all right. thanks for watching this hour of "velshi & ruhle." i'll be back at 3:00 p.m. eastern. >> and i'll see you soon. right now we hand it off to andrea mitchell for "andrea mitchell reports." >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," counterpunch. president trump takes down democratic intelligence committee leader adam schiff on twitter as the committee votes today on whether or not to release the democrat rebuttal. >> i never saw the democrats do something like this so partisan, so reckless, and really just laid waste to the government protocols of government committees. he's been engaged in these tactics purely to defend, make excuses, and try to protect mr. trump. true grit. president trump calls devin nunes a great american hero. nunes is facing a republican

divide, though. his own colleagues saying that memo does not clear the trump campaign of colluding with russia. the background noise is way high today -- >> democrats are tying this to the mueller investigation because they're trying to perpetuate in nonsense of obstruction of justice because they've left the russia collusion issue. they know there was no collusion. >> i actually don't think it has any impact on the russia probe. i am on record saying i support bob mueller 100%. i think he would have a russia -- look, russia tried to interfere with our election in 2016, with our without a dossier. and flying high. the eagles soar to their first super bowl win as their notorious fans reach new heights on the streets of philadelphia overnight. >> and time runs out. and for the philadelphia eagles, the long drought is over.

finally. >> we're world champions! >> not only do we have the best fans in the world, we now have the best team in the world. good day, philadelphia. i'm andrea mitchell in washington, where the war of words between president trump and congressional democrats over the republican memo is escalating. with the president firing the first shot on twitter this morning, accusing adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee, of criminal activity, specifically, the illegal leak of confidential information gained from closed committee hearings. all that not substantiated. then just hours later, praising his intelligence chair, devin nunes, saying a great american hero and a man of courage and grit. joining me now, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, a loyal philadelphian. and kara lee, also from philadelphia. and msnbc political analyst

robert costa, national political reporter at "the washington post," moderator of "washington week," and a philadelphian. and i think, robert, you were there last night in philadelphia for the celebration. but i'll throw it to kristen first for the latest from the white house because the president just now leaving without, i guess, answering any questions. >> that's right, andrea. all of us philadelphians a little bleary eyed today after staying up late to watch that incredible game. but you're right. president trump just left moments ago. he didn't respond to shouted questions. he's heading to cincinnati. he's going to be otouting his bg tax reform victory. it comes as tensions are escalating over that republican memo released last week. republicans trying to make the case -- the president at least saying it vindicates him in the russia probe. of course, the facts don't bear that out. in fact, a democratic memo that will be voted on later today, according to the democrats, counters and contradicts a lot of what is in that republican

memo. they're going to be voting on that democratic response to the republican memo later today, and the white house indicating that the president will give it the same type of consideration that he gave to the republican memo. but andrea, all of this sort of underscores the mounting tensions not only between the president and democrats like adam schiff, but between the president and the fbi, the law enforcement community, and you have some republicans coming forward. trey gowdy, as well as chris stewart, you just played some of that, saying, look, this memo doesn't impact the russia probe at all. so president trump tried to make a very difficult case, even though he doesn't have the backing of his own party. of course, all of this really complicating efforts to try to keep the government open, set to run out of money later this week, andrea. >> and to carol, i want to go over the president's very personal, aggressive attack on adam schi iff today.

here you have the president of the united states going after -- here's his tweet, little adam schiff, who's desperate to run for higher office, is one of the biggest liars and leakers in washington, right up there with comey, warner, brennan, and clapper. adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. must be stopped. adam schiff responded saying, mr. president, i see you've had a busy morning of, quote, executive time" instead of tweeting false smears, the american people would appreciate it if you turned off the tv and helped solve the funding crisis, protected dreamers or, really, anything else. i've never seen this kind of attack from a president to a sitting member of congress. >> i find it interesting this hasn't happened earlier. the president going after adam schiff, because of the way, you know, adam schiff's position on the house intelligence committee and the stances he's taken have been completely at odds with not

just devin nunes but the white house's view on these issues. i also thought, you know, we've seen before when you look at that tweet, we've seen the president before make accusations without putting forward any evidence to substantiate that. that's what he did hear, saying adam schiff has been leaking information. notably, devin yununes is also talking about leaks coming out of the committee. despite him saying there's no coordination with the white house and that he's his own actor an all of these things, there does seem to be coordination of their talking points. but you know, this is a fight that the president wants to have. it's all part of this broader effort to try to ultimately discredit the mueller investigation. and i think that you will see that his attacks on democrats like adam schiff will only intensify. >> and robert costa, i hope

you've recovered from the celebration last night. but we want to hear more about that too. first, you're writing this weekend, you and your colleagues at "the washington post," that this is the republican party of law and order attacking the fbi, attacking the justice department in a way that we've never seen before. so there's been a role reversal of the two political parties. >> it could have consequences, andrea, in this year's midterm elections. speaking to someone from the philadelphia suburbs, brian fitzpatrick, who's a freshman running in a tough district, talking to charlie denton, retiring from the philadelphia area, they all say the republicans turn against the department of justice, against the fbi, could make some suburban voters in places like pennsylvania weary of the gop this year. they wonder if there's a cost to pay as they continue to try to support the president amid this probe. >> and i also wanted to bring to all of your attention the president's intervention just

before the game, he was in florida, he was apparently not watching the opening part of the game because during the national anthem, he was greeting high school cheerleaders and high school band there down near mar-a-lago. in any case, he tweeted a statement reinforcing his issue of the national anthem, reinjecting that. he said we owe these heroes the greatest respect for defending our libberty and orur american y of life, talking about the military. their sacrifice is stitched into each star and every stripe of our star spangled banner. robert, just the fact that he was again resurrecting this issue when the protest, the kneels protest had everything to do with police brutality, black lives matter, and nothing to do with our military, with the flag, or any of that, it just seemed unnecessarily intrusive

to critics. >> intrusive, to be sure. he embraces the culture and the culture wars in a way that most previous presidents have not. but he sees this kind of play, this kind of statement as a way to really rally his own base. it's the nfl controversy. it's even his attacks against the institutions of justice in this country. he believes the skepticism of major sports, the skepticism of major institutions all plays into his political strategy to be anti-establishment. how this all unfolds this year as voters decide what it all means, it remains to be seen. but it is an aggressive position by the president when it comes to these sorts of issues. >> and kristen welker, is there any hint yet as to what the president will do about the democratic memo, the rebuttal to the republican memo, which is going to be voted on around 5:00 in house intelligence this afternoon. >> we've been talking to white

house officials about that, andrea, since friday, frankly, when the republican memo was released. how will the president approach this memo? they are very insistent that if this, in fact, does get voted out of committee, the president will give it the exact same consideration that he gave to the republican memo. what does that mean? well, it was reviewed by his legal counsel here. it was reviewed by national security officials before they made a final determination about what, if anything, would be redacted and ultimately they didn't add to any further redaxs made by the fbi. but that is the white house's position at this point. now again, we did try to shout some questions at the president undoubtedly about this memo. we didn't get any responses. we'll keep trying throughout the day, andrea, because it would be important to hear from him on this matter. >> and just to say to all of you eagles fans, and to all of the city of philadelphia, we'll have a lot more on the game later, but robert to you, it must have

been an incredible night in the city of brotherly love. >> it was. i watched the game from bucks county, where i grew up. andrea, you're still a legend there from your coverage of frank rizzo. whenever i bring you up, they say she's a legend, a philly reporter. >> an honorary philadelphian today. it's great to be part of the team. thanks so much. thanks to all of you for starting us off. and leanon panetta, former whit house chief of stuff, former budget chair, remembering way back. i can only imagine how you feel watching another deadline this week, another deadline for a potential shutdown, which we know the democrats don't want to even deal with after what happened last time. but the fact that there's no agreement on immigration and no agreement on any of these budget issues, is this going to be another short-term fix? >> oh, i don't think there's any question but that they have not resolved all of these issues. they don't seem to be able to

resolve these issues. and so the country is going to face another short-term continuing resolution. we're going to go on for another few weeks. i think this is totally irresponsible because here we are more than halfway through a new fiscal year, and they still have not approved a budget for this fiscal year. it really damages the ability of our defense department to be able to do what it needs to do to prepare for all of these crises we're confronting. it undermines programs throughout the government because there's total uncertainty about what the budget is going to be. this is no way to run the ship. >> and speaking of no way to run the ship, what is your reaction to the president on twitter today accusing -- basically accusing adam schiff of breaking the law, of violating classification rules? >> well, we've seen this

president operate now for over a year, and when he feels he's in trouble, he has to strike out at people. that's his no dmodus operandi. if he thinks for some reason someone is very credible in the attacks they're making, he will go after them on a personal basis. i think that's what he's doing with adam schiff. it shows. it's just -- you know, it's an indication that this president cannot rise above it. he cannot accept the fact there's going to be an ongoing investigation no matter what he says or what he tweets, and that his better position, frankly, would be to say, let's find the truth here and find out exactly what happened. instead, he throws a lot of dust in the air. he attacks people personally. he thinks that is the way to defend himself. on the contrary, i think it just

shows him for being weaker as a result. >> what do you think of the way devin nunes is running the house intelligence committee and frankly the way the speaker of the house, paul ryan, has empowered him? >> well, i've been saying this for a while, but i have never seen washington as dysfunctional as it is today. i think both republicans and democrats find it very difficult to try to work together, to have trust in one another, and so it is extremely partisan. the result is that everything they're doing is extremely partisan. in the matter of this investigation, very frankly, they ought to rise above it. this is a very important investigation. the intelligence committee is supposed to be bipartisan. that's the way it was created to

be so that republicans and democrats could do proper oversight over highly classified intelligence information. instead now, what has happened as a result of the chairman's actions and others, it's become very partisan. i think to a large extent, it undermines one of the key elements of our national security, which is a bipartisan intelligence committee that is looking for the truth. >> devin nunes was on fox this morning and was ignoring the statement that papadopoulos was the origin, not that controversial dossier, of the fisa warrant against carter page. this is what he had to say about papadopoulos and what had happened where he first revealed to an australian ambassador and then that got communicated to the cia and then to the fbi.

>> look, getting drunk in london and talking to diplomats, saying that you don't like hillary clinton is really -- i think it's kind of scary our intelligence agencies would take that and use it against american citizens. >> can you address that as a former cia director? >> you know, i always get the sense it goes back to my attorney days. it's an old saying that if the law is not on your side, you argue the facts. if the facts aren't on your side, you argue the law. and if the law and the facts are not on your side, to you take your shoe and beat it on the table. that's the impression i get here. because there's a concern about how this investigation is going, they're beating their shoe on the table and making all kinds of allegations that simply are

not founded in the truth. if they were interested in the truth, and that really is what they should be interested in, which is the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth, they would have approached this as most committees used to do in a bipartisan way. both republicans and democrats investigating this issue, looking at the evidence, having the fbi testify before them has to what was involved in this application, having the fisa judge come before them to testify what, in fact, influenced him to go ahead with this application. they would have conducted the kind of investigation that committees are supposed to conduct. instead, they relied on a memo done by a staff member and very frankly, staff members are not elected to their job. it is the elected members of that committee who are supposed to come together and investigate these kinds of issues. that's not happening, and that i

think is a concern for the american people and for our system of governing. >> leon panetta, thank you so much. thanks very much, mr. secretary, for being with us today. and law and disorder. president trump's unprecedented war with the justice department. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." that's next on msnbc. than our name suggests. we're an organic tea company. a premium juice company. a coconut water company. we've got drinks for long days. for birthdays. for turning over new leaves. and we make them for every moment in every corner of the country. we are the coca-cola company, and we're proud to offer so much more.

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what do you think is going to be the long-term impact of this attack on the fbi, the justice department, and to a certain extent the intelligence

community? >> well, it certainly undermines the ability of the fbi to represent itself as an independent, objective, and honest organization. both the american people as well as the counterparts overseas. i think it's one of the real institutions that we need to rely on when there are serious questions about whether or not there have been violations of law by individuals, high up in this administration. >> former cia director john brennan on "morning joe." he's now a new nbc news/msnbc intelligence analyst, on the dangers of president trump's attacks on the fbi and justice department. this as attorney general jeff sessions departed from his prepared text on friday to praise rod rosenstein but also issued a memo to the troops which seemed to be ambivalent about whether or not they had done wrong. joining me now, msnbc national security and former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. and msnbc justice and security analyst, matt miller. welcome, both. frank, to you, how were you

interpreting the effect of this unprecedented republican political war by many republicans, not all, against the justice department and the fbi, led by the president? >> there's really no other way to interpret this than it's absolutely political in origin. it's absolutely based on self-interest over the interest of national security. it's ignoring long-term, irreparable damage that can be done to the trust the people have to have in their key law enforcement and intelligence institutions, and it's deeply wounding to the men and women of the fbi who come to work every day and really view their ceo, the president, as undermining their very mission. >> and the fbi director, christopher wray, did a video message. we have the text of it. he didn't released video. he had a message that said in part, i stand fully committed to our mission. i stand by our shared determination to do our work independently and by the book. i stand with you.

talk is cheap. the work you do is what will endure. that was a very strong, very pointed message, matt miller. >> it was an important message for him to send given the context. not just that the fbi and justice department are under attack from the hill. we've seen that before, the fbi and justice department are not immune from political fights. but from the president himself, he's attacked the integrity of the department, both publicly and privately. when that happens, leaders at the department, either the attorney general, the deputy, or the director of fbi, have two choices. they can kind of cower and not say anything, as jeff sessions unfortunately has done too often, or they can stand up for their troops. it was good to see chris wray stand up for the troops in the way he did friday. we really need to see more of that out of the department's leaders. >> now, unsurprisingly but very pointedly, jim comey also was tweeting on friday after the nunes memo came out, asking rhetorically, that's it? dishonest and misleading memo

wrecked the house intel committee, destroyed trust with intelligence community, damaged relationship with fisa court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an american citizen. for what? doj and fbi must keep doing their jobs. frank, what are you hearing from rank and file? >> well, they appreciate mr. comey's comment, but really what they're incredulous at within the fbi is that the american public at least a percentage of the american public is actually buying into this nonsense. if you look essentially at the allegations in the republican memo, you've got the notion that christopher steele was a paid informant. oh, my. the majority of the fbi's informants are often compensated in some way. you've got an allegation that christopher steele was biased. he actually didn't want trump to become president. virtually every source i've ever worked in my 25-year career had some bias, whether it was a shia against a sunni, whether somebody just wanted cash or a

reward for the information they provided. they're all biased. they're sources. the key is whether you can vet their information, whether they've been reliable in the past. and then this notion that christopher steele was terminated as a source because he went public about his relationship with the fbi. again, does that have anything to do with the voracity of the information he already provided? so the rank and file of the fbi are sitting there going, who's buying into this? why is this actually kwoworking this strategy the white house is putting out? >> they've got a big megaphone. one of them is a very friendly network. this was an interview where our friend tried to get to a key issue, did devin nunes ever read all the facts, the underlying affidavit behind the fisa warrant? take a look at this. >> did you read the actual fisa applications? >> no, i didn't. and this has been one of these bogus news stories that have been put out. so the agreement we made with the department of justice was to create a reading room and allow

one member and two investigators to go over and review the documents. i thought the best person on our committee would be the chairman of the oversight committee, trey gowdy, who has a long career as a federal prosecutor, to go and do this. >> and brett asked exactly the right question. the fact is that trey gowdy, after reading the underlying material, said that he did not think that the gop memo, as written, undercut the mueller investigation or had anything to do, in fact, with it. >> that was an important for trey gowdy to say, although i'm still perplexed if he believed that, why he signed off on this memo. it's pretty clear now, and we'll find out for sure if the democratic memo becomes public, that it was misleading in the way it described that warrant. i want to pick up on one thing frank said about the damage we're seeing to the fbi and justice department. morale is clearly a problem, but the more damaging problem, and i think this is what you really hear from him, when 30%, 35%,

40%, whatever percentage of the public the president is able to don vin convince, when they start believing that, it has very damaging effects on fbi agents and prosecutors' ability to do their jobs. it means people who sit on juries won't believe what prosecutors say, what fbi agents say on the stand. these attacks have a political ramify ki r ramification right now in realtime, but they have a long-term damaging harm to these institutions. >> and it really undercuts all the reforms post-hoover that great fbi leaders like william webster and others have inculcated into the culture of the institution. frank, thanks so much for being with us. matt miller as well. and dividing lines. not all republicans agree with the president about the memo and say that it does not vindicate him from the russia probe. stay with us. more on that coming up.

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i actually don't think it has any impact on the russia probe. there's going to be a russia probe even without a dossier.

>> this memo has frankly nothing at all to do with the special counsel. >> bob mueller should be allowed to turn over every rock, pursue every lead so that we can have trust in knowing what actually the russians did or did not do. >> so you don't agree with president trump when he says this vindicates him in the entire russia investigation? >> i don't. i don't. >> as devin nunes is threatening more investigations to come, including the state department, there's a growing divide among republicans on his own committee about that controversial memo. joining me now, michael steele, former chair of the republican party, and msnbc political analysis. and stephanie cutter, former deputy senior adviser to president obama. welcome, both. michael steele, the party is increasingly divided. it's not only john mccain now, but there are other republicans, including on the intel committee, trey gowdy is a tell as well, who don't agree with what devin nunes is doing. >> and trey is significant because he actually read the underlying documents. so for him to tweet out on friday that this in no way

upsets the mueller investigation and that should proceed and then to have william herd, congressman from texas sunday, reinforce that message, you're seeing something evolve that's always been there, andrea, as you probably know from your reporting, how the members really feel on the back story. they're now feeling a little more confident to go out because, guess what, this thing did not land the way it had been promised it would land. and folks over the weekend have been able to digest it. it's not just twitter and facebook. it's actual americans out there who are saying, yeah, this was kind of a dud here. what else is there? >> and it's not only the what else, it's what's in it because what's in it says that the probe began with what papadopoulos said back in june to an australian ambassador in london. that preceded the dossier. in fact, the fisa warrant preceded the dossier being turned over. >> what happened -- two things happened. one, the president shot himself in the foot by confirming this investigation was not based on the dossier. there was a lot more going on.

the intelligence sources have always said that. but the second thing going on here is that the president is really trying to put his base on notice with the release the memo campaign that they should be skeptical of anything that comes out of the fbi and the special prosecutor. so you know, did he achieve that goal? potentially, because people aren't going to take the time to read that memo. but the reality is for those that do, they realize the president was really falling on a sword, admitting the investigation is not based on the dossier. >> and one other quick point here is that he had an unwitting ally, the russian bots, pushing the release the memo meme. so the russians are still at it. >> unwitting. it might not be so unwitting. >> and that's the irony of it, to have republican members on the intel committee go out and push this thing, knowing that it's the russians behind it, the ones actually pushing this out into the public. >> that's why john mccain said

over the weekend that we are, you know, republicans on the committee and this president are doing putin's work for him by releasing this memo. >> at the same time, john mccain has been busy working with chris coons. we were just on a call with chris coons before i came on the air explaining their proposal, which they hope will be the basis for more negotiations, which is a cleaner daca bill which doesn't have the wall, money for defense, and does not have the family migration issue, which the president calls chain migration, or the visa lottery. is there any chance at all? >> potentially. it's good to see john mccain's reasoned voice on immigration out there. you know, i think if any type of reasonableness comes over this house and senate, they'll realize that they do need to fund the military, and we can't fund the military if we're spending billions of dollars on a wall we don't need. so it becomes a choice. do you fund the military, or do you fund something that is actually not going to impact our

national security because it's a political promise of this president? >> let me quickly also ask you about one other political situation, which is taking a look at the number of democrats trying to run in the primaries, in particular in california. and that could really disadvantage democrats because that's the so-called jungle primary, where if they divide up the vote, republicans could end up with the top slots. >> particularly you're looking at districts like congressman issa's district, which is where you're having eight or nine democrats get in that primary. given that only the top two in a general primary will go to the general election, meaning that you could wind up having the democrats split their vote enough that two republicans wind up being the potential nominees. so what the democrats have to do, just from a purely party perspective, is they have to begin to get their folks on the ground to sort of whittle down that field and identify two or three, which is tough to do.

>> that sounds so undemocratic in both big d and little d. >> but it's not a question pof deciding who will win the nomination. you can look at a field of candidates and go, i'm sorry, you're just taking up space, and the other candidates who have a fighting chance to win the district. that's a tough call for parties to make, but think do it all the time. you can't let things unfold that way. as we've seen in previous elections, you get candidates who get the nomination that will not win it for you. >> final word? >> i'm so glad the rnc chair is giving us advice about how to win a race. >> i've been there. >> look, competitive primaries are great. in california, it's a particular issue with jungle primaries. i think the party out there just needs to keep an eye on this, but ultimately, you can't pull back an enthusiastic party that really wants to take back the house. we have a great chance at it. >> to be continued. stephanie, great to see you. >> thank you. >> michael as well.

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>> to be here with my daughter, my wife, my family, my teammates, the city, we're very blessed. >> they did it. the philadelphia eagles won their first super bowl title last night in minneapolis, in case you hadn't noticed, beating the new england patriots 41-33 with some incredible moments in a game that was suspenseful, especially given tom brady's record, until the very end. >> going for it all, into the end zone, and it is caught! >> brady wide open, could not make the play. >> caught, foles, touchdown! >> this play call has a chance to be remembered as one of the all-time greats, just going for it. >> the ball is out! and philadelphia has it. >> overnight, philly fans flooded the streets in euphoria, swarming broad street, climbing the poles that were unsuccessfully greased to try

and stop them, celebrating their underdogs who had overtaken the new england favorites, even after losing their first-string quarterback to injury midseason. their back-up quarterback, nick foles, becoming of course the mvp. nbc's morgan radford was there overnight. it's great to see you. how crazy was that last night? >> reporter: andrea, when i tell you this street was filled with thousands of people, none of us could sleep last night because everyone was chanting their fight song, but we just got official word that that parade is actually going to be held on thursday. these fans are already waiting to welcome back that team. they're actually scheduled to arrive in the city today, about 2:00 p.m. but andrea, everyone we've spoken to here today says this is their moment. they feel like last night, that team took this city from being the underdog to the top dog. thanks in no small part, as you mentioned, to that mvp quarterback nick foles. he gave a really emotional

interview today, talking not only about the sacrifices his family made to get him where he is today but also to talk about the importance of failure and failing forward and how meaningful those lessons were. also to helping him appreciate that moment. and that's what really struck me here, andrea. i'm not from philly, but every single person i spoke to here said, look, you know, when we hear about players like nick foles, when we hear his story, it's kind of reflective of the story we're hearing about the city and other members of that team. they said this team in particular gives so much back to the city, but it's not only the amount they give back, it's the type of work that they do. they do a lot in terms of criminal justice, lots in terms of building equality, and the words also on everyone's lips have been meek mill. you saw the players give a nod to the incarcerated philadelphia rapper meek mill who they said was a symbol of what's wrong in our justice system, when he got sent back to jail because of a probation violation. so a lot of the issues, that's what fans are talking about and feeling like this is their

moment where you had this man who was a surprise superhero out of this story come back and this team, they said, carried the city on its back. andrea? >> and one of the city leaders, former district attorney, former mayor, former governor ed rendell was flying home. let's take a look at that flight with ed rendell. >> e-a-g-l-e-s, eagles! >> and we can't let you go without showing my very favorite commercial from the whole night. this is a tribute to the giants, also in the division, and of course having a hapless season as well as others in the division. but this is a tribute to eli manning and of course beckham. ♪ i've had the time of my life ♪ ♪ i've never felt

this way before ♪ >> yeah, you got to give them props for that. thank you so much, morgan radford. thanks for being there. i guess you'll be there thursday. free beer for everyone over 21, if you're not on the air. >> reporter: we'll be waiting. >> thanks to you. and coming up, sideline, the democra democra democrats hoping to counter devin nunes with their own memo. will it ever see the light of day? that's next. stay with us. time to bask... in low prices!

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president trump today escalating his attacks on the ranking democrat on house to intelligence committee name checking congressman adam schiff on twitter. democrats try to get the republican control committee to release their counter memo today. let's get the inside scoop on all of this from peter baker and msnbc political analyst jeff mason. welcome both. jeff, do you think that the white house from your reporting is going to permit the schiff memo to come out because the president can block it. >> indeed he can. i spoke to a white house official like with the other memo this memo would need to go through the same process, needs to go through the intelligence committee, they need to make a

decision there. needs to be looked at for intelligence, for methods and sources and he also mentioned that the white house hadn't seen it yet. that president trump with the previous memo had indicated sort of where he was going but hadn't actually seen it until it was delivered to the white house on monday evening. and that's the case with this one as well. >> peter baker, the fact is that some of what has been reported even in the memo itself, the memo's language about papadopoulos undercuts the basic argument the memo would invalidate the mueller probe. >> yeah. the republican memo speaks to the origin of the russia probe. speaks to one warrant. made clear that the probe had been going on before this fisa case warrant was first submitted by the justice department. it doesn't invalidate the overall probe and doesn't say anything to questions of obstruction of justice which are still be examined by special

counsel. it does put attention on the conduct of the fbi, justice department and raises question of bias. those are questions the white house wants to have out there because it then seems to in their view discredits investigators. i never met anybody under investigation liked their investigators. the question is whether the devin nunes memo told the full story. >> a lot of people were surprised by reince priebus' comments. he told chuck todd that he never felt and using the world felt as a lawyerly way to describe it, never felt the president was about to fire mueller. let's play a clip. >> i never felt of all the things that we went through in the west wing, i never felt that the president of going to fire

the special counsel. >> it's possible the president uttered the words i want mueller fired, i want mueller gone but you never -- >> i never heard that. i never heard that. >> the sentiment was expressed? >> it was very clear by the president's own words that he was concerned about the conflicts of interest that he felt that the special counsel had and made that very clear. perhaps someone interpreted that to mean something else. >> jeff, i thought that he was very defensive of the president in that interview. >> yes. and for somebody who sort of got pushed aside -- >> fired. >> exactly. quite remarkable. he was very careful with the language he used in discussing what was discussed about the russia probe and the leader of that probe. >> i know, peter, the "new york times" was the first to report that there was the threat last june where the president really wanted to fire mueller the. do you think that what reince priebus said contradicts that or was he just listening to it in a

different way or not hearing what the president was telling some of his outside advisers? >> reince priebus might not have felt the president of going to fire the special counsel but the white house counsel did. he's told robert mueller's team that the president made very clear to him that he was to call rod rosenstein the deputy attorney general and tell him to push out robert mueller. so, you know, reince priebus may have a different interpretation. the white house counsel was given the instruction by the president. so whether reince priebus wants, was part of that or not, whether he was part of the same conversation or not part of that conversation, we don't know. but, you know, right now the special counsel has that, that testimony, that information from the white house counsel. >> very briefly, do you think that the white house has the political spine to try to kill the democratic rebuttal?

>> i think that they know what kind of fallout would come from that. also the fact that speaker ryan has spoken in favor of letting it out. puts pressure on the white house as well to follow suit. >> jeff mason, it's great to have you here. peter baker as well. thank you both so much. more ahead. we'll be right back. >> what's the secret into turning a no to a yes. do you know how to network like a champ? when is a good time to have some fun in the office. i've got some great answers to all of these questions which might help you run a better business. check out the your business page on nbcnews.com for an exclusive online series to help you work smart, grow fast and go further. so that's the idea. what do you think? i don't like it. oh. nuh uh. yeah. ahhhhh. mm-mm. oh. yeah. ah. agh. d-d-d... no. hmmm. uh... huh. yeah. uh... huh.

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chris jansing is up next. >> the adoptive daughter of philadelphia who happened to be cheering the eagles. looks a little green on. thanks to all eagles fans. our good friends, everybody who is celebrating. we got a team of supporters here. good afternoon from msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm jannance in for craig melvin. another memo, this week it's not the republican memo on the russia investigation. it's the democratic response. president trump says the first memo vindicates him and now he holds the power. he decides whether this new one will come out. plus, party of trump. republicans may have some different opinions about that memo but a lot of them are following the president's lead on the russia investigation. and three days away. the clock is ticking because as this all unfolds the government is facing the possibility of another shutdown in just days unless