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she's a crooked one. there is no question. you know that term is really stuck and everyone is -- has anyone seen crooked hillary clinton today. >> so little time and so many nick names. it is where we'll end things tonight as we start a new week together. that's a broadcast for a monday evening, thank you very much for being here with us, good night from our nbc headquarters here in new york. this is chromium, atomic number 24. you need chromium to make stainless steel. chromium is a useful and a necessary thing in modern life. minding and processing tend to be very, very toxic and enterprises. even if you like chrome, you would not be psyched to live near or have your kids living near a chromium shelter,
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one-third of all the chromium in the world apparently comes from here, this former soviet facility in western kazakhstan. mark chamber on bloomberg news did a report on how toxic and dwyer the conditions are in that facility. he got a simple, sad story of the finances of that place and how it produces a third of the chromium in the world ended connected to the president of the united states. when the soviet union broke up and former states tried to create a new post economic systems for themselves. one of the things that happened like this plant, like this chromium facility like the people that worked there were given shares in the place they worked at. they were going to be employee owners. mark champion reports on those regular employees working on
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this toxic conditions to supply the world with chromium, they were forced to give up those shares and sell their shares and sell them for basically nothing. the entity on the other end of that forced transaction, for which they were forced to sell their share was like a random no named company registered in the british virgin islands. in congress when you are looking at these pictures of these landlock central sanitation toxic sites producing chromium in the world, british virgin islands, really? so the people who were working at this chromium plant were basically robbed of their equity. all right, they used to be employee owners and they at least used to have shares and
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they work in dire toxic conditions and efforts have been made to obscure who really owns that place and who's reaping the financials and rewards of the gigantic plant. bloomberg report that is the controlling interest in that plant is held by this guy, you do not need to remember this name. his brother created a p pronounceable company called bay rock. felix sater he was the one that worked with trump. during the campaign he signed a letter of intent to pursue trump
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tower must skoscow. >> he was the guy that was the brother of the chromium plant. bay rock was headquartered in trump tour. bay rock is the company that developed the trump soho. a former finance director brought a lawsuit last year that alleged at least $10 million of the money behind bay rock came straight out of that chromium plant in kazakhstan. around the same time of those allegedly ill gotten games smuggled out of that plant in kazakhstan and given to bay rock. bay rock at the same time was bragging publicly about being substantially funded by another medal fortune from kazakhstan from that same country. most of the medtal wealth of tht country is controlled by a trio of three billionaires. those three guys formed a
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holding company that tried to go kind of legit. they tried to list themselves on a stock exchange. they tried to go public >> translator: and in london in 2007, it turns out to be a terrible move. you have to be able to account your own actions for your accounts and finances. it created a huge scandal on the london's stock exchange. it triggers a series of -- they were forced to become a private company. here is how the financial times reported when the company got yanked. quote, "scandal hit eurasian natural resources corporation."
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one top shareholder says the company's overall corporate governance should have set off alarm bells. the investor told ft, quote, "the rnc was a company that should not be listed and should be left alone." another top 30 investors in the company says "this is not good for shareholders for the city of london or anyone, it highlights the dangers of buying into the company of poor and corporate governan governance." these guys were so corrupt that they embarrassed the stock market. one of the guys who ran that apparently repulsively corrupt companies. one of the three guys controlled metals in kazakhstan and the guy that's famous for his 300-foot long yacht. a strategic investor, that he
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bragged, behind bay rock. again, what that company was able to do is come up with the money for trump's soho. so kazakhstan's story number one. next time you see something chrome plated, take a deep breath and cough it out and think of the trump's soho. that's trump's kazakhstan story number one. kazakhstan story number two, it is about b 2. sk kazakhstan is the ninth largest country in the world. it is a quarter of the size of the united states. bta bank was the biggest bank. in 2009, the chairman of that bank disappeared and fled the country. what they found after he was gone that about half of the loan book for the entire bank, half of the loan back for the biggest bank of the country appears to
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be loans that the chairman made to himself. he like invent little companies anomaly create little companies and he would give them incredibly generous loans. he was loaning money to himself, billions of dollars and he disappears with the money. need less to say that he was not planning to pay any of those loans. he turned up in the uk, living in a 15,000 square feet home and 100 acres country estate. the only problem of him living in london, british courts convicted him of billions dollars for r ththat bank. he fled the u.k. which he also liked very much. he had a nice villa which was lovely until it turned out all the people working around his villas who he thought was gar n
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gardeners were police in disgui disguise. so they got him. it was many years of them trying to find and trace that billions of dollars. bloomberg news reported in december on court filings that alleged that some of that money, some of that kazakhstan money can also be traced to trump soho. three trump soho condos that were bought. 2013 were all bought through shell companies but traced to the family of that guy who misappropriately gotten billions of dollars out of that bank. >> so kazakhstan story number one, chrome. and two is that guy hiding h is money and both of them with
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tru trump soho and getting the loop. here is kazakhstan story number three. this one also relates to bta bank, the biggest one. another place besides trump soho where it looks like the bta where the bank money went is here in the nation of georgia, forbes reported this a few months ago. the story was about this sort of, sad sack down in georgia called batumi. i do not mean to be rude. looks like a nice place. by sad sack, i mean this looks like this town was used for a stunt. a stunt that appears to launder a lot of money and made a lot of
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money for donald trump but they never got built anything because of this stuff. trump himself turned up in georgia, in this little town, batumi, georgia, for an amazing stunt in the middle of the scheme. mr. trump was paid a million dollars to show up and lend his name. now, this little town seems like an unlikely place for that kind of development but miraculously, somebody found a ton of money. a ton of money to do this deal. turns out basically all the money came from bta bank which appears to have basically cooked up this whole scheme. they said they're going to build a trump tower, trump showed up there in georgia to make it seems like it is true but they never built it but they never intended to. >> the bank funded a ga zillizi
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small companies. none of the companies have real estate or developments. they were created for r the purpose of this project and it turns out all of these new entities created and lavishly funded by bta bank and they all turned out to be controlled by the chairman of the bank or people close to him. that was his mo. that was how he allegedly stole all the money out of the bank. he would lend it to fake companies which is really just himself. after you made those loans, last thing you want to do is fritter away the mumbai spending it to build something. so even though trump showed up and got his million dollar fee to tour around nation of georgia and announce the location of his grand new tower, there was no brand new tower. it was just a loan that extracted the money from the bank and put it apparently in the chairman's pocket. that's what happened to the
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trump's hotel in batumi. it appears to be a scam. it appears to be a way to embezzle money out of a bank, embezzle money out of the biggest bank in kazakhstan and in 2012, trump got paid a million dollars to help go over there and make it looked real. >> there is three stories of kazakhstan. of all tr counthe country in th of random place. all different kinds of associations with the president of the united states. they do keep coming up. when the fusion transcript was released, the kazakhstan stuff was my favorite part. well, there is some contenders. page 293 in the transcript, quote, "question, what if any research did you conduct that gave you any concerns of then
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candidate trump and any illicit activities?" . answer, his relationship of organized crime figures, that was a concern. there were various allegations of fraudulent business practices or dishonest practices or connections of crime practices. there was long history of people accused of criminal activities. in the early, the first weekend that i started boning up on donald trump, i found various references to him having connections to italian organized crime and later to felix sater, the bay rock guy. it was not hard to find, it was in the "new york times." >> it became something that i focus on. all of that entered into my thinking when i saw that donald trump was in business with sater
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and the soho project. we saw some of the money came from kazakhstan and other place and some he could not account for. question? >> there was an investigation about money about kazakhstan? >> yes, can you tell me about that and what you investigated or what you learned? >> yes, answer, recovering money that was stolen from kazakhstan. the name of the bank was bta bank. it is well established in various court that is the government allegations are basically true which is the large amount of money were moved from this bank laundsered acros the europe and into the united states allegedly. there was some civil case involved some launders. there is been media report that the money went to the trump soho.
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it was a company that felix sater and donald trump were involved in together. one last thing here and then there is the part of it that's insane that's going to make part of your day tomorrow partially insane. all right, one last thing to know about all this kazakhstan stuff and trump. what it may take to nail any of this stuff down if someone were investigating him for potential liability and money laundering. if the president were potentially going to be in trouble for any of his business dealings from all this sketchy money from kazakhstan. how would it be proven and how would it be found out and where is the documentation? >> on this stuff of bta bank, there is one thing you need to know. remember i said the chairman of that bank fled the country and ran off to the u.k. and france, right? after he left, who took control of that bank? two to who took control of his bank including all records, files and
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archives? >> who took control? the government of kazakhstan. the dictator of kazakhstan put his son-in-law in control of that bank, which means if there is any problematic evidence or willful blindness or participation in this big obvious money laundering scheme, any potential liability of all different dealings with that bank and other kazakhstan figures, records of those transactions would be in the hands of, it would be in the office safe of the son-in-law of the dictator of kazakhstan. guess who's coming the white house tomorrow? i told you this is going to make your tuesday weird. the dictator of kazakhstan is coming to the white house tomorrow. he's been invited to meet president trump at the white house tomorrow at noon. really?
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of all the dictators in the world? there is a lot of weird stuff going on in the news tonight. wall street journal came out with a story saying jared kushner was warned by u.s. intelligence about his friendship with a woman named wendi deng. she's basically a chinese spy. newspaper writes allegation of spying about newspaper owners ex-wife, what? today we honor martin luther king jr. all previous president honoring this day and civic projects, feed the poor. our president is enrolled in a big country, what does he use to
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describe africa and haiti several days ago. in the middle of that controversy, he decided that he would clear his name on mlk's day by spending today golfing instead of doing any public service, that's how he decided to honor the holiday. the president's chief strategist, he got fired right after this controversy of his remarks of the new book of michael wolff and all of the money laundering. steve bannon, he's testifying tomorrow. i wonder if he will have a story to tell. the president declared he has lost his mind and got him fired and defunded. now we know that while, steve,
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it is all about money laundering, bannon will be testifying at the house of intelligence committee, president trump simultaneously will be hosting the dictator of kazakhstan in the oval office. kazakhstan, which is basically the spindle around the record of trump's alleged money laundering have been spinning the last decade. kazakhstan dictator, tomorrow? really? >> weird times buckle up, stay with us. cable. just like some people like pre-shaken sodas. having their seat kicked on an airplane. being rammed by a shopping cart. sitting in gum. and walking into a glass door. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable, switch to directv and get a $200 reward card. call 1-800-directv.
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crimes in forcemeenforcement ne. they warned the state industry of money laundering with transaction transactions. ing these deals can be an attractive avenue for criminals to launch their proceeds while masking their identities. there is a reason why investigators all have the same monot mantra, right? our reporter have spent months behind every single sale of a trump branded condominium. this means it is not comprehensive but possibly a complete analysis of a degree of the president's business built
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on the kind of secret transactions that the nation's crime unit is now warns for a big red flag of money laundering. g joining us is thomas frank. thank you for being here. >> great to be here. >> first, i want to congratulate the effort. this comprehensive has not been done before. why did you approach it this way given how labor intensive it has been. >> i want to correct something. it was all online. i should not say it was not that hard. it was incredibly difficult. it was a way to do it. one of the great things about property record is they're all online especially places like new york city and miami. i was aware that vincent as you point out have become concerned of possible money laundering through these high end purchases
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of luxury real estate and places like miami and new york. i wanted to quantify the extent of exactly how many condos that were sold under trump's name fit this sort of broad definition that itself uses a transaction involving money laundering. the number that i came up with really large. it fell in to this broad cat gore reconciliati categorization. and to be fair, that's actually not unusual when you are talking about the kind of properties that donald trump has both built and licensed to be built under
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his name especially in cities like miami and manhattan where, of course, there is a lot of high end property and rich foreigners that want to invest their money and in real estate because it is safe and it is going to depreciate and because they are rich, they paid cash and they don't need a mortgage. >> one of the reasons i want to talk to you tonight because of the visit of the kazakhstan. mueller maybe looking at questions of possible money laundering. one of the things that comes up around the kazakhstan stuff is that these three trump's soho condos that were bought and traced to a figure in kazakhstan in terms of money laundering of appropriate funds. they were turned around very fast, it was bought in cash, and sale in 2013 within two years.
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by 2015, all three of them have been sold again. they were sold out of loss. that maybe bad of somebody miss reading the market. is that kind of turn around transaction turn around on these apartments and these sales, is that kind of a red flag? >> the national association of re realtors which represent realtors have said in one of the warning signs of money laundering can be what it calls an immediate resale of a property particularly at a big gain or a big loss. it diana costarakoes not definet when you see something being turned around that quickly, it does raise a question of why did the person buy it? did they buy it as an investment or a way of cleaning some cash up and they had no reason to hold onto it and they're willing to sell it at a loss because they did not use it as an investment.
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they use it as a money laundering tactic. property record sales don't answer the question that everybody wants answered which was, was there money laundering. those three properties were bought for $3.1 million. there was a lawsuit filed by the city of kazakhstan. i want to complete your education of kazakhstan. the largest city of kazakhstan where this man was a mayor claiming those properties among others in the u.s. were bought using illegally obtained money that four mayors are trying to launder. >> well, this is what i got. to be on the stretch to do this kind of thing. the one thing about those lawsuits, that's filed and there is the bay rock lawsuit that's been filed and the lawsuit from the city of kazakhstan and these
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lawsuits whether or not they ultimately succeed, it helps us wash out the story. thomas frank, reporter of buzz bee news, you are doing a lot of late reporting here. thank you for being here tonight. >> much more to report tonight. . some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.
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are from new orleans and your beloved saints lost a game of the last second. i screamed so loud that i scared the dog. if you are a football fan, the time picking today is expletive, expletive, expletive. suddenly, it maybe the perfect headline for our national conversation that we are being forced to have right now on this particular holiday. as of tonight, a lot of countries have summoned u.s. ambassadors to explain that profane and frankly racist thing that the president said in a meeting. the list of countries including haiti, south africa, ghana, botswana and senegal. the entire african union is
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demanding an apology from the president not only to africans but to all african descents from around the globe. the state of department not trying to interpret or soften the president's remarks but rather to listen and acknowledge other countriecountries' concer luck with that. strong relationships with some african countries that took decades to build lurched into a crisis mode. and it is not just other countries or allies around the world that's been working with relations for decades, it is not just countries that are mad. in south florida, hundreds of people protesters lined the roof at mar-a-lago from the president's near by golf course. the golf course is where and how the president chose to spent his martin luther king jr. day of service today. >> apologies. >> i am just saying what do we
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want? apology. >> it can be uncomfortable as the president getting a golf game and not doing any public service on a holiday of the king's family. all the while people he tried to demean with racist remarks marched along the road to his country club. a lot of protesters today waving haitian flags and demanding an apology from him. the reaction to what he said is growing and it is not fading away. over the week, the secretary homeland security told fox news that she does not recall the president using that exact phrase in that white house meeting. she was there at the meeting and she said she does fnot remember if she heard the president using that alphabet. if you heard a president saying that, would you remember? tomorrow she will face questions on somebody who says they do
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remember what the the said. that's interesting on its face but it is also interesting because one senior member is senator dick durbin who's been steadfast of his account of the president's words last week, yes, he's said it and i was there and if he's denying it, he's lying. >> senator durbin and the homeland security were in the room. senator durbin will ask her about that and about her memory. that'll be another uncomfortable moment around the squirmest mla holiday, being uncomfortable of what's happening and remaining uncomfortable and refusing to adjust to it is turning out to be a big part of civic life these days especially on this day. with that thought, dan rathers, joins us next.
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disobedien disobedience. thoughts on today's mlk day on news anchor and the author of "what runites us." mr. dan rather, thank you for being with us. good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> i want to ask you on your thoughts today and about your, how you think we should absorb what just happened with the latest racial controversy involving the president and his remarks are source of contention and in terms of whether or not it was racist as it seemed, how do you absorb this new news? >> i am sure i cannot absorb it. i cannot read donald trump's heart. we'll have to judge him by what
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he says and what he does. these comments and by the best of descriptions, these comments were racist comments. and for a president of the united states to have to say straight out, i am not a racist, which echoes a president nixon saying i am not a crook. as a people and a country and a society, we are better than this, which is what doctor martin luther king jr. was always trying to say, a version of we are better than this. the king that we remember on his birthday and the king that i met and covered in the early 1960s, the peak of his appeal if you will and what people remember is that during the civil rights, the basic and the late 1960s, once doctor king moved more and talking about economic justice and came out against the vietnam
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war, not so much. johnson pl johnson split him over that and a lot of people. for people that don't know doctor king's background or were not alive at the time. he was in terms of asking the best of the country, kind of extended shining star comet. the light that you will not see any time soon. he was the most charismatic and most eloquent champion of america could be and i would think he would be amazed and appalled to hear a president of the united states saying a number of things the president have said and of this recent outrage and you know king is a follower of gandhi and he believed in non-violence, he would be the first to say if he
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were here that he was the face of the movement but what made the movement, is the people, the people including the women and children that got out and marched with him and he got a lot of good help, andrew young, who's still alive in alabama. king was the kind of person who was very eager for others to get the credit. >> when you were covering him in that moment and when that transition were happening that you were describing from what we remember now in terms of the earlier years of his civil rights movement verses his controversial pauses and activism later in his life, were there controversies, was it a contested space within the media and when in terms of how he was covered and in terms of the kind of respect he got and the kind of criticisms he got and how much attention he received?
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>> absolutely. during of what i call the hike of his rise in the early 1960s, almost mid 1960s, he was a favor in the media. once he began calling for economic justice and once he broke the vietnam war and said some controversial things, then not so much, you know when i was covering, you always knew he was walking moment to moment on the razor edge of danger and death. once he came out of the vietnam war and started saying some controversial things at that time about the war, one would take a deep breath is the target got bigger. and not long after that, he was assassinated. >> do you feel like the holiday now that we have been celebrating it as this many years as a holiday and it is strike to see the president not acknowledging it in any way today or not doing any public service the way other presidents have. do you feel the holiday as
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appreciating him as a full, in the fullness of his being. you publicized this portion of "what yunites us today." >> i am not sure this holiday looks by as time goes on. as a national holiday, the fact that the president of the united states, he did not pay service to it, i think going forward to keep it to be a true national holiday is going to require a continued struggle. i hope i am wrong about that. >> dan rather, the host of the big interview of access tv and the author of "what unites us." >> thank you for your time >> thank you so much. >> still to come tonight, a couple of questions, we are trying desperately to get answers to. we got two stories left tonight neither which i can tell you
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. . . . he pledged that he would submit to psychological testing as president. he pledged that if the white house doctor found evidence of mental deterioration while he was in office, he would resign. i would walk away, i would step down. >> i should tell you that we don't know any formal psychological tests that were done on ronald reagan. he did not get annual check ups. those records are still closed.
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there is a lot of discussions that his mental ability might have been compromised before he left office and years before he was diagnosed with alzheimer's in 1984. that's the bag drop of last year of donald trump's breaking ronald reagan's breaking age record when he was the oldest president elected. he's now 71-year-old. friday, trump went in with his first physical with his white hou house's physician. questions about his state of mind. a couple of hours after completing the physical, sarah huckabee sanders passed out a short statement that she abut attributed to the doctors. >> the president is in excellent help and i look forward to briefing some of the details on
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tuesday. exceptionally well and excellent. they put the white house's physician name on the staptemen. you see doctor jackson there. the president maybe in excellent health but why would doctor ronny jackson misspelled his name with a y. the white house issued the correction of the correct spelling of the doctor's name. anyway. we have a bunch of questions. what type of exams did the president under go for his physical and what type of information is the doctor planning to release tomorrow. did doctor jackson write that statement and if so, why did he misspelled his name? rereach
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we reached out the medical treatment. the white house did get back to us about many questions. they told us this. quote, "all can be asked and will be addressed at tomorrow's press briefing." we are expecting to hear from the white house's physician tomorrow in the white house's briefing room, he's expected to take questions. i am curious as to his answers. it is a mystery that'll hopefully be solved tomorrow. did you even write that thing? there is also another mystery of something else happening. this is an outstanding question of that strange story from late friday night is next.
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that maybe a news cycle stopping event. now a day it is like get in line. it is kind of weird. title ten is a federal program that providing services and healthcare prior getting thrown out at the headquarter building on friday. teresa manning was a controversial pick for that program. she's a committed antiabortion activist, she has said that she does not think contraception works but report did surfaced last week that this federal health agency stalled. states have not been applied for the money. they're counting on it this year even though the process is supposed to start in november. maybe you can draw a dotted line between the controversy and this senior health official getting the boot on friday night when everybody else had to be cleared out the floor to not see her walked out by security. we have no idea if those things
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are related. we called groups that cared about the funding and top healthcare if they heard anything. we called the federal health department, nobody would give us an answer. most people flat out ignored our calls. we don't know what happened >> good evening. the president of the united states is in a credibility contest just after "the washington post" counted over 2,000 lies in his first year as president. so who are you going to believe? >> well, you know it -- yeah, punt. thank you, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. >> there it is, tonight it's donald trump versus dick durbin on who's telling the truth.
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