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as maintenance and trash removal. who gets furloughed? pretty much all other federal employees. last time, that was about 850,000 workers. staff at the centers for disease control will likely have to stay home and tax refunds may be delayed because irs staff will be furloughed. that's it for me. msnbc coverage continues now. a very good morning to all of you. i'm alex witt here in new york. it's an early 6:00 a.m. in the east, 3:00 a.m. in the west. but it is day one of shutdown 2018. no deal. the clock struck midnight and the wheels of government mostly ground to a halt. we'll tell you the major sticking points. >> i believe that a government shutdown is a loser proposition for both parties. >> blame game, both sides saying the other party is at fault. democrats blame the president. republicans say it came down to illegal immigration. year one, the shutdown
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punctuates the anniversary of donald trump's inauguration to the day and he's now linked to a major trending twitter hashtag. what's opened,s what's closed, who gets paid, who doesn't, a breakdown of how the shutdown impacts america from sea to shining sea. details, next. let's get right to capitol hill where lawmakers are just a few hours away from getting back to work all in a desperate effort to end the government shutdown. house members will reconvene at 9:00 a.m., the senate back in session at noon. in the meantime, leaders from both sides of the aisle hurling accusations at each other. house speaker paul ryan calling the shutdown a dangerous ploy by democrats. nancy pelosi calling republicans incompetent and negligent. mean wile, half of americans say the fault primarily lies with president trump and republicans. 28% blame democrats. 18% say both sides created this
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standoff. nbc's edward lawrence has more reaction from capitol hill. >> it is not agreed to. >> the u.s. government officially shutdown, despite a flurry of last-minute negotiations that played out live during a critical vote on the senate floor. >> it was only one reason we ended up here. the shoe horning of illegal immigration into this debate. >> democrats holding firm in their demands for a picks on the policy protecting undocumented immigrants brought to this country as children. some republics worried about leaving government workers in the lurch. >> i believe a government shutton is a loser proposition for both parties. >> in a late night tweet, president trump accused democrats of wanting a shutdown to diminish hicks tax cuts. earlier at the white house, he and the senate's top democrats tried to cut a deal. >> he did not press his party in congress to accept it.
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>> all the while, government agencies dusted off their shutdown playbooks, getting ready to close. but some essential personnel expected to keep on working. >> the military will still go to work. they will not get paid. the border will still be patrolled. they will not get paid. >> the first anniversary of president trump's inauguration now threatening to become a major milestone, the day the government shutdown. >> president trump planned a lavish party for the anniversary of his inauguration but postponed a trip to florida now. >> let's go to nbc's mike on capitol hill after that late night. but three hours from now, the house will resume negotiations. mike, what went wrong yesterday? if you can sum that up in the a couple of minutes, good for you. >> you're right, alex. this is the culmination of months if not years of
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acrimoniny here on the hill. if this gets resolved in the short-term, which doesn't seem likely, really depends on which side decides they are in the weaker political position and that is the problem right now, al eggs. both sides feel as though they are on firm political ground. you heard mitch mcconnell a take the floor after a vote that proved futile saying democrats and the framing of republicans are simply trying to make this a debate about illegal immigration when it's really about keeping the government open and, as a sweetener, republicans threw in this provision to extend for six years, the c.h.i.p. program that extends health insurance to lower income children, something democrats have been asking for over the course of the last six months. democrats do want that so-called daca legislation included in here. so here we are. the ball is in the senate's court. the house has hads passed a measure.
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they're happening around this weekend to see what the senate does in case they do have to come back into session and vote on any kind of compromise. but it doesn't look good at this moment. last might, the acrimony spilled out on to the senate floor after that failed vote. >> continue to do all we can. we'll vote again so the american people knows who stands for them. and when our friends across the aisle remember who it is they actually represent, we'll be ready to come together in a bipartisan discussion that will be necessary to clean up all of this mess. >> this will be called the trump shutdown because there is no one, no one, who deserves the blame for the position we find ourselves in more than president trump. he walked away from two bipartisan deals. including one today in which i even put the border wall on the
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table. what will it take for president trump to say yes and learn how to execute the rudements of government? >> i'd caution everyone, alex, not to taking everything necessarily at face value that they hear in the wake of this shutdown and the failure last night. >> it was chuck schumer who visited with president trump yesterday that had republicans on edge thinking the president was going to cut a deal without them. the president backed away from some of the promises made during that meeting and literally where is the president? he's in washington. he had been scheduled to go to mar-a-lago for that anniversary gala, that fund-raiser. it remains to be seen whether he's going to make that trip. he did postpone it over the evening and into the morning. but there is a lot of confusion
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over what the president wants. >> i've got to tell you, that is some party not to show up at if you consider the price of the tickets. $100,000 to $250,000 for a couple. with the house coming back in at 9:00 a.m. and not until noon, the house was able to pass something. they passed legislation on thursday. by a decent margin. so what will they be doing? doesn't it all have to wait for the senate to get their act together? >> yeah. i wouldn't be on the edge of my seat this morning at 9:00 to watch the house come in. they are literally just here in a pro forma session. in other words, they're going through the motions, staying in session until they can find out and figure out what the senate is going to do, if anything. >> mike, thanks so much. let's bring in daniel lipman, reporter from politico and jessie burns, associate editor at the hill. gentlemen, good morning to you. i'm going to start with you, jesse. is this shutdown mostly about
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politics and not policy and which party is going to take a bigger political hit over this? and will that hit have staying power come november in the midterms? >> yeah. it's the million-dollar question. at this point, it looks like neither party thinks they're going to take the hit. it was remarkable yesterday seeing senator schumer go to the white house and appear to have something of a deal with president trump. they met for 90 minutes or so and then he came back to the capital saying there's progress, but no deal yet. last night around 11:00 or so, if there was a deal, it fell apart in dramatic fashion. both parties are betting that neither of them will have a huge political hit from this. otherwise, i think we would have seen action last night. >> jesse, what does that say about president trump? he's the guy who authorized the art of the deal. if he was able to come out of a meeting with chuck schumer with, i guess, a blueprint at least to move forward with, did the
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president then just punt to mitch mcconnell and say, it's in your hands now.? >> that's what senator schumer said. last night, we saw some democrats come out and essentially say trump walked away from a deal. of course, any deal that senator schumer was putting forward, the white house thought they were getting the raw end of that. i think you're going to see now a lot of pressure not only on trump to try to get something done here, but you're going do see some more pressure on schumer to actually say, look, is it really worth dragging out a shutdown over, you know, whatever kind of concessions trump wasn't willing to make? the white house has hardened its stance saying we're not going to talk about immigration at all until the government is funded. so that is a hardening of the white house's position over the last week or so. >> so, daniel, if they haven't made any comp miegzs to the point a deal westbound done, what makes anyone think it's
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going to happen anytime soon or today? if it happens today, why couldn't it have happened last night? >> i think now that the government is shutdown, there is real world consequences in washington. it's no longer a theoretical matter. and i think president trump will be monitoring the media coverage really closely. you know, he is an avid consumer of cable news and if he sees himself getting blamed for this shutdown by major news outlets, then he'll probably eventually cave in to some of schumer's demands because he doesn't want to continue looking back. but if he thinks democrats are taking a hit for this shutdown, then he'll stand fast. he really is paying attention to how the optics of this looks. he doesn't want to be the guy that provides over a two-month government shut youp. that would not go well for him
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and the republican party in november. >> yeah, well, daniel, it would seem as if the optics are already in. if you look at the numbers we reported at the top, you have 48% of respondents saying this shutdown is the fault of the gop and the president by association. only 28% right now are blaming the democrats. as you say, the president watching cable tv. he's very aware of polls, although there is the ideology that john kelly only allows poll numbers to get to him that are positive in its reflection. so how much do you think the president will start to kick start everything? how much do you expect he gets involved this morning? >> i don't expect him to be hittinging the phones early this morning. remember, that report that he only starts work at 11:00 a.m., so he'll probably work the weekend. but we should remember that this shutdown probably would not have happened if he had not rescinded daca in the first place. without these -- the status of
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these d.r.e.a.m.ers in question, then i think it would have been easier for democrats and republicans to make a deal. and remember, we had senator tom cotton in the oval office earlier this week scuttling a potential deal with moderate and democratic republican senators. they were very surprised when they saw cotton in the oval office. it made it much harder for them to negotiate this out. if cotton was not there, we may have seen a deal. >> look, jesse, democrats have certainly dug in their heels on daca. is that going to prove to be the right move? and if daca is not part of this deal ultimately, do the so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers end up being reported or does a separate deal get worked out? what are the expectations on that? >> paul ryan has been saying for weeks that the deadline is not until march 5th that trump has set for these deals to go through. so there wouldn't be in it any risk of them, you know, seeing
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deportation until then, at least. but democrats are under so much pressure because they promised advocates, they promised their base they were going to get this done before the end of last year, before the end of 2017. and they didn't do it. so now they're saying, well, look, where are we going to draw the line in the sand? are we going to let our party kind of let this go yet again with one of these short-term continuing resolutions? they've already done it a few times now. so they're under a lot of pressure to get that conkegz. at the same time, we don't see any indication that paul ripe or others on the republican side are moving. we saw last nighted, as i mentioned, the white house saying we're not even going to broach this topic of immigration until the government is funded. republicans controlled both houses of congress and the white house. how did the shutdown happen under those circumstances? reaction next from our strategist panel.
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darling. gentlemen, good morning to you. let's get right into it. i want to play for you what senator bernie sanders said at a rally for d.r.e.a.m.ers outside the capital last night. >> we want a government that functions not on a month-to-month basis, but on a basis which addresses the real crisis facing the american people. it's time that we pass the d.r.e.a.m. act and a path towards citizenship. >> brian, give me a percentage breakdown, if you can, how much this is politics, how much this is policy. >> well, i think it's 50/50. i mean, a lot of it is politics and i do think bernie sanders is right in one sense. i think it's a problem that congress continues to do continuing resolutions. i also think it's a problem that the senate and the house waited until thursday to send over a continuing resolution and the senate didn't vote until just
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two hours before the government shutdown. that made it hard to start the negotiations. but make no doubt about it, i mean, democrats are filibustering a bill that they support. this is a schumer shutdown in the sense that democrats support everything in this bill, everything in this continuing resolution and they even sweetened it in the house and added in the children's health care funding to make it a long-term appropriations, to make it even better for democrats and they still voted no. so democrats are taking this bill hostage and they just need to o it. >> do you agree, chris? republicans certainly want to label this the schumer shutdown. are they right? >> well, the american people i don't think are going to see it that way and you see the early polls don't see it that way. this is the first time in this country's history that a party that control tess white house, the senate and the house can't keep government working. the irony here is, to your question whether this is politics or policy, this is 100% politics. the republicans are facing, in
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november, a democratic wave. you're seeing all the signs. they need a base that's energized. they have chosen an issue that even though there are members of their own party, like senator graham and others or senator flake in terms of immigration and daca where there's a deal on the table, they don't want to do it because they want to energize their base. anyone who thinks the democrats just woke up and have nothing better to do so let's shut down the government over immigration are missing the the point that republicans wanted this to happen. >> speaking of waking up, we have evidence the president is up, everybody. he is tweeting already on this saturday morning. here is what the president has written. democrats are far more concerned with illegal immigrants than they are with our great military or safety at our dangerous southern border. they could have easily made a deal but decided to play shutdown politics instead. we need more republicans in '18 in order to power through the mess. what's your reaction to that, chris? >> this is a president who loves to tweet. and doesn't necessarily love to
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negotiate. i mean, if you want to have a deal, if you want to actually get things done in congress, if you want to actually get things done between the white house and congress, you have to start negotiating before, let's say, a couple days before the deadline. and this is, i think, the frustration that people have with this president. he loves to just throw these barbs, either at the other side or in many cases his own side. but he doesn't do the hard work of actually sitting down, understanding the details, and negotiating to try to figure out a compromise that actually works for the country. he has talked about daca. he has talked about, you know, that we need a bill that is a bill of love. well, this is neither. so this is the frustration that people have that this president likes to talk and tweet, but doesn't like to do and act. >> so, brian, the president calls it -- he puts it all under the umbrella of illegal immigrants. he just did that again in this tweet. for many democrats, daca is a core value. it's not political for them.
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do you think this shutdown is making republicans realize that? do you think this at all helps get a deal on daca as we move forward? >> oh, i think at some point there may be a deal. but the shutdown, i think, is -- i think many democrats are worried that they're overplaying their.hands. i mean, you have four democrats who are in cycle right now that voted for the appropriations bill because they see a little bit of danger in this had and doug jones and very conservative alabama, he voted for this bill, too. >> he voted for it because of the c.h.i.p. he said that's what he promised for his alabamans. he said he wanted that children's health insurance policy to continue. that's why he voted for it. >> yeah. that's what he says. i think he's in a pretty conservative state. in 2020 he wants to win re-election, so he's probably hedging. but when you look at this, i just think that democrats are playing a little bit of a dangerous game. they can't take it too far. they keep the government shutdown well into next week, i think this turns on them. i think the polling will turn on them because the american people
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will realize that although they support the democrats' position on daca, there is support for it, they don't support an extended government shutdown auto a bill that has nothing to do with daca. and they know that the democrats would get another bite at the apple anyways when this continuing resolution runs out in a month. >> alex. >> yeah. go ahead. >> here is the problem. it's really simple for the american people to understand. the republicans control all leavers of government. the notion that you're goio blame democrats when republicans andrally have every cmber the white house is comical on its face. >> yeah, but that's disingenuine. >> it is not. it is a fact. >> there's a majority of republicans in the house that voted for this continuing resolution. there's a majority in the senate that supports the continuing resolution to pass. the thing that's blocking it is a filibuster. >> it is the obligation of the governing party to actually negotiate a compromise that gets things done. if you're going to be in power, there's a possibility that comes
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with power. and if you don't have a super majority, you have to figure out how to compromise. this is not a mystery thing. this is simple math. republicans chose not to do it. then you have to ask yourself why. and the reason why is simple. politics. >> well, i really -- i predict that democrats are not going to let this go too long. they will cave because they know they get another bite at the apple. they can say, we shut the government down in the past, we'll do it again in the future if you don't give us a deal. >> guys, that's all for now. we'll come back and talk about what a difference a year makes. we've taken you through all the political chaos thats has brought us here, but how will the shutdown impact you directly? we'll tell you, next. copd makes it hard to breathe.
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working, so did the fbi and the special counsel focusing on russia, along with the tsa screeners and air traffic controllers. but none of them gets paid during a shutdown. congress does. >> the american people are probably right now just looking at us and shaking their heads. and i can't -- i can't blame them. >> so what stops? military deaths benefits, for example, and passport updates. but social security checks keep getting sent. va hospitals stay open. national parks will, too, although with reduced services. and smithsonian museums will close monday. more than half of cdc employees are expected to be furloughed right in the thick of a deadly flu season. and the irs will feel the pain, too, as they scramble under a new gop tax law. >> if e irs stops working, how do you implement your policy? >> hall, it's why we don't want the government shutdown and we don't want the irs not to have workers here.
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>> mike works for the e.p.a. where it's business as usual next week, but week after that, who knows. >> i feel badly for the employees in our office, some of which live paycheck to paycheck that are worried about where is my next paycheck coming from. >> hallie jackson reporting there. the last shutdown in 2013 sucked $24 billion out of our economy, according to standard & poors. today's government shutdown marks one year since the president took office. we're going to review a year of trump, next. i accept i don't bike as far as i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter where i ride, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus had less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke.
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welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york. congress is not yet back in session after the late night of negotiations. the white house is passing blame, though, to senate democrats. they were doing that yet morning when the director of office and management budget took the stage at a briefing. >> omg is preparing for what we're calling the schumer shutdown. the obama administration weaponized the shutdown in 2013. they could have made the shutdown in 2013 much less impactful. as senator feinstein her position and she said that the government shutdowns, people will die. and as a follow-up question how
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is she going to vote, she said she hasn't decided yet. the reality is this isn't about policy, it's about politics. i don't think it's clear what the democrats are asking for. >> mike viqueira is back with us now. mike, let's talk about the senate since that's where this cr stalled last night. talk us through the vote. >> well, you know, there have been a lot of moving parts since the sun went down in washington last night. a lot of drama, a lot of talking behind closed doors. and even on the senate floor. but the upshot is as the sun gets ready to come up here in washington, nothing has been resolved and we are now almost seven hours into the first shutdown since 2013. you mentioned what's been happening in the senate last night, a dramatic vote started at about 10:15 p.m. this was really a fe conclusion. what they needed was 60 votes to move forward on the snding bill that would have kept the government open. democrats larmgly were against it. it did not include the
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children's insurance program that they've been asking for, demanding as part of any spending bill. they did lose four democrats. those in red states up for re-election this coming year in 2018 in the fall, including joe manchin of west virginia, heidi heitkamp as well as the newly elected senator from alabama, doug jones. so the party discipline holding as much as it needed to. the politics of a shutdown, the blame game, isn't quite the no-brainer alex than you might think it is. in 2013, there was mention in the sound bite there, most of the public polls revealed a blamed republicans who controlled congress at the time even though there was a democrat in the white house for the shutdown. yet at the end of the that year, the next election, republicans were able to add seats. so this is not a slam dunk as far as the politics are concerned. meanwhile, on the senate floor last night, that vote that started at 10:15 dragged on for two hours.
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i just talked to our casey honin just arrived on the scene. she was up last night. she said there was a lot of drama, a lot of huddles over the senate floor trying to find some common ground, trying to find a way out of this impasse. there is talk today of a short-term three-week spending resolution to kick the can down the road. we've heard that phrase a lot for yet another time, a fourth time since the government was first due to run out of money on october 1st of last year. but everything is still very much up in the air now. again, both sides feeling as though they're on solid political ground, alex. >> okay. mike viqueira, we'll see you in a bit. thank you so much. let's bring back daniel and jesse. how big a deal is it for the president to mark the one-year anniversary of his inauguration with a government shutdown? and might i add, he just tweeted his thoughts about that. he just posted this maybe three minutes ago. this is the one-year anniversary of my presidency and the democrats wanted to give me a
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nice present. #democratshutdown. so we know how he feels about it. >> i think in this era where the news has been so crazy for the last year with some of trump's top associates getting charged, you have the mueller investigation dragging down the administration, the fact that there's a government shutdown is almost the least interesting part of this year in office that trump has had. and so, you know, it took barack obama five years into his administration for a shutdown. you have this on the one-year mark of trump's presidency. i think it's a black eye for both parties, but i think, you know, trump, he doesn't want to -- you know, if it was up to him, he would make a deal with chuck schumer right away. but he doesn't want to piss off paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. you know, he has a lot of trust issues with his own republican leaders in congress. and if he was able to cut a deal
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with schumer, then his republicans would feel like they were betrayed by trump. >> yeah. well, to that end, i want to play for you, jesse, what senator schumer said on the senate floor right after the votes failed. here it is. >> unfortunately, a trump shutdown would be a perfect encapsulation of the chaos he's unleashed on our government. instead of bringing us all together, he's pulled us apart. instead of governing from the middle, he's outsourced his presidency to the extremes. >> you know, jesse, my colleague, joe scarborough echoed a similar sentiment on twitter last night. here is what joe said. this is not chuck schumer's shutdown, this is not mitch mcconnell's shutdown. this is donald trump and stephen miller's shutdown. this is the result of a confused, chaotic white house.
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so with the democrats and republicans placing blame, do you have any sense there will away rec jobbing soon becauseko? >> it was embarrassing seeing mitch mcconnell last night kind of decrying the fact that they are in this debacle, that they're having to come in on a weekend, they're having to stay up until 2:00 in the morning trying to figure out how to keep the government open and funded, thousands of people being furloughed here in the next couple of days if they don't figure this out. but i think it's -- yeah, we saw even mcconnell say earlier this week that it was unclear what the president wanted for this deal. and so typically, the white house kind of has some more direction for lawmakers in this situation. obviously, trump likes to keep his options open and tries to hold out for the best deal. but we see kind of the consequences. and i think this is illustrative of that when ultimately at the end of the day you don't get a deal and it impacts people
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beyond your control. >> daniel, you add to the impact of the shutdown. there's the new poll which i'm looking at which marks the one-year a anniversary of the presidency. how damming is all of this, especially in a crucial midterm year? 39% approval rating, that is the lowest in history. in history ever taken for a president at the one-year mark. >> that's true. i think, you know, you had mike say earlier that in the last shutdown, republicans got the blame in terms of their poll numbers, but they were able to win a few seats the next year. >> turned it around. >> and so, you know, that's a great reminder that in this news environment in washington, in june, maybe, everyone will probably forget the about the shutdown. there will be new developments on the mueller front, you know, what is going to happen to trump's plan for infrastructure. i thought that would be a focus this year.
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you're hearing nothing about that. and i think trump doesn't want to be defined by this shutdown. and, you know, it's interesting to see how the -- you know, it doesn't affect a lot of people on a day-to-day basis in terms of regular americans. it affects government workers more. so people will be able to fly, you know, air traffic controllers won't go on vike. >> it might be more clogged at the airport, though, because there will be some airport employees furloughed because of all this. but you said, daniel, that the president doesn't want to be defined by this shutdown. i want you both to quickly tell me, how long do you think this is going to last and who is going to take the blame ultimately? daniel, you first. >> i think, you know, it's going to last two weeks, you know, at the end of that you'll probably just see people getting tired in congress of having their approval rating getting dragged down by this. and i think it's going to affect republics a little pore, but
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it's not going to -- there is already going to be a democratic wave in november regardless of this shutdown. >> jesse, your thoughts. >> i think it's at least going to last a few days up to a couple weeks, i would agree there. there are some democrats expecting to reject this house passed measure because they are worried about the elections coming up later this year. and so you're going to see more pressure on the democratic democratic leadership to reach a deal, whether it's a four-week deal or a tee-week deal, they don't want to be associated with a shutdown. both parties know it's incredibly damaging so they want to avoid it at all costs. >> let's see how the memory of americans lasts. coming up in our next hour, the president saying the shutdown fight could make his miss his party. next, questions about how he's handling the shutdown and what
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on 6:48 in the morning on day one of the government shutdown. and on the president's favorite method of public communication, twitter, the #trumpshutdown has been the number one trending topic worldwide overnight. of course, today marks the one-year anniversary of mr. trump's inauguration. nbc's jeff bennet takes a look at three big promises the president made and whether he's been able to deliver on them. >> i donald john tux do solemnly swear -- >> reporter: january 20th, 2017, minutes after taking the oath of office, donald trump addressed americans for the first time as the 45th president of the united states. his inauguration speech echoing the same america first theme that helped sweep him to victory. >> we will make america great again. the president's 16-minute inauguration address offering a blueprint, his speech short on soaring rhetoric, but full of
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populist promises. a year later, promise one, rewriting trade deals. >> we must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. >> the president delivering on day one. signing an executive order pulling the u.s. from the 12-nation trans-pacific partnership and declaring an end to the era of multi national trade agreements. later, exiting the paris climate accord. the u.s. along with syria as the only two nations boycotting the agreement. >> i was elected to represent the citizen of pittsburgh, not paris. >> and the threat is pull out of nafta still looming. >> and if it doesn't turn out, we'll have to do a new nafta or a new deal. next up, promise two, overhauling the nation's infrastructure. >> we will build new roads and
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highways and bridges and airports and tunnels and railways all across our wonderful nation. >> the president pledging to repair the country's aging infrastructure, upgrading everything from bridges to broadband with help from democrats. >> i really do believe do belie going to have a lot of bipartisan work done. >> reporter: the plan still in the early stages with questions swirling about how to pay for the overhaul and democrats signaling their resistance. promise three, fighting islamic extremism. >> we will reinforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against radical islamic terrorism which we will eradicate completely from the face of the earth. >> reporter: one week into presidency citing national security concerns. the move sparking legal
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challenges and protests. the extremist group losing 98% of its territory according to the u.s. military half recaptured since mr. trump took office. the president saying in a statement we have made more progress against the evil terrorists in the past several months than in the past several years. >> jeff bennett reporting there from the white house. joining me once again democratic strategist and former chief of staff for senator joe mansion and former senior communications director and council for senator rand paul. i want to ask you about the daily beast headline. trump whines shown could make me miss my party. is this bad optics? the president being concerned about a big party for him amid a government shutdown?
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>> obviously, it is. but it's also bad optics that people keep leaking information out of the white house. the comment that the president made that is now infamous about africa and haiti was a leaked comment. a lot of leaks coming out of the white house. they need to stop that. erall you look at the past year, i think preside tmp has had an excellent year. i think he got one of his priorities getting tax reform done, regulatory reform, repealing individual mandate of obamacare. those are pretty good victories. stories like that don't help him. >> there is a new nbc news poll which finds more than half americans strongly disapprove of the president. so to brian's point do you think the president has had an excellent year and looking ahead how do optics of the shutdown play into that? he likes to project himself as a
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deal maker. he had the opportunity to do that over a cheese burger lunch in the white house yesterday. didn't happen. >> in terms of the poll numbers in his first year he is ending his presidency with the lowest poll numbers of any president in modern history. it is not just i think the decisions and the policies he has helped push through which have proven very divisive but his style and rhetoric and tendency to tweet that feeds it and this constant need i think to be almost divisive for no end. and i think this plays right into this shutdown. instead of actually i think focussing on what needs to be done or to come to a compromise, he is whining about some party thates going to miss. and to e american people that is just mind blowing. and i'm not sure that anyone
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should expect the second or third or fourth year of his presidency to be different. this is who donald trump is. this is who donald trump was and he is not going to change. this is the reason why you are seeing his numbers fall to these historic levels. >> i want to talk about the president's concerns about the mid term election. he put out four tweets this morning. the third one he put out specifically references the 2018 election and the need for more republicans as a result of that election. the poll that i cited found 38% of voters say we will send a message of opposition to trump with the mid term vote. how difficult does this shutdown make it for republicans? >> it might make it better for republicans. it depends how this plays out. i just don't think that will help democrats at all. i think people will get tired of this and they will want to resolve both continuing resolution and funding the government and daca. they won't want to do them at
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the same time. some polls indicate people want to keep the government functioning while these negotiations continue. congress's numbers are lower than trump. maybe this will be one of those years where incumbents of both parties take a beating and go out and find new jobs. >> in terms of how this plays for democrats, given that the shutdown coverage is dominating headlines a not the accomplishes of t president, is that good or bad for democrats? >> i think it plays right into the narrative that this is a dysfunctional president and a republican party that cannot find any way to govern. and that feeds, i think, one the democratic base. you are seeing this in these races across the country where there is a significant amount of democratic energy and national
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polls looking at the 2018 mid terms and see a 10, 12, 13 point lead. once you get to double digits you see a significant side of a democratic wave. had this president been different in terms of style as well as substance maybe the outcome of this political debate over this shutdown could have been different. he is not a president that has engendered trust or admiration among the american people. that feeds the narrative of who do i blame? i blame the person who went into the white house talking about how he is a master negotiation. >> that's a wrap for this hour. thanks for getting up early with me. appreciate it, guys. the shutdown show down. how daca became such a big part of the story. >> we are a nation that celebrates the ideal of patriotism. and what is patriotism? the love of country. you cannot love your country
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