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>> plus general chaos in the wake of the rob porter scandal. >> the chief of staff does not get detailed updates about what may or may not have been alleged. >> has john kelly lot control of the west wing, did he actually have any control in the first place? and how one senate race announcement in the sunshine state could cast a long shadow over the entire national mid-term election map. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm chuck todd here in miami. pretty much the best city to be in in the month of february. no offense everybody else. welcome to "mtp daily." and tonight i'm not going to go full howard beale but it is close. it feels like we've reached a level of crazy in this white house. and it is difficult to take it any more. reality tv appearances, tabloid

gossip, conspiracy theories, name calling, vulgarities and a level of ego mania few have ever seen in washington and that is saying something. it is like we're living in a parity from three years ago. consider, what would happen if donald trump became president. omarosa would be in the white house and then leave to go to big brother to dish on administration secrets. oh, wait, that happened on big brother celebrity edition, airing tonight. >> i felt like it was like a call of duty. i felt like i was serving my country, not serving him. whenever was it -- >> that makes sense. >> accepting a political appointment, it was always about the country. i was haunted by tweets every single day. like what is he going to tweet next. >> does anybody say to him, what are you doing? >> i tried to be that person and then all of the people around him attacked me. it was like, keep her away -- don't give her access, don't let her talk to him. and it is like -- [ inaudible ].

>> should we be worried? >> don't say that. because we are worried but i need you to say no, it is going to be okay. >> it's not going to be okay. it's not. >> now let's leave aside the fact that omarosa made the comments on a show named after george orwell's surveillance state. we're not even surprising by this any more. think about what we've seen oren durred in the last 13 months of this presidency. the twitter battles with a rival nuclear power and members of his own party, special council, tv, justice department, mayors, senators, governors or allies and many people in between. how about the conspiracy theories. obama wiretapped me, i won the popular vote. russian meddling is a hoax and the deep state and justice department. maybe the access hollywood tape is a fake too. immigrants from s-hole countries

and endorsing an accused child molester for senate and the ego, talk of the military parade, the inaugural crowd size, alternative fags and bragging about his -- and how about the vulgarities, accusing another adviser of trying to perform a sex act on himself. other advisers constantly dishing about their own president, including a cabinet secretary calling him a moron. how about the cliff hanger saying tune in next time to see what happens on nafta. staff shake-ups, oval office recordings, talking to mueller. a government shutdown, even nuclear war and then the tabloid fodder who is sleeping with who in the white house and his affair with a porn star paying her off to keep quiet. and this week, white house staff secretary rob parter resigned after allegations of a british gossip site of a domestic abuse

involving two ex-wives an the white house statements came from a press shop by the woman he's rumored to be dating and all of this is the legacy of the first reality tv star president where everything is personal and it is all about the show. >> they hired a big, big movie star, arnold schwarzenegger to take my place. and we know how that turned out. the ratings were went down the tubes. it has been a total disaster. and mark will never, ever bet against trump again. and i want to just pray for arnold, if we, for those ratings, okay. >> that was at last year's prayer breakfast. today mark burnett, his producer on the apprentice got more than a shout out. he appeared with him at the prayer breakfast again. yes, it is a hell of a show. one for the ages. but it is no laughing matter. and is it any way to run a country. and then the republican party watching it all happen. there are some wondering if there is any decency left in our

american political system. they've allowed a reality tv star to turn washington into a circus act and when asked about omarosa comments at the briefing today and he actually said this -- >> omarosa was fired three times on the apprentice and this is the fourth time we've let her go. she had limited contact with the president while here. she has no contact now. >> folks, nobody should feel good about this. even if you are a trump supporter, there is no way to get anything done and no way the president can fulfill the promises to voters he made in this environment that he's created. let me bring in the panel. cordele belcher, kimberly atkins, and brett stevens is an nbc news contributor and new york times columnist. i've said a lot. brett, let me start with you. i know you had many reasons why you couldn't support donald trump as a candidate.

and you wrote about all of the fears of what a white house could look like in 13 months and, boy, today was something else. >> yeah, and what i feared two years ago, last year, all of it, more than came to pass. i think it is important for us to think of the movie template for the trump administration and the only one that really comes to mind is "gladiator" with russell crowe and that line when he's in the circus maximus or the coliseum saying are you ent entertained. that is not just sort of the bug in this administration, that is the feature in this administration. and i would point out, it is important for us to be able to a., not sink to his level, but understand that it is more than just a circus.

it is a -- it is a method. it is a way of devaluing politics to his advantage. because when he behaves the way he does and we respond with earnest outrage which is natural among normal human beings, he is in a sense -- he's getting the advantage of being able to make fun of us. and so we have to be careful about the way in which we respond to him. >> kimberly, this is the problem. this is the problem in putting together what i put together just now in that you sit there and you go to brett's point, do you sit back and say let it go and let it become the new normal or do you call it out? >> yeah, i think that is a tough call that people are making all of the time. especially -- so often it is hard to tell where the reality show ends and reality begins in the case of the omarosa story we're doing political analysis on a segment from a reality show. and on the one hand that seems crazy but on the other hand, of course we are.

because this is where we are. i think it is important, though, to remember the institutions and remember what they're supposed to be in order to preserve them. if everything about this administration is unusual, that is by design. and people are getting the exact donald trump that -- who campaigned for this job. so in that sense, it is not very surprising. but to the point that we really have to get to -- that we have to really analyze what is going on, it is like alice through the looking glass. we have to remember the reality, even if it feels like we have gone through the looking glass. and remember what this institution is sp -- supposed to be as we cover and analyze it and move forward. >> and cornell, it is something -- i think brett said something very important, the celebrity or entertainment aspect of this presidency is the feature that candidate trump wanted to bring to this. >> well, yeah.

and i'm going to double down on brett's -- from the gladiator and the maxim us said the time for honoring yourself will soon be an end. and what is important here is -- is the american people have a check on this. and when you look at disgruntlement with the american people and what is happening across the country, and you look at what just happened in missouri with that special election and you get some sense that the american people are getting tired of this and they will have a check on it. the republicans are in a tough place. because they are -- and we talked about this before -- they are tied to him for midterm. for better or worse. if he sinks they sink. and they are just trying to hold on and not come out against this sort of thing because they know if they come -- if he sinks any further, they are certainly done for in the midterms. >> brett, this is the problem. there are plenty of republicans, you talk to them a lot, i talk

to them a lot, they're mortified by all of this. >> but they don't say anything. and here is the problem, chuck, is that before the election and even rather right after the election, a lot of my republican friends who had been concerned kept telling me, not to worry, we have a system of checks and balances, congress has institutional interests which will run up against the personality and the aggressiveness and the bullying of the president and it will be a contained presidency. but what we've really seen over the past more than 13 months or so is that the president and his style have co-opted the republican party. i remember back in the 1980s, conservatives would thunder about the importance of making sure that truth was not relative. that truth wasn't in the eye of the beholder but the whole idea of having a reality tv show style presidency is to so blur

the distinction between fact and fiction, between truth and falsehood that people could more easily fall for lies. and powerful people could more easily get away with them because at the end of the day, they could always say, oh, i was just kidding, folks. so we have to be careful about the seduction of this style of politics and not be complacent. i hope cornell is right, i hope the time for honoring him will be at least politically at an end. but we have -- we can't be complacent about that conclusion because this style of politics is succeeded throughout history. and it might succeed again. >> kimmer berly i'm going to get a mail or two from folks so say he has a gruff style but i like the courts and the tax bill and that he's holding firm on immigration and that is all i was asking from him. i'm not looking for a role model. and he has convinced his base

that that is all he should be delivering. >> yeah, i think it is really interesting, especially coming from a president who is very transactional in the way he does everything. it seems that people who support him are -- their support is very transactional as well. when you have somebody who is accused of having an affair with a porn star but has the backing of evangelicals because of the -- the judges that he's apointing and because of the rulings they will make on issues like abortion. it is become -- the entire political realm has become transactional. it is really things like morality and right and wrong are sort of taking a backseat. i'm not saying that hasn't happened before the trump administration but seeing it happen-with republican members of congress who refuse to stand up to him, and other supporters, it is remarkable to see how that -- how that has changed -- continued to change. >> one thing that may be not different in this episode is that it does seem as if somebody has to be the fall guy for this

current mess, the rob porter mess and it appears it is john kelly. i've talked to folks, the president has told outside advisers that he's lost -- that he's lost confidence in john kelly. perhaps his days are numbered. cornell, does it matter? >> well it does matter because -- you remember that one of the early arguments was that we had guys like john kelly with his background and military background who were the adults in the room who would keep trump in check. well, the guys -- the adults in the room are vanishing from the room. and i'm struck by what omarosa says. it is not okay. i don't think we're going to be okay. i think kelly said some things that -- frankly i find offensive about immigration -- about immigrants, et cetera. but he was still one of the security blankets that we look at and say there is some adults

around him so things won't get too chaotic. the checks and balances that are around him and the adults in room are not doing their job and he's letting them go. we are not going to be okay. >> i was thinking about this, brett. john kelly is only the latest person if he does end up having to exit under this cloud, whose reputation is tarnished more after he leaves trump's orbit. >> i think that is very true. i don't think anyone is going to emerge from the trump administration better or better regarded than when they went in. and six months i would have given you a different answer. but this is a president who is capable of firing yet another babysitter. i think when he leaves the white house, he should start a show called extreme baby-sitting. i think it would do well on any number of networks. >> that is our reality show

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welcome back. former vice president biden weighed in today on elements of that white house chaos we were just talking about. in a one-on-one sitdown with andrea mitchell he reacted to the news of rob porter's resignation following allegations of multiple instances of domestic abuse. >> you've been a big supporter of combatting violence against women, the legislation, your initiative against sexual assault on campuses. here you have the fbi warning the white house -- this white house for months that one of the

top advisers in and out of the oval office was accused by two ex-wives of domestic abuse, how do you explain his access to the president of the united states and that the chief of staff in the last 24 hours describing him as a man of personal integrity. >> i can't explain. it is long past due that you have to understand he's departed. and if you just look at it from the perspective of one thing, the fbi didn't think he should get a security clearance, permanent security clearance. >> they had to know that. >> and sure they knew that. and they still -- look, i -- the culture is changing thank god but not fast enough. >> you can catch andrea mitch's full interview with joe biden on nbc news.com. worth the binge. more "mtp daily" after the break. paths aren't what they used to be.

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out within hours -- again. but it is possible this time that the drama could end with a shutdown averted. there is a big new budget bill making its wau -- its way through congress with something for both sides. and there is. over the next two years it would add $131 billion in domestic spending and $165 billion in military spending and $90 million in disaster spending. it could pass the senate but face a tougher road in the house but if it makes it through, it is exposing serious divisions in both parties. republicans who have long claimed to be the party concerned about debt and deficit face a vote to raise government spending levels. conservatives sh the ones that do still care about the deficit, are up in arms about that. democrats are divided too. for different reasons. chuck schumer cheered the bill but nancy pelosi plans to vote against it and saying she can't support a funding bill without a vote on a daca solution. let me bring in our capitol hill correspondent cait case -- kasie

hunt and there is sort of two different dramas playing out. one very predictable and one not and both sides of the capitol there, the senate, rand paul is trying to slow -- gun up the works and -- on the spending issue. and then house democrats -- rand paul being rand paul. and then the house democrats are debating whether they should kill it or not. so what do you know? >> reporter: chuck, this is really unfolding minute to minute here. democrats are meeting behind closed doors to try and decide what to do. we had sort of assumed that because nancy pelosi was behind closed doors in the leadership meeting and part of these kinds of negotiations, that their ultimately would be enough democratic votes to go forward. originally this morning the suggestion was democrats weren't -- she was not going to vote for it but democrats weren't going to whip against it oren courage members to vote no. then a notice that went out this afternoon that said democrats should vote no. and our colleague alex mo is

downstairs and reports that the people she's talked to going into meeting, she's having a hard time finding democrats to say yes to this deal. so if that is the case, then it is in more trouble than we thought. but of course this really -- again the expectation is still that there will be enough pressure from democrats who want to vote for this that ultimately it will get through the house. but it still has a long road. we were anticipating the senate would have voted several hours ago. that is more of an issue about one person and if they can figure out a way to give his demanding of a amendment to pull back on the spending. if they could find some way to give him some of what they want, i don't anticipate any problems in the senate but we are in a holding pattern when we expected to have had the ball rolling down the hill. and again, that shutdown in theory is at midnight. >> do house republicans have a plan b. if they don't have the democrats to basically bail them out on this vote? >> reporter: i don't think so, chuck.

the speakers has saying republicans will hold up our end of the bipartisan deal. and has -- has been pretty free about letting his freedom caucus members say and do whatever they want. mark meadows has been noticeably restrained. he's the chairman of the freedom caucus and not criticizing this deal in an out front way but said look, we gave up our leverage. so if in fact democrats decide to stand against this, then i'm really not sure where we would go from here. >> one of the things that i noticed today and i'm sure -- i know you did too, was both in the letters that nancy pelosi sent around to her fellow democrats and what i noticed in joe crowley's statement, i'm just -- he's also in leadership, they both essentially -- joe crowley was more interesting because he made his case against the bill and didn't say how he was going to vote. nancy pelosi said she would vote no but didn't say how she wanted her colleagues to vote. what is going on with leadership

in this. >> right. and the challenge there i think -- and this is the question about whether or not they are whipping, quote unquote, against this bill, because as you know nancy pelosi have is a a -- is a very effective legislator. if she wants the caucus to hold together. she's have good at manipulating the leverage of power among her own and at the end of the day that is what this is about. it is about the internal politics about the democratic caucus. nancy pelosi and -- and you should consider and our viewers should consider joe crowley as a successor to nancy pelosi if there were ever to be a day where she would step down. he would be seen as somebody to inherit that mantle. her support comes from the congressional hispanic caucus and the black caucus and other dynamics. but the chc opposed to this. they don't think what ryan has said is good enough. so i think the question here is did she take her play a step too far. there are a the love more moderates in the caucus who want to vote for this.

but are now confused about where things are headed because she took that stand on the floor, there is criticism that doesn't accomplishment much to do a floor speech in the house but eight hours is a long time. it turned into something people noticed and so now they are trying to figure that out. and a bigger question mark than i thought we would have at this hour. >> it means you're probably going to be there tomorrow morning when tomorrow morning is 1:00 a.m. -- >> reporter: don't say that. >> because the vote schedule -- i don't see how they make the midnight deadline just on their crazy rules. >> reporter: yeah, although, frankly, the rules are the rules but they could be adjusted in cases of crisis and they have been before. so i look -- there is no appetite for a shutdown, chuck. there was an appetite last time. that is not the case here. except -- and unless there is something unpredictable going on with house democrats. >> we've stumbled into shutdowns that nobody wanted before. so it is -- i recall one in

2013. >> reporter: indeed we have. >> kasie hunt, order the takeout and make it a chinese -- you went thai last time. >> and let me bring back the panel. kimberly and cornell and brett. kimberly, what we're seeing here, i think house democrats are trying to decide if they want to make a loud statement here and a loud statement would be sinking this bill. >> it would be. and i think kasie is right. they are figuring out now at the 11th hour exactly what they want to do and what the repercussion is. i spent all day trying to talk to democrats and democratic operatives to say -- look, what is your end game here. what is the upside of possibly pushing a shutdown and i didn't get a clear full answer. yes, the democrats really want a solution on daca. nancy pelosi and other leaders want paul ryan to commit to putting this forward and in the same way that mitch mcconnell did. but as paul ryan said, the house

does work differently. it is for a long-term -- there is this hastert rule where the leadership will not put forward a bill unless it has a majority of the majority of support. and with president trump still not being very clear what he wants and walking away from what lawmakers would back in a daca -- in a compromise, it seems very unlikely that there is something that they know is going to pass and they know will get signed and won't be subject to a veto. so it is a big mess and it seems shockingly that nobody really knows what the best end game should be or will be. >> cornell, nancy pelosi on line one. what would you advise? >> i'm going to be contrarian. because, nance, you could say a lot about her, but she's an excellent legislator. but i'll be contrary. to a certain extent, rand paul will do what he does. but on the house side, look, the democrats have been holding out because they want to -- to -- the same sort of deal that

democrats have gotten on the daca vote, make sure there is a vote on daca. which by the way, if you -- if not for the hastert rule, you will have a majority of the house who will vote for that. but this is how the house is supposed to work. there are things in the bill that democrats want and things in this bill that republicans want. not a majority of republicans will be for this but if you put it on the floor you'll get a bipartisan piece of legislation by the majority of the house. the problem for speaker ryan is in his caucus and his caucus politics, but from a legislative standpoint, he has a majority for this bill. >> okay. but would you -- so what would you advise nancy pelosi to do, to tell her to kill the bill. >> if she gets the guarantee from speaker ryan and he said that she should do -- let her

people go -- >> let her people go. brett, i have to say, we do this -- i feel like the government funding bill is the groundhog day story of the american politics now. every three months we're always about to run out of money and always about to avert a shutdown. there is no way to run a government. but we're all numb to it now. >> well, that is exactly right. and one of the central promises of the trump administration is that a business man president would run a much more effective government than political politicians. that turns out to be laughably and false. i do want to answer the question you ask the cornell, which is that much as i want to see a solution to daca, as much as anything, i think nancy pelosi got over her skis. it was an impressive physical performance and impressive in

the defense of the dreamers, butt last thing the democrat should want is to be blamed for another shutdown of the government. i can't think of a single instance in which government was shutdown in which the party that was pushing the shutdown, whether it was ted cruz and the republicans in 2013 or chuck schumer in december didn't get hammered for it and that doesn't help the dreamers. americans want to help the dreamers, but really not at -- at the expense of themselves. she should be very careful about the politics here. let this -- let the bill pass. don't get over her skis. >> but that is why she's not whipping them against it. >> right now. >> we'll find out in an hour or so any way. cornell and kimberly and bret. thank you. stick around. up ahead, florida, florida, how one senate race could change the entire national midterm map. i'll be right back. little things can be a big deal.

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welcome back. we're in the sunshine state. where one decision by one republican believe it or not could shake up the entire national midterm map. rick scott is still weighing a senate bid against bill nelson. two re-set polls show scott is competitive in a match-up with nelson and if he gets in the race it puts the florida senate seat in play for republicans and that makes this about a whole lot more than just a senate seat in florida. every dollar democrats spend on

defense for bill elson in the expensive state of florida is a dollar they can't spend in states where they could pick up a seat. oh, say, texas or tennessee or even the long shot hope of nebraska. joining me now on the set is the expert on florida politics. mark cabuto. >> thanks for having me. >> so rick scott is 80% there. sometimes i'm told 70%. but some days all but there. but there is always a but. what is he waiting for or is it just for the show. >> i think rick scott is a self made rags to researches multi-millionaire who won it when no one said he could and then won it again when no one said he should and he's taking his time. he has until may g for the qualifying period to end. i wouldn't be surprised if he waited until may 4th but the last session as governor answered march 9th so he'll

decide after march 9th. >> it is interesting with him, because the other thing that you hear about him is he will spend whatever it tab -- it takes to win. but he has to mow there is a path to victory. if he thinks he can't control his own zi-- destiny, does he s i'm not betting on my money on somebody else costing me the senate race, that being donald trump. >> that is how we think. he might think differently. right now if you look at polls and for last few months, it is static. he is neck and neck with bill nelson. -- >> and it will be the whole time. there is no way this race moves. >> and these polls not to get into crazy unskewing but the polls have slightly higher democratic examples and florida midterm after midterm, republicans overperform. >> what is interesting here for scott is that he's in a unique situation. you talked about this the first two races. 2010 and 2014 were republican years and he barely won.

now here is 2018, good news for him highest job rating yet as governor. and there is no doubt -- i talk about my mom and like she was a scott skeptic, but he's done a good job. that sort of aspect. and yet it is the worst political environment he could have imagined potentially having to run in unlike the previous two. >> it should be. but one of things that scott's people are saying is that he could create his own atmosphere. his own weather pattern in the face of these trump head winds. and again the thing they think they have in their pocket which so far is true that democrats suck at midterm -- or midterm voting in florida. they just do. >> and then the cost. we always talk about the cost. florida is so expensive. and this is why literally senate democrats have quietly said they can't target ted cruz because of rick scott. >> it could cost as many as $3 million a week at the peak of the advertising and the campaign season to do saturation advertising in florida.

$3 million a week. and that is money that burns quickly. >> and correct me if i'm wrong, he's a billionaire still. rick scott. >> he is a multi-millionaire, but there are variety of family trusts around where he could suck in a lot of money real quick. >> bill nelson is not poor but no personal money to do this. this has to come from washington. >> right. and now the washington democrats are saying it is going to be there and they are prepared to be outspent and rick scott is in a position where if he wants to, he will outspend them. >> and very quickly to the governor race for this perspective. it seems we are getting almost either a replay on the republican side of the republican divide nationally that you see in every primary establishment versus outsider but we're going to get a hint at what the democratic presidential primary could look like which is the center left candidate in glenn graham as opposed to your bernie guy. are both parties setting up to be the epic nationalized looking primary. >> i guess. florida is a weird race. because remember phil levine, the mayor of miami beach is

running as an outsider. er the former mayor of miami beach and a member of the clinton machine in good standing. >> so he's suddenly trying to be a bernie guy or a progressive. >> he's not. he's trying to test the theory that you don't have to run too far left. he's in a democratic primary saying he is a self made business man and that is not what make democrats' hearts go pitter patter. >> and what does that do to graham. >> she's a weak establishment front-runner just like adam putnam in the gop primary. it is going to be quite a bloody battle so to speak. i don't want to be too dramatic. >> i hear you. what about the role -- what will the role of a gillham play in the democratic primary? does he finish or is this the self funder in the graham family? >> andrew gillham has been able to hang on when people had written hisso bituary and the only african-american and if anyone is a buernie candidate i

is him because he's speaking out of the true progressive playbook. >> and before i let you go. tallahassee, it was seedy, the lobbying community in the way it intermingled with the senate president, are they going to be able to clean that up or does tallahassee have a long way go. >> they have a culture of being isolated. it is a state capitol in the middle of nowhere and we talk about with harvey weinstein, there are a lot of hollywood studios but this is only one florida. this is ingrained in the culture of the place. >> do you think the culture can change. >> but it will take some is time. and the other thing i have to throw up the you. >> we have to through up the u. great recruiting class. now it means mark richt. the championship is bust. >> good to see you. coming up, exposed the myth of the animal that does not exist in washington. it is called the deficit hawk. always have been. when i found out

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constituents and don't worry, it probably pays for itself any way. take the case of bob corker of tennessee, the deficit hawk announced he is against any tax bill that added one penny to the deficit. not one penny he said. fast forward a few weeks and he signed on to a bill that added more and -- and one a half trillion dollars. that is 150 trillion pennies to the deficit. and 150 trillion pennies is good. rl remember how republicans threatened to deitaly on the debt in 2013 to prevent congress from raising the debt ceiling in the name of curbing spending under a democratic president. today most republicans are agreeing to raise spending caps by $300 billion. deficit -- shfefisit. and most democrats don't even pretend to care any more. so the next time you hear a member of either party on tv talk about being fiscally responsible at curbing spending and do yourself a favor and turn

down the sound. by the way, bob corker $1.5 trillion -- came out against today's spending bill agreement though. why? you guessed it, because it adds to the deficit. we'll be right back. with fidelity wealth management you get straightforward advice,

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>> i think the underlying dynamics are still popular for the republicans. i'm going to go to something that mark said. pull my pollster card out for a minute. trump's up tick, he's around 39%, 40%. which was roughly where george bush was in 2006 and we took back the house, but the underlying dynamics here are still problematic, because you still have, even in 2006, when i was pollster for dnc, we didn't see college educated white women breaking this far away from politics. the way women, particularly college educated white women are breaking away from politics, it's going to be a bad year for them if that holds. and mark was talking about midterms in florida and the polling there. if we said that democrats were only turning out at the same levels they typically turn out in midterms and we have in

virginia, a race that is in the polls is tied or the republicans up, when in fact what you have is more votes than any governor in gubernatorial history. the problem with these models is democrats turning out in record numbers, the models are different there. sorry. >> the virginia example was in my head, polling said one thing, results said another, this week polling is saying one thing about republicans and then you saw it, well, they just had a contest in missouri and look, republican turnout is still in the tank. >> that's right and i think one crucial factor here is that republicans had been hoping that a buoyant economy was going over

the next eight months or nine months to persuade voters that trump antics aside, the united states was doing well. i hope that the stock market doesn't continue to tank, but if it does, if there's a serious correction or if americans don't feel that the tax cuts that they were promised weren't all that they had been trumped up to be, so to speak, then the case for voting republican is going to be extraordinarily slechnder, thers no question that all of the energy, all of the moral enthusiasm is on the democratic side. i would just caution, and this may be simply a truism, but nine days is a long time in politics and nine months is an eternity. >> and in the era of trump, i would say nine hours is long hours in politics. what you would do to try to fight the republicans on the tax

cut narrative? >> i think on the tax cut narrative, it depends, i think over time the tax bill is going to get more popular. i mean we talked about this before, it's sort of like obamacare got more popularity over time, i don't know how many more it can grow in popularity in nine months, especially if the stock market does stabilize, you run the risk of people seeing some benefit from this bill and if you're campaigning against it, that's not going to look good for you, that being said, the democrats need to campaign on something, even though donald trump is a weight, they can't just campaign against him, they're going to have to do things to get out the vote and keep moving forward. >> i got to stop it there, because i'm way out of time. but it may be all about trump, whether any of us like it or not, cornel, kimberly, brett, thank you for doing a little

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