he -- wynn casino has not received any complaint bs wynn. joining me now, political, i want to start with you, we are getting new information about what the president was told about wynn's resignation, what can you tell us about that? >> we learned that ryan mcdan l mcdanieled president trump t she called the president when he was on air force one, returning from switzerland. this has become politically untenable. steve wynn and president trump

are now friends, they were once rivals, the president himself a former casino mogul. just last week, he appeareds a fundraiser, the one that president trump didn't attend. how president trump hand-picked him to be the finance chairman. to steer the party through what would likely be the mid term elections, followed up by a video recording of president trump thanking him for his work. that is the sense of the political dynamic at work. given the latest development. >> at this point, any sense that white house will comment further on this issue? >> we asked for a comment. asked if a comment will be coming. we haven't heard back. i suspect that briefest of statements from mcdaniel is all we hear from republicans in washington to try to minimize

the damage. people to make the statement, she said nothing about the millions steve wynn has doit naed to republican causes. and nothing about the partern of abuse accounted in the "wall street journal" reporting. >> the president faced charges of sexual misconduct, is it better for him to stay quiet on this wynn issue? >> we have seen time after time, the president is invulnerable to this accusation. people around him frequently going down for this sort of thing. the president seems to skate on other republicans would have been more endangered by the wynn allegations. the truth is, the rerigination doesn't mean anything, there will be a continued call from democrats to say, all right,

steve wynn gave $5 million, the vast majority of that to republican, are they going to be returning that money? that is fair, given the whole thing that happened with harvey weinstein's contributions, the story doesn't go away, regardless of what the president says about it. >> a similar situation to the ones that democrats were in with harvey winestein. >> if you go through the twitter handle, why a democrat hasn't given back the money, they are silent about steve wynn, accused of this. a bunch of rich and powerful men around, there is a chance some will be accused of and even guilty of sexual harassment.

if you don't coat your words with honey, when you taste them, they will be bitter. >> and can they criticize republicans, given that they accepted some of his donations? >> he is the finance chairman of the republican national committee. it is only fair, given that. you know, i don't think it is necessarily true that any powerful man who is hired in a position comes with this sort of baggage. it is fair game. it is really striking that so many people have come into trump's orbit wind up destroyed in proximity to him. >> what are the ramifications if they don't give the money back? >> predicting politics is

difficult. i can't remember what happened last week. we know florida, where i am based, he is running for governor, he got big critics from steve wynn a few years ago. we will be checking on that what you will be seeing over the next few days is the news media going through the politicians. finding out how much money they got, if they will give it back. similar to harvey winestein. many men have been accused of this. >> gentlemen, thank you. >> democratic strattist, and center for american progress action fund. and michael steele, former spokesman for john baner.

>> i think that he had to go, i am glad he went. wish it could have been slightly faster ux in the end, the right thing happened. >> emily, he denied the allegations and stepped down, what kind of pressure do you think was brought to bear to make this happen? >> to all reports t wasn't a ton of pressure, he made the decision by himself. it is good that he decided to step down. where was the pressure? it is obvious that sexual harassment happens on every side. it htz to do with power more than anything else. the response is partisan. i think it is great he stepped down from his position. hugely problematic, there doesn't seem to be pressure in the republican party. the reason there isn't pressure is because of this difficult situation with the president.

he has 16, 17, honestly, i can't remember how many accusers he had and roy moore had. independent story that is sound similar he has never answered to. difficult for republican toos have credibility on the issue. >> what about wynn's political contributions here, do you expect the same from republican contributions to give that money back like we saw with harvey weinstein. >> i don't recall how many democrats gave back weinstein's money. in most cases, the money is spent. and mr. wynn did give to both parties, if you are reading the original "wall street journal" half way down, there is a picture of him with harry reed. >> i want to read a statement

from the democratic national committee, released prior to wynn's resignation. this is the party of donald trump, roy moore, democrats will refuse to stand by, while the party dem does this resignation change anything in your view? >> it is a small step, the republican party, someone who is a huge figure in the party. to be the finance chairman, that is a major job. a large position within the party. someone at this level, good. i am glad a line has been drawn. there is a rot throughout the party. numerous members of congress, some resigned, some have not, still in congress, who paid out

payments on sexual haermt. they seem to be fine starting out their terms, there seems to be an idea, if you don't talk about it, it doesn't exist, somehow you can just attack democrats on it. i am unclear where it stands. the dnc response was clear. women were the center of it it creates a huge contrast on the rnc side. missing any reference to the women at all. and what will happen to the money? that remains a huge question. it is not that it was outside giving, every one of the candidates will have to face a new cycle at home, many of them are in vulnerable seats. >> do you expect the allegations against wynn will have any effect on trump? >> he called him a good friend.

faced allegations of his own. do you think this will prompt the president to say or do anything differently? >> if donald trump were a conventional president, you would see that. he has been the teflon don since the 1980, i don't think he will feel any pressure to change his behavior, and do anything than what he has been doing, as a presidential candidate and president. he tries it once, will high try again, the legislative push to stop president trump was handing mueller a pink slip.

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>> democrats are looking to protect robert mueller from being fired. quote -- >> this latest effort to curb the "new york times" report that trump ordered mueller's dismissal back in june. for bloomberg new, and a political report for politicalo.

the statement, from the times times, we decline to comment out of respect for the office of the special council and its process. the president did deny the story when he was in davos. can you explain the difference in response? >> no. what we are witnessing here, the president is getting legal advice, which is not what he personally wants to do. that i think will be interesting. should the president ultimately decide that he wants to sit down with bob mueller and his team, that would be directly against president trump's own legal attorneys. so, this is an on-going dynamic. the president's stifrt state of

the union, the last was a joint address to congress. when he is going to try to lay out his plan for the next legislative year. >> allana, we know there is a are you newed push by demthe kras to protect mueller. tillis is backing away from legislation to try to shield mueller, do we know why? >> his claims that tooimz too z tooimz -- "new york times." it is clear there is a continued threat of firing, and tillis needs to get back on board with legislation that he helped to write. >> allan arepublicans control the house and senate right now. are democrats wasting their time with this effort? >> this is political. entirely. they don't control as you pointed out in the chamber, they

can make a huge issue over tillis and graham, two who helped to write the protect mueller bills. what do they say you no? continue to back away. it is a key thing for democrats. >> charlie denlt told a colleague of ouyours, quote -- >> could the amped up attacks back fire? >> a lot of republicans on capitol hill, as this investigation continued, many of them want to see this investigation reach a conclusion. for bob mueller's team reach a conclusion, for all of the facts

to be presented. on the flip side of that look, democrats are trying to continue to make sure that this is a fair investigation, and that the investigators are able to get all the facts that they need. no question with it it is political. at the end of the day, everybody outside of washington wants to, they have all the facts until the investigation reaches conclusion, it looks like, based on the comments of president's conclusions, reach the end of that clusion, as we see the interviews get closer and closer to the president and we will have to see, should he decide that he wants to sit down and meet with them. >> and we appreciate your analysis on this thank you. >> lawmakers, skipping the first state of the union. we will talk with maxine waters,

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95 killed in an explosion in afghanistan's capital. the attacker hid explosives in an ambulance, and detonated in kabul. marking the second strike in kabul in one week. president trump called the attack despicable. >> after 15 years, the grammy awards are heading back to new york city, and the nypd is preparing. the new measures follow attacks on concerts in manchester, england, las vegas and paris. >> joe kennedy the third to give the official democratic response to president trump's state of the unit address. the 37-year-old has emerged as a vocal advocate of the affordable care act and civil rights. >> boycotters stand at five.

lewis. wilson, maxine waters, all have gone on the record calling him a racist and liar, not deserving of their time. >> at this junction, i do not plan to attend the state of the union. >> i believe that state of the union message is an honor that is afforded the president. by the speaker, who invites him to deliver the state of the union. i don't want to give him that. >> maxine waters, congresswoman, thank you for being here. >> delighted to be here. >> you have said that you don't trust the president. that he does not deserve your attention. by not attending the state of the union, do you feel you are giving up your seat at the table? are there other ways to protest the president? >> i am not giving up any seat at the table.

democrats don't have any seats at the table. this president has totally disregarded us. and of course, i have made it known time and time again that i think he does not deserve to be president. he is a dishonorable man, with a flawed character. he has no good valus, he has demonstrated that. he defined himself over and over again. there are millions of americans who are sick and tired of him. tired of his lies, fired of the ways that he made promises he cannot keep. tired of the ways he attempts to negotiate. and so, we all know this man is not deserving of the presidency, and of course, topped it off speaking of africa and haiti in the most racist ways. why should i go and take up a seat at the state of the union, knowing that i don't believe in

him. i don't trust him, and i don't know what he could possibly be saying to any american at this point in time. >> is it possible though that going to the state of the union and be ache to look the president in the eye, and convict him in the way that you just did, being in the room, might give you an opportunity to do that is it a missed chance? >> no, i don't think it is about trying to look him in the eye. with all of the members of the house, and the senate, there is nobody looking him in the eye. i don't think it would make a difference, anyway. i think it is a waste of my time. i think that i am as a citizen, as a member of congress, deserving of better representation. why keep normalizing this president? this situation. i guess we could all go there and talk about the gentle lady and the gentle man and go through the protocols, people will clap. that is normalizing this

presidency. which we should not be doing. we are setting ourselves up for others who will come after him that may act in the same way. no, going there does not buy you anything. >> i understand that you will be on the hill, you are making arrangements to have space for millennials on will hill. >> i have been adopted by millennials, they refer to me as auntie maxine. i want to be an enabler, i want to open up the process for them. we have talented young people, doing pod casts and broadcasters, and they have not really been welcomed into you know, the congress at the united states in ways that they have spaces to cover this state of the union. i created a millennial role. i invited as many millennials

doing this work as i possibly can. i invited members to go in and do interviews with them. right now, i think we have 45 members who are going to come, more will be signing up, to sit down and get in touch with this population that will make a difference in 2018. >> i see reports you will be giving your own televised response to the president's message on wednesday. what message do you plan to send to the president? will you watch the speech to prepare your response? >> if i watch it, i will be watching it from the outside. i will be sitting in the room that i have organized for the millennials, i will watch and listen to what he is saying, then i will respond. i am doing that under the abet,

who asked me. >> reports of alleged sexual misconduct, we know the president faced allegations on this issue. what is your response? >> yes, he probably should have stepped down. probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. we are tired of these predator, these rich men, who think they can abuse their employee, he may be rich and a casino owner, and he may have gotten away with it for years, people are coming forward. it doesn't matter if he was the treasurer of the rnc or any other so-called responsible position. he should not be in it. >> the "new york times" report, didn't just consider firing

special counsel mueller, but ordered it at one point of the. >> i have known this dishonorable man would be caught up. i believe he is impeachable. and of course, our special council have been investigating a collusion and obstruction of justice. i think he has done both. i don't care which he is caught on, where the dots are connected. i believe that he is impeachable, and this obstruction of justice, i think, has been verified in more than one way. even if they cannot absolutely say he has done t i think if you look at the word endeavor to do, i am looking forward to his impeachment. >> mrs. waters, we appreciate your time today. >> you're welcome. >> watch t,ds all day coverage

of the president's state of the union. morning joe gets it going, and brian williams, and rachael maddow, breakdown the speech and what it means for the year ahead. all day tuesday on msnbc. >> will returning will be held out to the same standards when it comes to steve wynn. rnc finance chair. that continues after the break. ostand some eye problems.

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>> casino mogul steve wynn has resigned as hnc chair. this comes a day after the "wall street journal" according to the journal, dozens of people who worked at mr. wynn's casino that told of behavior that would amount to a decade long period of sexual misconduct. the idea they ever assaulted any woman is preposterous. and wynn's casino said it has not received any complaints about wynn. john l. smith, the author of "running scared the life and treacherous times of steve

wynn." >> explain the power that he has in las vegas, how he extended that into politics? >> steve wynn is really been an all-powerful player for many, many years, in las vegas, especially. it is really a very much a company town that is controlled largely by the dollars invested from casino moguls such a wind, and others, into the political process. it is hard to really overstate the power of steve wynn at the state level. he kicked it up a notch, when donald trump became president. he clearly has been in recent years, a friend and advisor to trump. years earlier, they were at each other's throats, litigated. testy litigation. those hatchets have been buried, now they are best friends. so, there is that element.

i think once trump became president, he got a key to the front door of the white house. >> describe what you know about the culture within wynn's organization, and how does one relate to the allegations against him? >> the running scared was published in 1995. my research went back years before that what i found in interviewing a number of people, including his valet, named ron tucky. his visitors and his hired help. that was a long time ago. and newspapers locally, and nationally for many years, seemed reluctant to pursue anything like that we see this week, that has all changed,

thanke thanke thanks to "the wall street journal." >> there was a lot of great reporting there, it did not surprise me. the detail, the fact that people were willing to step up. even speaking withan nimity. knowing in a company town, it is a very, very small town when it comes to current and future employment. it took a lot of coverage to give those interviews, the newspaper had tremendous reporters on duty. >> given what we know about the wynn name in las vegas. what do you think this reporting means not just for the wynn company, but for the city of las vegas, too. all he holds there, and the footprint he has in that city? >> this is really an interesting point. you know, at the national level, he resigned as finance chair. he has a lot more clout once you

are inside the state line, once are you on the vegas strip. there are a few that will challenge him at any level. i don't know if this hurts his brand. i don't know, we will have to see. i guy known as a visionary, the builder of the best hotels on the las vegas boulevard. there is a long record in vegas, back to the first piece in 1967. he has a tremendous legacy. complicated on the strip, it will be difficult to get him off that board if people are trying to do that. >> what allegations do you see having an impact on him,

personally? >> he clearly is a give who safered the spotlight. more in recent years, on fox news, he has been a popular person on different programs. sharing his political opinions on business. and it sounds like that is not going to continue at least for the time being. so, there may be a kind of going back into his own. a privileged gaming license in nevada. it may be subjected to scrutiny at some level at some time. >> we appreciate you spending time with us today. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> next, is president's order is

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general sessions spent hours being quieted by roert mueller's team last week, to the biggest development in the investigation so far, the "new york times" reporting that president trump ordered mueller fired last year, but was talked out of it. >> ned price, msnbc former special assistant to president barack obama. what do you think this is leading up to? >> a dizzying week of headlines, aaron. what we learned over the past week especially, for some reason, the investigation seems to be moving at a very fast pace when it comes to obstruction of justice. we have jeff sessions going before the special council. mike, we have others, within the

whout, other top aides going before the special council. by the reporting, with the special council focusing on the obstruction of justice. to what bob mueller is looking into. it seems for whatever reason, this has become at least the near term focus. if collusion will be added on to that later, is something that bob mueller and his team know at this point. >> elizabeth, did the president obstruct justice when he ordered the white house to fire robert mueller? >> certainly, he was trying to stop an investigation and cover up. whether this amounts to itself obstruction of justice. we have a large spectrum of activities by the president, trying to stop this investigation. into collusion with russia. we have his firing of combe --

comey. and the president has yet to be interviewed. we may be coming to a constitutional crisis of the i am skeptical that his lawyers will permit him to come and testify before robert mueller. >> what do you make of that? what will happen if his lawyers try to stop the president from answering questions? >> i think the problem is, you

have a president that doesn't like to be called weak, and if he doesn't testify, it will seem like he is scared. that won't play well with the american people. this is a pathological liar, it sent clear to me he knows the difference between truth and falsity. what will he say before mueller? he doesn't know all the facts that mueller knows. he could easily be in a situation where he is committing perjury if he goes to testify. i think it is dangerous for him. we could have a constitutional crisis. if he doesn't show up, then what? thumbing his nose at the institution of justice of this country. who knows what will happen. >> ned, why is this information coming out now, do you think? >> there has been speculation on that very point. june was many months ago, late january of the following year. there has been speculation,

perhaps, even though donald trump didn't seem to take the idea further in june, when his white house counsel threatened to quit rather than follow through with the order, there is a speculation that donald trump returned to the idea of firing bob mueller, this was a preventative step on behalf of the staff to bring it to the public's attention and get donald trump to back off his renewed interest in taking this rather than unconstitutional step. the cries we are hearing from congress, no need to protect bob mueller. even tom tillis, who introduced a piece of legislation like this in the first place. it is up to condition to pass legislation to ensure, if donald trump has a renewed interest in firing mueller, he is not

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welcome back. president trump on thursday unveiled his immigration plan. it proposed a path to citizenship for daca recipients and eligible d.r.e.a.m.ers. but in exchange, president trump

wants $25 billion for a border wall and an end to so-called chain migration and the visa lottery system. democratic critics have called the proposal a ransom note. >> that plan is a campaign to make america white again. it is a plan that says over 50% of the current legal immigration will be cut back. >> joining me now are maria jinosa ofm pr latino usa and joining me is immigration attorney fiona macin tee. thank you for being here. i want to start with you, maria, what are your thoughts about the president's proposal from last week. >> i think the immigrants that i've spoken to, and i speak as a journal and i didn't represent npr or pbs. i think they wish they could believe this.

but there is nothing in recent history in terms of this president that should give them any sense of comfort, that this possibility of 10 to 12 years somehow leading to citizenship, until -- we were speaking about this, until i see something in writing and it is actually being voted on, i think all of this is a real mind game for immigrants across the board and a tremendous amount of pressure on their mental health and there is the politics and then the reality of these young people. >> so when you look at the plan as the president has presented it, is it clear what should change to you? >> again, we have had so many forms and discussions of this plan. what i'm hearing is these young people saying you want us to accept a limited exposure in terms of daca, which is all d.r.e.a.m.ers are not daca. daca is only 800,000 of about 2 million d.r.e.a.m.ers. you want us to say yes to this.

but other than that, we're going to have to support $25 billion and a complete -- a complete change in our immigration system. the problem is what about the democrats? can -- what is -- what i'm hearing is young people saying, can we trust them? because it is unclear what they stand for. so it is really complicated. >> fiona, i want to play sound. this is the senate minority leader chuck schumer on securing a good deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers in the conversation with majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we said on the floor we'll get a vote on february 8th of a bipartisan bill on d.r.e.a.m.ers that has myokay. so now we have a chance to get 60 votes for d.r.e.a.m.ers in the senate. >> so you blasted members of congress on twitter for failing to take some action here. what would you need to see done to feel as though there is -- there is something that will

produce a clean bill here? >> well i think first everybody needs to look at white house proposal that they -- that they are trying to introduce. in return for getting these daca recipients some type of legal status and citizenship in ten to 12 years in return for that, they are taking away almost all of the family based immigration visa categories. and just to give you an example, let's say when the daca recipients become u.s. citizens, they are not going to be able to sponsor their own parents as a u.s. citizen because that is part of the new plan. nor could you sponsor an adult child. they want to limit family-based sponsorship solely to minor children and to spouses. and that is -- that is getting rid of about 400,000 green cards per year in addition to getting rid of the diversity visa. >> so as an immigration attorney, what are you hearing from kr-- your clients about th?

>> i'm money immigrant myself. and the believability that they are not welcome in america and universities are not coming. it is having massive impact. and just as maria was saying, the fear and the mental health that we see. these are people's lives that are just being toyed around with a on a daily basis. >> maria, we have this march 5th daca protection deadline and the possibility of another government shutdown before that, february 8th. what are you hearing in the latino community? what are the fears that you are hearing from people? >> oh, my gosh. we don't have enough time to talk about the number of fears and concerns that i've heard from latino immigrants, from african immigrants from caribbean immigrants who are not latino, from jamaica and bangladeshi and pakistani. the concern is overwhelming. but nobody understands what the plan is forward. frankly, the criticism a pox on

the house of the republicans and the democrats. there is no clarity whatsoever in terms of where things stand. and the political dealing back and forth has created a sentiment in the community that they feel like they don't have a lot of control. and you have to remember that these -- many of them, these young people are putting their bodies on the line. but there are other immigrants who are afraid to speak up. so the question is how do we feel about this. how do the rest of us, born in mexico but i'm an american citizen, how do the rest of us feel about what is going on and what are we going to do about this particular moment? >> fiona, we're seeing the increased activity from immigration and customs enforcement to deport undocumented immigrants. what impact are the white house policies having on families as you see in just a few seconds left here. >> so the new proposal actually purports to increase the number of i.c.e. officers. so we'll see if it was to go ahead more of the deportation force coming into play in the

future. >> maria and fiona. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. that wraps it up for this hour. here at msnbc. stay with us for updates and breaking news. "all-in" with chris hayes is up next. make it a great saturday. tonight on "all-in." >> fake news, folks. >> the plot to fire mueller. >> typical new york times fake stories. >> tonight new concerns the threat to the special counsel hasn't passed and yet one republican is backing off his plan to protect robert mueller and what all this means for the russia investigation. >> i haven't given it any thought. >> then -- >> yeah, maybe donald trump wanted to fire the special counsel for a conflict. does he not have a right to raise those questions. >> can trump tv sustain the president through his latest crisis. >> the president said it is fake news. what do you think about that and do you even