have seen it coming by now and addressed it. there have been local police chiefs saying all year that they have fewer hispanic women coming in and reporting domestic violence because they are worried about police departments. i.c.e. responds they should come in any way and report. they don't understand the effect or refusing to understand the effect this is having on millions of people's daily lives. >> thanks for being with me. that is "all in" for this evening. >> good evening, chris. thanks for joining us this hour. happy monday. wasn't really a market crash, it was more like a market drunken veering into a ditch and that ditch was icy and couldn't get out and it had to call a tow truck, better metaphor, i think. on friday it seemed like just another bit of surreal in a day on washington when republicans and congress and the trump white

house had a political implosion, the worst day on the russia investigation that didn't involve someone's indictment or a guilty plea on that same day on friday, it seemed like a little bit of news god practical joking that the dow jones that day dropped not just significantly, not just by over 600 points, it dropped specifically by 666 points. it dropped by 666. the number of the beast. i mean, the number of the beast obviously exists in the bible and exists on jared kushner's midtown office building and existed in the wild on that market news on friday, which just seemed so strange. alongside that gigantic political news day. today i'll take your number of the beast from friday and raise you another 1,175 points off the dow. at one point today the dow was

down almost 1600 points. just today. i don't know if it's better or worse there was a weekend over a 2100-point swing. over 8% of market value lost. today alone is the biggest point drop on the dow ever. now why did this happen? does this mean? a lot of people will tell you they know, nobody really knows. the market speaks in numbers, not in paragraphs. but today we did get a new chair of the federal reserve after president trump fired janet yellen for reasons that have never been totally explained. there are also worries about inflation that could have been factor. it's able that what happened today was just a market correction that the market was artificially high and it has been brought down to a less bubbly size and there isn't one thing that caused it. there have also been recent

revelations about the one very large, very significant policy that has been enacted by this new republican congress and this new republican president. in fact, it was stunning to see the split screen today while the president was in ohio bragging about the impact of his tax bill while networks covering his speech were also covering in little boxes or in split screens covering the dow shedding hundreds and hundreds of points as he spoke about his tax bill. the tax bill is the biggest change to the u.s. tax code in a generation. we've learned over the last few days that it will provide a multi billion-dollar wind fall to multiple individual oil companies. seriously. exxon alone is looking at a $6 billion wind fall just from that one bill, just that one company. and that kind of news is great if you happen to be an oil company. but many at that magnitude, money by the barrel going out the door to corporations,

multiple individual corporations getting multi billion-dollar wind falls, that kind of money has to come from somewhere and one of the revelations of the last few days is that the government is about to hit the debt ceiling sooner than it was going to, a month sooner because of the tax bill. nobody in the republican congress or trump administration liked to dwell on the fact their bill is projected to add $1.5 trillion to the debt and deficit. so i understand as a matter of messaging, they like to avoid that but appears they didn't plan for that consequence of this policy they have just passed. and so having just finished one government shutdown already, which happened on the one-year anniversary of this president taking office, the only time we had a government shut down with one marty in control of the house and senate and white house while we are facing another government shut down thursday night this week, we are also now looking at a very fast oncoming train, which is the debt ceiling

that the government has to actively do something to avoid hitting. nobody has much faith in their ability to avert disasters like that, scheduled shutdowns. i think people have less faith in their ability to avert things when they turn out things faster than they planned for. we don't know exactly what blew up the market today. again, what was the largest single point loss on the dow in the history of days on the dow. but i think it's important to keep in mind despite the weekend happening in between the two market sessions, in terms of when the markets friday satan wrote 666 on its forehead and today double that number dropped. so this is a two-day sell off that is of significant

magnitude. that means overnight everybody is going to be watching the asian markets and european markets and worrying about tomorrow's opening bell in new york, worrying tomorrow is going to be sell off day number three. meanwhile, just to settle everybody's nerves, it's about to be memo day again. >> the reality is that as this investigation has progressed, our own perhaps more significantly the investigation by bob mueller as more and more individuals have either been indicted or plead guilty with the investigation and evidence mounted both in terms of the issue of collusion and obstruction. there is a rising sense of panic clearly within the white house, and as well on the hill and as a result, we see a tactic we have often seen in criminal cases where when the facts are increasingly incriminating of the defendant, there is an effort to put the government on trial.

>> adam schiff of california, the top democrat in the intelligence committee speaking to reporters tonight on capitol hill as he announced that as he put it quote, the five-day clock is ticking. the white house tonight has started that five-day clock from ticking because they have been sent a classified memo written by schiff and others and the democrats say their memo outs the effort by republican members of congress to try to block the fbi's criminal investigation into the president and his campaign by releasing miss leading information and the wayist beway i it's been conducted. they scored an own goal with the much toted release of the classified memo they promised over a period of weeks, they promised would derail the entire russia investigation. they probably realize they would have been better off never actually releasing the thing,

continuing to hype it existed but never letting anybody see it. essentially, this was -- this was put up or shut up moment. this was a put up or shut up moment when putting up was not the better of the two options. the central claim of their weeks of hype, their whole campaign to release the memo is somehow this mel ev memo would prove the dossier by an mi 6 officer christopher steele, the campaign was based around the idea this memo would prove that the steele dossier is what led to the whole russia investigation. now the problem with that argument with having created that expectation about the secret memo is the secret memo actually conceded that it was not the christopher steele dossier. the fbi started a counter intelligence probe into the trump campaign's ties with russia because of what turned out to be well-pounded counter intelligence concerns about a

particular trump campaign guy who didn't turn up in the dossier. a guy christopher steele said he never heard of when the fbi went to him and asked him if he knew anything about this particular trump guy. that was the first big problem. we're going to prove this thing and here is our memo that disproves that thing. field at that level. then the memo claimed out right in black and white that to the extent the fbi had sited the steel dossier in this application for a search warrant on a different advisor to the trump campaign, republican memo said to the extent they referred to the steel dossier, they said the fbi hadn't told the judge at the time that dossier came from a political source, it was opposition research on donald trump. well, as soon as the republican memo came out on friday with that claim in black and white, democrats started crying foul insisting that that specifically was not true. they said the judge was told

about the political orgigin's steel material. then over the weekend, "the washington post" confirmed with multiple sources that in fact, the judge had been told that the source of the dossier was political opposition research. then finally this morning the republican author of this memo congressman devin nunes, the memo that said the judge was never told about the political origins of the steel memo. he confirmed the judge was told. so the dossier started the fbi investigation, no it didn't. the judge wasn't told about the political origins. the republican memo on friday after weeks of hype, it -- a lot of people said it was a dud. i don't think it was a dud. did you play with fireworks when

you were a kid? did your parents tell you was the most dangerous thing playing with fireworks? your protection. my dad always told me about fireworks, be ware of the apparent dud because it might not be a dud, might be slow. and sometimes more dangerous to have something not go off initially than it is just to have a big exciting firework where you know what it's going to do. this wasn't so much a dud. it was a firework with a faulty fuse. so it didn't provide the show it was supposed to when you thought it was going to but it did end up posing a danger to the people who were trying to set it off. democrats now say they plan to use the republican memo fiasco from friday against republicans, against congressional republican incumbents when they are all up for reelection. congratulations, you released the memo. it will be used in a million attack ads against you. it remains remarkably an open

question as to whether the white house itself was involved in coming up with this scheme. the scheme to release classified information to try to exonerate the white house and indict the fbi in the russia investigation. so far, neither the house republicans who created this nor the white house will answer directly when asked if there was white house involvement in this whole scheme in the creation of this document, and the whole idea behind it. democrats are starting to realize they are on to something with this line of questioning and into this evening they are continuing to push it. >> i also want to say that my colleague again and repeatedly asked the chairman whether he or any of his staff had consulted with, coordinated, conception this memo in combination with the white house. we know after all the chairman embarked on a similar effort to coordinate a campaign early on in the investigation and once

again, mr. nunes refused to answer the questions. at the very end of the hearing, he gave a very lawyerly written response or read a written response saying that the white house had not been involved in the actual drafting of the memo but in terms of whether it was coordinated with the white house or they were consulted or strategized the concept, he refused to answer the questions. >> this remains an open question. i thought this would be settled by now. i thought they would be able to just be clear with people. no, we didn't have anything to do with it. this is an open question. was this not just a congressional republican effort to defend the white house by ginning up this false controversy? this the white house to gin up this false controversy involving the fbi? with an open justice inquiry, that would be a very, very high

risk move for this white house. particularly given this other new outstanding issue they created by trying to pull off this stunt and that is legal president. when the president decided to e declassify that memo, he would be able to fire everybody. everything. when the president made this decision to release this classified memo, that may very well have created a new legal precedent around the release of classified information of this type. the president personally may have essentially set a whole new standard for the public release of fisa related information and classified information of this type on the basis of the president's decision friday to declassified that republican memo, "the new york times" today has already filed a motion requesting the public release of the information on which this

memo was based because the president has established a new standard for when and why and how information like that gets to the public. did president trump know he was making new law about highly classified material when he made this decision he would release the republican memo before he had read it? did he know he was doing that? i have no idea but it appears he may very well have done that and that revelation ends up being really important tonight as the white house receives a new de democratic men randmorandaemora. it's based on that same classified information that was the basis of that republican memo last week. this democratic memo, this -- this is going to be a big deal this week. a week ago tonight all the republicans on that committee voted that the democratic memo shouldn't be released.

today the republicans on the committee changed their mind and voted it should be released. all right. so it was a unanimous vote on the intelligence committee. democrats and republicans voting to send the democratic memo on the same subject as the ones the republicans released on friday and voted unanimously to send it to the white house where president trump has five days to announce whether he has any objections to releasing the memo the same way he released the republican one on friday. it would be awkward for him to refuse to release the democratic memo. he made the decision to release it based on the same classified information. he promised somebody at the state of the union he would release it before we now know he had even read it. if the president nevertheless decides he wants to block the publication of the democrats document, which is based on the same classified info, that will be awkward. i don't think the president minds awkward. what could the democrats do?

they could, if the president blocks them, try to bring the matter to the house of representatives that could vote to over ride the president's decision and there by release this document from the democrats without the president's permission. some of the republicans would vote to do so. all the republicans on the intelligence committee voted this should be out. so this is -- i mean, the memo thing on friday was a tremendous fiasco after two weeks after incredible republican and fox news hype. this next stage of it, this democratic memo which is being reviewed, this will be five days of interesting stand off. one of the democrats behind that strategy, one of the democrats intimately involved in that process and fight will be joining us live in just a second to talk about what the implications are and how they will approach this strategically now that the president has the president's document. i'll leave you with one final

matter on this -- one final point on this same matter. the basis for all these shenanigans, the subject of the republicans memo on friday, the subject of the rebuttal men mo from the democrats, the basis of all this toing and froing from both sides is carter page. the republican argument bottom line is the russia investigation is bogus. there never should have been fbi counter intelligence interest, let alone investigation or court ordered surveillance of a trump advisor like carter page. >> the director of the fbi is well aware of my concerns about mr. page and i don't believe somebody like mr. page should be a target of the fbi. >> congressman devin nunes has been leading the charge. i don't believe mr. paige should be the target.

"time magazine" said he was an advisor to the kremlin. first reported this weekend at "time magazine" in august 2013 carter page wrote a letter in a despite of a manuscript but he bragged to them in this letter over the past half year, i had the privilege to serve as an informal advisor to the staff of the clem lykremlin. august 2014. two months before then, june 2013 is when the fbi paid a visit to carter page to counter intelligence officers from the fbi visiting him in person to tell hill thm he had been handi documents over to a russian spy ring in new york city trying to recruit him. now, you would expect that, you know, that the outcome of a visit like that from the fbi might be to make a person feel very self-conscious, worried or

mortified in a sense they had unwittingly become the target of russian spies and been duped by their spy operation and they have been unwittingly handing over documents to the kremlin for intelligence purposes to use against our country. that's what you might expect would be the product of a visit like that but apparently in carter page's place in 2013 he saw that visit from the fbi as confirmation that he had been working with the kremlin. which was then worth bragging about, at least to publishers within weeks of the fbi visit. i realize that we are still very much engaged in this fight about the surveillance of carter page. the origins and the congre congressional investigations into the russia matter that will all still continue to be fought over including tonight and especially i think over the course of this week. that will get hotter and not cooler over the next five days but at its heart, ask yourself

this question, why did the trump campaign hire carter page of all people to be one of their five foreign policy advisors? no political profile. no national security profile. no foreign policy profile at all but a russian intelligence problem and a serious one. out of all the people in the world, why did they pick him? and george papadopoulos. and mike flynn. and paul manafort. those were all weird choices. why did they all end up on the trump campaign? do they all have in common? we'll be right back. ♪ let your inner light loose with one a day women's. ♪ a complete multivitamin specially formulated with key nutrients plus vitamin d for bone health support. your one a day is showing.

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we don't talk about committee business. [ laughter ] >> we don't talk about committee. you know the rules. we don't talk about committee business. one reporter said you did to fox today. pause and the other one goes and on friday. house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes giving

reporters the cold shoulder tonight and reporters giving it back to him moments after the coal mi committee voted to release the gop memo declassified on friday. the democratic version, the democratic rebuttal is at the white house where a five-day window has opened during which the president can decide if he wants to block its release or not and while we're following that story, we're following breaks news tonight about the critical question whether the president will be interviewed by special counsel robert mueller. lawyers for president trump advised him against sitting down for a wide-ranging interview with robert mueller. according to the new reporting, the lawyers that want the president not to sit down is john dowd and mr. dowd's deputy that you've probably seen on the fox news channel but apparently the president's lawyers are

divided. one of the few voices arguing for cooperating with mr. mueller is ty cobb, another russian lawyer for the president that works in the white house and is considered to be white house staff. i'll say i get the president's lawyers having varying advice for him on this subject but do they get to decide if the president wants to, and he said publicly he wants to, can he just over rule them and do it? and even if the president decides he doesn't want to and his lawyers don't want him to, does the special counsel have the ability to compel him to testify anyway? joining us is democratic congressman eric. thanks for being here. let me ask you about the democratic memo, you democrats on the house intelligence committee i understand have drafted that is essentially a rebuttal what republicans released on friday. is it fair to understand that on

friday? >> yes, it's a document we hoped would never see the light of the day. it's the only way i believe to cure the poisonous rhetoric. >> the white house, as i understand it, have a five-day window during which the president could decide to block the release of this information at least to block this information from being released by the same means are t the rep memo was blocked by. the president was telegraphing from disdain and anger. >> to be honest with the american people. he'll allow a memo free from edits. we asked the department of justice something republicans did not, which is to review the mel moe memo. we think the only an in this case dote to the undermining they have done is for the

american people to have a full picture of what happened and for us to move on and do our job and start reinterviewing witnesses. >> the way you're describing damage done by what republicans released on friday and the president okayed, if the president blocks your memo, blocks the release of it within his power to do so as far as the white house goes, i understand there is another path toward releasing this where the entire house would take a vote on releasing this matter and then it would have to be released directly. did you think that's the way things would go? >> i would expect devin nunes would ask colleagues to support that. rachel, i'm worried that a dangerous president is being set here by releasing information to the white house because they are giving the white house evidence that economists in the case.

we want our memo out there to give the full picture but we're giving subjects and witnesses an investigation evidence that investigators hold very, very close. i'm afraid that that is done intentionally so that the trump team knows what is out there and that's why they continue to pursue the selective release of committee transcripts and in informati information. >> do you believe the information they released are designed to or would have something that will do harm. >> no source and methods were disclosed. they were disclosed. the argument we're making is because they were publicly known because of press reporting, it's never been the practice to acknowledge sources and methods. his long-standing history as being a source was disclosed.

when we need people to come forward and be sources, they will think twice and worry their cooperation could be outed because of the political wins. >> one last question for you, sir, i understand that steve bannon, the man that used to run the trump campaign is issued a subpoena to appear before your committee. tomorrow this would be the second or third time to get him in behind closed doors for questioning. do you expect him to be there tomorrow? >> i do, rachel. i expect my coal lelleagues if does not show up to issue and start contempt proceedings because he is the only witness where they moved quite fast when he refused to answer questions, they gave him a subpoena within an hour. i don't know if that's because he made enemies with work he's done in the past but every witness should be shown that type of investigative interest but if he does not show up tomorrow or does not answer our questions, i think he needs to

be held in contempt. >> has his testimony been deconflicted with the mueller investigation? i understand there is sensitivity not trying to interfere. is the bannon testimony the subject of investigation with mueller's office in terms of him being cleared to testify? >> that's something ranking member schiff and mike conaway sort out. we're told the white house does not want him to talk. they are not asserting executive privilege. what they are doing is something worse. they are standing on no privilege saying he can't tell us anything that happened during the transition once he joined the white house and once he left the white house and so that is actually a privilege without any legal authority. >> congressman eric, appreciate your time tonight. >> lots to get to. very busy news night and we got somebody that's a really big deal for the interview. that's coming up. stay with us.

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there are a lot of things about this administration that would be absolute show stoppers, gone, over the top, stop everything scandals. what is happening now in this administration about fixed scandals at once and daily bursts of unprecedented behavior and the scandal that looms over everything else they do because

of the special counsel investigation and russia scandal. basically in this administration a lot of stuff that would be a scandal in every other scandal happens here every week. stuff would be blockbusters and we mark these things and then watch them pass. today for example, administration formally with drew the nomination for the new ambassador to singapore. the nominee was k.t. mcfarland a former fox news contributor and hired to be deputy advisor to mike flynn and decide that i had would move k.t. mcfarland to singapore instead. in the meantime, though, when flynn got indicted, the statement of the offense submitted to the court along with his guilty plea, they explained a bunch of details that we didn't know before about flynn's conversations with the russian government during the transition and learned that he lied to the fbi about those conversations and he did talk to the russians about sanctions,

even though he and everyone else in the white house lied publicly and said he didn't and we learned that flynn wasn't making those calls during the transition as a rogue actor. he was in contact with trump transition officials every step of the way. lots of people were in the loop by e-mail, e-mails that robert mueller has obtained discussing flynn having these conversations with russia about sanctions. now one of the ocfficials sendig e-mails with the russians was k.t. mcfarland. here is the problem with that. separate and apart from the criminal prosecution of general flynn. when k.t. mcfarland got nominated. she was flat out asked in her confirmation hearing if she had discussed conversations with general flynn. she had, of course, the transition team e-mails that mueller obtained proved that she had done so but she told the senate that she had not.

and in any other administration that would be an above the fold scandal for a long time, right? ambassador nominee and former deputy to disgrace national security advisor lies to senate is exposed by e-mails, the presidential transition didn't know would ever be handed over to prosecutors. you can see this spinning. you can m make g imagine in the this goes on for awhile. in any other administration, that's what it would be. because this is our life, i wonder if she'll go back to fox. do they have a spot on the weekend? that's one. the head of the ccdc resigned. the hud secretary used his job to steer business to his son and daughter-in-law and welcoming an investigation. the health secretary had to resign. congress didn't blink at that, didn't pretend to start an inquiry. the interior secretary not only makes poor sod run up to the roof and fly a special flag when he enters the headquarters, his

latest scandal is he's accused of intervening to stop indian tribe casinos after he got lobbied to do so by the rival casino operators, which is the plot of the movie happening now and it's ryan zinke. same black hat. the president's son's wedding planner is in charge of the urban and housing develop and the husband of a woman who does party planning for golf courses a handyman got moved into a senior headquarters job at the epa. the president said it should be viewed as treason that democrats didn't clap for him at the state of the union. it's hard to keep up with the kind of thing that would derail any normal presidency for awhile. and this one it's just a day's news. but there is one of these that is life or death and that has given birth to some truly, truly tremendous journalism and that story is next. (avo) if you've been struggling with belly pain

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there is a job in the world called special general for afghanistan, an office that does independent oversight on the money that the united states spends in afghanistan. the 17 years into our stay there. he is nobody's fool. his job is to ask questions like hey, what happened to those planes we paid millions of dollars for that never turned up anywhere and what about that police training center built so well with taxpayer dollars it literally melts when it rains? inspector general put out the 38th quarterly report just a few days ago, january 30th of this year and the first thing he had to report is that there is something new going on. the first time the defense department inspected him to stop releasing public unclassified data about what we're doing in afghanistan and how well or poorly its working. quote, this quarter the department of defense instructed

the special inspector general to not release to the public data on the number of districts controlled or influenced by the afghan government or by the insurgent or contested by both. the inspector general's office was informed that the defense department determined the most recent numbers are unclassified, nevertheless not releasable to the public. this development is troubling for a number of reasons, that is not the first time the inspector general's office was instructed not to release information and if you make your way to the bomb to the of the report on page 251 you'll se e in fact a number of reda redactions and you had a right to see but you can't see anywhere. trump scandal and trump administration failures really are different from most recent administrations.

he really is a different kind of president. but after president george w. bush started the war in afghanistan and president barack obama spent a long time working on getting us out of there but didn't, there is clearly something about this war that is intractable despite who the president is. the only political norm that trump can't actually break. so this new president who really is nothing like any other president we had before in someways, he is rolling into year 17 of that same war and he's talked trump like about mining afghanistan for profit or maybe putting the education secretary's little brother in charge of a private version of the war. okay. i mean, as president trump takes his own trump turn at the helm here and simultaneously moves to cut off the window into how well or poorly the military operations are doing there, big question, regardless of donald trump, does anybody know why we're still there. steve call spent 20 years at the

washington post up to and including his time as managing editor and won a politzer prize and another politzer prize for his book "ghost wars" the magnificent history of 9/11 and should have won another politzer prize for "private empire" in 2012 but got robbed and now he's written "directorate s." steve, honor to have you here. >> thanks for having me back. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> first of all, did you know when you started writing "goes w -- "ghost wars" you would write more? >> absolutely not. took me awhile to decide there was a second part worth doing because the world was in such chaos after september 11th, the war in iraq and the rest, i wasn't sure how to create a second volume. ten years later i dragged one

across the finish line. i'm glad about that. >> this is a reporting master work and i am a humble, huge fan of yours and everything you've worked on particularly at book length. what i find remarkable about this story is i feel like you do actually answer the question of why it's 17 years in afghanistan and nobody knows why we're there. essentially your answer is it's pakistan is the reason we're still there and that is something nobody has come close to solving. >> that's right. it confused us over and over again what our war was in afghanistan if the problems we most fear, alibi d-- calal qaed why were we sending so many to afghanistan and again and again president's confronted the truth about pakistan was both accepting large amounts of aid

and also sending militia in to kill our soldiers. how do you pressure them to stop doing that? if they are an unstable country with nuclear weapons you don't want to fall in the wrong hands, turns out there is a constraint there is only so much you can do. >> two very bleak bottom lines from that, i guess, if there is two they can't both be bottom lines but work with me. one is pakistan's involvement in the afghanistan war has been specifically designed to make sure that america's effort never succeeds, that american troops sacrifice in afghanistan never results in a settled outcome that america might want. so part of the reason we had a 17-year war there with no end and no point in terms of how we intend to end it is because pakistan wants that and they are closer and they can do it. the other bottom line that is very bleak is that their strategy of obtaining nuclear weapons worked in terms of making them untouchable and

normal national security terms. >> yeah, i think that's dead right. those are crucial insights as to why we have been grinding against the same problem without moving it for so long. pakistan is a sovereign pakistan is a sovereign country, it sees in afghanistan, american failure that destabilized its countries, its leaders were angry about the hubris america was bringing into their wars so they said we have to take care of our business here. and their view of afghanistan was not compatible with the american and nato vision of a constitutional democracy that would be al lied with the international community, including india, their arch enemy. the more the generals saw india's hand in the equation, the harder they worked to try to gain influence of their own.

>> there is a mike flynn factor in the book that's going to surprise people, can i ask you about that after the break? >> sure. >> we'll be right back with steve coll. (vo) i was born during the winter of '77. i first met james in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru. on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. does your bed do that? right now, save 50% on the ultimate limited edition bed. ends soon. visit sleepnumber.com fora store near you.

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afghanistan war is so long, this is the closest thing we have to an answer. i guess the thing that surprised me which is general michael flynn, general flynn was high ranking intelligence officer. you document his roll in the afghan war here in a way that will be eye opening to a lot of people who only know him because of his trump administration controversies. given your reporting on this book, what do you make of what happened to him? >> he was promoted above the level he was suited for when he was pointed to lead the intelligence agency. he spent years and years on the battlefield, he was trained as a tactical intelligence leader, a door kicker, how should we take this hill, all this stuff he was effective at. but when he got to washington he got into a system where he had strong views about what should be done but he didn't have the

subtly or experience and when he got fired during the obama administration it infuriated him and set him on a course that i can't explain but was difference than the military. >> nobody comes off well in the book. spoiler alert. state department comes off marginally as having a better understanding sometimes, are you concerned about the atrophy of the state department we've seen under tillerson? >> deeply. we keep going to afghanistan and saying we can't win this war military, certainly not against the taliban, and generals say this, not just civilians or state department officers. yet we keep having military action to compliment that or replace it we need a state department that's out negotiating for whatever possible in a difficult reason. >> and has smart people around

that know their stuff. >> yes. >> steve coll, the author of the new book "directorate s" which will win all the awards it should be up for. >> rachel, thank you. >> i know it embarrasses you. that's part of why i say it. we'll be right back.

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have been discussing. there's a cnn report that steve bannon will not appear before the house intelligence committee tomorrow despite a subpoena to do so. again, nbc has not confirmed it, but there's an initial report that bannon will be defying the subpoena despite what we heard from congressman eric swalwell that he expects him to do be there. also we talked about the market sell off friday and monday. on the dow futures they're down over 1,000 that's what traders bet the market will open at tomorrow. that's does it for us tonight. now it's time for the "last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> i just learned there is such a thing as dow futures. that's how concerned i am with