it may be in washington, d.c., but not out in the real country. >> and right now as you are speaking the senate voted 81-18 to end this three-day shutdown. my thanks to kimberly atkins and charlie psychs donna edwards and betsy woodward and steve schmidt. i'm noke ole wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now with katy tur in for chuck. >> congratulations on the new york times interview, it was wonderful. great to be your colleague. >> if it is monday, the shutdown is ending. but for how long? >> tonight america is opening for business once again. >> the aye's is 81, the noes are 81. >> the democrats give in ending the government shutdown but only temporarily. >> you don't do that unless you have an emergency. and this wasn't an emergency. >> now can lawmakers get past their trouble with trust and resolve the daca dilemma? >> the republican majority now has 17 days to prevent the

d.r.e.a.m.ers from being deported. >> plus is anybody home at the white house? why was president trump radio silent as lawmakers hashed out a deal? >> this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening and welcome to "mtp daily." i'm katy tur in new york in for chuck todd. it looks like the government shutdown is coming to an end. possibly in this hour, but if the battle is over, the roar is just beginning. the senate just voted to reopen the government after members from both parties reached an agreement on a three-week government funding deal earlier today. we're expecting a vote in the house soon after. but guys, right now hardliners on both sides are not happy. especially on the left. even if moderates on both sides are. >> the president's leadership is once again being questioned.

despite what the white house is trying to spin. and both parties are still as divided as ever on one of the hardest issues they could face. immigration. so who blinked first? democrats wanted a deal on daca. but all they got was a promise for a vote soon on a bill that might be dead on arrival in the house. they said they didn't want to pay for a border wall. but it sounds like they immigration hardliners will get the billions they are asking for. guys, that is why the democratic base is clearly worried they are getting played. this house member told bloomberg that senate democrats caved. they blinked. that is what they do. another said an aide told nbc news, quote, we caved. we lost. we shouldn't try to spin it as a win for immigrants. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi and her second in chand steny hoyer say they'll vote no on the bill when it is to their chamber. plus the white house, which was quick to point the finger at

democrats, even while the president was negotiating with schumer, is clearly considering it a win. >> i am pleased that democrats in congress have come to their senses, democrats realize that the position that they had taken frankly was indefensible. the president and republicans stayed firm and democrats realized that they had to move past that piece of legislation and so that they could focus on the conversation they are desperate to have. >> but guess who was not at the negotiating table? the art of the deal president. president trump skipped a high price gala at mar-a-largo over the weekend to stay in washington. but other than a few staged photos of him around the west wing, he hasn't been seen. the white house did say that the president lunched with some of the senate republican hardliners on immigration today. and a white house official tells nbc news that joe mansion of west virginia and doug jones of alabama met with the president to discuss immigration this afternoon. that meeting happened after the

deal was struck to reopen the government. today right after democrats and republicans announced a break in the stalemate, chuck schumer said he hadn't spoken to the president since their meeting on friday. >> the reason the republican majority had such difficulty finding consensus is they could never get a firm grip on the what the president of their party wanted to do. >> the great deal-making president sat on the side lines. >> and so far no tweets from the president either. so which side bored the brunt of this shutdown? did democrats cave? or was the president's lack of leadership exposed? let's check with my colleague on capitol hill, garrett haake. good to see you. what is the latest? where is this bill going now? >> well at some point it will come across the hallway to where i'm standing outside of the house of representatives chamber. but that door is still locked up tight. so i don't think we'll have the final resolution of this in this hour. but it does look like it will be

resolved tonight. and as to the president staying out of the debate up to this point, we saw him jump back into it today, meeting with that group of hardliner republicans on immigration and then meeting with two much more moderate democrats, joe mansion and the newly elected doug jones of alabama. the president likes to meet with people who he likes on these issues and we're seeing that happen here. as to how effective the shutdown was for democrats, it might take us probably until the end of this three-week continuing resolution to get an answer to that. democrats learned the limits of being the minority party in both chambers and not having the white house. they weren't able to force a new piece of legislation out of this, they weren't able to force a new position from the white house. or from the house of representatives. but what they got in the senate and what they are spinning it as is a promise from mitch mcconnell to deal with the immigration issue forth rightly and it is interesting to hear the evolution of the language over the course of the day.

really from last night when mitch mcconnell on the floor talked about it being his intention to deal with immigration, daca, border security and then hearing democrats in the afternoon say they got a promise, a pledge, a commitment from mitch mcconnell. they are going to try to hold him to this. and they're going to use some of the republican allies who came to their aid in that bipartisan group that met all weekend like lindsey graham, susan collins, jeff flake to help them try to hold mitch mcconnell to this. but in terms of a solution to daca that democrat are going to like, we're along way from seeing that. what we'll see is a robust fight over immigration over the next three weeks. >> is anybody listening to the progressive voices out there who are saying that the democrats got hosed in this? that they should not have caved and mitch mcconnell and the president are about to get everything they want. >> reporter: absolutely. there were i think 17 or 18 democrats who did still vote no on this deal.

and the list of names are the list of big named progressives, a lot of the folks who get whispered or spoken loudly about as possibly running for president. so you see the folks on the left side of the caucus like cory booker, kirsten gillibrand and elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, these are all folks who voted no on the deal for different reasons. some of them saying they just don't like the idea of another continuing resolution. some saying look this doesn't address the core problem which is providing protection for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. but republicans i think were probably not ever going to do this in a legislative way while the government was closed. they didn't want to encourage this kind of behavior from democrats. but again, now we'll see this open fight on the senate floor and that is where this is going to go down over the next couple of weeks. >> garrett haake, appreciate it. thanks for your time. and joining me su democratic senate mazy herona.

>> hi. >> do you think the democrats caved? >> no. there is some battles worth fighting and fighting for the d.r.e.a.m.ers and for funding for children's health, for community health centers and parody between defense and nondefense spending is a battle worth fighting and the war is not over. and so come february 8th we all herd mitch mcconnell say we're going to deal with debates but during the battle i want to make sure that we keep daca protections front and center. >> correct me if i'm wrong, you rote voet -- voted against the c.r. >> that is right. >> and if they didn't cave, why did you vote for it. >> i don't view it as caving. because the battle is not over. i voted against this c.r. because i've been consistent in my position that i would vote against any c.r. that did not address daca, that didn't fund

children's health, community health center and did not provi provide parity. and at the same time we'll hold mitch to his promise and i think he will hold to it because he has a significant number of people in his own caucus, i think don't he gives much concern to our caucus, the moderates, but i think he is concerned about the moderates in his caucus who went to him and said let's get on with it. let's -- let the senate act the senate and i hope what they're saying is we shouldn't wait around fror the -- for the president to tell us what to do because he can't make up his mind about anything and i would prefer that the president stay out of it and let the senate be the senate. we should get on it and have the battle over daca and immigration reform which i support and we shall see what side people are on. >> the democrats have gotten out of this deal to stop the

government shutdown. there is no daca deal on the table. there is only a promise from mitch mcconnell. there is no similar or any promise whatsoever from paul ryan in the house to take up any sort of bill to talk about immigration. you have senate schumer giving donald trump a commitment to fund the wall. that is a pretty major concession. and now the democratic caucus is divided in a way that it was not just a week ago. >> i don't think our caucus is divided in -- in that we want to get to protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. we're not divided on that. the battle is not over. and sometimes you have to change your tactics. i can live with that even as i voted against this continuing resolution. for the reasons that i articulated. but i am very much looking forward, shall we say, to what will probably be a defining debate over immigration reform in our country and whether or

not all of these republicans who keep saying, including the president, who keep saying we want to protect the daca participants, let's see what their actions really will be. >> you almost interrupted me when i was talking about senator schumer giving the money for the wall to the president. is that -- has that changed? >> oh, of course. the wall is no longer something that -- chuck schumer was willing to put the wall on the table. if we got a full daca and full d.r.e.a.m.ers and that is not happening. so that is off the table. >> what if you -- what if there is an offer for daca before you it has to go back on the table. is the wall funding back on the table at some point. >> i think we'll have a full-throated debate on daca and possibly on a lot of other as pecks of comprehensive immigration reform. and i know where i'm coming from, that we need to keep our focus on the urgency of taking care of the daca d.r.e.a.m.ers

and also comprehensive immigration reform that maintains family unity as a guiding principle, because that is what our country was founded on. and i speak from personal experience as an immigrant myself. >> but do you think that if the negotiation continues again, and daca is offered. that there should be funding for the wall included. is that a fair tradeoff. >> i think there are a lot of republicans who don't think that spending $18 billion plus on a wall is quite the way to go. and so we'll see. i hope that calmer heads will prevail. i realize that if the president keeps talking about wanting a wall and then he talks about maybe it won't be continuous, et cetera, then we -- we shall see. but i'm very focused on protecting d.r.e.a.m.ers and giving them a path to citizenship. i think that is first and foremost what i'm going to be looking for as we negotiate come february 8th. >> well there is three weeks until february 8th. a lot of negotiating yet to happen. this is an issue that has torn

apart congress now for many years. it is one of the ones you most vehemently disagree with each other on. why -- or just say if you are not able to come to an agreement on february 8th, is there a consideration to shut down the government again? >> well, i am hopeful that there is a group of moderates -- it is not all the hard-line immigration people such as tom cotton who represent the entire republican side. i'm hopeful that the moderates will say, look, let's go forward and we actually passed comprehensive immigration reform in a bipartisan way in 2013. and i was very involved in that effort. so let's hope the senate acts like the senate and not wait around for the president to provide the guidance that does not come. >> and the senate could act like the senate but is there concern about the house. >> first things first. i'll accept the senate acting like the senate first off and then we need to convince our colleagues in the house that

they should move forward in a humane, just way with regard to daca and come p-- comprehensive immigration reform. >> but is it any sense in making a deal when we don't have a promise from paul ryan. >> if you are not setting the agenda, you have to fight the battle worth fighting and this is a battle worth fighting because which side are you on. so that is going to come to the fore, and i understand the disappointment of the d.r.e.a.m.ers, but we're not done yet. and they need to keep advocating and clearly they need to go visit everybody in the house to make sure that we get the support that we need in the house for what i hope will emerge from the senate in a bipartisan way come february 8th. >> so one last time. will you shut down the government again if there is no deal on daca. >> let's hope we don't go down

the same path and with the same result. >> but there is a possibility that it is not going to happen by february 8th. all of the signs seem to point to that considering what we've seen in the past in terms of immigration debates. the government is about to reopen and it was already shut down for a few days. will you consider shutting it down on february 8th if there is no deal for daca. >> i think that once daca sadly is off the table in terms of a complete package, then we'll move forward with what i hope is a longer term appropriations so that our government can run for longer than three weeks or one month at a time. and that there will be consensus around funding children's health as well as community health centers and i think those discussions will bear fruit. at the same time, it is very clear that the republicans did not want to deal with daca and immigration and in any kind of a full way and therefore we are where we are. but we're going to do our best. i'm certainly going to do my

very best to go forward and so what i'm saying, katy, is the same factors that led to a government shutdown will probably not be there this time around and therefore we're all going to move forward and fight the battles that we need to fight. >> we will see. senate hirona. thank you for your time. >> thank you. and let's hear from the other side. joining me is virginia republican congressman tom garrett. thank you very much for being here. we appreciate your time, sir. >> katy, thanks for the opportunity. what is going on with the president? is he leading on this? has he been involved in the negotiations to reopen the government? >> oh, i think so. i mean, there is an argument that he's just surrendered to the flow but i don't think that happened at all. now at some point you have to understand that this -- that we have to get out of this maze that was created by the senate and by senator church's histrionic fit that demanded a shutdown. so if there is a silver lining it is that the united states public got a civics lesson on what a filibuster is and how a

minority could stop everything if they want to. >> could you make the argument that the president was just taking care of his own shoes and not taking care of shoes of the republican party when he disappeared over the weekend and didn't offer any leadership and didn't say what he wanted out of this immigration debate, didn't say what his demands were for the counter-terrori-- to the c. make a call to a democrat. >> you could say that in a hazy world, we don't know what is going on behind the scenes as it related to the president's contact with leadership in the senate. i think -- again, look, this is not -- you can say it is a schumer shutdown or a trump shutdown, i think when you announce the shutdown is going to end before the votes been held and you admitted it was your shutdown which senator schumer did, and i think he was afraid that they have the reigns and if they don't do something we will and that is your nuclear option so i think the president was considering those thing. >> and you have to admit there

is a rift when it comes to immigration and you got a promise to take this up on the senate floor but no promise made by paul ryan. should there be a promise to take up the issue of dreamers and to debate immigration. >> well i think you got to go there. i mean, but honestly with hyperbole intended, for senator shum tore declare a victory because the senate will act on daca it is saying we won because they promised a week from now it is monday again. what we know is that there is a desire on both sides of the aisle to address the real in the question of 800,000 young people. to address daca and having said that, there is hyperbolic headlines that say in the l.a. times, deportation surges under trump and if you read the story, they pointed out the 4-people deported were found guilty of criminal offenses or gang activity. i want to help people brought here at two or three but not people engaging in criminal

activity. and the other thing is i think we were asked to prioritize the people ahead of 9 million children as it related to c.h.i.p. in my state 60,000 kids and mothers and the arms services and the long-term answer to daca is a secure southern border so we can control immigration which i support, so long as we're bringing people in that will help this country like [ inaudible ]. >> i'm not so sure why you can't have a clean daca vote. if you are a d.r.e.a.m.er and broken the law, you are no longer protected under the rules. >> right, exactly. >> so but you are saying it is coming before c.h.i.p. and before funding -- the military but it doesn't have. to you could do all of these things at at same time. >> and thank you for being candid and even candid in your reporting but the deadline for c.h.i.p. has pasted, the deadline to support our troops is past and the deadline in daca it in march. and we do it like a high school

kid does a term paper pushed to the last minute. but really and truly, the clock has run out on c.h.i.p. the clock has run out on a budget. we have until march to do something on daca. if senator schumer were to have done the same thing in march, i would have a little bit more sympathy because that is the date that the president said. so, yes, but there is discussion. i want to secure that southern border and then address the reality of young people brought here as children. we did this in the 80s and the this and then that and it didn't work and which is why we find ourselves here again. let's do it different this time. >> and let's talk about the immigration ad released by the campaign for the president. take a look at it. >> democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. president trump will fix our border and keep our families safe. >> the white house is bouncing around the room in terms of who is responsible for this ad. you have mark short talking to

chuck todd saying this wasn't a white house ad even though it was paid for by donald j. trump. do you agree it is a good idea to say that the democrats will be complicit if there is more crimes being committed by an undocumented immigrant or illegal immigrant. >> no, katy. look, i support the bulk of what this president has done. but i am frustrated as coy be with the message -- as coy be with the messaging. we need to tone down the rhetoric. and we need to have them saying we'll fight them in the street and the sitting vice president saying they will put you back in chains and if i'm willing to criticize former vice president, i could criticize the president if he is responsible for that. let's tone it down. there are people who i don't agree with who don't agree with me who i get along very well with. that is what america is supposed to be. so if he is responsible for that, i think you ought to change the tone of the rhetoric and it may win in the short-term, but it is bad for

america in the long-term. >> with all due respect, congressman, how in the world will you tone down the rhetoric when the president himself is no fan of toning anything down. >> well, look, ultimately in life there are things we control and those things that we don't control and the things that we can influence and by saying on your program that i'd like to see a change in the messaging, it is only continuing to message that i'd like to see a change in the messaging. but we do need to secure our border. look, there are wonderful people who came here as immigrants for sure. but that doesn't mean some bad people didn't come here illegally too and so we should work toward a reasonable solution without sort of casting our idealogical opponents an evil that threatens all of humanity. that is not who we are in a nation. and you've been even handed in this report and i'm pretty partisan but i don't need to be mean. >> congressman, it is great tangling with you and bouncing

around the room, if you let me use that again. appreciate your time. >> outstanding, katie, thanks for the opportunity. and much more on the breaking news. the house prepares to vote to end the government shutdown right after the break. ♪ jen, i've got questions. boots or flip-flops? boot! great. smokey or natural eye? ugh, natural. good choice. how about calling or texting? definitely calling. puppies or kitties? sorry, cats. dry eyes or artificial tears? wait, that's a trick question. because they can both get in your way. that's why it is super-important to chat with your eye doctor if you're using artificial tears a lot and your eyes still feel dry. next question. guys, it's time for some eyelove! i'm the one clocking in when you're clocking out. sensing and automatically adjusting to your every move. does your bed do that? i'm the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let's meet at a sleep number store. discover card. i justis this for real?match, yep. we match all the cash back new cardmembers earn at the end of their first year,

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breitbart surrender, democrats get nothing. move on.org. and terrible deal. and senates democrats crave. provide votes based on mccobble's empty promise. that is harsh when the two groups agree. >> the democratic base doesn't trust mitch mcconnell and why would they. i just have to throw out the name merit garland for democrats to remember that mitch mcconnell is not someone who should be trusted on making future promises to do something. and so i think that in this particular case democrats had the leverage and they did cave. but i think that democrats who are upset with the decision today should spend the next week organizing to be sure on february 8th they have the momentum behind the elected democrats in terms of the support of activists and supporters so that democrats don't cave. >> but isn't the reality of the shutdown was not going to remain popular and the democrats were very clearly worried about how it would affect not only their chances in 2018 but especially

the senates who were coming from red states. >> exactly. there is a lot of chaos and a lot of unprecedented things that happened in this administration. but there is a political reality that remains. which is you need 60 votes to proceed with any legislation. republicans have 51. so they -- they are in control of congress but not complete control of the senate. and they were able to put kind of a wedge between the democrats two wanted to stick on the ground and shut the government down, to fund daca if it meant shutting the government down and the others that you just mentioned who are going to be in the states running for-- for re-election in states that trump won trying to make the case to their voters, i'm a deal maker too and i could work with republicans in congress just as well as democrats. so they were put in a big position here. i think the democratic party is going through something now which is -- they have a very rustive, active base that they want to mobilize in the elections. they also know that that base isn't necessarily going to

support the realities at hand which is that you have limited leverage when you are in the minority. >> progressives are up in arms already, many of them, how do you convince progressives, is there a way to convince progressives they should trust moip when he said he will do something. >> i don't know if you could trust mitch mcconnell, but you could look at the results of the shutdown and say, boy, did this not work out the way we thought it would work out. that reminds me a lot of 2013. where you had a simpatico mind meld between the activist class on the right, a very rekalsity rant and they come together and say this -- it won't work out. and i would be surprised to see whether or not this sort of dynamic disappears. we're entering into an election year. there is an obviously a lot of auditions going on for those vying for the presidency in

2020. they have every incentive to climb up the pole and not back down and get the democratic caucus into a cul-de-sac because it advanced their pros pecks. it did well for republicans who did the same -- pursued the same strategy in 2013. >> let's be real. very little sticks from day-to-day, let alone week to week orri -- or even month to month. we have months to go before anybody casts a ballot and until three weeks before this is debated again and if daca is not settled, democrats are going to be able to use that as a campaign wedge issue. >> absolutely. and latinos are a very big voting block. and the congressman earlier said, we're not in a rush because the deadline is not until march. well i have to tell them something. 120 people are losing their daca status every single day since september. and so people who are in school and enrolled in school don't know if they are able to sign up for the next semester and they are paying tuition and taxes. this is a real human problem. and i think we're for getting in a when we talk only about the political calculation which is

part of the conversation as it always is. but i think we can't forget there is real human cost to delaying voting on a clean daca. >> no. there is also the bigger question of what in the world this president would support. whether he wants any sort of deal on daca or if he is more likely to support the hard-line issues that his white house might come up with. we'll talk about that in a little bit and where in the world donald trump was this weekend. >> he's taking photos -- >> he was taking photos with the white hat. stay with us. ahead, does a bipartisan deal on immigration really have a chance? and do we even know, again, what the president wants? friends, colleagues, gathered here are the world's finest insurance experts. rodney -- mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on. how about a discount for long lists? gold. mara, you save our customers hundreds for switching almost effortlessly. it's a gift. and jamie. -present. -together we are unstoppable. so, what are we gonna do?

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welcome back. we're still following the latest developments on capitol hill. and on a day that tartstarted w the federal government closed and the house has come to a vote now. let's bring in republican congressman charlie departmennt. thank you for being here. so should the republicans demand that paul ryan do what mitch mcconnell did, which was promise that there would be a debate on immigration, debate on daca? >> well there will have to be. it is wonderful that this pointless shutdown ended. there was no reason for this. to get off the treadmill of this we won't get an agreement until there is a resolution on the daca border security issue.

so at the end of the day the senate will have to pass a bipartisan daca bill with over 60 votes an this will come to the house and they will have to take it up or something similar to it. even if that means a majority of the majority of house of republicans may not vote for. it we'll have to take it up. i would recommend to the leadership, which i already have, that we maybe adopt a queen of the hill strategy. whichever bill gets the most votes is the one that passes. and that would be a bipartisan bill. >> so waive the hastert rule and bring it to the floor and even if a majority of the majority doesn't support it. >> correct. and there is no such thing as the has ert rule. it is a guideline. and we talk about the rule and insist on the implementation until we don't. and i've been hart of many house majorities that pass bills on budget agreements, omnibus, debt ceiling, hurricane relief where we did not have a majority of the majority. so this is nothing new. so we have to take this on and deal with it once and for all

sooner rather than later. >> give me a sense of what paul ryan wants to do. the republican conference in the house is pretty divided on immigration. you have hardliners and in the freedom caucus who don't want to see any sort of deal on immigration that allows anybody to stay here. how do you get the republicans on the same page enough to have an honest conversation and honest debate to lead to a resolution for 800,000 people brought here because their parents came over without their choice and are now awaiting someone to decide on what will happen to them in the future. >> well, katy, first we have to move beyond this idea that there will be a republican only daca bill getting passed the house with 218 republican votes. that isn't going to happen. even if it did, it will not pass the senate. so to what end, so we have to move off of that position at some point and get serious about

the negotiation. we have at least three or four bills. there is the herd and aguilar and the graham and durbin an the problem solvers proposal. any one of the proposals are completely acceptable and would secure at least 218 votes, probably closer to 300 votes on house floor. so the pressure certainly will be on our house leadership, and republican leadership to take up a bill. i don't see how we can resist -- how the house republican leadership could resist a strong daca bill with a big bipartisan vote if the senate. >> the senate might go their on way on this and not worry about what the president wan -- wants or does not want but how much does the house need a guiding hand from donald trump? >> well certainly if the president endorsed this proposal, that would help matters considerably. and drive up the vote tally. but we should take this up regardless of where the president is. we're not sure where the president is and i say let's send them a bill and they could decide. from the political standpoint, it is more important from the house leadership to protect

vulnerable members in swing districts who need the vote for a responsible humane daca proposal. i'm less concerned about protecting the president's political sensitives, i'm concerned about the republicans in marginal seats like kaufman in colorado and members in california and florida, carlos cab ello and others who believe in this issue and frankly they need to do the vote -- the right thing to do and would help them politically. i'm more concerned about them than the president. >> you say you don't know where the president stands on this issue, the white house has been asked this over and over again, where does he stand on the issue and what about the republicans who say they don't know, you are one of them. mitch mcconnell is another. the white house said that there are four principles that the president has demanded all along. there is ending chain migration and the visa lottery program, funding for the border wall and that will enable him to say yes to something like daca. is that what the white house wants or do you see some ax b-- some ambiguitity there. >> the principles are fine but at the end of the day we vote on

legislation and not principles. but we're talking about operational control of the border and border security. and again as republicans an democrats will acknowledge the problems with the visa lottery and the family migration so those four principles are fine, but again it comes down to legislation. there will be bills on floor of the senate and hopefully the house and that is what we need to hear from the white house on. what specific legislation are they willing to support. we can talk principles until we are blue in the face but we don't vote on the principles. there are a lot of folks in the republican party in the house who are not going to move forward with this unless they get urged by the president. there are folks that have no desire to do this. so how do you, a moderate and to your fellow moderates in the house, democrats and republicans, find a way to force the issue if a majority doesn't have the appetite for it and paul ryan is getting pressure from some someone -- someone in

the freedom caucus. >> there will be a number of us who represent the swing and marginal districts who will insist we take this up. we won't be able to escape this debate and the way out and i suggested it again to leadership -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> hold on. >> put it all out there. >> but hold on. why is that not true up until now. why would that be true in the next three weeks an not true for the last three months? >> well, because we have a deadline of march 5th. >> you had also had a deadline on friday and that didn't work. >> well, the shutdown was pointless. it was absurd. we all all understand that. the point is that we -- well, look, this agreement that mitch mcconnell has struck with senator schumer, we should honor it and i think our leadership will be under pressure to act from the american public and from house republican members who do want to vote for this responsible, humane daca

d.r.e.a.m.er bill. we want to do this and i'm prepared -- and we have to marginalize those on the hard right who aren't prepared to vote for anything. let's face it. some of the members won't vote for a bill no matter what is in it. and we have to -- we have to -- we just have to blank out that noise. this is the democrats have to -- they have to just put aside the noise they are getting from their base right now and because they are going to be called surrendered and capitulators. and deal with it and put the noise out and the center will have to drive this debate because we may lose some on the left and the far right. >> congressman, always good to have you. >> great to be with you again. go eagles. >> go eagles. much more on the vote to end the government shutdown coming up. i don't like football. can i admit that? s dog. and this is frank's record shop. frank knowns northern soul, but how to set up a limited liability company... what's that mean? not so much. so he turned to his friends at legalzoom. yup! they hooked me up.

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welcome back. can democrats turn anger from the base into action at the polls? as president trump marked his first year in office this weekend, demonstrators flooded streets across the globe for the second year of women's marches. >> the message is really simple.

enough is enough. >> i'm in support of women who i think are on the forefront of changing what is happening in washington. >> last year people were depressed. this year there is more hope and there is more action. >> if the current administration did anything, it woke people up. >> we got to stand up. >> we're not stopping. and november 6th, 2018, i think they're going to get a good dose of we're not stopping. >> the question here, what does this mean for 2018? and in the midst of a shutdown no less. that is ahead. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember.

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talk to, he disappeared. but that may have been the key to move some blocks around capitol hill. >> the key is to keep the president out of negotiations? >> i'm not sure whether you're negotiating directly with him or whether the key players are miller. when he gets involved he seems to muddy the waters more than clarify. >> are you saying the president is not a good negotiator? >> i'm saying he's not the last word no tin the administra. >> where does donald trump stand on this issue, though, and that's a debate that a lot of folks are having, democrats are having it, republicans are having it, i'm having a hard time believing that donald trump is a moderate who wants to come out and make a deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers. this is a man who ran for office saying mexico was sending

rapists over the border. he campaigned on building a wall. and those were the loudest roars he got from the crowd, building a wall and putting hillary clinton in prison. here's the thing. he loves the roar of the crowd. who is to say that this is steven miller or john kelly or the hardliners in his administration convincing him of this. maybe that's just where he stands. >> i thought that the ad that you played earlier in the show, it reminds me of the ads we saw early in the campaign. and the bipartisan trump, i'll sign anything, i want to build a wall with love. you have a situation where republicans are thinking, we control all of congress here, why shouldn't we push this president, who campaigned on hard-line immigration policies to put forth a hard-line immigration proposal. the fact that we got through this government funding issue

today only to revisit this later, immigration is something that has bedeviled this congress for a long time. remember, we had bipartisan support for a comprehensive immigration bill that didn't even make it to the house. they didn't even take it up. and when you have a president like trump, and you don't know where he's going to be and if he's going to support you, are you going to go out on a limb and support something like this. >> just for our viewers, the house is voting now on the end to the government shutdown. that's what you're seeing on the other half of your screen. how do you make sense of president trump sitting in a bipartisan meeting a couple weeks from now, looking at dianne feinstein saying yes, we can do a clean bill on d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> that's what happens when the president doesn't understand policy. >> do you think he's listening? is he listening to the conversation being had? >> no, i just think he disagrees with hover whoever is speaking

hech him, and he doesn't understand the nuance of the policy. he wants to be liked by the people he's dealing with. it was a response to michael wolff's book that he is unfit, that was them saying the president is engaged. he can lead a meeting. but what it really demonstrated is that he doesn't know anything about the policy he's talking about. and when you don't understand the details of the policy, it's a weak negotiating position, that's why you saw him agree to two deals and john kelly had to say wait, wait, wait, that's not what we agreed. you don't want a president that's completely irrelevant in the negotiating province. >> charlie dent a moment ago, they were saying that they've got to find a way to ignore the fringes, ignore the hardliners on both sides, ignore a good portion of the republican party who has no desire to make any sort of deal on immigration. what does that say? >> well, particularly when it

comes to daca, and daca is not d.r.e.a.m.ers. they're two different populations. d.r.e.a.m.ers are much bigger, dacasa smaller. th most people, including the majority of republicans and trump voters want to see a pathway to at least legal status for these daca recipients. they don't want to see them back in the shadows. even the department of homeland security is saying we don't want to deport these people. when it comes to the broader illegal immigration population, there's no appetite for that. >> but is there an appetite to bring it up in the house if the president's not on board with it? or does that give enough cover to paul ryan? >> the president will be on board with it, if it's popular. i think that's what weave he 'v come to terms on. >> i am not so sure about that. >> it's part of the reason

never-trump republicans were saying, look, this guy's playing you for a fool. we want you to be citizens >> but he went to c pac. this is a man who started off by running and saying we need to build a wall and keep mexicans out. that's essentially what he was saying, they're bringing rapists over the border. i'm completely out of time. they are yelling at me in my ear. thank you guys very much for being here. we'll be right back.

that's all for tonight, chuck will be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." everyone's doing these handoffs about football today, and i don't like football, so i'm just going to smile and nod politely until we have baseball back on the tv. >> i prefer baseball as well, but i'm not a big sports person to again with. >> i do like the story about the philly cops racing the poles. >> it is 6:00 p.m. in washington, and you are looking at it. the federal government is winding down the first day of this 2018 shutdown, and it may be the last day of the shutdown. what you see now is the houseworking to mahouse, working to make it official, to end the shutdown. and that's thank to a