charleston highway and pine ridge drive. that's the road that is closed. ironically, our state and emergency operations center is on the other end of this road. but that part is what's closed. on the other side of highway 321 south is an amazon fulfillment center, grace baptist church, and those places are where we are seeing more of the walking wounded. they brought in buses from our county, from richmond county, for the more seriously injured, they are taking them to a number of regional hospitals and then brought buses from the recreation commission here to pick up people that weren't injured and moved them to the middle school and luggage at some point. so it is winding down now. the road is still closed, but that's where we are right now. >> and paul, you mentioned that you were there within 15 minutes when you had heard this go over the radio and the walking wounded were already there, how

long did it take response teams to get there with the buses to get the injured out? >> the buses took a little longer, but we got a lot of ambulances on the scene quickly. our fire services very well equipped, very well trained, that i got here very quickly and began to treat people and to sort them. they brought the triage kits out and began to sort the most injured. there were the green tagged who were the less injured or not injured at all, and the yellow and red tags. those went straight to the hospitals in columbia. >> we know there were two fatalities in this, i don't know if you have had any word, we don't know if it was from the csx train or the amtrak train, have you heard anything about that? >> that has not been released and the coroner has not released any information other than two people have passed. >> anything else to describe on the scene, any indication as to why this collision happened? >> no, i will tell you again, this is near a freight yard

where they unload new automobiles to be put on trucks for distribution. and there is switching going on there. so whether that train was on the track unloading and something happened, that's going to be up to the ntsb, but it was close to the place where they unload new automobiles from freight trains. >> have you heard updates from those taken to the middle school awaiting transport? what are the plans to take the people from the middle school to get them on their way? >> they have not said. they have not said at all. that will come from the county and the emc, the emergency operations center. we'll have to monitor them, but pine ridge middle school is within a half mile or mile at the most, it's right across from the state emergency operations center. for a place for this to happen, even though it is a terrible accident, we are blessed how

close it was to everything in regards to services. the state emergency operations center, the school, we've got great resources here. >> and paul, if you would, you mentioned that when you got on the scene, you saw some of the walking wounded there. can you describe the nature of their injuries? >> i could not get that close, i did not try to get that close. the fire service, the ems, the police were on the scene already and more were coming, i pulled over several times to let the police cars pass me on the way over here. they were immediately converging. all you could see was some people walking along that appeared to be passengered and did not appear to be the terribly injured ones. >> and obviously, they are keeping you away from the scene. how far are you from this? we can see from the picture, but -- >> i'm within 100 yards right now, within 100 yards of where my videos and photographs were. i am within 100 yards of the bridge and the train is under the bridge. >> you said this happened in an area where there was a freight

train station where they were possibly switching. is there a residential area where other people could have heard the collision or came out to help? >> well, no, it's not really a residential area. it is very rural and close to the farmer's market, but it is right outside the city of cayce. and the city of cayce is very residential with a lot of services. >> paul kirby, thank you. any more details about the scene there? what are you seeing? seeing more ambulances? >> most of them are leaving now. all of the patients have been taken off the train, the law enforcement has the road blocked. most everybody is leaving the scene now and moving from the rescue operation to the recovery operation. >> and what about the fuel spul there, are you seeing the rescue teams there? >> that's very far up the track where the locomotives were. our fire services had to walk up to that area, so i cannot see

that at all. >> paul, do you know how many trains were on the amtrak train? how many cars there were? >> i do not. >> and you mentioned that in the front of the train is where most of the damage was, the front of the amtrak train. do we know how many cars derailed in this? >> no, they have not released that. you can't see down to the front. our emergency workers are walking that way. they did eventually get vehicles in there. they did bring in the collapse team, which is part of our fire service, because they had walking wounded and people that were slightly injured, but they had what they called a small ravine, a big ditch, basically, and they used equipment off the collapse truck, wood and timbers, to build sort of a trinlg to let folks get across. >> palul, you are from this are where they do the switching, have they had issues before? or do they do this primaryfully

the middle of the night? >> usual lly different times of the day. i have never recalled another accident like this. nothing even remote -- i don't remember them having an accident period involving the trains. >> when the train tracks, as the amtrak train is going by, you said this was at a switching station. how large is that freight train switching station area? >> well, it's enough to get some trains off. i'm not a train expert, by any means, but i do know they can take trains off and allow them to unload the cars into the big parking area where they then take the cares and put them on the truck. so it is a fairly large acreage, but the switching lot is no more than a side track where they take the cars off and apparently, i'm not sure if they turn them into that parking area where they take the new cars off or besides it, but it is not a train station, it is just a

little yard. 5, 10 acres, where they take the new cars off. >> paul, if you would, how far is this from the train station amtrak stop? >> the only train station we have in south carolina that i'm aware of right here is in the city of columbia, which is probably 15 miles away. >> 15 miles to the north or south of where you are right now? >> it is actually over to our east. we are west columbia. cayce is west of the city of columbia. and that's where we are right now. >> so if that had possibly stopped at the station, do we have any indication, have we heard how fast this train was possibly traveling? >> no, ma'am. they have not released that. again, the ntsb will be dealing with that. >> the ntsb heard earlier they were cleaning up a diesel spill. they had two leaks on the train. >> that's not the ntsb. our hazmat unit is on scene and they have called for what is the

department of environment and health control, and they will be consulting on how to clean the diesel fuel up. >> paul, with eknow that the uninjured are at pine ridge middle school. are there plans to move them to a new train? or how will they transport them to get them on the way? >> pine ridge middle school, a few miles past the school, is a bus depot where all of district two's buses are parked. and we have a recreation commission, recreation and aging, they have buses to pick up senior citizens to take them to the center for meals on wheels. and the counties have large buses for ems, so there are ways to transport people here. our county is very prepared for something like this. and they have been contacting folks like this regarding district two buses, but there are probably 30 buses there now.

>> 30 buses. paul, you said you were on the scene 15 minutes after this happened, and we are still looking at live photos here of the accident scene, which you said you're about 100 yards out. you've been there for a few hours now, can you give us a timeline and timeframe of when this started to where we are now? >> well, about 2:30 it came in. and immediately we got people here. south connery station called the battalion chief, and she was here quickly. she began to report what was going on, they set up operations channels and went into rescue mode. they began to treat the most injured and sorted through that. we had ems supervisors here very quickly to sort and triage the most injured patients. then as they got the most injured patients away by ambulance, and the ambulances were leaving with their lights and sirens on, then hazmat began to leave here, then they started

dealing with the less injured and moved to a yard down off dixianna road and began to take the buses across. that's where they had to get the collapse trucks in to give them access across the ravine. once they did that, there was a business parking lot there. they were able to soften the business parking lot. so that was going on. now we're getting to the point where they have set up the press conference, the school is set up, the red cross is there to take care of the people. in fact, some people transported to the hospital have even been moved back over to the shelter now that they have been cleared. so we are now seeing things winding down. and just police officers on the scene. >> paul, if you would standby, we'll listen to part of the press conference from a south carolina officer. we'll listen to that. please stand by, paul. >> there was a train collision and derailment near charleston

highway and pine ridge drive between a freight train and a passenger train. when we arrived on scene, we began assisting passengers off of that train. at this time, there are no passengered ees on the train, very important to point that out. there were 70 transported to the hospital for various injuries. two fatalities according to the lexington county coroner's office. those have been confirmed. >> we were just listening to harrison cahill talking about the accident and injuries. there were two fatalities and 70 people taken to local hospitals. how long was the response team? and how long did it take to get people off the train and into these safer areas? >> well, it didn't seem like that long. again, we're very well equipped. we have an emergency prepar

preparedness plan for this. it was up closer to the front of the train they required extracation. we had great assistance out of columb columbia. i know up near the front of the train, they were extracating people. most of those who could get off the train were gotten off quickly. >> when you arrived on the scene, which was now roughly five hours ago, you had seen the walking wounded. were the people disoriented or still trying to stay focused in one area before the buses were able to come to take them over the to the middle school? what was the scene like? >> i could not get that close. and i did not want to. i did not want to get in the way of the firefighters and emts. they dealt with that from the top of the bridge. you could see them dealing with people on the scene. that's a photograph that the county posted to their twitter

feed. but it quickly put a ladder truck up with lights to light the scene. and we're dealing with the people very, very squikly. so it did not take long at all for them to get here and begin to take the people that were not very seriously injured and move them out. >> paul, you just mentioned that the picture was from the top of the bridge and that there was a fire truck there with the lights on. you mentioned a ravine. how visual is this? are they coming out of a tunnel? how much space is there before they, the train and the actual freight train switching station are connected? how much space is there? >> you have to picture a up bridge going across the railroad tracks. and as soon as you cross that bridge, on the right is the unloading yard for the new cars. on the left is the state farmer's market. and it's the train right there in that portion that runs alongside pine ridge drive that would turn and go south to

savannah, georgia, down that way. 321 south eventually runs down to savannah. so this train looks to me as if it was coming out of columbia, which would make sense, coming from the north. and it went this overpass where the switching yard was around the left there, actually, coming under the overpass on the railroad tracks, on the left of the railroad tracks, and the collision happened a little further on. >> we are told the train was heading to miami. and just out of curiosity, since you are in this area all the time, are the amtrak trains often running through at this hour? is this a normal schedule for them? >> you know, i'm from the south, i was born and raised here, and we don't see many amtrak trains, we don't travel much by train here in this part of south carolina. so it would not be uncommon for them to come through at night, but we rarely see amtrak trains.

we do see in the daytime a great deal of freight trains, there's a big dog food plant up the road that manufacturers dog food and they have rail access. this place where they unload the cars have access. but i have been here my whole life and rarely see an amtrak train. >> and paul, if you would, you said you have been there your whole life and covering this area for 17 years. have there been issues before, like train delays? you said there's never been anything like this before, but other small train collisions in the area? >> very small ones, very small ones. a few weeks ago we had two trains up near our gilbert community in lexington county that basically just side-swiped each other. just barely touched, didn't really damage them, i don't believe. our firefighters responded immediately, but no one injured. we had derailments years ago with the spilling of coal, but

never anything with fatalities or loss of life. occasionally, someone will cross a crossing with a car and a car or truck will be hit, but nothing like this. this is way beyond, and again, i've worked for lexington county for 17 years, i was a captain emt and have never seen anything like this. >> paul, you said this was a rural area and not a lot of residents around to hear this. about how many people are actually in cayce, south carolina, where this accident happened? >> well, you're not in the city limits of cayce. we are outside the city limits just to the southwest of the city of cayce. cayce is a fairly nice-sized city, as is west glenn. they are very, very close, very big cities, they are growing by leaps and bounds because of the river, but we are between cayce, pine ridge and a town called gaston. and each one of those commutes

are visionarily rural. cayce is just to our north and east. we are within a mile of the city limits. >> and paul, if you would, i know we were talking before, you heard it on the radio that there was a crash and got to the scene in 15 minutes after this crash happened. we know the sheriff's department was on hand, ems, the fire department, can you give us a rundown of how quickly and how the response team reacted? how quickly this all took place to get the injured out of trains? >> our response teams are phenomenal. our fire service, our ems, our sheriff's team is very good at what they do. they immediately began to assess the people here, they immediately began to assess and set up a triage system. it was phenomenal how fast they handled this. i've been here for quite some

time, but i was just amazed at how quickly they got everybody sorted, taken where they needed to go and now they have the -- >> mr. francis, if you could, please tell us what is going on on the scene right now. robert francis, do we have you on the line? >> yes, i'm here. >> mr. francis, i know there are two fatalities and roughly 70 injuries, but 147 people they were able to transport off the train into safety at this point. what is the ntsb looking at right now? >> we are going to go back to paul kirby and try to get mr. francis back on the line there.

paul, you have been standing by, and it has been great to have you here because we know we're looking at this picture that you have taken, you're about 100 yards -- >> the one with the fire truck came off lexington county's w website, okay? that came from their website. >> that's the picture with the lights showing on the scene. but we're looking at the video you have taken because it looks from a distance, because we have the lights and the emergency crews out 100 yards out. what is the scene like now? is there an increase in cars? >> no. it's very decreased. right now, there's only a law enforcement officer here blocking off the road. local news crews are trying to access the scene but being turned away. there's a state trooper on the scene with pine ridge blocked at charleston highway. they are being kept away from the scene. >> paul kirby from "the lexington ledger," stay with us. we are going to recap. two fatalities, roughly 70 hurt

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we want to bring you up-to-date on the train derailment we are following from south carolina. this happened near the state's capital of columbia five hours ago. two are dead and 70 people are injured. this was traveling en route from new york to miami when they collided at 2:30 a.m. eastern. all passengered are now off the train and the red cross is also on the scene. we are going to russell

quinby who is here with the latest for us. >> reporter: there will be a signal performance group, a track group, different expertise groups, which will also incorporate party members, people who are amtrak folks, union representatives. they will break up into groups and try to gather facts around their area of expertise. >> i know they are on the scene, but how quickly can they assemble this? we have learned there's a fuel leak that the hazmat team is cleaning up there. do they have to wait until this is cleaned up before they can get on the scene to assess the situation? >> it is just desil fuel, something like that, and it is very localized. they will get on the ground and hit the ground running right

away. if it is something much more serious, a form of hazmat, like chlorine or something, they will have to wait. >> and russell, if you would, you're familiar with the silver star line and working with the ntsb, you have been through these crashes before, what would be different about this scene? we know there was a freight train being changed onto the tracks, how precarious is this where the silver star line comes through cayce, south carolina? >> well, it is no more dangerous than probably any other railroad. railroads have all kinds of potential dangers, but there are safety systems built in to minimize that. so they will probably be looking heavily, when you have two trains colliding on the human performance and/or somebody's

system failure. >> and we talk about the system failure, but it seems there have been a few train accidents in the headlines lately. is there something going on here with the system? or are these just random issues? or is there a real serious infrastructure problem? >> no, i don't think there's an infrastructure problem. it's just -- these are somewhat random events that just occur. some people say things come in threes, but i have seen when i was an investigator, it seemed in times that would occur. >> and they do keep up on the railroads and keep the rail lines running all the time and checking them? >> oh, yes. by federal regulation, and these types the of tracks get good inspected once if not twice a week. >> russell quimby, stormer ntsb in charge, thank you for your time. and paul kirby, thank you for

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