have to teach them how to swim first. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natae morales. thank you for watching. >> i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." the. >> these kids think they're trying out for a new pop culture quiz show. >> i don't think we're supposed to be talking. >> these kids won a spot on a new ultimate challenge show. they have no idea we're the one withes testing them. >> why don't we just put 20. >> to see if they'll cheat. >> does anybody know who bella thorne is? >> while our cameras and their parents watch. >> oh, my gosh. >> would your child give in to temptation? >> sasha changed his answer. >> i don't like that.

>> we'll tell you what you might be doing wrong. >> i'm a little disappointed, actually. >> and show you how to do it right. >> i want you to be a strong person and really stand up for yourself. >> please, put away your phone. >> he's doing what i taught him to do. >> put away your phone. >> it's "dateline's" my kid would never do that, the cheating edition. >> hello, i'm fatly morales. we all want our kids to shine on the field. how do we make sure they do well on their own and not by cheating? peer pressure is everywhere and the cool to cut corners could be overwhelming. you may think your kids would never take the easy way out, but how well do you really know them? watch and learn as we use hidden cameras to look at the secret lives of your children. >> well, i see it every day, every class. >> you just turn to the left and you look at the other kid's

paper. >> everyone cheats at one time or another. >> it's an open secret in just about every american school. >> i'm all up night studying and they're cheating. it makes me feel like my hard work is for nothing. >> experts call an an epidemic. >> students say it's an art. >> they try to be a better cheater than a better student. >> they'll put pieces of paper for answers in their boots. >> write on the inside of water bottles. >> the most clever form of cheating i've ever seen is kids using american sign language. >> if the teacher is oblivious, you can look at a friend and be like, what's number three? >> cheating has been around as long as teachers have been giving tests. >> when you're really given a conflict, what are you going to do? some of you are in high school. >> rosalyn is an expert in team dynamics and the author of "owning up" a school based

curriculum that teaches ethics. while some may think cheating is a victimless crime, she tells kids what's at stake. >> if you cheat, your lack of knowledge or lack of ability is going to come forward. not only will you be punished, but people will think that you are a fraud. >> and we've seen how cheating can get out of control. a new york suburb was rocked by a cheating scandal several years ago. it was displayed all over the news. >> parents at this wealthy north shore school were not surprised to hear about the widening scam. >> it's never going to change. kids are going to keep cheating no matter what they do. >> it's very prevalent. >> eric is a professor of educational psychology at ohio state university. he's analyzed over 50 years of data on cheating trends and sees it as a serious problem. his research suggests that more than half and possibly up to 95% of high school students have cheated at some point. >> not everyone, but most are doing something that most of us

would consider an act of cheating. >> do you think parents are aware of how extensive cheating is? >> no. i really don't. i think most of us think that our sons or daughters wouldn't do that. >> so while we would all like to think my kid would never cheat, you're about to meet some brave parents who are actually willing to find out. all of them say the they talk about honesty at home, but is the message getting through? with our hidden cameras rolling, we'll put cheating to the test. when confronted with the chance to fudge a score -- just put 29. >> or cheat on a quiz -- >> number six. >> i think it's c. >> do you think it's c? >> what will these good kids do. >> you've changed so much. >> and will anyone tell the truth about it later? >> so everything is totally -- that's honest times and honest scores? >> we start in a middle school gym to find out what these kids

will do about cheating in sports. they're here to audition for an ultimate challenge tv show for kids. at least that's what they think. >> hi. my name is breanna. >> we'll put them through challenges led by a personal trainer who emphasizes that they need to do well or they're out. >> if you cannot do better than 30 seconds, you're probably not going to make it. >> what they don't know is we've rigged a gym with cameras and an actress. >> this dad is confident his son, anthony, would never do it. >> he's a good student. he's very athletic. he's very competitive. >> does he play by the rules? >> 100%. he plays by the rules. and i think today he'll get upset if he finds someone cheating. >> breanna's mom says her daughter has a strong moral

compass. >> although i can she does struggle with peer presre a lot, like most children her age. >> in a peer pressure situation where perhaps others are goading her to cheat, how do you think she may respond? >> i don't see her cheating because she has too much of a guilty conscious, i think. >> don't think that they'll allow someone to make her lie or cheat. that's my gut instinct. so if i find out otherwise, i'll be very surprised. >> are you getting nervous? >> we'll be watching on monitors in a room not far away. what will these kids do when they think no one is watching? >> they're not watching? i'm putting 19. >> will these kids be able to resist the pressure and stay strong? >> coming up, the moment of truth is approaching for the kids and the parents. >> god, the pressure. >> when "date line" continues.

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welcome back to "dateline." most parents try to instill honesty in their children. that's especially important in an age of intense societal pressures to get ahead. but is the message getting through to our young ones or is the pull to break the rules too strong especially when someone is nudging them along? >> hidden cameras are rolling as

these parents watch to see if their kids will be tempted to cheat. the middle schoolers think they're competing for a spot on an ultimate challenge show for kids. cheating reseg searcher ache anderman says something something big at stake is what motivates the kids to bend the rules. >> it's what is the carrot at the end of the stick? if the incentive is big enough for them, then they will cheat. >> so something like being cast on a tv show is probably an an incentive. >> the kids don't know we've hired an actress to cheat for the group. our coach explains the competition. the whole group has to race through the obstacle course as fast as possible, then record their times on the board. the best score will be the lowest. >> i will take the best score out of those times and that's the score that i will give you. >> and there are two important rules. don't knock over the hurdles. >> you knock over a hurdle, you need to start all over.

>> and no hands to go faster on the scooters. >> and you do not use your hands. >> the coach puts our actress, lauren, the cheater in charge of the clock. then leaves the group alone. >> i'm working on the honor system here because they need me with the other kids. >> on the first run through, everyone follows the rules. when natasha knocks over a hurdle -- >> how do you put that back up? >> start over, start of. >> she fixes it and starts again. >> go back, go back. >> but the next time through the obstacle course, our actress encouragesveryone to go faster by using their hands on the scooters. in other words, cheat. >> use your hands a little bit. just -- breanna objects. >> no. she's telling her to use her hands and she's like, no. >> the group finishes the obstacle course in 33 seconds, but our cheater want to lie and write down a faster time. >> how about we just put 29. >> briana speaks up again trying

to keep the group honest. >> come on, just -- >> i don't want to be the party pooper. >> now our actor goes around to the other side of the board and finds some fake scores we've planted from a competing team. >> guys, teammates scores on the back. >> what? you've got to be kidding me. >> we've got to step it up. >> this group thinks the other team did the course much faster. so our cheater goes ahead .lies about their time, writing down 29 instead of 33. but as his father predicted, anthony won't let her do it. >> no, no, no. 33. in fact, he stops the cheating by erasing the false time and writing the correct one. 33 seconds. >> oh, no. the thing was 33. >> so far so good. >> let's go. >> but the competition isn't over yet. another one through the obstacle course and natasha, again,

knocks over a hurdle, a clear no-no. this time when our cheater tells her to ignore the rules and keep going -- >> keep going. >> you forgot to reset it? to her mother's surprise, she does. >> she kept going. >> how did you do? >> okay. >> our coach comes back to give them the next test, try to do the highest number of jumping jacks in ten seconds. >> jumping jack, how many can you do in 10 seconds? good luck. >> once the coach is out of the room -- >> three, two, one. >> our actress, lauren, will start boosting the numbers. >> 14, 15, 16. >> natasha does 16. >> i'm going to put 19. they're not watching. i'm putting 19. >> lauren writes down 19. and this time, no one has a word. briana who tried to stop the cheating earlier looks unhappy. >> looks frustrated. >> and just like that, the cheater has taken control.

>> 15, 16, 17. >> this boy does 20 jumping jacks. >> 20? >> 20 exactly. >> but our actress wants to write down more. >> anthony stood up to her moments earlier, but now -- >> 21ish. >> anthony caves and shruggeds as our cheater writes down a false number. >> okay, you all, do you see what's happening here? they're agreeing. >> they're going with the flow. >> putting numbers up that anterior the right ones. >> something is going on with them because they're very quiet. >> when i go in, they think i'm the host of the fake ultimate challenge show. they tell me the scores are all correct. in fact, they say lauren did a great job as score keeper. >> she was good with that? >> yeah. >> got it right every time? really? let's see if they stick to that story when they hear this is not an audition. >> you're going to be on tv, but the show is a special report on cheating.

and we have cameras throughout the room. your parents have been watching. did you guys actually do 21 jumping jacks? >> no. 19. >> 19. >> yeah. >> why did you guys go along with 21? >> peer pressure. >> yeah, peer pressure. >> i was trying to go against her and say 19. four out of five people said no, let's go up, so i just -- >> so you went with the masses. >> yeah, because we wanted to get on the show. >> briana tells me that while she clearly knew cheating was wrong, speaking up got too hard. >> i didn't feel like i had a say. they were the ones taking over, it doesn't feel right, but -- it's complicated. >> it doesn't surprise me that she would say that. i think she struggles with it. >> these things do happen. >> it's a story that rosalyn wiseman has heard before. >> it is complicated because she was trying. it wasn't working.

it made her feel like what is the point of speaking out when i'm just going to be overridden? >> here are your parents. >> it's peer pressure. i don't know. i want to be in. >> i think it's really important for parents to realize how powerful group dynamics are, not just for kids, but for all of us. >> did you actually realize what was going on with the numbers and everything like that? >> yes, yes. >> okay. >> so for these kids and parents, a lesson learned. >> so as a father now, what do you talk to him about when you're driving home today the? >> this was peer pressure. and he was with five other kids and he just went along with the flow. and he didn't put a stop to it. and that's something that we need to bring up and talk about because i have two other children. >> we got another group of parents ready to find out if their kids have what it takes to stand up to the cheater. and this time we meet a mom who makes a surprising prediction. >> so you think she's going to join them? yeah. >> in the cheating.

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with an ethical dilemma. what will happen when they're given a chance to cheat? >> hi. i'm julia. >> hi. my name is xavier. >> my name is miranda. >> miranda's mother knows how powerful peer pressure can be. she says her daughter is the go along to get along type and suspects she might join the cheaters. >> i think miranda might go along with it. >> i love her to death, but she is so kind. >> cease a people pleaser? >> yes. she wants po make everybody happy. >> the parents of xavier and julia think the opposite, predicting their kids will stand up to the cheaters. >> i'm thinking she's not going to follow the crowd if they're doing something that is inappropriate or that she knows i wouldn't approve of, but i guess we'll find out. >> the kids race through the obstacle course as fast as they can. the first time through, they do it in 40 seconds. >> i got 40.

>> but later, the actress we planted to cheat want to change the time to 34. >> what the heck? >> right away, miranda speaks up, but not in the way her mom predicted. >> i think we should keep it. >> why? who wants to be on the tv show? >> but i want to be truthful about it. >> about you that's huge to be able to speak out like that. >> just keep going. >> they do the obstacle course again. this time in 29 seconds. and listen to what miranda says when other cheater writes down 20 instead. >> you don't want to be on tv? >> i do, but like i said, i don't want to be a liar. >> and she's not finished yet. when miranda does 19 jumping jacks -- >> why don't we just put 20 because some kid did 20 in the other group. >> i'd rather keep it 19. >> it's not like something you can't do. >> i'm just saying, who wants to be on the tv show. >> i will, but not like that. >> what do you mean not like that? they're not going to know. >> i will know and i cannot live with the guilty.

>> good for her. >> she's giving that girl a hard time. >> she's getting angry. >> i'm just going to put 20 and move on. >> no. >> why not? >> fine. i'm going to put 19. >> thank you. >> maran is ticked right now. she has a look on her face. >> and when the coach comes back and looks at the times they got on the obstacle course, miranda's mom is shocked by what happened. >> 20. >> what do you mean? >> it wasn't truthful. it wasn't 20. >> miranda is showing you up here. >> she is. very much so. >> i'm very proud of h. she definitely makes the right decisions when the times right. i'm impressed. i'very impressed. i'm proud of my girl. >> then i tell them why they are really here. >> we're doing a show on cheating and your parents have been watching. so they're actually very proud of you because you guys did call lauren out on the cheating. good job, miranda. your mom owes you a bit of an apology. >> miranda didn't know her

mother was watching today, but rosalyn says when talking to kids about agentics, it's a good idea to tell them to simply imagine being watched all the time. >> i would think about who is the person that we respect the most in our life? just as we're about to do something that we're thinking, is it ethical, is it not, i don't know, that you have that person in your head basically acting like that camera and thinking, if this person saw me right now doing that, how would that feel? >> i did want think you would react that way. >> miranda's mother leaves corrected and proud. and while her daughter did the right thing today, rosalyn says there is more that parents should be talking about with their kids. she says in the real world, standing up for what's right is not always popular. >> what are you going to say to people who might, you know, get angry at you because you've come forward and done the right thing? you can't guarantee that people are going to thank you for it. >> there's no doubt that standing up to cheaters is hard. but it may be even tougher in had our next test. we're leaving the gym to take a

test in the library. and students tell us that most kids can think cheating in school is no big deal. >> people go crazy if people cheat on sports, but in school, i don't think people care as much. >> no one cares if people cheat in school. >> cheating researcher eric anderman. >> is there a difference between cheating in sports and cheating in academics? >> there's a difference in terms of what is tolerated. you're a bad sport if you cheat in sports. whereas in a classroom, for some kids, it's actually makes them cool toe en as chting on academic kinds of things. >> we' hired two new actors to play the cheaters. what will happen when they do this? >> you think it's c? >> i put d. >> did you put d? >> oh, my gosh. >> coming up, everybody is doing it. or at least it seems that way. >> artie schuster? >> so you are not in trouble,

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all around us. we hear about it happening in high level sports and business dealings. trying to shape our children's moral compasses is one of the biggest challenges for parents today. in our next experiment, kids think they are taking a quiz, but will they pass our test? >> no. >> we've seen how some kids react to cheating in sports. even when it would benefit their own team. >> i will know and i cannot live with the guilty. >> now we're in a school library and both experts and kids tell us cheating in school is the norm. >> so many students see it as so prevalent, so common, so prolific that they don't see it as, really, a big, big transgression. >> these parents are hoping their kids would never cheat. but are they ready to find out? >> if you're not honest with yourself, you dig yourself a hole. >> i'm so excited. >> sasha's mother says he's a happy go lucky friendly kid. she says while they rarely discuss cheating, they talk about honesty all the time. >> we have to be very honest

with not only yourself, but your friends and your family. >> so what are your predictions for what might happen today? >> i hope he does the right thing. >> did you see that katy perry dyed her hair blond? >> emma's mother says her daughter is a conscience student. she remembers what happened in electric elementary school when a student tried to copy off her paper. she told the teacher. >> but when she speak up today? how do you think she'll react when the cheating starts happening around her? >> i think she'll be reay stressed and nervous. >> and this mom says she's not sure. >> kids act different when they're not with their moms. >> thank you so much for coming today. >> sasha, gi a anna and emma think they're here to be tested on pop culture. a dry run, our producer tells them, for a new game show in development. >> we need your help in trying to develop this new show.

>> the questions will be will tv shows and music, light hearted stuff. but it's the competition that experts say motivates some kids to cheat. the parents are watching as we give these kids their first task, an individual quiz. >> we want to get a sense of how much you know by yourself. >> any student knows that means no talking. hidden cameras are rolling when our producers leaves. it's pin drop silence. until the two actors we've hired to cheat break the rules. >> miles. >> yeah? >> for number 6, i think it's c. do you think it's c? >> i put d. >> did you put d? >> as her mother predicted, emma looks nervous. >> i just saw your daughter look at the door. >> is somebody watching? >> we've included a question about the popular tv show, glee, which was in its final season. >> which one is eight? >> i think artie schuster. >> thank you. >> emma, the serious student, tries to tell the group to stop

talking. >> i don't think we're supposed to ask each other the answers. >> but they keep chatting. >> you might be right. hold on. i kind of want to change that now. >> so change it to b. >> and watch what sasha does now. >> oh, my gosh. >> so sasha changed his answer. >> but they were all talking to him, too, and comparing. so it's not like he was the only one. >> so how did you feel seeing that -- >> i don't like that, sasha. >> time for another test, a group test. >> so you have to collectively decide what you think the answer is. >> we put our actress in charge of writing down the answers they'll come up with together. >> yes. >> now that they're no longer cheating, emma seems to relax. prince william got married in 2011 and we had a question about him on the test. >> what is the name of his new test? >> kate middleton. >> and pipi middleton. >> we watched the royal wedding.

>> okay. >> you see, they're getting along so well that the next challenge they get is going to be tough for anybody. >> it's going to be hard for them to confront. >> we've rigged the group test with a second cheating temptation, an answer sheet is stapled to the back of the quiz. when our actress finds it, it will look like our mistake. so as the questions get harder -- >> for each of these young stars, give the name of their famous siblings. >> oh, my gosh. >> our actress pretends to discover the cheat sheet we planted. >> oh, i think these are the answers because it has kate and pipa. >> and instead of protesting, sasha appears to be celebrating the group's good fortune. >> oh, these are the judges. >> he excitedly reads off the cheat sheet. >> name four judges on nbc "the voice." >> adam levine. >> he's celebrating there are answers to the questions. >> i'm very uncomfortable about it, but he'll learn from this experiment, that's for sure. >> blake shelton.

>> as the group copies down answers, emma starts to look uneasy again, especially when they discuss what might happen later when their quiz gets checked. >> they're going be like, ooh, they're really smart. >> that's how you get on. >> it makes me feel sad that she doesn't feel comfortable enough to say hey, they said don't do the that. >> now i head into the library to ask them about the test. >> did you have fun doing this? >> yeah. >> i let them squirm a little. >> you guys really seem to know your pop culture. very good. >> then tell them what our show is really about. >> this is actually a show on cheating. we have hidden cameras all around the room and your parents have been watching. >> i was going to say, oh, my gosh. >> emma admits right away as that as one of the younger kids in the library, she felt helpless. >> well, i didn't think we should cheat, but since they're 16, i was kind of, like, embarrassed to say anything,

so -- >> ethics teacher rosalyn wiseman comes in to say what they did is typical for kids their age. >> so you are not in trouble, okay? so everyone take a deep breath. >> she says that with so many kids in schools cheating, it can start to seem normal, even necessary, even though it's wrong. >> i should have said something, but i was kind of -- i didn't really want to say something. >> is honesty important to your parents? like super important? >> uh-huh. >> and then you get into these situations and it's a lot trickier, right? i know that parents like to talk about it's important that you're honest. don't lie. but we don't give them a context sometimes for what that's goes to look like. and so cheating is a specific way of being dishonest. so i would be very specific with your kids about what honesty looks like to you. >> hello. >> she says tell kids point-blank, cheating equals lying. so in this case, it's a learning experience for both mother and son. you've got a voice. use it. find a way to make a wrong into

a right and not participate. don't get -- you know, it's easy to get sucked into a bad situation. >> yeah. but this situation came up again. are you going to remember what happened here? >> i would probably tell them to stop. >> probably? >> no, i will tell them to stop. >> good lesson learned. good job. do you want to go and get ice cream? >> but there's another group of kids waiting in the wings, and this time the cheating escalates to a whole new level. coming up -- >> we've cheated so much. >>ite not that big of a deal. >> oh, but it is. >> and your parents have been watching you guys. how do you guys feel? >> busted. . >> when "dateline" continues. wh no reported accidents. boom. love it. [struggles] show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com.

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welcome back to "dateline." experts say cheating is an he de demic in american schools so teaching kids to do the right thing is key to preparing them for more difficult situation when he is they get older. our hidden cameras have given us a window into what happens when kids are presented with cheating sensations. now let's take a look at what happens when the answers are at their fingertips. >> can you tell the cullen family from the kardashians? these teenagers think they can. >> favorite show is criminal

minds. >> my favorite show is "ant farm." >> they're here to try out for a new pop culture quiz show for kids. but that's just a ruse. their parents have brought them to the school library for a demonstration about cheating. and they're about to be confronted with a dilemma that their moms and dads never had to think about back when they were in high school. >> people use the internet on their phones all the time. they pull it out during class, just the click of a button, you can get the answer that you want. >> technology is really sort of the new frontier when it comes to cheating. >> yes. kids are using technology so often in such integrated ways to get information about everything. but when you are specifically told do not use them and you use them, anyway, then you are cheating. >> so before the quiz we make sure to give them this important instruction. >> you don't have any cell phones to look at answers. >> when we met him, kyle was an honor roll student who had just

been given a cell phone as a reward for his good grades. >> have you talked to him about cheating and the consequences of cheating? >> yes, we do. you need to say to him, this isn't right, i'm walking away from you. i'm not doing what you're doing. >> jasmine's mother says she's been trying to teach her daughter to stand her ground with other kids, but she's not sure what will happen today spp. >> what if she goes along with the cheating and she participants in the cheating? >> i'm not going to be angry. that just goes to show me there's more we've got to work on, more we have to talk about. >> jasmine and kyle are in the library with 12-year-old abby and the actors we've hired to cheat. our producer tells the group that the higher they score, the more likely they'll get a shot at being on the show. >> we'll ask the groups that we think do well to come back and audition for it. >> we leave them alone, hidden cameras rolling. and our cheaters quickly break the first rule.

no talking during the individual test. >> if we put higher numbers, does that, like, increase our chances? >> probably, yeah. >> and once the cheaters are talking -- >> wait, you said -- >> you did it with -- >> all the kids start sharing answers. >> jaden smith and ludicrous. >> kyle. >> emma watson and emma roberts, i don't know the difference. >> it's a quiz about pop stars, not ap history, but still, it's clear. these kids know what they're doing is cheating. listen to what kyle says. >> i don't think we're supposed to be talking. >> no one is here. >> and yet all of them, including kyle, keep going. >> does anybody know who bella thorne is? >> i don't think we're intoefd supposed to be talking, but he's asking the question. >> mine is asking all the questions. >> next, a group project, sharing allowed. we included a question about what position derek jeter played

for the new york yankees. >> shortstop. >> the kids work together as the questions get tougher. >> name is parents of the cullen family in the twilight series of books of movies. >> put a question mark. >> name all the kardashians in order from oldest to youngest. >> there's kim. khloe is the oldest. >> no, khloe is the mom. >> when they get stuck, the actors propose a new way to cheat. >> does anybody have a fine? >> should i just search the answers? >> no. >> just a little bit? >> no. >> while tyler kyle and the real kids voiced some reservations, the actors take out the phone, anyway. >> what if she walks in? >> he'll watch the door. >> they look uneasy, but no one tells them to stop. >> in order, it's chris kortney, kim, khloe and kylie. >> i think because everybody is

having a good time talking, she's kind of just going with it, going with the flow. >> i'm surprised he hasn't spoken up more. i'm a little disappointed, actually. the name of the parents of the cullen family. >> come on, kyle, say something. >> what would you like him to have done? >> i would have liked him to say put the phone away. i don't want to get in trouble. >> do you think in a similar situation you would have done that? >> now, yes. >> when the quiz is over, these kids reveal something that makes their parents happier. the conversation turns to smoking and drugs. >> i don't get why people would do drugs. i mean -- >> neither do i. >> why would you do it? >> well, that's good. see, we teach good. we got a little good out of it. >> hi, guys. how are you? >> but back to the quiz, how do you think they'll explain some of those answers we know they looked up online? >> the kardashians, i'm impressed. >> it's time to reveal that

we're with "dateline" and this show is about cheating. >> and your parents have been watching you guys. how do you guys feel? >> busted. >> all of them say it was the heat of the moment that made them act like they normally wouldn't. >> my stomach kind of was like turning and was like, uhh. >> taking out the phone and finding the papers, just is something i don't like to do. >> so what should a teenager do when other kids cheat? >> hi. >> rosalyn wiseman comes in with some advice. >> because it's not like you're going to see somebody cheating and say oh, my gosh, miles, you are cheating. that is so bad. that is against the school rules. don't you know that? you have to stop that right now. then you sound like some kind of after school special, which is weird, right? much better, be short but firm. >> you don't have to be long-winded sentences about it been but seriously, dude, stop. >> we asked kyle to role play with our actor and give it a try. >> you're like, so annoying. he's not listening.

>> stop. >> do you think you could do that? >> yeah, one of my friends, i would definitely do that. >> what do you think? >> kyle is relieved when his mother tells him he still gets to buy that cell phone he's been promised. >> did you learn anything from this? >> yeah. >> but jasmine is nervous. what will he say when she faces her mom.? >> i lied for everyone. we all lie for each other. i feel guiltiel about that. >> coming up -- one final test. his name means to be truthful and honest. >> but can umtrey live up to that name? >> i'm going to go you, dad. i'm going to get you. >> when "dateline" continues.

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welcome back to "dateline." our hidden cameras revealed how hard it can be to resist cheating. what can parents do to remove some stress on our kids? turns out the answer lies on putting less stress on the test. we watched this group of teens blatantly cheat on a test, looking up answers on a cell phone. this is a"dateline" show we're doing about cheating and they found out their parents saw it go down on hidden cameras. >> the whole time my stomach was turning and my heart is beating.

>> jasmine says she feels she's let her mother down. we reunite them in the library. >> i feel guilty. >> why do you feel guilty? >> because i lied for like everyone. we all lie for each other. i feel guilty about that. >> how does that make you feel? >> she's going to make me cry because she's crying. >> but this mom knows her daughter's heart is in the right place. the rest just takes practice. >> first of all you're here because i want to you realize how important it is for you to be a strong person and stand up for yourself and it's hard. not everybody does it. there's adults that don't do it and i know it's hard. i've been there. >> you know what you stand for. >> they said i don't know why i cheated. i was raised better, i know that's wrong but i did it anyway. it's amazing to be able to talk

about it with their mom or dad. >>'tables were turned, how do you think the grownups would react? >> i think they would do the same thing. it's easy to look at kids and say that's kids doing this. this is something we can often get caught up easily. >> what can be done to reduce cheating in schools and make it easier for honest kids to stand their ground? cheating researcher and educator professor eric anderson says there is a proven solution. how can we reduce cheating? >> this is a tall order, deemphasizing the absolute total importance of the grade, that really is the bottom line, motivation to get grades is one of the strongest predictors of whether or not kids cheat or not. >> research shows when schools and parents talk more about knowledge than grades, cheating goes down. >> in other words, you got a c, you didn't learn all the material, you're going to have to go back and learn the material and retake the test and get an "a." the goal is not for me to say

you're a c student. you have to learn this stuff. >> if you focus on grades, grades, you're contributing to a situation where they will more likely cheat. that's a hard thing for parents to hear. >> with our next group of students we put that idea to the test. this time when our producer gives instructions we make the audition less competitive, no longer stressing the importance of just getting the answers right. all we need to know from you is what you know. you can get them wrong. that's okay. that also helps us. will it make a difference at the table? when we met cassie she told her mom she doesn't like it when other kids try to copy their work. >> she felt that was doing them a disservice because they're not learning by that. >> and 11-year-old unctrey, trey for shirt. >> his name means to be truthful and honest, upright and

righteous. >> can trey live up to that big name? he's the youngest kid we're testing today. i'll give you a few minutes to do it. once again the actors start cheating during the individual test. and the twins go along helping each other out. the fraternal bond. >> we should have split those twins up. >> what is the name of justin bieber's -- >> here comes the real test, as they're working together on a group project, the cheaters pull out the cell phone to look up on answer. >> let's use -- >> no, don't. >> cassie and tra are adam ant don't do it. >> it's fine, you don't have to. >> please don't. >> it's the boldest pushback we've seen in the library yet. >> please put away your phone. please put away your phone.

>> you can watch the door and make sure -- >> no, please stop, no. >> can i have the cell phone? >> no. >> i'm just going to shut it off. >> no. >> please. ought way your phone. >> i don't want to get on the show cheating. >> doing what i taught him to do. >> put away your phone. >> okay, i put my phone away. everybody happy? >> when they find the cheat sheet we planted, answers we stapled to the back of the quiz, cassie tries to take it from the cheater. >> give it to me. come on. >> remember, we deemphasized the importance of getting all the answers right and it seems to have made a difference. cassie appears so confident that cheating is unnecessary that when our producer comes back in she doesn't hesitate to tell the truth about what's going on. >> the answers for the last of our questions were on the back of it. we wanted to let you know. >> cassie, what she did to tell

the adult that's not something you predicted. >> i really didn't expect it. >> you're here because we are doing a "dateline" episode about cheating and your parents have been watching. >> i'm going to get you, dad, i'm going to get you. >> you all did a great job. >> what happened there doesn't surprise me a bit. when the emphasis is on knowledge kids are not likely to cheat because it doesn't buy you anything. it doesn't get you anything. >> of course grades will still be a part of school, but experts say parents need to strike the right balance at home. raising kids who would never cheat is an enormous challenge, whether it's teaching them to stand up for what's right or to bounce back when they don't. >> good job. >> our children are going to do things that we are not proud of but what i think is important is that parents realize that parenting is a process. this is a journey, a long journey. >> and the journey starts when

they're really young, about preschool age, before grades even come into the picture. experts tell us we need to put the emphasis on learning and knowledge, and more importantly making that process fun. in the long run, i think our kids will thank us for it. that's all for this edition of in the in the. i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. here's what's happening. the memo blocked, what was behind the president's decision to keep it from being released, and what needs to change before the public can see it. >> he says he's innocent, and i think you have to remember that, but we absolutely wish him well. >> the president weighs in after his staff secretary resigns. this morning, new insight into who knew what when in the west wing and the questions bei