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>> west virginia, north dakota. these are all places where they could potentially lose the senate. i'm a few seconds early but it is almost the top of the hour at 9:00 p.m. i'm casey hunt. we are still insood tide the ro on capitol hill. we are waiting with bated breath. we have been waiting all day for senator mitch mcconnell. he is now set to speak this hour on the senate floor. at this hour, lawmakers are trying to find a way to get government working again. and the question is now what could possibly end the stalemate. a resolution could come in the form of a short-term spending bill with a public promise to put an immigration bill on the senate floor by february 8th. the deadline had been 1:00 a.m. the senate was set to hold a critical vote to reopen the fwom government. here is mitch mcconnell earlier today. >> if nothing changes, the cloture vote will be no sooner
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than 1:00 a.m. tonight. we could resolve this much earlier if the democratic leader withdraws his procedural objection and allows the senate to proceed to a vote. our constituents want us to end this. >> but democratic leader chuck schumer didn't sound optimistic earlier on the senate floor as he continued to lay the blame squarely at the feet of republican dysfunction. >> not only do they not consult us, they can't even get on the same page with their president, the president from their own party. the congressional leaders tell me to negotiate with president trump. president trump tells me to figure it out with the congressional leaders. this political catch 22 never seen before has driven our government to dysfunction. americans know why the dysfunction is occurring.
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a dysfunctional president, hence we are in a trump shutdown. >> that was leader schumer of course earlier today. now it looks like we're going to get at least a morsel and perhaps more of new information when senator mitch mcconnell set to take the floor this hour. his office saying 9:00 p.m. still with me are rachel bade and michael steele. let's talk about -- there's been a lot of back and forth even tonight. there was a time when i would have said, i thought the shutdown was going to continue, we're going to be in day three. cornyn says we might actually figure this out. >> cornyn has been one of the most consistently pessimistic on the idea that these bipartisan negotiations are going to go anywhere fast. the fact that he's willing to at least hint at some form of problem is a good sign. >> a big question i have coming
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out of that is, one of the things the progressives were pushing for in this deal is a vote in the house on whatever immigration bill passes the senate. speaker paul ryan has not been willing to commit to anything like that. he has a more conservative conference. and if he did something like that, put a bill on the floor that a majority of the majority did not support, conservatives could frankly come for him the way they came for john boehner. he has really held the line on that. i'm curious whatever deal they're cooking up right now. i'm assuming he's continuing to reject that, but it would be curious to see. >> take us behind the thinking of paul ryan right now. you watched john boehner go through this. a lot of those same dynamics are still at play in the house. what are the issues on the house side if the senate passes something? >> i think his priority so make sure this is a senate problem and remains a senate problem. the house passed the continuing resolution with the chip funding. he wants to make sure no
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agreement is made that bind him in any way without his consent. the house will make its own decision and ultimately the white house will as well. >> we have a little bit of mitch mcconnell who has been in something of a box over the course of the past week. let's take a look. >> i'm looking for something that president trump supports and he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign. as soon as we figure out what he is for, then i would be convinced that we were not just spinning our wheels. for most of us in the house and senate on the republican side, we're interested in what his views are. and those have not been made fully apparent yet. >> so clearly mitch mcconnell has had some trouble with the white house and their consistency. what do we think can going on do -- is going on down on the other end of pennsylvania avenue
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tonight? >> president trump is getting advice from two different parts of the republican party. lindsey graham wants this to be bipartisan. obviously he likes his own ideas chr which a lot of conservatives do not. then he's hearing from people w -- mcconnell just mentioned speaker paul ryan as well. he is not going to put anything on the floor that the president doesn't support. they need the president to get behind something. that's why this whole thing with trump not knowing who to listen to in the republican party really makes their job a lot harder. >> i think we need to separate out the two issues. there's the issue of immigration where the white house needs to get their story straight. but on the more limited issue of the shutdown, i think the white house is playing this smart. senator schumer and the democrats are trying to brand this as the republican shutdown.
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the president is not making himself the face of this shutdown. i think that's pretty wise and restrained on his part. >> immigration you mentioned as an issue. they're clearly been putting pressure on democrats. president trump's campaign putting this ad out yesterday. not clear it's ever going to air anywhere on television. but a pretty difficult message. take a look. >> that's illegal immigrant charged with murdering two police officers. it's pure evil. president trump is right. build the wall, deport criminals, stop illegal immigration now. democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. president trump will fix our border and keep our families safe. >> that ad is produced by an outside group. >> donald j. trump for president
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is an outside group? >> it's not done from people working inside the white house. >> first of all, not an outside group. paid for and approved by the president himself. it seems like this line of messaging is at least under scoring democratic fears about how this was going for them. >> yeah. i think there are some republicans who think that ad potentially goes too far. speaker paul ryan was asked about it this morning. he basically said it wasn't helpful. look, democrats and republicans agree that they need to find a solution for d.r.e.a.m.ers, these people came here to the united states as kids. it was their parents who brought them here illegally. they've known no other country. republicans agree with that. republicans have to tread carefully to try not to alienate that population. >> i am sympathetic to mark short on this front. as an administration official, you have to be very very careful not to imply there's
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coordination with the political side. you have to walk that line carefully. there's no doubt there is at least some potential political advantage in branding this as a government shutdown to protect illegal immigrants. while many republicans want to help d.r.e.a.m.ers, want to get a good resolution on that issue, there's no way that they would go along with this idea of shutting down the government to get that result. >> i want to try to bring our viewers up to speed on where we are, reset a little bit. we want to emphasize that right now our reporting is in its very early stages about what is bringing mitch mcconnell to the floor tonight. we've got a couple of data points that suggests this means they are moving towards some sort of deal that could potentially resolve this government shutdown. forgive me for looking down and reading off my ipad. our capitol hill team is feeding us information here in realtime. we have one source on background. keep that in mind as you kind of evaluate this information.
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but it sounds like there is at least some sign that they are making real progress. keep in mind, you are looking right now live at the senate chamb chamber. mitch mcconnell is standing at the lectern. so far he has not gun begun to speak. mark meadows is actually on the senate floor as we speak. so we are going to try to figure out how to get him back here. hopefully being called out publicly will incentivize them to come back so we can give you a little more insight into what's going on. if there were to be a potential deal here, it sounds like this would potentially be something along the lines of what we have been talking about for for more of the day. the proposal on the table is a continuing resolution for government funding that would
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extend to february 8th. in theory, what they were going to be voting on overnight tonight, remember, we were set for a 1:00 a.m. vote here in the senate. so the idea would be to stop the shutdown, provide a real path forward with certain dates over the course of the next three weeks to meet some of the other benchmarks here. now, the challenge, of course, has been and remains where the house or the white house are on this proposal. so my main question having been reporting this out all day is how far is mitch mcconnell going to distance himself from the t president here. how far out on a limb is he going to be willing to go. you were just talking about the challenges of potentially doing this without paul ryan on board. >> the president is being smart and being quiet about this.
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i don't think you're going to see an explicit white house guarantee before they see the government reopen. they will talk only about substantive matters only when the government is reopened. you won't see any kind of real concessions. if you reward bad behavior, it creates an incentive for democrats to do this over and over again. >> you sound like you're parenting. >> sometimes you've got to let a kid stick a penny in a light socket to figure out that's not a great idea. >> i'm going to interrupt you briefly. i want to point out to our viewers -- if the control room is able to take dun odown our bt would be great. that's mitch mcconnell, john cornyn, dick durbin to the left. what you're looking at is the entire top leadership of the senate now on the floor huddling. we know it's difficult to kind of intuit what is going on from
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the pictures we are getting from the c-span cameras in the chamb chamber, i want to emphasize how it is to see what are normally private negotiations play out in such a public way. we saw that all night on friday night, groups of senators going back and forth. i'm going to narrate for just a little bit, because we are seeing that mcconnell is looking like he's going to start speaking imminently. mitch mcconnell on the senate floor. we are waiting for him to start making remarks to see if we're going to go into a day three of a government shutdown or if we think they're going to end this after two days. mcconnell and schumer spoke on friday. mcconnell standing up to talk to john cornyn. perhaps some sort of wrinkle here as we are watching this live in realtime. rachel, i interrupted you.
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what is your take on what we're seeing unfold right now? >> that's clearly a power huddle there talking about if they're going to get to a paeshl deotenl here. i was s i don't think speaker ryan or the white house would necessarily come out and oppose that. speaker ryan's point was that you can't bind the house. even if they pass something in the senate, he's not going to make a promise they're going to do so as well in the house. if that's what it takes to reopen the government, i don't think you're going to see a lot of republican opposition. but the question becomes do they actually get to deal by the next shutdown date three weeks later. i actually think we could be back here with another shutdown again.
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>> looked like when they came in, both senator schumer and senator mcconnell had remarks prepared and the fact they were talking together suggests hopefully some sort of agreement has been reached. if they were going to attack each other, they probably wouldn't have had to huddle beforehand. >> indeed. we have heard that mark meadows says he knows what's going on, but won't say anything about it. here we are waiting with bated breath to see if this is good news as far as tend of a shutdown or if we are going to see this continue into tomorrow. the insentive, centive had been throughout the course of the day. again, we have to go back to this question. if meadows is on the senate floor, that would suggest they are at least having those conversations with the house.
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>> there would never be any public binding of the house, but you do want to take a temperature check before announcing any potential agreement to make sure they're not going to blow it up immediately. >> sounds like we have leanne caldwell reporting on this. what do we know about what we may hear from mcconnell on the floor? >> i'm not sure exactly what mcconnell is going to say. but we are hearing details about the contours of a possible deal that schumer and mcconnell might have agreed to. we know that it's about the three week extension of funding until february 8th about a commitment to take up daca or immigration. but it's also much broader. it includes other issues at hand. it's not just about daca and immigration. it's also about this two-year spending battle that's going on
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and how to fund the government for the next two years. >> mcconnell is on the floor speaking. we're going to go to the floor live now. >> senator flake and senator collins and many others who have been working across the aisle to help resolve the impasse we find ourselves in. when the democrat filibuster of the democrat funding bill ends, the serious, bipartisan negotiations that have been going on for months now to resolve our unfinished business, military spending, disaster relief, health care, immigration and border security will continue. it would be my intention to resolve these issues as quickly as possible so that we can move onto other business that's important to our country. however, should these issues not
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be resolved by the time the funding bill before us expires on february 8th, 2018, assuming that the government remains open, it would be my intention to proceed to legislation that would address daca, border security and related issues. it is also my intention to take up legislation regarding increased dpe ed defense spendi disaster relief and other important matters. the shutdown should stop today. and we'll soon have a vote that will allow us to do exactly that. so let's step back from the brink. let's stop victimizing the american people and get back to work on their behalf.
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now now, in that regard, mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that notwithstanding rule 22, the senate vote at 10:00 p.m. tonight on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur with amendment. further that if cloture is invoked, all post cloture time be considered expired and the senate immediately vote on the motion to concur with further amendment with no intervening action or debate. >> is there objection? >> yes. reserving the right to object, mr. president. >> democratic leader -- >> i am happy to continue my discussion with the majority leader about reopening the government. we've had several conversations. talks will continue. but we have yet to reach an agreement on a path forward that would be acceptable for both sides. for that reason, i object. >> objection is heard. >> therefore, mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that notwithstanding rule 22, the senate vote at noon tomorrow on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur with
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amendment. >> is there objection? without objection. >> mr. president. >> senator from arizona. >> mr. president, on friday i voted with many of my colleagues here not to accept the deal that was offered that the time, the cr to go for four weeks. i felt that was unnecessarily long. and also i voted against it because i felt like a lot of my democratic colleagues and some of my republican colleagues, that we need to deal with the situation on immigration. and that we shouldn't wait for the white house to indicate its preference. i felt that we could have an agreement to move forward.
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so i voted against the proposal at that time. in the intervening time, we worked with the majority leader to have a shorter time frame which has now been offered. that of february 8th. that's longer than i would like, but it's shorter than a four-week cr. also, we've had an agreement that the majority leader has just announced that if an agreement on immigration has not been reached by that time, that the majority leader using his discretion and his authority as majority leader will move to immigration and at that time we can deal with the daca issue and broader immigration issues generally. that moving to immigration, my understanding is and i believe the commitment is not to prejudice one bill over another. but anyone can bring forward their bill. there's several of us who have been working on a bipartisan
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bill. i believe we have seven republicans and seven democrats on that effort right now. that legislation certainly will be considered, as will other legislation. as it should be. i think the senate should act like the senate. i just want to say that there's been a lot of rhetoric over the last couple of days about whose shutdown this is, who should have the blame. there's enough blame to go around. i hope that we can move away from that and find a way to open the government back up and move about our business and let the senate legislate as it should. so i will add my vote for this agreement as the majority leader has simply outlined, that we have a cr that runs through february 8th. we seek to have an agreement on immigration before that time as well as the other outstanding
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issues. but if an agreement has not been reached by february 8th, that we move to immigration and that the senate deal with it as the senate should without relying on the white house or other bodies, other chambers to dictate what we do here and deal with this issue as we've dealt with it in the past, by debating it, by amending legislation and by moving forward. with that, i yield the floor. >> and that was jeff flake speaking on the senate floor after we learned quite a bit of new information here. so we had been telling you that the senate was going to vote at 1:00 a.m. that is no longer the case. they are planning a noon vote after mitch mcconnell went to the senate floor to say that he will make a commitment to deal
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the immigration after february 8th if the government is reopened and a short-term bill to fund it until that date is passed. there would then be, he says, bipartisan negotiations to try to find a broader budget deal. and in the event that nothing is actually agreed to in that time period, that he would make a commitment to put immigration legislation on the senate floor. now, jeff flake seemed to describe that commitment as open-ended, one where different pieces of legislation could come and potentially be voted on. chuck schumer was not ready to take a vote on this tonight. the vote will now be held at noon. i'm now here with congressman mark meadows, who's actually just come over from the senate floor. congressman, what's your sense of what's going on behind the scenes? have they been in touch with you conservatives in your conference? do you feel as though this is
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moving in the right direction? >> i think it's moving in the right direction. have they been in contact with me? no. this is a senate negotiation, as it should be. it really rests in the hands of the senate. you heard senator jeff flake talking about commitments they have made internally. mike and i would agree that's the way it should be. let each clahamber do their wor. the president set a timeline that said that we need to be debating this by march the 5th. well indeed we're going to be debating it in the senate and the house, perhaps changing two separate votes going to conference. that's the way it should work.
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to suggest i was part of the negotiations would be inaccurate. >> let's listen to mcconnell again. >> no further business come before the senate, i ask to stand adjourned under the previous order. >> senate stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. >> so the senate is now adjourned for the evening. business concluded. stands adjourned until 10:00 tomorrow morning when we are expecting this noon vote. congressman, i did not hear criticism of mitch mcconnell. >> no. i think in fact just the opposite. i met with the leader and with senator cornyn just a few minutes ago to thank them for their leadership. it's interesting. we had 43 democrats vote against that. we now have two republicans who have gone the other way. so i guess the question is what's going to happen with
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those other 43 democrats now that they realize that the debate they've been asking for is going to happen within a defined timeline outlined by leader mcconnell. at this point, i think it's time to open the government and at least let's have a rigorous debate. >> you said you were behind the scenes with john cornyn and mitch mcconnell. did they give you a sense of what made the difference here? >> listen, the senate does their will. the house does ours. i can tell you their including me in was more of a courtesy in terms of just casual conversation. it was not part of the debate and i don't want to characterize it as such. you have the two most senior republican senators on the senate floor late on a sunday because they're taking it seriously. hopefully senator schumer can
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talk to some of his colleagues to convince them to see the merits of having an open and honest debate. that's what the american people expect. quite frankly, i'm looking forward to it. >> have you spoken to the white house? the president being the giant wildcard that the president has proved to be this last year. >> the president in his conversations with me has been very consistent on three pra parameters that he wants. if they address those three things, i fully expect him to sign that into law. now, it's a matter of what are those three details and the way that you go about it really is what's creating the dynamic that we have here tonight and why i'm here on a sunday evening talking to you here in the capital instead of at home with my family in north carolina. >> michael steele, what's your critical question with the congressman sitting here about how this unfolds? >> i think that the fact that they have an agreement to vote
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tomorrow is great progress. i think the fact that senator flake looks ready to support it is really helpful. democrats have argued we didn't cause this shutdown because some republicans voted gern ed gns dr as well. i also think that it's important that senator flake implied that there's not going to be one deal on the dreamers that will be debated as part of this process. we're going to let the senate do its job, debate multiple proposals, amendments offered. go to the house, the house works its will. we've talked a lot about how senate democrats in red states are in peril. the house is on the flip side of that. the majority makers in the house, the moderate house districts that we rely on for the republican majority, they can't be seen as being too hard line on immigration.
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they need a just and equitable settlement for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> they've been frustrated without a deal on daca. listen, if the house works its will, generally what happens, the conservative bill comes out, it goes to the senate, it gets more moderate. perhaps conservativines vote on the initial bill as it comes off. some may fall off and you get more moderates. generally starting in the center is not the way that you do it. you start in the center, either way you go, you're losing constituents. start to the right, move it to the center until you get to 218 and 60 in the senate. >> if speaker ryan put a conference vote on the floor that didn't have the support of the majority of republicans? >> he's made a commitment to do that. has he recommitted to that in
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the past two days? >> not in the past two days. but we've taken him at his word that he has been consistent in that. i think ultimately for something that the president will sign into law, it's going to have to have the majority of the majority. it may have a lot of moderate members voting for it and perhaps some on the right not voting for it. in the end, you look at the body. it's going to probably have to have the majority of the majority. >> there's a path to put together a bill that will protect these folks and also our border enforcement. >> are you dhaconfident that th president can be clear about what he wants? >> i am. as we get into this debate, i think the president's style is such that he asks for all kinds of input from a variety of
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sources. i've watched him create a lot of discussion just among different people saying this person believes this and this one believes the other. you can see in the oval office real discussion or debate might be a polite way to say it that will break out just because of differing opinions sitting across the desk for him. he's very clear in what he wants. i think we'll what does the two chambers of congress come up with. ultimately it will be a deal to make sure those with deferred action do not get deported. >> thanks for coming back over. >> thank you. good to be with you. we are going to have much more live on this breaking news. your brain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory.
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that the government remains open, it would be my intention to proceed to legislation that would address daca, border security and related issues. it is also my intention to take up legislation regarding increased defense spending, disaster relief and other important matters. the shutdown should stop today. >> mitch mcconnell on the senate floor earlier tonight making a public commitment to bring up an gri immigration related bill after february 8th if they can't reach a broader bipartisan agreement in the meantime, this of course in exchange for reopening the government for that period of time. tonight we heard from senator jeff flake on the senate floor, who said he's willing to support this funding bill. he was one of the republicans who voted against it as the
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government was headed toward a shutdown. senator lindsey graham said i'm very pleased to hear majority leader mcconnell commit to the senate that if we do not make a breakthrough on immigration by february 8th, the senate will take the issue up. flake and graham were giving quite a bit of cover to the democrats, who had voted to shut down the government, essentia y essentially. there was a lot of concern leading up to that vote about where graham and flake were going to stand if they were going to hold firm and also vote no. taken together,s th s thathat i significant signal to democrats. that vote will be held at noon tomorrow. to talk more about all of this breaking news, i want to bring in garrett hike, kelly
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o'donnell. garrett, i want to start with you. take us through the back and forth. i know you were on the second floor. what did you see? what was the mood like? and how do we proceed from here? is schumer going to take this? >> reporter: that's the million dollar question. it seems like chuck schumer wants to let this marinate overnight. if you think about all the other deals and starts of deals that we've had over the last week or so about this, the x factor has been and remains the president. the possibility here that a deal that gets struck tonight could be undermined by the president at 6:00 in the morning tomorrow is the kind of thing that has to be on top of mind for everyone. you touched on graham and flake. lindsey graham has been telegraphing this to anyone who would listen, that after that first vote he felt like the cr that goes to the 8th of february was going to be good enough for him. i think you've seen this very light touch pressure from graham
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and flake towards their democratic colleagues, with whom they're very much aligned on the immigration issue specifically. they're going to have to find a deal they can take because they're not going to get that cover from their republican colleagues so far. this is an interesting move by mitch mcconnell, because he's not overpromising. he's not offering to pass a bill. he's not offering to attach any of these pieces of legislation to some other must-pass bill. he's not giving democrats a free ride here. he's giving this the opportunity to be debated and dealt with on the floor of the senate, which is the kind of thing that probably the rest of his caucus is going to be more comfortable going along with because it's the kind of thing they think they can influence along the way. on its face, clearly not enough for democrats on its own. we'll see if chuck schumer can exact other commitments from the president or the house side of the building tomorrow to make this deal look a little bit
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better for democrats, who are still getting a lot of pressure from their base not to agree to anything that doesn't include a concrete plan for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> we have a little bit of new reporting as well from alex moe. he says that i think the mie minority leader wants to give everyone a chance to chew on the deal and understand it. that's why he didn't want to have a vote tonight. it's better to have a successful vote tomorrow at noon than a failed vote tonight. it sounds like republicans are under the impression that schumer and the democrats are open to this. what is the next turn here in your view? and do we know anything from the white house where they stand on this deal? how involved they've been in the conversations? . >>reporter: i reached out to
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white house sources and no direct weighing in on what we just saw transpire. but there has been a sense that they have had an opportunity to sort of work the room over on the capital side but keeping the president at some distance. he has been clear in the outline of what he wanted and then to keep a bit of separation and allow this to be worked out by those senators who know the most about this, have the most at stake. i think garrett was right on there with the idea that if it simmers overnight, we get the light of a new day, pressure from a workday where the government is shut down. but it also allows everyone to be watching the process. if it unfolded at 1:00 in the morning, you always get the argument that they did something in the cover of darkness, even though we know these are procedures that are not so unusual for the workings of washington. i thought it was very notable that there was a restrained body language on the floor. and the language was offering a
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way forward according to the way mcconnell has this mapped out. and you didn't hear any of the recriminations or harsher language that played out earlier today where they got in possibly their last sort of partisan licks framing this shutdown in the most extreme terms for each of their bases. that part may be over now as we're getting closer to what could be a resolution. sources i have talked to have said they're still trying to work this through. it does need more time. but by having this sort of coming together on the floor this evening before everyone has sort of checked out for the night, it is possible for people to have a sense of the week will begin with the opportunity to get something done, not beginning with the most harsh and hardened positions. so a path forward might be the best we can hope for right now, giving democrats time to review this, as you pointed out, having two republicans come from no to yes is significant. and allowing it to play out on
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your end of pennsylvania avenue perhaps a little less from this end could be good for everyone's interest. certainly the white house has other business they want to get onto. and this has been defined by some as a trump shutdown, defined by others as a democratic shutdown. nobody's winning here. and so monday could be very pivotal and it might be just enough time for people to sort of settle into this and get it done. >> that does seem to be the central point. everybody up here feels very tired of this. garrett, i want to ask you quickly. we're learning that the bipartisan group of senators that were behind this or at least involved in this are going to meet tomorrow morning. >> reporter: that's right. this is the group that has been meeting in susan collins' office over the last couple of days. this is an opportunity perhaps for lindsey graham and jeff flake to try to close the deal, quite honestly, with their
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democratic colleagues. mcconnell's offer is on the table and see if that can't be good enough for the democrats in that room. we talked about some of the folks who have been part of that group. the two that come to mind are the two democrats from virginia, mark warner and tim kaine who are going to have thousands of federal employees who don't go to their jobs tomorrow when the shutdown starts. those are going to be people who are more inclined to want a way out of this. to see this group gathering again tomorrow to present some kind of united front in the hours between this meeting and the noon vote could potentially be significant. i don't think this group falls apart tomorrow at 10:00. it seems like the kind of thing to try to make sure that everybody's on the same page so when they walk on the floor tomorrow at noon there aren't a lot of surprises. >> thank you.
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i'm told we're going to go back to kelly o'donnell now. >> perhaps they've been watching our conversation. a white house source just got back to me and said this was really critical in their eyes for the flake/graham spepiece o this, they could be the voices that would help lead enough democrats along. not declaring victory, but seeing this is shaping up in a way that the white house feels good about tonight. we talked about some of the atmospherics on your end tonight. they're watching this with some relief and optimism that there is a starting point to get democrats along. they're viewing this as a positive step so far. >> kelly thank you very much for that. i really appreciate it. now i'm going to come back to rachel bade and michael steele here with us. rachel, it seems like the at least initial body language from
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democrats even watching chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell on the floor, it seemed more positive than negative. >> i think you could conceivably see a situation tomorrow where chuck schumer remains opposed to this deal but potentially more sort of centrist and moderates coming together to keep the government open. i sthink schumer could get a lo of heat from his base if he were to vote without daca. with flake and graham, they need six or seven senate democrats. that's a big chunk. they have some work to do tomorrow. >> the outlines of this agreement are pretty much to do what senator mcconnell said we were planning to do anyway. this is not a big win for democrats. i think what you're seeing with
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senator schumer is, one, he just wants to take the temperature of his members. second, he may not know exactly where his caucus is on all of this. the changes that we've seen, the anger we've seen in american politics, the radicalization of the democratic party is no small thing either. >> chuck schumer has the minor pesky problem that a significant percentage of the members of his caucus seem to be also running for president in 2020. >> are any not? >> that's a good we. we're going to leave it here for just a minute, but we're going to be back with much more on this breaking news in just a minute. when you look at the mercedes-benz glc... with its high-tech cameras and radar, contemporary cockpit, 360 degree network of driver-assist technologies and sporty performance what's most impressive about the glc? all depends on your point of view.
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welcome back. we are still live here at the russell rotunda. mitch mcconnell coming to the senate floor and putting a public pledge to come to an agreement on the senate floor if a deal is not reached by february 8th. it was followed by two republicans, lindsey graham and jeff flake saying they will support the majority leader in this. that is a switch from where they were just before this government shutdown. on the phone now we have leanne caldwell. what do you know about how this might play out over the course of the next 12 hours?
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looks like we do not have leanne. she was in theory running over e phone. i'll bring you back to you all. it seems as though if what senator schumer is doing behind the scenes is taking the temperature of his democratic caucus. we were talking about this before the break. you have factions so to speak. some have presidential ambitions. there's a contingent of liberal democrats who seem to be devoted to remaining in that role. and then you have moderates people who are frajly looking at really tough elections in trump states. they're all under different pressure. >> it's different cross currents. so many democrats in the country today believe that simply being opposed to president trump is enough to guarantee political success. if you look at the map particularly in the senate that's not the case.
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you have to run candidates who are acceptable to a much broader swath of culturely conservative in america. i hope that the active very fired up base of the party doesn't derail the chances for an agreement that brings the government back online. >> it's this opposite wing. the ultraconservative and the progressive thinking about a run for the president that make this federal government funding daca agreement all the more impossible. they feel they're being held hostage by the two wing of the pear. in reality something has to be bipartisan. both sides have to give a bit. and it's hard to get there because of the loud voices in the room. >> i have to say, one of the things that's been missing from capitol hill coverage lately. and is that i'm no longer standsing outside of rooms where there are members of both
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parties inside. it's all republicans. if the viewers sense shuffling here. we'll bring senator jeff flake onto the set in a minute. when you were here, you and i, i was harassing you. >> we spent a lot of time with the super committee. and the soup the grand bargain before that. this was more all though it didn't yield a lot of result. and i hope that we can finds a new paradigm where you can get things done. i think we have a good chance on immigration with greater pressure from the american people. and hopefully president trump. who at times endorsed a bill of love. being willing to be flexibility on more stringent border and interior enforcement requirements. >> what do we think schumer needs to hear in order to go forward from the white house? do we think that matters in the context of this? >> i find is hard to believe there's a situation that schumer
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backs a deal like this. with the promise of a vote. he would need ashurps from the white house about what an immigration bill is going to look like. and i'm not sure schumer will really believe him. after he had sit down with president trump on friday, they talked about things that a daca beel would like and president trump basically the white house said everything they talked about wasn't true. i think it's going to be a difficult position for schumer to say he backs this deal. i can see him opposing it for now and letting the moderates jump ship sdp back the government fundsing bill to reopen the government on their own. >> what are your top questions, i assume you'll be here with us tomorrow. outside of this bipartisan meeting. is this fwoing to be a conversation about what are the contours of an immigration bill? or whether or not we'll go forward with reopening the government? >> i think we're not going to know what an immigration bill is going to look like tomorrow. at all. i think first they'll try to
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reopen the government and the promise to return to regular order to put up a bunch of immigration bills on the senate floor that people can vote for, amend and vote down. that's where things are headed. the question i have does speaker paul ryan allow to happen in the house? there are house members who would be very opposed to that. because i'm sure democrats and republicans would back a immigration deal that a lot of conservatives would hate. so with mcconnell allowing this regular order to play out on the floor, the senate, will it happen in the house? i doept see it happening. but the pressure could increase on ryan to allow multiple immigration bills to come to the floor and have votes. >> as a reminder. this started with the president inviting both members to the public meeting.
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that was derailed a few days later. the negotiations fell apart and vulgar language was used. senator jeff flake is standing by. we'll stay on the air for a few more minutes. to bring you that live from the capitol. coming at you with my brand-new vlog. just making some ice in my freezer here. so check back for that follow-up vid. this is my cashew guy bruno. holler at 'em, brun. kicking it live and direct here at the fountain. should i go habanero or maui onion? should i buy a chinchilla? comment below. did i mention i save people $620 for switching? chinchilla update -- got that chinchilla after all. say what up, rocco. ♪
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very good evening to you. it's 10:00 p.m. on the east coast. we're nearing the second day of a government shut down. there's some hope on the horizon. a crucial vote now scheduled for noon tomorrow in the senate. that's what's new this hour. the result of that vote tomorrow will likely determine whether the government will reopen. senator mitch mcconnell made the announcement within the last hour on the senate floor. >> should these issues not be resolved by time the funding bill before us expires, on february 8, 2018. assuming that the government
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remains open, it would be my intention to proceed the legislation that would address daca, border security, and related issues. it is also my intention to take up legislation regarding increase defense spending, disaster relief, and other important matters. the shut down should stop today. >> now, after mcconnell's announcement. the number two republican told reporters he was optimistic about the vote happening tomorrow at noon. while chuck schumer says as of right now he went to the microphone after, no agreement has been reached. take a listen. >> i am happy to continue my discussion with the majority leader about reopening the government. we have had several conversations. talks will continue. we have yet to reach an agreement on a path forward that would be acceptable for both si
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