let flow from his mouth yesterday. and then presumably, you know, after he does his little morning routine thinking about what his day will be like, he gets in his rex tillerson secretary of state

motorcade and i'm guessing he turns to his chief of staff or whoever his body man is, is in the car with him, turns to get his daily schedule from his staffer in the motorcade to greet him. what's on the books today, igor? turns out, this is is it. first thing in the morning, secretary of state rex tillerson delivers remarks at state department before the entire staff. topic of remarks, quote, the value of respect. they did not put that on his schedule this morning because the president of the united states called every country in africa a swear word, repeatedly in front of u.s. senators. no, this was just already on secretary of state rex tillerson's schedule for first thing this morning. today was the day he had to give the value of respect speech. that must have been great for everybody. do you remember during the campaign when candidate trump put out that statement from his doctor that was supposed to

attest to mr. trump's health? it was a hilarious statement. you probably remember it, right? mr. trump had a recent complete medical examination that showed only positive results. usually positive resultsa a medical exam are a bad thing, right? only positive results. quote, his physical strength and stamina are extraordinary. in elected, mr. trump, i can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. that is what trump put out during the campaign. today president trump had a physical with the actual white house physician, not his personal physician back home. we thought we might hear from the white house physician himself because that has happened in the past with previous white house physicians doing physicals for the president. they've often made at least short summary statements about the president's health immediately after the president's physical. we did not get that today. instead what we got was a statement from the white house

which purported to be from the white house physician. just playing this straight. the white house says this is what white house physician rear admiral ronnie jackson said about the president's physical today. quote, the president's physical exam today at walter reid national military medical center went exceptionally well. the president is in excellent health and i look forward to briefing some of the details on tuesday. and then right at the end of that statement from the white house they put his name on it. dr. ronnie jackson. you know what? i'm going to go out on a limb here and raise the possibility this statement was not written by the white house physician, rear admiral dr. ronnie jackson. and i'm not going to say that because of the assertions about how exceptionally well the president's physical went, or how excellent his health is. i'm not basing my skepticism about the authorship of this statement on the trumpyness of the statement itself. i'm setting that aside.

no, the reason i think this might not have been written by the white house physician, dr. ronnie jackson, is because that is now how you spell ronnie jackson. either the white house physician today suddenly lost the ability to correctly spell his own name in which case he shouldn't be anybody's doctor today, let alone the president's, or alternatively, the white house put out this statement today as if it was from him but actually it's their statement, they tried to stick his name on but they couldn't be bothered to look him up on google or check his card before they tried to pull this off. maybe the stress is getting to them. nbc news reports tonight after the president appeared to be confused yesterday morning about his own surveillance policy, after he tweeted a statement against his own policy while watching "fox & friends," the second tweet that was sent nearly two hours later that tried to clean up the mess, nbc

reports tonight that that second tweet had to be written for the president by his chief of staff, john kelly. it's still not clear if the president even now understands his own policy well enough to know that he was tweeting against it when he woke up yesterday morning. the cleanup second tweet reportedly written on the president's account by his chief of staff was the one that ended with the words "get smart." now we all have to wonder who was the intended audience for that scolding ending to the statement the president's chief of staff had to write for him. get smart. and it's not like there isn't serious stuff going on for the white house to be handling in between the rakes they are stepping on. when russian military intelligence hacked into the servers of the democratic party during the 2016 election, there was a funny name the hackers were assigned by the security people that figured out it was them. remember they were called fancy bear. fancy bear is a weird name but hacking culture is weird.

that's what security firms call hackers associated with russian military intelligence, and that hack, done by fancy bear, was a big part of how russia tried to tilt the election for trump, by stealing democratic party e-mails and documents and then releasing them online, timed for maximum negative impact. since the election, the associated press got its hands on a list of people and institutions who fancy bear has targeted all over the world with the kind of online traps and tricks they used to steal the dnc emails and the christine e-mails. a.p. reported on how fancy bear has gone after journalist and people in the national security council and retired generals. and it isn't just americans. do you remember when the new president of france was elected this past summer, emmanuel macron. and right before, right before his election, a huge bunch of e-mails stolen from his campaign were dumped online by wikileaks. remember that? apparently that was fancy bear too and a firm called trend micro who figured out that the

macron hack was fancy bear. that fancy bear hacked emanuel macron's e-mails. they figured out it was them and how they did it. that security firm now says that same hacking group, fancy bear, russian military intelligence set up the same system they used to get macron's e-mails with the -- but they've set it up in this country, it's exactly the same trick, has all the same fingerprints on it, except here it's targeting the e-mail system of the united states senate. apparently, what it is is dummy web pages that look like the u.s. senate's internal e-mail system. if this was, if you were russian military intelligence who had done this the first time and it worked great, why wouldn't you do it a second time? the next elections in america aren't another presidential election. it's the legislature. especially if the u.s. government has no interest in stopping the russians.

from doing this again, right? even if our government did somehow grow the will to try to want to stop the russians who believes this white house is capable of leading the charge against russia to get its military intelligence to stop these ongoing attacks? think they'd be good at it? associated press says the fancy bear russia military attacks on the u.s. senate e-mail system were observed in june and also in september. they say it appears that what they're doing is, they're collecting information, looking for information that they're collecting now that they intend to leak later. just like they did to emanuel macron right before his election. if you think that kind of proven ongoing, international, intelligence threat might be top of mind for the white house tonight, i can prove you wrong about that. "the wall street journal" reported this afternoon that the president's personal lawyer paid $130,000 to an adult film star to prevent her from talking

about an alleged affair with the president, an affair that allegedly took place the year after he married his wife melania. "the wall street journal" reported on another woman who had been poised to go public with her story about an alleged affair with the president. that woman who was a playboy model was paid by "the national enquirer" and the publication after they paid her didn't publish it. the journal is reporting today, this other woman was also poised to tell her story right before the election, and she was also paid not to tell her story, but according to "the wall street journal," who she was paid by was the president's personal lawyer. now, the president's lawyer michael cohn, denies this story and produces a letter he says from the woman in question, denying the alleged affair. but then, cnn came out and reported tonight that the woman in question, the woman who is the subject of this "wall street journal" piece, according to cnn, they say she was in touch

with producers at "good morning america" just before the election in 2016. she was prepared to discuss something about her relationship with donald trump before suddenly she cut it off. that was cnn. and "the daily beast" tonight reported that they too were negotiating with this same woman immediately before the election to do an interview with her, concerning her alleged affair with trump when she suddenly backed out five days before the election. so i don't know what keeps people in the white house up these days. the president casually threatening nuclear war with nuclear armed north korea. the president needing to have other people correct his statements because he doesn't seem to understand them. the president's health. the president's swerving into racist tirades in front of a room full of senators, some of whom will be willing to tell other people what the president said. this president is being served by a white house that can't do

things like spell norway or set up phone calls with reporters or properly impersonate the white house physician. well, tonight they are also dealing with multiple pay offs that may have been used to silence the women with which the president is alleged to have affairs. does that keep them up more than usual? is this still a normal day at the office? where do we start? california senator kamala harris is here next. ♪ never going to give you up ♪ ♪

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there's a great district attorney in san francisco whose name is kamala harris.

she's brilliant, she's smart, she doesn't look anything like anybody you've ever seen on law & order. she's tough, she's got a big future. they call her the female barack obama. people aren't very imaginative about these things anymore. >> the late great journalist gwynn eiffel in 2009. the following year, in 2010, kamala harris became california's attorney general. then in 2016, on the same night donald trump won the presidency, kamala harris became only the second black woman ever elected to the united states senate. and honestly, the way she won, she made it look easy. today, there of course, is a problem in the united states senate. after the president chose an oval office meeting attended by a bunch of senators yesterday as the occasion on which he was going to describe immigrants from africa and haiti as coming

from bleep-hole countries. senators durbin and lindsey graham were in the meeting. they are both standing by a multiple-sourced published account that the president did use those words, that language. but senators tom cotton and david purdue, they were also at the meeting and they just can't quite remember, maybe, maybe not, who can say. even though both of these senators, purdue and cotton were in the room, both have put out a joint statement saying they do not recall the president saying these comments specifically. tom cotton and david purdue's selective hearing loss notwithstanding, some other republican senators are finding the stuff hard to swallow. today republican ron johnson said, quote, the best thing the president can do is admit it and apologize for it and move on. you have a certain responsibility, a certainly decorum you have to conduct yourself in public with. you have children watching.

you have nations watching. a stronger statement today from republican senator from georgia, who said that is not the kind of statement the leader of the free world should make and he ought to be ashamed of himself. he owes the people of haiti and all of mankind an apology. so there are republicans in the united states senate who are going to try to act like maybe this didn't happen. but beyond them, there is a bit of a reckoning going on about what the president said and how we should deal with it as a country, what it means for this country, specifically what it means for the legislation that he was discussing when the president said these words. well, no state is home to yore d.r.e.a.m.ers, more daca recipients than the great state of california. one of the most vocal champions for the d.r.e.a.m.ers is california senator kamala harris, who joins us now. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. >> i appreciate your time being here tonight. >> thank you, i appreciate you,

rachel. thank you. >> let me ask you for your top line reaction when you heard the accounts of what the president said in that room? >> you know, listen, the words of a president are very powerful words. and unfortunately, this president has used his words to demean and belittle, instead of uplifting people. and it is deeply troubling. it is unfortunate and it is irresponsible. simply irresponsible. >> the response from senators who were in the room, and i know there's a colleague yalet among senators and there's archaic rules in the way you talk about one another and assessment of another's character. so i don't want you to say anything you're uncomfortable with. but i'm strike by the fact that two senators are saying these

reports are accurate. there are two republican senators who were in the room, senator cotton and senator purdue, who say they don't recall. does that stand? what's your reaction to that? >> i know dick durbin. i have worked with him over the course of the last year on this issue, this is an issue in terms of immigration and in particular, these d.r.e.a.m.ers, that he has worked on for years and years. and i believe dick durbin when he shared with us the president's words. and i don't doubt his word. the other folks are going to have to reconcile their memory, when they look in the mirror and when they talk to themselves or their god, yeah. >> in terms of the context of these remarks by the president, obviously they were talking about immigration policy, they were talking about the d.r.e.a.m.ers, about temporary protected status. senators durbin and graham were there together because they have a bipartisan idea that they think might offer a doable way out of the stand-off that's happening right now over

immigration policy with the fate of these hundreds of thousands of young mepeople in the balanc. where do you think we're going in terms of immigration policy? what are you telling d.r.e.a.m.ers about what's going to happen to them? >> first of all, california has more d.r.e.a.m.ers than any state in the country, and these kids, and in particular, the daca kids, those that were covered by the president's executive action, have been coming to my office on a daily basis. and they're terrified, rachel. they are terrified. i meet them, i'm a public face of this issue, and they come up to me in all places where i am, and they will tell me they are daca, and almost to a one, they just start crying because they're terrified that at any moment they're going to be separated from their families, and they're going to be removed from the only home they've ever known. and what's most insidious about this issue, is that we made these kids a promise, as a country.

the united states of america promised these kids that if they play by the rules, if they give us information about who they are, the circumstances of their arrival. are they living a productive life? we did background checks, have they committed crimes. and if they cleared a vet, we gave them this daca status and we told them, we will not share that information with i.c.e. we will not deport them. now we're at a moment where this administration arbitrarily on september 5th, decided to revoke that promise and then came up with another arbitrary date, march 5th, by which we're going to end the protection of these almost 800,000 young people who, by the way, are in our colleges, in our graduate schools, serving in our military, working in fortune 100 companies. and so my perspective on this is that we need to pass a clean d.r.e.a.m. act. i applaud lindsey graham together with dick durbin. there has been a bipartisan effort, but there has been a

bipartisan expression of concern for protecting these kids. so let's just get it done. and let's stop playing politics with the lives of these young people. it is really -- it's a tragedy. and it is a bad statement when we as leaders, as supposed leaders, are in a situation where people question whether we will keep our word. >> seeing senator lindsey graham work with dick durbin on this, seeing at least some republican senators react with revulsion. i was struck by the strength senator isaacson's statement from georgia, talking about how repulsed he was by the president's remarks and how the president needs to apologize to all mankind. i wonder if you think in real political terms, if you think that there might -- we might be shifting territory here, that there might be enough space for republicans to find compromise ground with democrats on this. i know democrats are unified in terms of wanting to protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers. mostly republicans have been on

the other side of this. do you think there's any shifting ground right now, particularly given this controversy over the president's remarks which explain his motivation on this issue? >> i think there is common ground. and there are many republicans that i have talked with who do have a very honest desire to protect these young people and to figure out a way to do that. and so i do feel a sense of optimism, but i will also say that, you know, on this eve of mlk weekend, where we honor the life and the legacy of dr. martin luther king, it's an interesting coincidence of timing frankly, that the president of the united states would speak the words, the hateful words that he spoke at a time that we are honoring a man who lived and died with the spirit of saying we are one people, and human rights and humanity should be the priority for all of us. it's an interesting moment in

time. and i do applaud those republicans such as johnny isaac son who are standing up to talk about who we are in terms of our better selves. i do believe we're better than this as a country, i really do. >> senator harris, i know it's friday night, but if you don't mind sticking with us through a break, there's one more item i have to ask you about. >> okay. >> that's coming up after this. stay with us. except for these two fellows. this time next year, we're gonna be sitting on an egg. i think we're getting close! make a u-turn... u-turn? recalculating... man, we are never gonna breed. just give it a second. you will arrive in 92 days. nah, nuh-uh. nope, nope, nope. you know who i'm gonna follow? my instincts. as long as gps can still get you lost, you can count on geico saving folks money. i'm breeding, man. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. right back, ok? alriyou going to be alright? (vo) i was born during the winter of '77. my dad said i cried for 3 days straight.

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senator kamala harris, democrat from california. thank you for sticking with us. >> happy to be here. >> i have two last things to ask you about. the first is that you have just been given a seat on the judiciary committee, which is a big deal. there's a lot of controversy right now as to how that committee is doing specifically when it comes to investigating the russia scandal. feinstein released a transcript of a witness before the committee chairman going ahead without the committee, making his own criminal referral to the justice department associated with this scandal. watching the work of that committee, which has this incredibly important remit, it kind of feels like the wheels are coming off. just as an observer, that's how it seems to me. now that you're joining the committee, can you tell us whether you think they're doing a good job investigating the russia scandal and how you plan to approach it. >> i'm also on the senate intelligence committee and we're conducting an investigation into russia's interference into the

election. i'm now one week on the judiciary committee. you mentioned senator feinstein, i applaud her courage, as you probably know, she took a lot of heat for what she did, but she is a tough, strong, public servant who made, i think, the right decision, which is to bring transparency to a process that otherwise has been opaque. and to that extent, her work as ranking member of the judiciary committee, i think, was good work. and the bottom line is, we need to go where the facts take us. we need to get to the end of this, and we've got to make sure that mueller, that bob mueller, stays in place. and that his authority is not interfered with and not impaired in any way, shape, or form. bob mueller is doing, i think, an outstanding job of being a professional. and i know they will lead him to wherever they should. that's how i feel about it overall.

but let's also remember, rachel, i think it's important to bifurcate the issue in some ways, in that there is what happened, and we have to get to the bottom of it, and find out what happened in terms of the past, in particular around the election of 2016, but we need to figure out what's going on currently and look at all this evidence with a mind to what's going to happen in the future. by that, i mean, also understanding that we're not out of the clear in terms of 2018 election cycle. i don't believe we are. i think that russia and probably other adversarial countries taking russia's cue are going to do again what they have already done. so we have to be vigilant in figuring out what happened also so we can prevent this going forward and in particular around the 2018 election cycle. >> you mentioned protecting robert mueller and making sure he's allowed to do his work. i wonder if there have been bipartisan conversations among senators about sort of having a go bag, being ready to go, having a plan in case the

president makes some sort of dramatic action to try to end the mueller investigation through any of of the means he might try to do that. are those conversations happening in terms of how you would respond, and if those happening, are they bipartisan? >> i've been engaged in bipartisan conversations around mutual agreement about the integrity of bob mueller and his investigation. i can't speculate and most of us don't want to speculate about the possibility of anyone firing bob mueller, but if that happens, i think there will be severe consequence. certainly i will be calling for severe consequence. >> i said i only have two questions for you. i lied. >> oh. >> there's another one. i'm sorry. a lot of people are talking about you running for president in 2020, and i bet that's annoying for you to be asked about it constantly. so, sorry. if you are going to think about it, when it the right time to start thinking about it and

talking to people about whether that's a good idea? >> i'm being totally honest and direct with you, rachel. right now, i am completely focused on what's in front of me. back to the beginning of our conversation, daca, we have every day, 122 of these kids who are losing their status. since the decision was made and announced on september 5th of last year, over 15,000 of these kids have lost their status, which means they are afraid that at any moment, someone's going to take them. they cannot work now because they've also lost their authority to work when they lose their status. and we've gotta pay attention to this. we have a deadline coming up of january 19th, which is just days from now. and as far as i'm concerned, everyone should be focused on that, because a day in the life of these kids is a really long time. and focusing on what's out there, instead of what's an urgent matter in front of us today, i think, is -- i'll speak

for myself -- it would be a fool's errand. >> that's a good answer to that question, california senator kamala harris. appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. thank you for all your work. much more ahead tonight, including, you know, i would -- the reason i complimented her on that answer is because everybody in politics who's lucky enough and fortunate enough and has done their job well had enough where they're getting asked about 2020, there's a still to answering that question without talking about 2020, and the presidential election and bringing it back to whatever it is you're doing now, is the right way to do that. whatever it is that you're working on as a politician in any part of our system, if you know you're going to be asked that question, turning it around to what you're working on right now, you should all do that, all you guys. i'm just saying. we'll be right back. stay with us. shawn evans: it's 6 am.

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>> 2016 election like all elections are held on a tuesday. on the friday before the 2016 elections, four days before the election, "the wall street journal" published this story. headline: national inquirier shielded donald trump from playboy model's affair allegation. the 1998 playmate of the year alleged she had engaged in a months' long consensual affair with donald trump in 2006, a year after he married his wife melania.

"the wall street journal" reported that the national inquirer, he had arranged for that woman to not tell her story by buying exclusive rights to her story so he could kill it. that's a thing in the tabloid world, paying for stories to squash those stories, to not publish them. buying a person's silence that way. that is known in the tabloid world as "catch and kill." that's reportedly what "the enquirer" did, paid her $150,000 so she wouldn't tell her story to anyone else. but the details of the arrangement got out. the trump campaign denied it. "the wall street journal" got a little bit of attention, but it was buried by the fact that it came out four days before the election and in the wake of the "access hollywood" tape which led to women accusing trump of sexual misconduct of a non-consensual nature.

that "wall street journal" story did also have one other maybe important detail. the journal reported that there was another woman, stephanie clifford, an adult film star who went by the stage name stormy daniels, the journal reported around the same time as this play boy playmate, miss daniels, had also been involved in discussions with abc to disclose her own prior sexual relationship with donald trump. before she inexplicably cut off contact with abc without telling her strp. stormy daniels once gained notoriety in political circles when she briefly but publicly considered primarying louisiana senator david vitter. but that allegation that she once had a sexual encounter with donald trump, other than that brief mention by the "wall street journal", we never heard anything more about it today. today they report, trump lawyer arranged $130,000 payment for adult film star's silence. this time, according to "the

wall street journal," it was not "the national enquirer," it was the president's personal lawyer, michael cohn, who bought her silence. he reportedly did so in october 2016, one month before the election, as part of an agreement that precluded her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with mr. trump. this is sourced to people familiar with the matter. since this today, both the president's lawyer and stormy daniels have denied the alleged sexual encounter took place. mr. cohn says, these rumors have circulated time and again since 2011. president trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has miss daniels. notably mr. cohn did not address any alleged payment. he also shared a letter that she says is stind by stormy daniels in which she denies that anything took place and denies that she was paid hush money by

donald trump. doesn't say if she was paid hush money by michael cohn. but anyway, if that wasn't enough, now today before we got on the air, t"the daily beast" published this story where it says it too was chasing the stormy daniels story, during the campaign, negotiating with her to go on the record with them. they say they have three sources confirming that a sexual relationship between mr. trump and stormy daniels did take place. "wall street journal" reporter who broke this whole story joins us here next. life happens.

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this is before an alleged hush money payment allegedly a month before he was elected president. i have to tell you, full disclosure, we've known each other a long time. i need to be honest with you. this story makes me want to leave my body many joining us now, mr. rothfeld, i don't mean this as a slight to you. i feel like i have a gigantic case of the uggs even thinking about it. is this a pattern of behavior you feel like you've discovered? >> something that was going on toward the end of the campaign when there were a lot of women coming out and making allegations against donald trump

about inappropriate conduct and assault so they were obviously in panic mode. other women were going to come out and tell their story. there were payments made to tamp down the information. >> since your story has come out today, there was a story that this woman was negotiating with at least two news outlets. despite the fact that those negotiations went on for some time, they cut off very quickly before the election. that's part of this, that she was ready to tell the story about the other part of it, which made it into your headline, she was paid, not to do it. were you able to trace the money? you feel like you've seen documentation of the money?

>> we are aware that mr. cohen arranged for the money to be paid to the bank account of mr. keith davidson, who is stormy daniels lawyer at a bank in los angeles. and we have that from various sources. we have a sense of how that occurred, but at this point we have reported just that that payment was made to that bank. >> can you talk at all whether or not that payment was drawn on trump organization funds or whether or not mr. trump -- there's any indication that mr. trump was aware of these negotiations, these payments? >> we don't know where -- whether the source of the funds was michael cohen himself, mr. trump's lawyer who arranged this deal, we have no evidence that mr. trump knew about it. he's very close to michael cohen, michael cohen worked for him as his primary adviser in

difficult circumstances at the trump organization. >> you describe a 2017 interview, a year ago interview in which mr. cohen described himself as the fix it guy. what does that mean? >> he's the guy who handles threats to donald trump. if there's anybody out there that's causing a problem, or is speaking negatively about mr. trump. they may get a call from michael cohen. he's been called a pit bull, anthony scaramucci was briefly the communications director at the white house, told us for that story, he's the guy you call in the middle of the night at 3:00 a.m. if you have a problem, this is the kind of thing that michael cohen did for the trump organization. >> last piece of due diligence. the picture that accompanies the story shows that ms. daniels and mr. trump have been in the same place at least once. were you able to document any other instances where they seem to be in the same place?

>> we don't know other instances where they were in the same place, we have spoken to at least three people who contemporaneously spoke to stormy daniels about her account of an encounter, sexual encounter with donald trump around that time. >> okay. this is our lives now. michael rothfeld, wall street journal, one of the reporters who broke this story today. thank you for helping us understand it. my name's dustin. hey, dustin. grab a seat. woman: okay. moderator: nice to meet you.

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friday has been a big day for the special council's investigation. it was friday the 27th when we learned robert mueller would issue his first indictment. mike flynn had plead guilty to making false statements. now hey, friday again, tonight bloomberg news is reporting, they are talking to the president's lawyers next week to hash out the terms of president trump's interview with the special council. bloomberg reports tonight that the chat could happen between mueller's team and trump's lawyers, the chat could happen by phone as early as tuesday. but bloomberg is reporting they expect it to take several weeks and a series of additional phone calls until both sides come to agreements for the president's appearance. >> this all comes on heals, it was unlikely he would have an interview with mueller, today we also learned that the special

council has requested his first trial date. mueller's team is asking for may 14th to be the first day of the trial of paul manafort and rick gates. prosecutors say they have completed a substantial portion of discovery in the case, turning up 600,000 documents, including e-mails and financial records. that's a little weird, just a month ago, the mueller team had only produced 400,000 documents. they've increased the amount of documents they're producing to the court by 50% in the space of four weeks? which included christmas and new year's? prosecutors also reported a higher number of electronic devices in their possession than they did a month ago. it was 36. now they're saying they have 87 devices. that they're making available to the court and the defense for moving ahead at trial. you have to wonder what exactly did they stumble upon since this time last month?

we just found 50 more lamb tops by the way. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again on monday. the trump white house is reeling tonight from the impact of something that has never caused a full scale crisis in a white house still in its first year. a book. a book that portrays the president as someone incapable of reading a book. incapable of reading anything of significance. the book represents the president as semiliterate, someone who could not begin to comprehend the chemical weapons attack in syria, and did not want to discuss it, until he was shown large pictures of syrian children literally foaming at the mouth. the book has many new and important insights like that, about how policy, important policy is shaped in the trump white house. but the news created by the book is not about domestic policy, and how