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the wake of the latest controversial marks. can politicians come together to make a deal? >> fake news, president trump continues to attack the news media in a barrage of tweets. the president claims he was misquoted about his relationship with kim jong un. the social media storm in the aftermath of a false alarm in highway that sent people running for cover. >> the u.s. pacific command has detected a missile threat to hawaii. a missile may impact on land or sea in minutes. this is not a dral. why some are calling on the president to take some responsibility for the scare, but in the hours after that false alarm, all we got was this tweet from president trump about fake news and attacking main stream media. they don't really want it, they want to talk and take separately needed money away from our military. his words on twitter this
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morning as the federal government begins accepting renewal requests from dreamers. jeff bennet is live in west palm beach, florida. what we have heard from the president this morning, the white house weighing in minimally yesterday about what happened in hawaii. >> the president said nothing, david, about what happened in hawaii. he uses his twitter account to weigh in on a number of things. he has not weighed in yet about what happened in hawaii, and we have no other statement beyond what the white house said yesterday other than it was a state exercise. the white house seems very elect tant to take any ownership from this because it did not come from the federal level. >> what happens with the president's legislative priorities. only a few days until we reach a deadline point.
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we talked about daca, but what about the basics here of funding the government to go forward? >> coming to some sort of resolution about daca is key to unlocking an agreement on funding the government. as you point out the government is set to run out of money on friday. democrats and republicans sprat from the larger debate about what the president did or did not say, the alleged comments about haiti or africa, they know they have to find a resolution for the 800,000 young people brought to the country illegally in part because of the government funding dell line and you have three former dhs chiefs. for them to implement whatever d the president coming up with, they say they will need a few months to implement it. being mid january, convenient for them also aligns with the funding de funding deadline, david. >> of course, any hopes of
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getting a deal done on daca took a serious hit last thursday when president trump reportedly used a slur in describing haiti. with us now is the washington post reporter that broke the story and also is the colleague, eugene scott. let me start with you ask and you what you made of the reaction from that piece from the comment itself. what about when you first heard of that. what do you make of the response from the white house in particular? >> the white house has not said a lot other than the president's tweets when he is saying he did not make those exact comments. we heard from sources what the president said, we took it to the white house and told them word for word what we would be reporting and we did not get a deny. you saw dick durbin confirm the president said. lindsey graham told tim scott that the president said it.
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senator purdue and cotton are not saying they heard exactly that, it is becoming a bit of a partisan football game here. >> you have heard the president say things that upset members of congress before. what do you make of that response? >> i think it is fascinating that we have senators and cabinet nebrasmembers willingly digging their hands in the sand about this. they say they don't remember hearing this in the meeting, and some senators saying they did. so is the party kind of -- i think it is so political at this point, but i just think you look at rand paul who is defending donald trump, and people pretending they didn't hear it and they're enabling him, protecting him, defending him, and that is more scary to me than hearing this from the president because he made a lot
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of racist comments before. >> where are we in terms of momentum. you heard lawmakers speaking to reporters out of the white house. we heard more from republicans and democrats and it seems like a debate is under way. what this means for the president's agenda overall. >> we're talking about a party that knows they're having a very difficult time with black voters. especially following elections in alabama and virginia. what we're seeing is top officials from the republican national committee do is swash this to move on to something towards something else hoping that this will not dominate the cycle completely. this house is already not doing well for minority voters. >>. >> in light of what was said in
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the oval office, let's talk about that and the ramifications of it. what lead to that meeting and those remarks being made. there was a deal brokered in the congress, they came to the oval office and they agree the scene was not what they expected. what lead to the president making those remarks. >> they came to the oval office ready to present a deal. we saw the televised meeting pretty remarkable. he said bring me something and i will sign it. not to their knowledge, other conservative lawmakers were there. and the president and the conservative lawmakers did not take the proposal well from senators graham and durbin. the meeting quickly became contentious, and that's when the president made the remarks that we reported. >> i want to ask you graham's r
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particular. he came out with a statement, he is someone in a developed more of a closeness in the last few months. they played golf together and have a friendship between the two of them, what do you make of the role he played in that meeting and his response to it? >> he has tried to thread the needle here. he has said "i said my peace directly to the president." he was also boxed in by senator durbin who said i commend my colle college for standing up. shep a more chatty lawmaker. he put out one statement that said he had something to say to the president, but in the meeting he was apparently the person who pushed back to the president and said he did not agree with these comments. >> where do we go from here?
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i will real read from the democrats again. >> they say they just want to take money from our military. what do you make of dick durbin and the role that is played here. the building of a wall and all of the expenses that were delivered. where do things go from here for daca and the policy. >> i think it is interesting when he is the one using dreamers as leverage for his wall that a lot of people said would not accomplish what he hoped. he said he would make mexico pay for it, and i don't know if a deal is going to happen. >> about this wall, the president is still holding on to it. i mentioned the list being delivered to dick durbin, an $18 million expense to build the wall. do you see any difference?
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>> we still see a strong core of people. i think the thing that the president has to remember is that when you're running for reelection, as he is, and when ewe going into midterms as the party is, the goal is not to appease who is already part of your base, but to add new people into your group of supporters. right now when you see the president attacking democrats and putting forward ideas, thej want themselves. >> could not win with a shirt of the elector ratate. >> not at all. >> now we move on to hawaii. a false alarm caused panic for half an hour. the fcc investigating what went wrong. the chairman releasing a statement saying the false
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emergency was unacceptable. it appears the governor of hawaii did not have reason safeguards in place to prevent the transmission of a false alert. you were looking at how hawaii rep prepares for something like this. what are the an answered questions yet. what do they have to figure out here in the coming do. >> when you look at what he said there, it is interesting. i imagine they're trying to get rid of the pand moan pandemoniu. they no long ver just one person in the room, and they can cancel
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message that goes out like that. we're looking at exclusive footage from in that room. we have a look at what it takes to send a message like that. they say this is not a drill. this was a click of a wrong button by a state official. it sent people into panic mode here. people in washington dc asking for answers. >> the fact that these processes failed so epicly that caused this trauma, that caused this terror aross hawaii must be held accountable. >> the add min stray or of the agency responsible for this
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happening was on the air earlier and he said he accepts full responsibility. the government has come up and apologized to the people of rise and the united states. it will be a conversation topic because of the fear it caused here in hawaii. especially with tensions to high in north korea. >> president trump declaring daca dead one day after the federal government announced they would resume accepting applications for the program. what it will take to reach a deal for the bannon is back. with 33 individual vertebrae and 640 muscles in the human body, no two of us are alike.
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welcome back, president trump pointing the if i thinker this morning. he says daca is probably dead because the democrats don't really want it. they just want to talk and take money from our military. and then he said i, as president, want people coming into our country who want us to be strong again. no more lotteries lotteries #americafirst. it is the deferred action for
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chi childhood arrivals. joining me is erica, she was a aide to presidential candidate bernie sanders. >> the fact is they're still getting it done. on the 19th there is a vote to keep the government open, to make sure the government is funded and we have been asking over and over again to democrats right now that this is a time to stop playing games with trump. he doesn't want this to happen, he has already basically signalled this through his actions and the fact is that democrats do have the ability to do this, you know by using their leverage. so we're going to have to push through this. we're hoping they do the right thing, and right now it's not able whether or not trump is racist or not, we think that is a given. she a white sprupremacist. he is a racist. we need to figure out how to
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make daca permanent per section. >> when you look at the policy track, is it a distraction or anything more to you? >> it's a distraction. i don't want a conversation or debate whether or not trump said what he said about folks from haiti. or not, the fact is that we need a conversation on whether or not daca is right to fiction right now or want. and if they don't want that they need to say that but they have been saying they want it. we need to get it done and make sure that we're protecting people from haiti who have tps and that is not the case. so this can no longer be a debate of whether or not he said or didn't say what he said, and i'm just really tired of hearing about when there is people like myself who are really worried right now and losing protection. >> i want to ask you, looking for indications of how the white house plans to go forward beyond the 280 characters he has as his
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disposal. let's take a listen at what she had so say. i do not believe that daca is dead, but from my perspect e perspective, it is not a daca deal, it is a security administration deal. i want to ensure that we don't end up here again. wed want to close the loopholes so that the populations not only take the dangerous journey to get here, but we end up with this again. >> is it the president, seemingly contradicting what the department of homeland security said here, who are you listening to going forward to decide when or if this gets done? >> i'm going to try to figure out as much as we can and people who are right now pushing for, you know, the dream act, trying to get this. about 18 democrats in the senate
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that voted last time for the cr to continue to fund the government, to now stand with us and use leverage as a party in the senate. they voted for the cr without the traek act. and now we have to pass it through the spending bill. we're doing rallies. . i was sitting in the last few weeks, to please use our leverage to make sure this bill is in the spending bill and if it is not in there they should not be voting for it. >> still ahead, a different kind of fire and fury. we're going to delve into the discussion, but first, bannon faces his own roasting for saturday night live.
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welcome back, to the russia investigation, now steve bannon will testify before the house intelligence committee on tuesday in closed session. to prepare the former white house chief of staff and current white house council don mcgann. here is the expectations for bannon's testimony. >> he could be very significant. it is attributed to him in that book that he thought the meeting was treasonous and unpatriotic. he was sure the president had been made aware of this and that the president met people that came to this meeting. so obviously that is a key issue we we want to employer with him. >> joining me now is chuck, a
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former reporter, first, let me ask you for your thoughts on what this committee is interested in hearing from steve ban non bannon. how much is that the focus here on tuesday? >> there is lots and lots of questions that a prosecutor wants to ask mr. bannon when he is testifying on the hill. if it were me, i would like to know what he saw, what he heard, who was this, what he said, his characterizations of what happened are less important than the facts of what happened. >> the fact that he hired this attorney, william burke, the washington post reporting here it also covered his role on trump's campaign while bannon was a top aide to trump in the white house. you can play the term
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humoristic. he lost two jobs here in the last month or so, give us a sense here of what this means, the fact that he hired the outside council. >> it is smart to hire an attorney. you want someone to talk to that will be looking out for your interests. it is interesting to me, david, that he has the same attorney, but what that tells me as a former prosecutor is they don't believe there is a conflict between any of the three clients, meaning he can represent each one of them without creating any conflict. it means they're probably not targets of the investigation. >> senior senator from california released the transcript of glenn simpson's testimony. what did you make of her doing that and as you look through
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that transcript did anything stand out to you? >> why he did it, i'm not really a political guy. lots of people can probably answer that better than i can. what instruct me is that nothing really struck me. it seemed like, it seemed like what mr. simpson was describing is a company that did business for whoever hired it, and they were trying to get to the questions that were raised. they have an intelligence background in the u.k. this is what we have, this is what we saw, what struck me is that nothing really struck me. this is what companies do. >>. >> chuck grassley cried foul. let's listen to what she had to
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say. >> they're ability to get witnesses like kushner. >> i don't think so, that has been difficult in any event. they brought this information in to the fbi, and it is quite amazing that you get punished for providing information. >> i want to get your sense of where you think we are. you have the senate intelligence committee, the house intelligence committee, it is a smaller and smaller pool of individual that's have not testified yet. >> yeah, that's right. the investigation that matters to me as a former prosecutor and i'm showing my bias is moouelles investigation. it is the one that matters to me and here is why.
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it carries significant risk for some folks of convictions and imprisonment and all of the things that surround that. by the way, i would have to say that it doesn't concern me so much, that the transcript was releasted. it is out there, the fact that he made the statements is not going to under mine his work. and lots of folks are making statements. lots of people would keep it narrow and focused. >> great perspective, thank you. still ahead, pornstar payoffs. reports that trump's former attorney organized a payoff to a born star. we'll break down headlines from a very busy week.
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the rest of the country, the leaders in washington, i hope they pay attention that this threat of nuclear war, a nuclear attack, is not a game. this is real, and this is what the people of hawaii just went through. >> 38 minutes on edge. that's how long it took for suicides and tourists to be informed that the island was actually not under attack. so far no response, but there is
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a couple of headlines including a lower from the president paid off an adult film star before the 2016 election. the $130,000 to a woman known as stormy daniels. and he said "i have a good rip with jim jong un of north korea. i said i didn't have that, i said i'd have a good relationship with kim jong un, a big difference. joining us now is michael steele and steve shale. michael, let me start with you. was it a a big deal for him to respond? >> just another normal, dull
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week, huh? >> it is a remind near critical systems, like the emergency notification system, like our missile defense, are not up to the task of dealing with these threats. so i think that the president should weigh in. he should have weighed in already, and i also hope that leaders in congress, republicans and democrats, will come together to address these gaping holes in our response. >> steve, what did you make of it? it may cause folks in washington to take this threat more seriously. what did you think when that alert went out? >> it is a company tear in how dysfunctional this is. i hope we can put politics aside and figure out what happened and make sure it never happens again. >> michael, a quote here, let me read the lead to the story. a lawyer for president trump
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arranged a $130,000 payment to a former adult fill star a month before the 2016 election as part of an agreement precluded her from publicly successing and alleged sex ual encounter with mr. trump. what's your take away from what you read in the journal? >> i don't have any idea. i think the fact that it appears in the wall street journal is probably telling. it just brings back up this under lying auora of sleaze. some of his past employees, people he has associated with, it is a reminder of where he comes from and how it keeps reaching back to haunt him in the office? >> is it true that he made this payoff?
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is it political? is it personal as they're saying an indication of what this plan is like? >> i think it is interesting in some ways, there is some americans that will be some that support him will say there is no way he did this, others say we're going to go in a different direction. >> the president tweeting about it, a lot of blame being levies by the president saying the daka deal falling a part is because of the democrats. he imposed a deadline on this. he put daca in the per view of congress. how do you see it going forward? >> here is florida, this is
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really important to us. and every day this goes by, it franly just creates uncertainty. i think he needs to stand up. many of whom in my state transfer responsibility. >> you had lawmakers coming the to white house with a deal, where do you see things going especially as we approach that friday deadline ahead of a. >> whole or house, and that is the determines factor of why he blew it up. i think it is ridiculous. i think he asked congress to come forward with a solution. i think there was good faith negotiations going on, i think
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the next day where he blew it up. the point is we face a government shut down and a huge looming immigration crisis. and now we are back on the funding issue. >> another big issue. still ahead, jerry magerrymande us, on the eve of martin luther king jr. day, a look at race relations in the country 50 years later. >> they ask me what about race relations in the united states. they were pretty bad under barack obama, that i can tell you. and at our factory in boston, 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the
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welcome back. 50 years ago, americans got equal right to vote and now there are several current cases that could have an event on that. they agreed to hear a case on race based gerrymandering in texas. the justices may have to make another decision on a case in north carolina. that state is asking the treatment court to delay a
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ruling struck down this week for districts drawn by republicans as unconstitutional. let me just start with the case for texas headed to the court. as we look ahead to november, what clarity do you have about what will be settled for then. >> we don't know how the court will rule on any of these, you talk about the text caas case. we're still running under interim lines. we know they have been found to violate the voting rights act. they were found in san antonio on numerous occasions. some of the problems on the map,
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some of the blatant discrimination will be rectified. this is just one case in north carolina, but they're also looking at partisan jerry marg r gerrymandering in wisconsin. >> you know texas well, i grew up in north carolina, there was districts drawn based on race there. then you had remember lawmakers drawing them based on political leanings and that was recently thrown out. how should this be done? we're at a point now where they should be combined. what would you like to see? >> i would like to see all 15 states get to a point where state light chers are not growing congressional districts.
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if it wasn't so serious, it would be funny and humorous about people getting into arguments about whether or not their grand kids private schools are in their congressional districts. if the football stadium or the local university will be in their districts. people get really bent out of shape about this. >> if you had an independent panel draw these lines it would be better for the people. only behind california. only one seat has been contested. and that is the district that has piggy backed between a democratic seat and we're going to be trying to get seat back. that is ridiculous that a state like texas does not have more competitive seats. a nonpar isn't a panel, a citizens panel with people who
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have been heavily involved in the political process, i think they would have a better result. >> they are saying that they should be able to pick their representatives. lastly as we look at this how worried are you thaw this will not be settled before then and what are the ramifications of this. >> right now we have primaries coming up in texas on march the 6th. we're out here, we're new yorking -- knocking and doors and going to events. we're moving forward like the election is going to take place under the interim lines that we have been using since the 2012 election cycle. hopefully this problem will be
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fixed. a court that said discriminatory. so hopefully we'll get relievre but right now we're moving forward, on march 6th as far as i'm concerned. >> a couple quick questions here on other topics while you're here. the congressional black caucus talking about censuring the president in light of what was said in the oval office. are you in favor of that happening and how do you see that proceeding? >> oh, i actually retweeted from chairman richmond and the congressional black caucus had sent out a tweet on thursday night, and i retweeted it about just how racist this is, and i heard congressman clyburn, who's our assistant leader, i heard him talking about the possible censure of some of the news shows and absolutely, i support a censure. i think it was blatantly racist. and even though steve bannon is gone from the white house, you still have a character like stephen miller that as has made
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very provocative statements as it relates to race and immigration. and so, i think that if you go back and you start investigating this and start finding out exactly what made him say the reprehensible things that he said about haitians and about africans, i guarantee that it goes back to conversations that he's had with stephen miller. and i thought the fact that he would throw norway in there and say we should have people come in from countries like norway instead, i thought that it was very racist, and it just reminded me of something that you may have heard like in the early 20th century as it relates to immigration policies in this country, and it's embarrassing and it hurts our standing around the world. >> all right, the gentleman from the 33nd district in texas, marc veasey, good to have you here. on the eve of martin luther king jr. day, we commemorate what he fought for, including the voting rights act of 1965. earlier, reverend al sharpton spoke with dr. king's son, martin luther king iii, about
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his father's legacy 50 years after he was assassinated in memphis. >> a year later, are you disappointed in president trump? do you think any of what you said got through to him? >> it's not evident that it got through. it does not seem like it. yes, i'm disappointed. >> joining me is republican consultant, sher michael singleton and rashad robinson. rashad, let me just get your opinion on that. here we are many decades after that act was codified and put into law. how worried about its longevity are you? >> incredibly worried. i mean, at the time, the voting rights act was a compromise. it was the best possible thing we could get in 1965. and to see it attacked now and to see so many of the stories that are popping up around the country of people being stopped at the polls, of people not being able to exercise their franchise. we are deeply worried, but we
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recognize that this requires a new movement, not just to defend the voting rights act but to dream about and push forward to all the policies that we actually need to put in place -- early voting, same-day registration, ending the restrictions on formally incarcerated peoples' rights to vote. we need a 21st-century voting rights act, a constitutional amendment, per se, for the right to vote, the type of things that will put in place the things we need for the future. and so, recognizing all the attacks on the past but building a movement that's actually going to put in place the things we need moving forward. >> sher michael singleton, i want your take on that as well. we've seen some erosion of that law as recently as 2013, of course, the preclearance part of that law taken away by the supreme court. how worried about it are you? >> i'm extremely worried. and you pointed out earlier with the congressman, you mentioned north carolina. if you recall, the state court in north carolina stated that the state legislature drew
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racial lines that were almost surgical precise as far as targeting african-americans. i think the same would apply to texas. but just to let the audience know how engrained gerrymandering is in our society, if you go all the way back to 1788 when patrick henry and his anti-federalist allies were in control of the virginia house of delegates, even at that point in time, they were drawing a line through virginia's fifth congressional district to keep james madison out from winning the seat. so, this isn't a new problem. but what i would like to see is an independent commission, similar to what the congressman mentioned, similar to what you see in the united kingdom, in australia, that it's independent, it's objective, and it makes sure that you don't see partisanship or hyperha hyperpartisanship impacting certain things over olthz others. >> we've heard about electoral integrity, often a code word for new restrictions or requirements placed on those for going to the polls. do you see that as an answer here? is a commission necessarily the best path forward? >> i mean, the devil's in the
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details with a commission. and who puts the commission in place? who's on the commission? i think that sometimes we talk about commissions and washington, d.c., likes to talk about it and things that they can in and of themselves not be partisan or not have sort of a political bent. the fact of the matter now is that the stories that are continuing to come out require more and more people to get involved and fight for the right to vote the same way we are fighting for so many other issues. and that will get us to the place when a commission is actually put in place where it will have the type of leverage so that they'll recognize that they've got to move forward with common-sense approaches that make the right to vote expansive, bring more people to the polls, not less. >> sher michael, let me ask you about lessons learned from the special election in alabama. there was so much rhetoric surrounding turnout and who turned out and the size of the turnout that could be construed as a coded language. what'd you make of what we learned from that election in alabama? >> i'm not surprised at all. when the gop backs someone like
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roy moore, you cannot expect minorities to sit idly by and not come out and vote and speak with their votes. i think for the republican party, and this is something that i've always advocated for when you look at a lot of the rhetoric coming from the president that's divisive, that divides the country even further, you cannot have the expectation that minorities and other individuals who don't feel put down, who don't feel that they are part of the conversation, a part of the process, to, again, just not be active. and so, what i expect, at least looking at a lot of the numbers, republicans probably will lose the house this year, and i think when you think about the implications long term as a republican strategist, i am concerned, as the demographics show, that the country's becoming more diverse, and people never forget how you make them feel. so if you're thinking about these long term, trying to do some projections, the republican party should be extremely concerned about our ability to maintain some type of electoral edge or competitive edge going forward. >> great to speak with both of
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