easily. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. good morning, i'm dara brown at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. we made a mistake. the false alarm that triggered 38 minutes of panic in hawaii. >> it's hard to stay calm when you don't know what's happening. >> i wanted to check out and head to the airport because i didn't want to stick around and see if the place was going to get blown up or not. >> i was shaking. it was scary, very scary. >> this morning, what led to the message being sent out. what's being done to make sure it doesn't happen again. and why a normally tranquil place was already on edge. what the president said, or didn't say, about the scare, and his role in the heightened tensions. plus, porn star story.

questions about whether president trump will face any political consequences from it. and we begin with new details out of hawaii, following that false missile alert. the ftc now opening an investigation into the mistaken warning, which led terrified residents and tourists to think the end was imminent. they got their push alerts on their cell, and for the first time this morning, we're hearing the audio recording played on television, and radio. >> the u.s. pacific command has detected a missile threat to hawaii. a missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. this is not a drill. if you win doors, stay indoors. if you were outdoors, seek immediate shelter in a building. remain indoors well away from windows. if you are driving, pull safely to the side of the road and seek schettner a building or lay on the floor. we will announce when the threat has ended. >> a frightening message indeed. nbc's sarah dallof has the story. >> reporter: for nearly 40 minutes saturday, residents and tourists in hawaii feared

nuclear was imminent. after this emergency alert was mistakenly sent to cell phones statewide. >> i just went to a concrete building. >> i was with my two little girls who are 8 and 10, so kids are crying and nobody really knew what to do. >> reporter: panicked people searching for loved ones, seeking shelter and information. >> it was a great deal of disbelief, like is this really happening? >> reporter: officials later apologized at a news conference, for the 38 minutes it took to rescind the alert. they also explained it was human error, and not a computer glitch or hacker that caused the incident. >> the wrong button was pushed on his test. i deeply apologize for the trouble, and heartbreak it caused today. >> reporter: the false alarm comes on the heels of growing nuclear tensions between the u.s. and north korea. hawaiian officials recently reinstated the state's cold war era warning siren system. now those officials are working to reassure residents emergency alert system is reliable. >> we are doing everything that

we can immediately to ensure that it never happens again. >> reporter: the calm of a weekend morning shattered by cell phone alerts. and residents still shaken hours later. sarah dallof, nbc news. president trump spending the weekend at his mar-a-lago resort was briefed on the incident. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more on how the white house responded. >> reporter: good morning, dara. a long weekend here in florida is no escape from controversy, and complex issues for president trump. on saturday, he was at one of his golf courses. we're told he was playing golf at the time that the hawaii alert situation unfolded. there were many in hawaii, and friends and family on the mainland, very alarmed by what turned out to be a false alert about an incoming ballistic missile. the white house tells us the president was briefed by his chief of staff and national security council team. the white house also pointed all questions to the department of defense and said it was a state-controlled issue.

this comes at a time when the president, of course, has recently said he has a very good relationship with north korea's kim jong-un. it's right before the olympics in south korea, where there's a lot of concern about trying to tamp down tensions between the u.s. and south korea, and north korea. that's the backdrop that made this so scary for those in hawaii. also, the president has been grappling with issues made by himself, the immigration debate, the words that he used in a thursday meeting that caused so much controversy. the president's used his twitter feed to talk about democrats, and negotiating on the immigration, saying that they do not want to see a bill happen. we'll see how that plays out over the next several days. but the president clearly trying to direct attention away from the anger over his words, to the larger political issue. the president also using twitter to again go after a frequent and favorite target, what he calls the fake news media and some anger directed toward the author of a new book that has gotten a

lot of attention lately. >> thank you. let's bring in colonel jack jacobs, msnbc military analyst. colonel that message that was played at the top of the hour with that deep and scary voice ended up as a false alarm. but it told people to stay indoors and if you're going outdoors, go indoors. if this were a real attack would that have really helped? >> well, not really. you know, i remember when i was in grade school, and we would have to drill and hide under our desks as if that would really assist. at the end of the day what's our ability of a counterstrike, our ability to knock down incoming missiles, our reliance on cyber countermeasures and so on? no it's not going to help at the end of the day if you're on the wrong end of a thermonuclear device. >> colonel, if this had not been a false alarm how quickly might have a missile reached hawaii? and from the response would it suggest that the state was unprepared on some levels?

>> well, if it's coming from asia, between 20 and 30 minutes depending on who launches it and what kind of vehicle it is. early warning is the best detector. we have heavy reliance on the south koreans to determine whether or not there's been a missile launched from north korea. we've got satellites that can intercept not the actual missile, but can intercept the track of the missile and determine where it's going, and when it's going to arrive there. we've got a lot of information capability, but getting countermeasure capability, that's something else again. >> and would hawaiians have reacted the same way if this false alarm came before president trump took office? >> there's an interesting question. i think there's been a lot of bellicosity in the media on both sides. there's no doubt about the fact north korea has nuclear weapons, will continue to develop nuclear

weapons, and its delivery capability, no matter what we say or do. so public discourse is not going to have the very big impact on the actuality of north korean nuclear development and delivery capability. however, like i said, if you're on the wrong end of a thermonuclear device, it doesn't much matter who the president of the united states is, it's not going to be very good for you. >> and colonel, the white house statement pointed out that the false alarm was triggered during a state exercise. but officials in hawaii say it was human error made during a shift change when a worker pressed the wrong button. which of these is more likely to be true? >> well, i understand it's the shift change and human error, and human error, no matter what the circumstance is, that's going to figure very heavily on the outcome. what this means is that both the states, and the federal government have to work very hard to make sure that the flow of information is accurate. that the capability to determine the genuine accuracy and to

verify the information, is working, and that there is good training, there are good procedures, and most of all, good supervision at the point of decision, otherwise this sort of thing is going to happen again. or there will be an actual launch, and the public will not be informed. >> colonel jack jacobs, great to have you here on this sunday morning. thanks for joining us. now to new details in the fight to protect the so-called dreamers. the trump administration appearing to back out of the legal battle it waged to end the daca program. announcing just before midnight it will once again accept renewals. the announcement coming days after a judge blocked president trump's decision to end the obama-era program. democrats now insisting on a clean dream act in the wake of the derogatory comments president trump allegedly made about haiti, el salvador and africa. later today, civil rights activists, including reverend william barber, will lead a march to trump tower and join in solidarity with these countries in the name of dr. martin luther

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i know firsthand that what happened today was totally unacceptable, and many in our community was deeply affected by this, and i'm sorry for that pain and confusion that anyone might have experienced. >> hawaii governor david ige apologizing for yesterday's missile scare that caused 38 minutes of terror on the pacific island. let's bring in melanie zanona and kevin cirilli.

melan melanie, let's start with you, while hawaiians were frantically rushing for cover the president did not release a statement, nor a tweet, in fact he didn't even leave the golf course. why would he keep quiet during all of this? >> well, let me just start by saying this is, i think, a huge wake-up call for most of america. this is not something that most of us have had to think about for many decades, or at least not certainly in my lifetime. but, to have the administration, first of all, pin this mistake on to the state agency, which is correct, in hawaii, but there's a lot of questions about what the administration and staff members and cabinet members, were they trained to handle this sort of thing? why weren't there protocols put immediately into place to protect the president? the reports that we're getting is that there was a lot of confusion. a lot of people were caught off guard by this. and certainly, it's inexcusable that these sorts of exercises and training were conducted earlier, especially with heightened tensions between the united states and north korea at an all-time high. >> and kevin, president trump's relationship with north korea

has been tumultuous and he repeatedly calls kim jong-un little rocket man. how do these types of comments contribute to the 38 minutes of chaos in hawaii? >> well, look, i mean it is completely, completely inexcusable what happened in hawaii. there's likely going to be congressional hearings. there's likely going to be investigations. and yes, while the president is right to melanie's point that this is really the result of state government officials, the fact that the president of the united states is on a golf course, during 38 minutes of a false alarm, when americans are scrambling for shelter, they think a nuclear bomb is going to go off, and this is what's going on. i mean, this is a -- this is, to say that state and local government officials were flat-footed is an understatement. and the human error -- there's no excuse for this. there is absolutely no excuse for this. and likely the federal government splutly has a role here in oversight of these types of human errors. >> and kevin, to your point, the

ftc has opened an investigation into this. but the response in hawaii, it was clearly messy. professional golfer charles howe in ohioee at the time of the scare said part of you thinks you grab a mai tai, go to the beach and grab a front row seat. was hawaii prepared if this was not a drill? >> i was going to say my grandfather actually lives in hawaii and i spoke to him yesterday, and he's lived there for 40 years now, and has never experienced anything like this. and when i called him, i said grandpa what did you do when you guys got this alert on your phone? he said we didn't know what to do. we were thinking about going underneath the table. he had company over actually there were five of them sitting around, they had no idea what to do. and you would think that hawaii would be one of the more prepared states, it is within range but look, i think there's also a difference between the civilian prepared side, and the military preparedness side. the military, of course, has been prepared and doing these sorts of exercises for months. but i think the -- it is a

wake-up call for a lot of people in america, and i think there's going to be a lot of efforts under way after this. not only are you going see congressional hearings, but the cdc is going to be working with local and state governments to make sure that everyone is adequately prepared for something like this if it were to happen. >> and kevin, what's your take? do you think hawaii was prepared for this? >> i think that they were as prepared as they could be. but i mean if they're government officials and authorities are giving them false information about a nuclear bomb attack, people need to lose their jobs over this. i mean, the anger, i think, for an entire island that they should feel, i mean these are americans who literally thought they were living out the last days of their life for 38 minutes. i mean let's put this in perspective here. what if that happened in the mainland, so to speak, at a city, i mean, what would that have caused to traffic? what would that have caused to people trying to get out of where they were. this is awful. i mean, i can't say that enough. and so these investigations are going to be long-term and they're also going to be

hot-headed. because this is inexcusable. >> and before you two go, the white house is disputing a quote from donald trump's recent interview with "the wall street journal" where it quotes him saying i probably have a very good relationship with kim jong-un. while the president is insisting he said i'd probably have a good relationship with kim jong-un. press secretary sarah sanders is saying that the fake news is at it again. do you think it's a coincidence that he's clarifying this the day after the hawaiian missile scare? melanie, then kevin? >> it is curious that it took the white house this long to dispute a quote from "the wall street journal," and one that they participated in, and we had the transcript. but, look, i think with -- in respect to the president's comments here with his relationship with north korea, we've got a lot of questions. is he being strategic here? is he just sort of blustering. you know, just in general the policy with north korea, there's been a lot of question marks, and i think incidents like yesterday only further heighten those tensions, and scares. >> and kevin? >> i would just quickly add that typically president trump or

candidate trump whenever he gives interviews and is asked about whether or not he has a good relationship with any world leader his standard answer is always well i would likely have or i'd have probably a good relationship with anyone. look i haven't heard the transcripts, so, you know, i'll leave it up to viewers to decide. >> melanie and kevin. hang with us, please, because we have much more to talk about on this sunday morning. >> yes, always busy. >> and the growing reports of an alleged affair and payoff involving a porn star and the president, and whether this is a story that will stick. but first, "saturday night live" featured a recently fired and fired up steve bannon, who once served as trump's chief strategist. >> the can of magic is still out there, steve bannon the bannon cannon, magic, magic, king of kingmakers, the bannon dynasty is dawning. >> uh-huh. and what are you doing now? >> i'm working on a web series for crackle.

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he has consistently tried many things to really attack the media, the credibility of the media, for example, and his base supports him. >> and melanie, in this sense, is the president, do you think he's going to come away unscathed? >> well, you know, the one difference i would point out, while it is true he's been dogged by these sorts of allegations about his sexual behavior this is coming amidst the back drop of the me too movement. and you better believe that the democrats are going to keep the spotlight on him and his behavior. we have his state of the union address coming up, for example, and we already know democrats are planning on inviting victims of sexual assault. the me too founder has been invited to this. and there's also some bipartisan bills that are coming up in congress. so there really could be, at least in the public, messaging sense, there could be an impact, and it's hanging over the agenda right now. and it could really be a distraction for the president. >> kevin, does any of this impact the evangelical support that trump has? >> that's a really great question. because i remember when you talk to evangelical leaders, and i

just spoke with actually one of those leaders just the other day, following the -- the other latest controversy where president trump reportedly criticized african nations, el salvador, and other countries, as expletive holes, and, no, their support is still strong amongst evangelicals with the president. and they feel that they believe him. they believe that he is someone who -- that they can still get by. we have not seen evangelical support deteriorate behind this president. >> melanie i want to quickly ask you about steve bannon because he's supposed to talk to the house intel committee tuesday. what is the level of risk for the president with bannon's testimony? >> well, it's also really interesting timing because it's coming in the wake of the fire and fury book, and the president didn't accept his apology. so bannon is feeling really isolated, and abandoned by the white house right now. is he going to torch trump in thisible ter view? the congressional investigators are going to have scores of questions for him. bannon of course was an

instrumental figure at the tail end of that campaign. he's going to be asked about whether there was contact with the russians. whether there was any coordination with wikileaks to get dirt on hillary clinton. and what did the president know, if anything, about that trump tower meeting. so there is a real risk here for the president. jared kushner, we also know bannon has made no secret about his feelings towards the president's son-in-law, so there really could be a risk for the administration here. >> and kevin what's your take? do you think there's a risk with bannon speaking on tuesday? >> if you read his on-the-record remarks in "fire and fury" which he has not refuted, yeah, there's significant risk simply because he is aggressive to melanie's point absolutely attacking senior administration level officials, including members of the president's very own family. the question is, is that commentary, or does he have facts, or does he have additional facts, and evidence to support what his commentary is? and that's what's unknown at this point. but should he have some information from his time in the white house? or even from his time at trump

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