talk to robert mueller under oath. >> are you going to talk to mueller? >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. >> so you're going to do it under oath? >> say it? >> to reach a higher standard, you would do it under oath? >> i would do it under oath, absolutely. >> coming up, we'll talk to the top democrat on intelligence adam schiff on what that means. and aly raisman speaks out on the "today" show exclusively telling hoda kotb she has not heard from usa gymnastics after larry nassar was given a life sentence after abugz youse on y girls. >> have you been contacted by usa gymnastics? >> no, nothing. >> not after what happened? >> nothing. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president trump, the anti-globalist disrupter is

trying to take over the world's elite traveling with an entourage of cabinet secretaries at the expense of the swiss ski resort. after climate change and making an entrance, he's trying to make nice to his critics. >> some of us have had a really great relationship. although some people don't necessarily believe that, but i can tell you that i have a tremendous respect for the prime minister and the job she's doing. and i think the feeling is mutual from the standpoint of liking each other a lot. >> joining me now is msnbc's ali velshi with a busy day already in davos. ali, this meeting with theresa may with disagreements, she still has an interest in trade deals with the u.s. because of brexit. she needs us, but there have been so many tensions between the u.s. and its partner in the so-called special relationship.

i'm so sorry, we are going right back to ali. obviously a big switch-over there bringing in our panel. the former u.s. ambassador to nato and victoria newlan and nick burns, former ambassador to nato and former ambassador of state to political affairs. veteran diplomats, it is great to have you here today. let's talk about the improbable sight of donald trump, the anti-globalist, so-called populist, coming into davos. the first president to be there since bill clinton from 18 years ago and bringing in just about every cabinet secretary except the sort of black sheep, jeff sessions. victoria, for you, what can he establish here? >> well, it's interesting, andrea, that he's going on this charm offensive. because he needs to put a little charm out there in the world. because the world is starting to move on without the united states. we also have the announcement

earlier today that these 11 countries in the pacific are going forward with a trade agreement without the united states. he has begun to put in place some trade barriers. so if the president is going to davos to say help make america great again, invest here, he's got to start by rebuilding trust with the world. >> and ali velshi, sorry about that. we have you hooked up now, i believe. i know i've been seeing you run all over the place in davos today and obviously during your show as well. let's talk about the fact that he keeps complaining about the trade deficits but all of his administration's economic policies undermine any effort to narrow that trade deficit in terms of his fiscal policies. >> reporter: right. so first of all, i'm not 100% sure that sometimes the president's clear on the distinction between budget deficits and trade deficits. >> that's kind. you're being very generous there. >> reporter: right. so -- but fundamentally, you know, the united states has

these trade relationships because they want things from other countries. i was speaking to the ceo of the nissan mitsubishi group this morning, and he said they have been involved in a lot of trade negotiations. countries don't tend to think when they walk out of a deal they made with the united states that they got the better of them. the fact is because america is the 800-pound gorilla. they get that. the issue that i think the president and the administration might be trying to make, although it's not been done articulately, is when the trade deals work the way they were meant to work, you end up with a whole lot of people out of work in occyour country and they are trying to figure out what to do with that. that's not suggesting that trade deals are wrong. it means when you make trade deals, you have to account for some industries and people put out of work. that's a sophisticated discussion that involves looking inward and not at your own policies, your own fiscal policies and social policies and not blaming the rest of the world. so the president is having trouble with this. on one hand, he's talking about making better deals and more deals with everyone. and on the other side, he's

talking about this america first notion. if you go far enough and deep enough down, sure, countries have to take care of their own in order to be good trading partners, but that's not a message getting out there clearly. it is davos full of corporate leaders, business leaders, they want to make deals with america as much as your last guest is right that people are working around it, people like justin trudeau are looking like globalists and leaders here. in the end, no one is really going to deliberately leave the united states out. so it may not turn out to be all that damaging for president trump. >> and what about the treasury secretary steve mnuchin first of all claiming davos is not a collection of the elites. and then talking about the dollar in a way that previous treasury secretaries never have. >> reporter: no. i'll take the second one first. the business of talking down the dollar, there are really good reasons why you might want a currency to be lower against other currentties, particularly if you are trying to push exports and goods and services

out. and the u.s. dollar has actually been weakening against other currencie currencies, but that's a whole different thing from talking about it and suggesting government policy. which is why treasury secretaries stay away from this nuance discussion. treasury secretary mnuchin said maybe we are okay with a weaker dollar and the dollar is weaker in a big way than it was yesterday. one has to be careful about using comments to set market policy. as for this not being the elite, he's right. it's the elite of the elite, the top 1% of the 1%. there are activists and philanthropists here who are trying to make deals with those people. and the thinking is that if i've got some global cause that i want to fix, these are the people who can help me fix it. they can influence the outcome. so there are a bunch of people here who are not the elite. there are a lot of journalists here. and there are about 12 of us who don't have you are a own helicopters. >> we'll get you a helicopter. ali velshi, thank you so much. nick burns, as someone who has been a diplomat for so many years watching this from both

inside and outside, what can you do? he's gone against europe and the rest of the world on climate change, letting china take the lead on all kinds of solar development. he's gone against the rest of the world on tpp. and now slapping tariffs on china and letting the asians create their own global market excluding us, or trying to exclude us. he's against the rest of the world against refugees and migration. how does he march in and have a successful meeting? >> i think the president is going to double down on america first in his big speech tomorrow, for the reasons you suggested. he's the weakest american president towards europe and tori and i spent a lot of time in europe the last few decades of any we have had in the post world war ii era. he treats the eu like an economic partner, not a partner of the united states. no tpp, no free trade to europe. he mesa -- may say no to nafta.

i have business confidence right now in my deregulation. i'm doing great. why don't you em layou late wha i'm doing. >> when he projects he's going to get a deal, tori and nick, wilbur ross is saying, we're going to get a deal. that's not what the mexicans were just saying. i was in vancouver with secretary tillerson last week, they are on the brink of a complete collapse of what the u.s. claims is going to be a renegotiation. >> well, the thing about nafta is we have an existing deal. there are two choices for the united states. we convince our partners to modernize the deal in a way that is good for us but also good for them. or we break out of the deal. so the question is whether the administration has put on the table some win/win solutions. you can't just say our way or the highway because the other alternative will be, we don't need any deal. and that will hurt u.s. business as much as anybody else. >> the other bilateral meeting

he had today was with netanyahu. i came from israel the day before yesterday or yesterday morning, in fact, and the fact is israel, netanyahu is riding high because he has what he wanted. middle east peace negotiations, both of you know that getting jerusalem at the capital unilaterally and excluding the palestinians is a win/win for netanyahu. he didn't have to give anything up for that. >> no question about it. every american president since harry truman decided not to give that concession. it was not the right time. we have never had an end game in the negotiations. and then for the president not to get anything in return from the israelis kind of shocking from the diplomatic point of view. i think for that meeting with the prime minister of israel, they are both, they both have to be worried about syria. you have a situation where two nato allies are in essence facing off in northern syria, turkey and the united states. so the president needs to fix that. the israelis are concerned that hezbollah and the iranian

revolutionary guards are on the ground close to the israeli borders. seer georgyria is a mess that hn put back together again. that's what the president should be doing at davos. >> the president called erdogan, or they spoke yesterday. the white house put out a statement that he was fairly tough and arguing that erdogan should pull back and deescalate. the turks or erdogan's people put out a statement saying that never happened, he never criticized us. so they can't agree what they talked about in their read-outs. i want to bring in jean, the former national adviser to presidents clinton and obama. gene, does the president have an argument here that he is deregulating, that the business world is happy with him and he can come in triumphantly to davos despite rejecting free trade and climate change and any agreements on refugees and migration? >> well, i think there's no question the president is going to come here and be triumphant.

and i think, listen, i think i would not give him nearly as much credit as he's going to give himself, but the u.s. economy is improving. the global economy looks relatively solid now. so it certainly is better than january that one has had, for example, in 2009 and other years. and i think, you know, i think what people want to hear is a responsible message. you know, i support strengthening nafta. i support getting tough on china. these are positive things that they have done right in a way that makes clear we're a responsible global leader that we want everyone to play by the rules. when you position everything as my way or the highway or zero sub games, then you end up being divisive and put yourself in a very difficult position. because you're trying to appeal politically to create an expectation politically to your base voters perhaps, but you're

not looking really realistically at what is going top strengthen jobs, going to strength wages. there are ways to improve nafta and china that would do that. and there are ways to be bombastic and simply blow things up. and make a political statement but will not actually help people's lives. and my last point is, the president's doing nothing in terms of the things that really matter to workers at home, such as helping them with training, helping them with their pensions, with their health care. this tax cut was very much a windfall to the largest companies and really leaves workers and their concerns and their anxieties completely out in the cold. >> and quickly, gene, what about his anti-immigration stance? because you've got republican governors and senators from agricultural states and other states worried about, they need farm labor and other corporate officials concerned that we're not going to get the high-tech

immigrants. the other talent that we need for our own workforce with such low unemployment. >> well, i think there's a few issues. number one, you know, we should be making our first focus about training and educating our workers. and again, we are one of the weakest countries doing that. and the republican party has never really come to the table to work on those issues. that said, we do need to have responsible immigration. and i think you can do that, i think it would be better if you did a combine effort to upgrade american workers and help american workers. and i think just taking this hard line, not really looking at the economics, but just again kind of appealing to a kind of sound bite populism is not very helpful. and i think the worst is, the divisiveness. you know, one thing i did hear, andrea, is some of the people who were less positive were people in the travel and tourism industry who feel that these

very negative anti-immigration policies have been divisive enough that they have discouraged some people from traveling to the united states, vacationing to the united states. and that means there are jobs that are not being created here in a strong economy because of the divisive message coming out from our president. >> gene sperling, thank you very much. and victoria and nick burns, we'll leave it there. but there's a big downturn in the economic impact and the jobs in the travel and tourist industry. and also in foreign students coming here. tori, great to see you again. nick burn, thank you so much. coming up, let's talk. president trump dropping in on reporters and saying he's looking forward to answering questions from robert mueller. nbc's kristen welker was front and center telling us what happened next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation.

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president trump surprising the white house press corps by dropping on in an unscheduled "meet the press" moment. >> are you going to talk to mueller? >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. here's the story, just so you understand. there's been no collusion whatsoever. there's no obstruction whatsoever, and i'm looking forward to it. >> msnbc's kristen welker was face-to-face with the president

and interviewing him on the special counsel. take a listen. >> do you have a date set? >> here's the thing. i don't know, no, i heard yesterday they were talking. subject to my lawyers, i would love to do it. >> so you're going to do it urn oath? >> oh i would do it under oath, absolutely. >> kristen welker, sound person extraordinary on her iphone. you don't need any help at all. kristen, what a moment. you're in an off-the-record moment. we all know it was, can we say where it was? >> reporter: we can say where it was. it was with the chief of staff, john kelly. we're going to have a conversation, andrea, about immigration. it was just extraordinary, though. as you say, the president walked in, we were about seven minutes into this. the president walked in and we started talking about immigration and then the conversation did turn to the

special counsel investigation with robert mueller. will president trump agree to do an in-person interview. you heard him say, yes, he looks forward to it and would do it under oath, which was incredibly striking, andrea. he stressed the fact there's been no collusion, of course, this is something we have heard him say a number of times before, but he was very definitive about it last night. and then, of course, as he was leaving for davos, his lawyer here at the white house, ty cobb, was walking back some of his statements a little bit. basically stressing the piece of this, andrea, is that there is sensitive conversations going on between his legal team and between the special counsel about the size, the scope, what this interview is specifically going to look like, whether there will be any type of written portion to this interview, for example, andrea. so there's still a lot of details to work out. we have a little bit in terms of the timing. the president very clear he expects this to take place in the next two to three weeks, andrea. >> and you also talked to him

about immigration in a d.r.e.a.m.ers compromise. let me play a little bit of that. >> do you think you're going to get a deal on immigration, mr. president? >> i think so. >> do you want citizenship for d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> we're going to morph into it. >> what does that mean, morph into it? >> over a period of 10 to 12 years, somebody does a great job, it gives them incentive to a great job. >> kristen, do you realize what you did getting him to answer for citizenship for d.r.e.a.m.ers? now breitbart is calling him amnesty done. what have you done? >> reporter: andrea, this is a significant moment. this has been the key question here at the white house, what will the president agree to? and last night he effectively said yes, he's open to a path to citizenship. again, that timestamp over 10 to 12 years. he used the term, it will morph into it. so making it very clear, this is not something that is going to be granted immediately.

this is something that will in ed to be earned. and he stressed that point and stressed funding for the border wall. we pressed him on the amount of $25 billion. what is interesting about this is that earlier in the day, sarah huckabee sanders had said they are going to put an immigration proposal out on the table on monday. the president really previewing what that is going to look like, but andrea, you touch on the most important point, which is that the challenge for the president, the challenge for this white house, is that his conservative base sees this as a real departure from his campaign promise to get tough on immigration and to not agree to what they see as amnesty. so there you have breitbart out with that headline. and i think he's going to be getting pressure from his conservative base, particularly from some of his allies who he still speaks with, that this could be seen as amnesty. that's where it gets politically very difficult for this president. at the same time, i think this president knows that is something that might need to happen in order for democrats to sign onto. there's one other big headline

that he was asked if d.r.e.a.m.ers should be worried if they don't get a deal in time for that march date. of course, that is when daca expires. the president said d.r.e.a.m.ers have nothing to worry about, andrea. >> and mark meadows from the freedom caucus, he's getting an earful there. john kelly sticking behind to negotiate all this and he's been taking a hard line. to be continued. kristen, my hat's off to you. i've seen a lot of time, this was amazing. >> reporter: thank you, andrea. appreciate it. coming up, forgive and forget. we'll explain why evangelical christians are giving president trump a do-over and mull michigan for some of his past behavior. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. (vo) i was born during

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great day, a great day in davos. it will remain to be seen what he will accomplish with his voice there tomorrow. a powerful day with evan g vaves back home. the president of the conservative research council says president trump should get a mulligan when it comes to his personal behavior. >> the evangelicals did not vote for donald trump based on his moral qualifications, but based upon what he said he was going to do and who he was surrounding himself with. we kind of gave him a mulligan.

>> a mull began for 70 years of his life? >> that prompted this from michael steele. >> i told him to shut the hell up and never preach to me ever again. after telling me how to live my life, who to believe, who to love, what to do and what not to do, if the prostitutes don't matter, that grabbing the you know what doesn't matter, the outright behavior and lies don't matter, just shut up. >> joining me now is michael steele and ruth marcus, "washington post" deputy editorial and columnist. who is shutting up? not you, certainly. >> certainly not me. this is profoundly an important iss issue. where does this come from? why are you so passionate about this? i spent a number of years in a monastery. i've been grounded in my faith. and the moral traditions for a

long, long time. and i have brought that to my own public service as a former lieutenant governor. and even chairman of the republican national committee. so to hear individuals in my party and leaders within the party sort of backslide on this moral stance, the moral stance that they've held the rest of us to, quite honestly, for over a generation now, to me was just not just disheart anythiening b offensive. you have given up the moral authority to preach, if you will, about the behavior and lifestyle and other aspects of what we go through every day. >> but michael, i totally agree with you, but i also have a question, which is, what is new here? the mulligan was given to donald trump a long time ago during the campaign by evangelicals. and they have been dispensing mulligans like, you know, indulgences for some time. >> to be clear, i said that at the time and expressed a great deal of concern during the campaign.

going back to even before the "access hollywood" tape that this was a very, i thought, treacherous and dangerous position for leaders in evangelical communities to take. you either believe what the gospel teaches, and don't, i have heard people say, well, you know, god has chosen flawed leaders before. i'm sorry, i'm not putting donald trump up there with david and moses and others. but what i'm saying is, that's fine, that still doesn't negate the standard that you have been preaching to others. >> i want to ask you, you guys, also about the war on opioids. and the fact that it was being run out of the white house by a 24-year-old former campaign worker with no experience at all, finally they got rid of him apparently, but where is this national crisis? i talked to barry mccaffrey, the former drug czar for bill clinton. he was a retired general at the time. and look at the fact that he's a

completely unqualified young man was running the white house office on drug abuse. >> well, this is a national emergency. i think it's been declared as such. and it is outrageous to have people not quite ready for primetime in that position, but i think it is also important for us to remember that this is not kind of one isolated episode in an important position. there's just a story, i think, in "the daily beast" about another deputy chief of staff so fresh out of college, several years out of college, that he lists on his resumé being an eagle scout. and michael steele, this is for you, he lists on his resumé an executive intern at the rnc. some of us got internships off our resumé a while ago. >> it says a lot about how to treat people in these positions, but it is really about putting people in this position to carry

the kind of water they want them to carry. >> lynn patton at h.u.d., a trump official, taking on april ryan and tweeting, i hear #misspiggy is still on a nerve. gee, i must've struck a nerve. @aprilryan. a 20-year veteran white house correspondent. >> more importantly, someone who has a position of responsibility within the administration. and, you know, there is questions about, were those tweets done on company time? >> doesn't matter. it doesn't matter. >> it does matter to the extent that there could be violations that have repercussions with respect to her job, but on a broader sense, the fact that she would engage someone like april ryan and speak the way she did, yeah, that's a problem. >> she's apologized. i'm going to say, she said,

tonight i made an inexcusable comment on my personal twitter account. i deeply regret and deleted on my own volition. i sincerely apologize to @aprilryan at hud. ryan responded, fake info, girl, check your facts. i work for american urban radio network not sheridan. whose wedding are you planning now and what wig company do you work for? kick rocks little girl. don't mess with april ryan. >> don't mess with april ryan. and all of us should think before we tweet. and there's no such thing when you're in a government job, when you're in the public eye, when you're in the media, when you're in a private personal twitter account reflects on your employer. we are told that all the time. and fundamentally it reflects on you. >> you're absolutely right, but that's not a standard applied by this administration across the board. >> we'll have to leave it there. watch your tweets.

>> that's right. >> i delete a lot. and still ahead, secret society. republicans using a joke from an fbi official to undermine the russia investigation. congressman adam schiff is joining us next. stay with us.

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select portions of a top intelligence memo despite pleas from trump doj officials and republican senate intelligence leader richard burr. a former aid to jeff sessions says releasing the memo without prior permission would be, quote, reckless. i am joined from l.a. by congressman adam schiff. what would be the implications for nunez putting this out for the world to see? >> well, the chairman of the house intelligence committee is ready to sacrifice national interest. to sacrifice investigative interest in order to help defend, protect and cover for the president. it's really a continuation of what the chairman did at the very beginning of the investigation when he went on that now very publicized midnight run to the white house. and then later went back to the white house to purportedly obtain evidence he obtained

within the intelligence community. we later learned that actually information he was presented to the white house he had gotten from the white house. it was a charade. well, this is a very different kind and more serious that read, and that is that he's attempting to tar the entire intelligence community, the bob mueller investigation, in order to once again protect the president. and it's a terrible disservice as well as a terrible distraction. >> and i also wanted to ask you about what the president said to the white house correspondents to kristen welker and others last night in john kelly's office. >> did you ask mccabe who he voted for? did you have him? >> i don't know what is the big deal with that. >> he didn't see anything wrong with talking to mccabe, even if he didn't say he remembered talking to mccabe and having

asked him who he voted for at the time, because comey had been fired. but he didn't see anything wrong with asking him who he voted for. then he mentioned the fact that mccabe's wife got money from terry mccauliff, the equivalent of taking money from hillary clinton running for a state office. the president of the united states doesn't see what is wrong with asking a top fbi official whom he voted for. >> yes, well, if he doesn't see what is wrong, that is a problem. if he does, then he's misrepresenting the conversation that is a different problem. either way, it's part of a problem. and that is that he wanted loyalty from james comey, he wants to make sure comey is loyal to him, not to the county or the justice department or the fbi. and similarly, the questions of mccabe, which are entirely inappropriate and improper are an effort to elicit, are you going to have my back? i've got this russian cloud hanging over many i head, can i count on you? not to do the right thing, not

to be impartial and a diligent fbi acting director, but can uh count on you personally? did you vote for me? are you for me? unfortunately, this is how the president views the fbi and the justice department. you're either with him or against him. and at this point he obviously puts mcgabe in the against him category, which is a terrible, i think, maligning of a career public servant in mr. mccabe. >> i also wanted to ask you about this whole question of the texts between the fbi officials and the justice department official, which they are now the opposition to mueller are seizing on as a secret society against donald trump. the actual text, the message that they have not publicly released, is the morning after the election, the surprising election of donald trump and one of these two who are in a romantic relationship says to the other, are you even going to

give out your calendar? seems kind of depressing. maybe it should just be the first meeting of the secret society. now, ron johnson, the wisconsin senator, seized on that to say that this is a secret society trying to overthrow the president, to stage a coup within the fbi. two people who did not support donald trump were removed when robert mueller found the texts. do you think this will undermine the mueller investigation? >> i don't think it will, but that's the goal by a selective of pushing out a certain text to discredit the fbi. it's not being done just by senator johnson. mr. gadi is doing the same thing on benghazi conspiracies. he's now spinning a conspiracy theory of this secret society within the fbi. it does damage to the national

security, the fbi when we're disparaging the bureau this way. for patent and political purposes. when the fbi agents fan out around the country like every day to interview people, the find out about plots against the citizens of this country, now people are going to wonder, okay, is this agent at my door, part of the secret society that the gop members are talking about? can i really trust them? they are undermining the work of the gt as. and for no reason that protecting the president's hyde. what i have told the committee is, you need to think beyond the next few years of this administration. we aught to all be thinking about the long-term impacts to these institutions that are vital to our democracy, but there doesn't seem to be much appreciation for that. >> quickly, do you think that what the president said indicating his willingness, walked back a little bit by ty cobb to be interviewed will hold up? will there be an interview in

the next few weeks with the president of the united states? and when he says under oath, any time he's interviewed by a fbi agent, you can be charged with perjury whether you have taken an oath or not. >> i think he will be interviewed and he has to be interviewed. it won't be a complete investigation on bob mueller's part if he wasn't. i don't know if it will happen in the next couple of weeks. i'm not familiar with what mueller's timetable is. if the talk is real and the interview is coming up within the next month or month and a half, that bob mueller is probably a lot farther along in the investigation than some might have imagined. because you would expect the normal course of things in an interview like that to be among the last interviews, not among the first. so it means, i think, if bob mueller is quite far along in the investigation, and i don't think it is a coincidence that we are seeing this afternooning up of the attacks on the department of justice because mueller is farther along in his investigation. >> congressman adam schiff,

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escalating against convicted usa gymnastics dr. larry nassar. despite the resignation last night of a michigan state university president who employed him. accepting a letter of apology, usa gymnastics, nor the committee has taken responsibility for the decades of abuse. now gold medal gymnast aly raisman speaking out this morning. accusing usa gymnastics of turning a blind eye. >> for so long, they put medals, reputation and money over the safety of athletes. and even now you see the united states olympic committee, they just spoke out monday for the first time. they just released a statement for the first time. they've been quiet this whole time. >> on this day, you stood in that courtroom, how does that experience compare to the

pressure that you felt in the olympics? >> it's very -- it's hard to put into words but it makes me literally sick, all the stress and the trauma of everything. but for that moment, i had to be strong. but i'm very, very exhausted from it. >> joining me now is kimberly atkins, for the boston herald. and msnbc contributor. and michelle sinder, white house correspondent and msnbc contributor. to hear how it still makes her sick, she's been nauseated, dizzy, headachy. she's going through all of this all over again. >> absolutely. and just think about it. she described preparing for this in a similar way she prepared for competition at the olympics and having to block everything out. and -- but it's these women, aly raisman and other people, who are the impetus here, sadly.

there are not a lot of checks in place to allow the sort of abuse to take place for so long so i think these people she referred to as an army are going to be moving forward. the impetus for change. as other -- as people look into, investigate who was responsible and what needs to be changed. >> it's not happening in a vacuum. hoda showed her pictures of the marchers this past weekend, the women who, carrying signs with her name and her quotations from her court sentencing hearing comments to larry nassar. this was that exchange. >> what struck me about your words, aly, was they weren't just said in that courtroom. those big women's marches, i was looking, there were signs that they were quoting your words. one said i have both power and voice and i'm only just beginning to see them. we are a force. >> i can't even put into words how much this means to me. i never, ever imagined this kind of support in my wildest dreams. it only motivates me to do even

more. >> lamiche, that is a powerful show of support for her. >> it's a powerful show of support. essentially shows where women are in this movement that we're having. we're really i think looking at society, looking at how the we've treated women, how we've asked women to submit their bodies to men. women coming together, including the female judge that allowed something like 160 women to stand up there and talk to him. and then essentially told him you cannot push back on these women and try to object about hearing about all the things that you've done. you have to sit here and listen. so the fact we have those quotes is because a female judge said i'm going to give you a voice. reading these stories, talking about the fact that larry had access to these women's bodies in their hotel room, at camps, their families were told to sign this paperwork and if you push back against this, you might be pushed off the team. there has to be an independent investigation into gymnastics.

i usually don't call for independent investigations but in this case it's so obvious that something really happened that's terrible. least one senator now, but other people calling for an independent investigation. i think we're going to see that because of people like aly. >> sally jenkins, extraordinary sports writer, let me share some of what she wrote. she wrote, where in the fresh red hell is an independent investigation into usa gymnastics and why isn't congress threatening to smash the u.s. olympic committee's chart near pieces with a gavle over this? it's only the worst sex abuse scandal in the history of sports. and maybe in the history of this country. usa gymnastics not only allowed serial pedophile larry nassar unsupervised access to the scores of girls in his charge over 30 years, it required them to submit to him and his utterly unjustifiable vaginal examinations. there was no saying, i don't like this, doctor, i want my own. the organizations systemically deprived them of any right to say no, to ask for alternate treatment. it makes the hollywood rapes look principled.

right on, sally jenkins. >> absolutely right. i'm actually surprised there hasn't been more of a push for congress so far. we do have senator shaheen from new hampshire is calling for a special committee to investigation this. congress has broad powers due to the charter, due to the title ix funding to places like michigan state university. with subpoena power if necessary and get to the bottom of who was involved and what comes next. >> the coverage, let me just say, "the new york times" has a full page, well two full pages. take a look at what they've done today. they have run this digitally and in the print edition. yamiceh, you know how valuable, to be doing this not only on the front page but in this exposure. >> it's incredible, but it's what needed to happen, because these women essentially need to have voices, they need to have faces. if you think about the fact that usa gymnastics had not spoken

bout this until after he was sentenced. that's incredible. the fact "the new york times" and others had to put these women out there for us to know who they are, to hear their voices. it speaks to the fact that usa j gymnastics has a lot of work to do. >> we're going to leave there for now, to be continued. thank you so much. more ahead. with my grandkids 'cause of the burning, shooting pain in my feet. i hear you, sam. cedric, i couldn't sleep at night because of my diabetic nerve pain. i hear you, claire, because my dad struggled with this pain. folks, don't wait. step on up and talk to your doctor. because the one thing i keep hearing is... i'm glad i stepped on up. me too, buddy. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, step on up and talk to your doctor today.

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