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that does it for this hour of msnbc live. complete team coverage of the government shutdown continues now with chris welker. we'll have a live interview with white house director of legislative affairs marc short in just a moment. hi, david. thank you to everyone on this very busy saturday we're live right now watching two major stories unfold in washington, the first government shutdown in more than four years. leaders of the house and senate exchanging bitter words as negotiators try to come up with a solution. the shutdown comes on the anniversary of president trump's inauguration. and in cities all across the nation thousands of protesters taking to the streets in the second annual women's march. protesting president trump's agenda and demanding respect and also demanding change. but we do start this hour with the shutdown that began at midnight. and for the moment has paralyzed the federal government. these next few hours could be
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critical in determines whether the doors of government will be open come monday morning. and right now we are no closer to a deal, but a group of bipartisan senators meeting right now in susan collins office trying to figure out if there is a way out of this mess. if there's a deal, the first steps needed to tackle it immediately will happen in the house. some time lawmakers will vote on same-day authority rule. that's essential for the house to pass any continuing resolution coming from the senate to fund the government. now, joining me now to discuss all of this is white house director of legislative affairs marc short. marc, thanks so much for joining me on this very busy saturday for you. really appreciate it. >> kristen, thanks for having me on. >> i want to pick up on the briefing that you just had in the brady briefing room in which you said that there is this short-term deal potentially on the table. it would be a three-week spending bill. it would last until february 8th. it would extend c.h.i.p. for six
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years and of course suspend some obamacare taxes. you called this a concession to democrats. why is this a concession? what part of this is a concession given they want to see a fix for daca? >> well, kristen, i think let's keep in mind there's nothing in the bill that democrats oppose. and so the bill was a four-week bill in the house. i think some democrats have said they want a shorter duration, we're willing to go to three weeks. i think they want to say there needs to be a shorter window to see progress on daca. what still remains incredibly confusing and confounding to us is we were having negotiations on the daca solution, we're anxious to solve that, but why do you shut down the government, stop paying troops, stop paying essential government workers in order to basically look for a solution for 690,000 unlawful residents seems very confounding to us. >> well, before we talk about the negotiations, let me just be very clear, you have called this three-week deal a concession to democrats. so president trump would sign
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this bill into law if it were to pass both chambers, is that accurate? >> that is accurate, kristen, yes. and that's a conversation that he's also had with speaker ryan. so we're confident it would also pass the house. >> okay. do you think there is any chance that that passes today? is the government going to reopen before midnight? >> kristen, like i said to you yesterday, i was more optimistic that we would actually avert a shutdown. i thought the proposal on the table for a six-year reauthorization of children's health insurance program coupled with just a four-week extension of government funding was a practical solution that democrats would support. they chose not to, so i was surprised by that decision yesterday. so it's hard for me to handicap today. right now it does not look like this will get resolved today. it will probably bleed into the rest of the weekend. >> i think if you are an american citizen watching this, you're wondering why there are all these different accounts coming from the different sides because of course you have chuck schumer's office saying the opposite, saying there was a
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deal on the table and that it was the president who sort of e reneged on that deal. you were asked about this during the briefing and we just heard mulvaney say that schumer offered the president $1.6 billion to fund the border wall. the president said that's not nearly enough, that's not what i asked for. this is what max house, schumer's spokesperson had to say. absolutely not, that's now how it went down. the president put the number on the table and that's what was discussed. so why these differing accounts? who's right here? >> kristen, let's step back because i imagine this is frustrating for a lot of americans, frustrating for us too. white house puts forth a budget in february, which we did, congress supposed to complete appropriations process to fund september, we're now in january ready to submit for fiscal '19 and haven't solved fiscal year '18 funding.
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but to your account to what transpired yesterday, if in fact senator schumer is willing to put on the table full funding of the wall that will require basically what the custom border patrol front line officers said they need, that is enormous progress. we've also said we're willing to consider expansion of that daca population. >> his office is saying though he put forward what the president asked for. i gez this really speaks to this broader erosion of trust. >> if they're willing to fund over $20 billion over the next seven years and willing to expand the daca population, that's huge step forward. we've said there's basically four pillars. that dresses two of them. there's still two more on the diversity visa lottery as well as chain migration. four issues we've all discussed bipartisan meeting nobody objected saying these are the four things we need to address.
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so that's progress. but begs the question if we're making this progress, why are we shutting the government down over this? we're moving forward. >> well, they say you're not negotiating in good faith. and i guess the question is, marc, is there a fundamental erosion of trust on both sides? and how can you govern, therefore? >> kristen, i think the dysfunction of congress and the dysfunction of what's happening in washington is certainly one of the things that propelled donald trump into the presidency. we're frustrated too, but, look, we were able to accomplish a lot last year. the president has been able to confirm a supreme court justice, confirm more circuit court judges than any administration of the history of the united states in one year. we've had a lot of legislative achievements. there are things we can continue to do. shutting down the government does not seem a way to get an agreement. >> neither does the name calling, i think, that we're seeing on both sides frankly. you accuse democrats of having a temper tantrum during that briefing. is that productive, marc? why aren't there productive
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negotiations going on? >> kristen, i'm certainly open to different terminology if you wish, but explain to me if you have small children what it is when basically you have a deal on the table that provides somebody -- funding children's program but say we're going to take toys and go home because we're going to shut down the government because of an issue over here being worked on separately. i don't know what else to explain but being a temper tantrum to the american people. >> let me ask you about the president's role in all of this. you've been asked about this before back in 2013 when there was a shutdown under former president obama, president trump -- or then-citizen trump, was very critical. this is what he had to say. take a listen. >> who's going to take the blame? in the board room here, who's getting fired? wlost going to bear the brunt of the responsibility if indeed there is a shutdown over government? >> if you say wlo gets fired, it
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always has to be the top. i mean, problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top. the president's the leader and he's got to get everybody in the room and he's got to lead. >> why isn't he getting everyone into a room today, marc? where's the leadership today? >> kristen, a week you covered our national television and the president hosted in bringing republicans and democrats, house members and senators together at the white house to -- >> but, marc, that was a week ago. that was a week ago. why isn't he calling lawmakers to the white house? >> i'm answering your question. out of that meeting it was decided to have four different members take the lead in the discussions. that has been transpiring over the course of the last week. that was the resolution everybody agreed to. yesterday the president did call senator schumer and invited him to come over for further conversations. i think they both felt the meeting was productive and agreed on a long list of items we need to reach resolution on, but there was not an agreement in the room.
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so we're still looking to try to reach that, but i think the president's been fore leaning in trying to make sure the government stays open. >> i take your point, but my question is the government is shut down today, so where is the urgency at the white house with this president to reopen the government? >> kristen, on thursday the urgency was the president was traveling out of town and yet from air force one calling members of congress throughout the trip to say we need to make sure we get this through the house. it's important we keep the government open. that's what he was doing. yesterday he had senator schumer, leader of the democrats over. we thought we were making progress. we were surprised by the vote last night at midnight. today the president has been on the phone not just with leaders in congress but also cabinet secretary, talk about impact shut down their various departments and what we can be doing to make the burden less on those people most affected. >> let me read you this latest poll that came out from abc news/"the washington post," just 58% of people blame republicans
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and 28% blame democrats for this shutdown. is that a problem for you? >> kristen, i've seen other polls from cnn that say the exact opposite that say more democrats -- i'm honestly not trying to be in here how is it going to play out politically. we want the government open again. that's what we've been pushing for. that's what the o proposal on the table is. that's the bill the president will sign. he's not being obstructionist to this. reality we need 60 votes in the united states senate, therefore we need democrat votes. and we have five who switched over last night, but that's not enough to get us to 60 votes. >> and finally, before i let you go, the president is supposed to be in mar-a-lago right now. he had a big celebration planned for the one-year anniversary of his inauguration. does he see this as an embarrassment that instead he's dealing with a government shutdown? >> i think the president is frustrated, again, that certain democrats have decided to shut down the government. but the president's canceled
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that trip, as you know. he's not going to be participating in the fundraiser tonight at mar-a-lago. instead he's here continuing to work the phones to try to get a deal done. >> well, i know it is a very busy day for you, marc, so thank you so much. really appreciate you're taking time to discuss all of this with us. >> thanks, kristen. >> and joining me now from capitol hill is democratic senator of hawaii. thank you so much for joining me. really appreciate it. >> hi, kristen. >> so, senator, hopefully you could hear my conversation with marc short. >> oh, yes. >> let me just get your reaction because he says it's democrats who aren't negotiating, essentially, and who walked away from a potential deal whachlt do you make of that? is that fair? >> of course not. this is a trump shutdown. it's very clear when i was at the meeting on tuesday he said bring me a bipartisan deal on daca and i'll sign it and he quickly reneged on that. so when citizen trump said any
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government shutdown is on the president, well, apparently when he has those shoes to wear he refuses to step into them and step up. the president from one day to another we don't know where he stands. congress is a separate branch of government. we should act like it. i know we can get into a bipartisan agreement on daca, on children's health, on supporting the department of defense. i know we can do that. that's something we ought to be doing. we should not be waiting around for the president to tell us what he wants because this president is incapable of stepping into the shoes and bringing all of us together. he's made that very plain. >> senator, before we get to daca and the negotiations over
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that, there is this potential short-term three-week deal that may be on the table. is that something you would vote for? it funds the children's health insurance company -- the children's health insurance program, although it does scale back some obamacare taxes. what do you make of that? would you support it? >> we have pushed for a one-day cr, a three-day cr to make sure that we are very focused on negotiating and coming to a compromise so that we can end this government shutdown. >> would you support the three-week deal to reopen the government? to get this government open again. >> i want a shorter cr to force us to -- >> so that's a no. >> -- seriously negotiating. pretty much, no, because what are we going to get for one week less of a shutdown? let me say a little bit about the children's health program. this program ended in september. i did not see mitch mcconnell come down to the floor of the senate to talk about how much he cared about these 9 million children and yet last night he
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is shedding crocodile tears about how much he cares. you know what, the republicans used c.h.i.p., these 9 million children as a trump card to force a short-term cr, which even the department of defense doesn't want, by the way. >> and yet that is something that is a priority for democrats, to see that reauthorized. let me ask you though about -- >> of course. we've been on the floor many times. >> right. let me ask you about daca though. democrats are saying we want to deal with daca now. republicans are saying this is a manufactured crisis because it doesn't actually get rescinded until march. are you overplaying your hand? are democrats overplaying their hands by forcing a shutdown over this? >> i think it's amazing that the president who really lit the fire on daca by ending this program knowing full well, well, apparently they didn't know there were already some 15,000 daca participants who have lost their status who are subject to deportation. they don't seem to know that.
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and when i questioned the homeland security secretary, she didn't know that either which is just astounding as well as appalling. so there is a sense of urgency. i just met with and i have been meeting with daca participants for months now. and just yesterday a group of them came and believe me their lives are on hold. in fact, they're scared out of their minds not just them but their families. there is a sense of urgency. when i hear the president and mitch mcconnell refer to these young people as illegals, that's the attitude that they're showing. it's totally drisrespecting thee young people who want to make a contradiction to our country and we ought to give them that chance. >> senator, as you know, when americans watch this all unfold, it's one of the things that frustrates them most about washington, the inaction, the gridlock. >> yes. >> so do you not all bear responsibility for this?
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>> this is why i say we should not be waiting around for the president to tell us what his position is -- >> well, what do you say to american who is are angry with democrats? >> we're prepared to deal with and negotiate with the republicans. and as i mentioned, i know there is already bipartisan agreement on daca. there was a bipartisan deal that was brought to the president. he said no. there was already agreement to fund the children's health program and also the community health centers. and of course we all support full funding for the department of defense parody for the nondefense side. so we're already going in that direction. what's holding this up would be i would say mitch mcconnell and paul ryan saying we have to wait for the president to tell us what to do. i don't agree with that. >> senator hirono, i know it's a busy day for you. thank you so much for taking time to talk to us today. >> aloha. >> and to you. as we continue to watch movements on capitol hill, we're
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also watching women unite across the country for the second annual women's march. next we'll have live reports from the east to the west coast as thousands take to the streets on the first anniversary of donald trump's presidency. that's when we come right back. stay with us. >> i'm standing here today honoring the women who are victims of sexual assault and women who are just victims of unequal pay and immigrants in our country. and we need to stand up and time is up. that can take you out of the game for weeks, even if you're healthy. pneumococcal pneumonia is a potentially serious bacterial lung disease that in severe cases can lead to hospitalization. it may hit quickly, without warning, causing you to miss out on the things you enjoy most. prevnar 13® is not a treatment for pneumococcal pneumonia... it's a vaccine you can get to help protect against it. prevnar 13® is approved for adults to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13® if you have had
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and welcome back on this saturday in which the federal government is shut down. i am kristen welker in washington, d.c. happening right now, congress still at an impasse over the government shutdown. much more on that in just a moment. our other major story though, tens overthousands of people have gathered in cities all across the country to mark one year since the historic women's march. this year they are taking to the streets determined to flex their power in the voting booth and the ballot. president trump weighing in a short time ago tweeting, beautiful weather all over our great country, a perfect day for all women to march. get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that is taking place over the last 12 months. lowest female unemployment in 18 years. we have reporters on the ground coast-to-coast covering the marches. nbc's blayne alexander right here in washington, d.c. and gina kim in los angeles.
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first, i want to go to blayne. tell me what the mood is like there and are folks more energized in the sense that they have a mission this year, they want to get people to the ballot boxes in 2018? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, kristen. you know what, we are certainly seeing the same level of energy we've been seeing all day. i'm standing here in front of the white house, a place of course you know very well. and as you know well there are typically a lot of people, a lot of sometimes protesters, sometimes people with messages out here in front of the white house gates, but we're certainly seeing an increased number today. what you're looking at are kind of the remnants of a very, very large march that started down at the lin kol memorial, marched up about a mile and a half here to in front of the white house. and this is a different message than we saw last year. it certainly evolved some, i think that's the best way to say it. last year of course very much focused on the inauguration of president trump.
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speaking against his policies, against his message. this year however i've spoken with a lot of people and they say it's about organizing. it's about getting women, empowering women not only to go out and vote but to run for office, office from national all the way down to the state and local level. so i talk with a bunch of people out here, i want to bring in olivia. i was interviewing you a few minutes ago. this is your first time here, you worked here last year. tell me what is the energy like out here? >> i was amazing. i couldn't come out last year because i was volunteering in africa. i was watching it and following it and if it was going to happen again i knew i needed to be a part of this. it's unlike anything else to be a part of. you feel united and everyone's voice is heard and strong. >> reporter: one thing i've heard from a lot of people out here is there's not just one single message. there's a lot that's happened nth past year. a lot of people thinking about the me too movement, about immigration, was there one particular thing you heard during the rally today that really spoke to you? >> i was really a fan of the
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cheer no hate, no fear, immigrants are welcome here. as a third generation italian immigrant, i think that's very important to me. i wouldn't be here without immigration. i don't think any of us would really be here without immigration. and we really need to acknowledge that. >> reporter: olivia, thank you so much. that's something we've heard from so many people out here today, kristen. another thing before i send it back to you, as you can imagine the shutdown is on the minds of so many people. in fact, i spoke with one group earlier who said they really didn't have any plans of coming out here before the shutdown, but once they saw everything that was happening last night on capitol hill, they changed their plans, they came out because they said it was important that they make their voices heard. and they said it gave them even more fuel going into the midterm elections later this year, kristen. >> fascinating to hear from some of the folks who are out there and marching. all right, blayne, thank you for that reporting. now i want to head out to los angeles and gina kim. gina, what are folks telling you there? why are they marching today? >> reporter: hi there, kristen.
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this being los angeles we had quite a bit of hollywood star power out here. melissa ethridge and adi adina menzel just got done performing at that stage. other people that have spoken, scarlett johansson, natalie portman, e va longoria, they all went up on stage and had very frank disturbing stories about coming up in hollywood. and this being ground zero for some of those meteoric falls of some of the sexual predators that we've seen in the entertainment industry all over the past three months, as you can imagine their speeches got a lot of applause. but just like coast-to-coast we've had a lot of issues represented here. right now i want to talk to several women who some people believe immigrated from the right countries, right? this is alisandra immigrated from italy, and yena from norway, and christinas from
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sweden and spain, did i get that right? awesome. so what brings you out today? you guys were out here last year, right? >> we were out here last year. we are here today because we think it's utterly so important to stand up and fight for a real leader and real change and real justice. and real empathy and opportunity for immigrants from all countries and for women immigrants from all countries not just the most desirable countries. >> reporter: and you guys were here last year. a lot has happened since then. what is your hope going forward? >> my hope going forward is that everybody can take this energy and galvanize, take it to your workplace, take it to your communities, take it to your neighborhoods, take it to your friends, your family, galvanize the power and the empowerment that's here today. >> reporter: thank you so much, ladies. really appreciate it. they've been sticking it out all day. this event is going to go until about 3:00 pacific time. and lots more speakers coming up
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ahead, but as you heard these women say, that's a beat we've gotten all day people saying we just can't imagine not being here. and they really traveled here from so many different places to make sure that they are represented here today, kristen. >> and you make a really important point, gina, which is that the me too movement is also adding extra energy to these marches that we're witnessing all across the country. thank you to you. and to nbc's blayne alexander. more now on the shutdown of the federal government and the blame game. the votes were there. the president was ready. the solution to this manufactured crisis was inches away. but then the democratic leader took the extraordinary step of filibustering this legislation, preventing it from passing and plunging the country into this totally avoidable mess. >> negotiating with president
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trump is like negotiating with jell-o. that's why this compromise will be called the trump shutdown. the president's behavior is enimkal to compromise which is required to getting things done in government. >> i want to bring in our panel now. white house correspondent for pbs news hour and msnbc contributor, chief washington reporter for the boston herald and msnbc contributor kimberly atkins, and national political reporter for nbc news digital jonathan allen. thanks to all of you for being here. really appreciate it. so we have a lot to break down. we had the interview with senator hirono and marc short. and my takeaway if you listen to both of them is that both sides are still dug in. i don't hear any ounce of compromise. what did you take away? >> i think it's remarkable that essentially marc short was saying the democrats are still throwing a tantrum. he didn't walk back from that language. he didn't give any type of inkling they were going to try
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to talk about daca. instead he started talking about the fact they need more money for the border wall. so there's this idea that i think some point they're all going to have to get in the room but the person to convince them to get in the room and trust each other, i don't know that's going to be president trump. i think that's what's remarkable. most presidents would be able to walk across the hill and come over and have a cheeseburger. in this case people don't trust president trump. >> kimberly, pick up on the point of trust and leadership. because there seems to be a trust vacuum here on both sides, frankly. and we haven't seen or heard from the president. we've heard from him on twitter, but he hasn't come out to address reporters today. >> he hasn't. and i've heard from republicans and democrats saying, look, if the president came out and gave some clarity or led the room or brought both sides to the table and said, look, work this out, that's where that movement can be. and i think there is an erosion of trust here. i think it's probably with every day there's less reason for
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democrats to trust him based on what chuck -- senator chuck schumer said it seems like two times now the president has essentially held the football out like lucy when democrats went to kick they ended up flat on their back. so i think in this sense there's less incentive for democrats to negotiate with him for fear he'll just walk it back when they walk away. >> jonathan, at the same time you and i were there in 2013 during that government shutdown. former president obama got a lot of the blame and everyone wanted to know why he couldn't just lock lawmakers in the room. that was an actual question he got, why can't you lock them in a room and get a deal done? is there a point at which the blame really does lie on lawmakers now and democrats and republican leadership need to get together and figure this out? >> well, couple things. in that 2013 edition of shutdown politics, president obama had also at the same time rolled out an obamacare website that was failing. >> right. >> and it was distracting from
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his shutdown politics -- i'm sorry, the shutdown politics were distracting from that. so i think he has benefit in keeping it down. the president of the united states it's hard for him during a shutdown to not take a significant amount of blame. the president campaigns all of our recent presidents have campaigned on ending recent dysfunction in washington and they've all gotten here and been subjected to dysfunction and created some. i think when you look at this you have to say where are the bases? we're going into a midterm election and where is the republican base and the trump republican base and the democrat democratic base. the trump republican base is okay with shutdowns and 40% of them told pollsters last year they wanted to deport the dreamers, not find a path to citizenship but deport them. the democratic base doesn't want them to keep being charlie brown, and they like the fight. >> guys, great conversation. thank you for those insights. appreciate it very much.
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taking a live look now at the statue of liberty, it is closed today, folks, because of the shutdown. but many other national parks, there's the statue of liberty, are not yet affected by the shutdown. so more on how it could affect you after the break and we'll check in with democratic congressman mike quigley from illinois to see how negotiations are going. that's as we head to break. a quick programming note, msnbc has continuing coverage of the government shutdown tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern. joy reid followed by chris matthews at 7:00 and ali velshi at 8:00. you won't believe how much is new at red lobster... ...that is, until you taste our new menu. discover more ways to enjoy seafood with new tasting plates small plates, with big flavor- like yucatan shrimp in chili-lime butter and caramelized pineapple.
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joining me now to discuss all of this, democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois. thank you so much, congressman. really appreciate it. >> glad to be here after spending some time in the d.c. march standing with planned parenthood. >> got a big turnout today. that's for sure. let me get your sense of where things stand right now on capitol hill. you're there, we're not, obviously the hold up is in the senate. but do you get the sense there's going to be a break to this log jam today? >> well, i like to think it would be done before the weekend ends, start of business monday it's a whole different kind of shutdown. because a lot of workers aren't there moving this country forward. i think it's instructive. i was part of a compromise that got this government funded working with republicans and the president of the united states the last four years. what's the difference? the man in the white house this time is saying what the country needs is a good shutdown. the man in the white house the last four years worked with
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republicans. and republicans agreed to core difference here, they agreed to parody on raising the spending levels. that's not happening now. >> well, and to be fair, that quote that you just cited from president trump was from several months ago. in this case he's been pretty clear he wants to avoid a shutdown. and democrats are saying, look, they want this spending deal to deal with the issue of daca. my question to you is, are your democratic colleagues in the senate overplaying their hands? >> i don't think it's just about daca. and daca is extraordinarily important to me. i think it's about those spending levels. i think it's about making sure that the 9 million children that are getting insured through c.h.i.p. continue. so, i mean, they can coin it any way they want -- >> but c.h.i.p. is a part of the short-term deal that passed through the house and that was on the table. >> well, i understand, but as we began this process that's what we were fighting for. i'm explaining it's not just
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about daca. we had several elements on the table that dealt with financial parody and how we raise those limits. >> congressman, before i let you go, let me get your reaction to a new poll that shows 56% of americans say avoiding a shutdown is more important to them than continuing daca. are you concerned that democrats are going to pay a political price at the polls because of this shutdown? >> you know, i was always told we should do the right thing and i'd take a poll every single day to see which way the wind was blowing. again, i support daca. this was a self-created problem by this president. it didn't have to exist. so it's not just about daca although daca's extraordinarily important, it's about parity and how we fund this government. we did it for four years. the difference is this president. and as saying before, we had a bipartisan compromise on c.h.i.p., on daca, and this president is the one that struck this down.
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that's why we're still closed down. >> all right. illinois congressman mike quigley, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> any time. thank you. >> and my colleague nbc's kasi hunt just caught up with senator chuck schumer on capitol hill. here's what he had to say. >> reporter: could you support a continuing resolution until february 8th? >> well, we have to make sure that there are the kinds of protections are the things we care about, opioids and everything else, daca -- >> reporter: do you need an agreement? >> well, we need some kind -- we need to have a serious discussion of where we go from here. >> reporter: what kind of commitment do you need -- >> i'm not going to negotiate here on tv. >> reporter: the white house today says that you have the gall to suggest you offered president trump a border wall. they say you offered $1.6 billion in funding, which was in that budget -- >> the person who said it, mick mulvaney was not in the room. he does not know the truth. i do. he put a number on the table and we took it. >> reporter: how long is the
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government going to be shut down? >> hopefully it will end as soon as possible, as soon as our republican friends get their act together. we're in a situation where trump says negotiate with mcconnell and ryan, ryan and mcconnell saying negotiate with trump. and trump never -- he shakes hands and says here's where we're at and then two hours later backs off. the republicans are dysfunctional. they're in total disarray. and that's why america knows this is a trump shutdown. >> all right. that was kcd.c. and my colleague casey hunt interviewing chuck schumer who seems just as dug in as he was this morning. this standoff does continue. as we continue to track the developments there, we are also monitoring these marches across the country as thousands take part in this year's women's march. after the break, a live report from new york. stay wus.
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♪ ain't going to let no congress turn around ♪ happening now in cities all across the country, tens of thousands of women and men protesting the trump administration and demanding change in washington. you're looking live now at marches in san francisco and new york. tomorrow it will be one year since the big women's march that followed president trump's inauguration. this year they're vowing to take their strength in numbers to the polls in november. new york city the march has been going on for a few hours now.
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in the middle of it all is nbc's mariana atencio. what a folks there telling you are their key issues as they approach the midterms? >> reporter: kristen, a lot more people than many people expected for sure. we have been marching with folks since 11:30 in the morning. they have not stopped walking on sixth avenue. when they tell us that daca is a big issue for them this time around, but also what you were saying registering voters and taking this energy to the polls. they're also inspired by many of the female leaders that we have seen here today. leaders like rabbi sharon finebaum. rabbi, what has been your impression of the march this time around? >> the march has been so powerful to be here today. energetic, diverse, all ages, all kinds of people. and i think this expresses one year since this sociopath has become our president we see the response of the people. >> reporter: i was telling our
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kristen welker that i've seen a lot of daca signs. i know you were part of a group protesting for a daca fix on capitol hill. why is it such a big issue this time around here on the streets of new york city? >> this country is about welcoming people who have not yet arrived and making sure those who are here feel welcome. i am horrified at the anti-immigrant, anti-muslim, anti-lgbt agenda that this administration has adopted. this is not the america i love and not the america of the hundreds of thousands of people who are here today. >> reporter: tell me, from last year to this year, what do you think has changed about this movement? >> i think the movement, the people have become more resolute, more determined to make sure that we're going to take this country back. and i am completely confident that that will happen. we're watching our democracy being really demolished by this administration. and we will simply fight harder and stronger. i think one of the big changes also is that we understand we're in a marathon and there's a
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sense of building infrastructure and institutions and movements and also developing spiritual strength to survive. and that's why i believe as a rabbi it's so essential for all of us to be here. >> reporter: kristen, i want to interrupt the rabbi for a second because i want to show you that you've just seen policemen walking over here this way. that means they're opening up some of the streets here in new york city, which means we've also reached the end of the march here, but a lot more people certainly walking that way toward the 43rd street and sixth avenue. and, rabbi, as long as i have you here with me, i know that hillary clinton you supported last year. she lost, but this movement emerged, briefly can you tell us, have you sense that she's had influence in many of the folks out here? >> i think she continues to inspire so many. and i don't think she lost. i think our country lost. >> reporter: thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: kristen, back to you. >> mariana, what a great
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interview and a reminder of what this debate over daca is about. really appreciate all your great work today. turning now to a big nbc news exclusive, a unified korea, north and south korea are ironing out details for the winter olympic games amid tensions in the region. here's nbc "nightly news" anchor lester holt. >> good evening from the north korean capital. three weeks until the winter olympic games in south korea and there's growing anticipation here. heated tensions grip this region, two sides have met face-to-face in recent days working on the framework for north korean participation in the games. it does not of course mask the ongoing nuclear tensions. we'll have more this week on "nbc nightly news," for now i'm lester holt, nbc news, pyongyang, north korea. >> we'll have much more of lester's exclusive reporting throughout the weekend. and be sure to watch lester live from the region tuesday on "nbc nightly news."
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immigration -- >> we talked about it before, but i'll wait for the next meeting. >> that is senator jeff flake negotiating. back with us now. chief washington reporter for "boston herald" and jan then allen. >> thanks, guys for sticking around. really appreciate it. let me ask you about what we heard from chuck schumer. there's been this he said/he said about what happened in the meeting with the president. the president says he basically don't get what he was asking for from chuck schumer, he says chuck schumer put a ridiculous offer on the table. >> he says that's not the way he went down. he says he accepted basically the president's offer. what do you make of this? >> i think it shows just how delicate these negotiations are and how dug in both sides are. it seemed to me given what senator schumer said and what
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mellow, everyone. we are following two major stories on this saturday evening. 17 hours and counting. that's how long the government has been shut down. it comes on the one-year anniversary of president trump's inauguration. lawmakers still unable to find a solution. both sides blaming the other. also, tens of thousands of people are taking part in the second annual women's march in support of women's right and to express their discontent with the president's leadership. but we do start with all eyes on capitol hill. in particular the senate. the big question facing lawmakers, will they reach a deal to reopen the government the a short time ago senator mcconnell tried to bring up a key vote funding the government until february 8th. >> i ask unanimous

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