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the emphasis on learning and knowledge, and more importantly making that process fun. in the long run, i think our kids will thank us for it. that's all for this edition of in the in the. i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. here's what's happening. the memo blocked, what was behind the president's decision to keep it from being released, and what needs to change before the public can see it. >> he says he's innocent, and i think you have to remember that, but we absolutely wish him well. >> the president weighs in after his staff secretary resigns. this morning, new insight into who knew what when in the west wing and the questions being raised about the role of communications director hope hicks in all of this. plus, did she mean what she
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said? om omarosa's fallout after comments about trump on her reality show. new reaction to president trump's refusal to release the democrats memo which sought to refute last week's gop memo alleging fbi wrongdoing in the russia probe. here is adam schiff last night. >> the white house apparently has a newfound administration for the fbi. we wouldn't want to release anything that the fbi might be concerned about. they are sending the memo back to the committee, the same committee whose majority crafted the false memo to begin with, because they know the chairman has the president's back. that's the white house strategy. >> house intel chair devin nunes released this statement "i can warned that the democratic memo contains many sources and methods and it's no surprise that these agencies recommended against publishing this memo
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without redactions." rachel brand announced she's stepping down. meanwhile, increased speculation over chief of staff jon kelley's future in the white house. the "new york times" reports kelly allegedly told white house officials he's willing to resign over his handling of abuse allegations against rob porter. kelly told nbc news he did not offer to resign. as the scandal plays out a second official speechwriter david sorenson resigned after the white house learned of domestic violence allegations from his ex-wife. sorenson has denied the allegations. nbc's hallie jackson has more from the white house. >> reporter: for the first time -- >> well we wish him well. he worked very hard. >> reporter: president trump speaking publicly about former top aide rob porter who resigned after allegations of domestic violence became public. >> it was very sad, when we heard about it, and certainly he's also very sad now.
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he also as you probably know, he says he's innocent and i think you have to remember that. >> reporter: but new concerns about who knew what when about the accusations against porter. chief of staff jon kelley confirming he'd known for three months about an investigation. >> in november, i get an update on some of the investigations, and the update was that there was some things that needed to be looked into. literally that was it. >> reporter: can you clarify to us exactly, there's been a lot of reporting about the time line and the time you found out. >> tuesday night. >> reporter: you found out tuesday night? >> yes. >> reporter: the same night the white house released a statement from kelly lavishing praise on porter calling him a man of true integrity, that time line creating questions of credibility. multiple sources close to the president tell nbc news donald trump is frustrated with his chief of staff for mishandling the porter scandal, even musing
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about possible replacements including mick mulvaney and while kelly called the allegations against porter true, the president did not go that far. >> said first yesterday that he's innocent. >> reporter: no the women who accused porter of physical and verbal abuse, jenny willoughby worried her ex-husband would be vulnerable to blackmail. >> i told him i'm going to tell them the truth. >> reporter: jon kelley now is denying reports that he offered to resign, telling nbc news twice here at the white house that was not the case, but i am told by a source close to the chief of staff that he is feeling irritated, that he continues to be dogged by fallout from this porter scandal. dara, back to you. >> thanks, hallie. let's bring in jill coven, white house reporter for the associated press and julia manchester, reporter for "the hill." great to have you both this morning. >> thanks, dara. >> jill, what is conventional wisdom in the white house
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whether jon kelley should lose his job? some staffers accused him of not telling the truth and his actions thereafter. is there a sense staffers have had enough? >> we caught jon kelley in the hallway there. he was very adamant about his version of the time line. the problem is that contradicts with what a lot of people in the white house told us about who knew what when and the whole episode, there's already been some tension around jon kelley. there's been some frustration about the way that he has denied access to certain people to the president, controled his phone calls so there's been some brewing discontent happening for several months but this episode has really raised a lot of questions about kelly's leadership. this was the guy brought in to stabilize everything and now he's the one having this controversy swirling about him and there's definitely a sense that he's lost the confidence of many people in the building. >> julia, "vanity fair" reports trump was not aware of the
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severity of the alleged abuse thursday when ivanka showed him a photo of his ex-wife with a black eye. he used an expletive said one republican briefed on the conversation and ivanka and jared kushner have reportedly been discussing a replacement. how much will jared and ivanka play a role in replacing jon kelley? >> she is one of the few people that is in the inner circle who she truly has the ear of him. i think we've seen jared and ivanka really push the president in advising who he includes in his inner circle. we saw that they were very anti-steve bannon and eventually given steve bannon's, what he said in "fire and fury" et cetera he brought a lot of that on himself. jared and ivanka have a role in
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i guess bringing in who's close to the president, but with jon kelley, to jill's point, jon kelley i would like to say is someone who he's the chief of staff. i think we often credit him with controlling who goes to the president, and who gets access to him, which is very true but jon kelley is someone who hasn't done his main job of basically controlling his own staff and keeping his own staff in order, so i think jared and ivanka see that he's failed to do this and i think they'll be looking out for potential replacements. >> julia, i want to talk about the inner circle. hope hicks "vanity fair" source said was calling him a man of true integrity. she drafted this with kushner's spokesman. >> our sources tell us hope was involved in helping with the first batch of statements which they released to the initial
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"daily mail" story as well as conversations that happened on wednesday about how they would roll out and treat the potential resignation. hope is somebody who, as we know, she'd been dating rob porter, which really complicates this whole situation. we had raj shah when he was addressing this from the podium mention the fact that hope it recused herself from the response, kind of acknowledging the fact that that personal relationship had played some role and the. the is not happy with how his staff treated him, the fact that he found out about this so late but i want everyone to keep in mind the fact that hope is one of the president's longest serving and most loyal aides. she really is like a member of the family for the president, who treats loyalty and who treats that kind of relationship as extremely important. he has very few people especially in the wake of porter's resignation. he's got very few people around him he really trusts, and so it would be hard on the people i've
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spoken to the white house did not expect any departure any time soon. >> president trump released a statement to the "new york times" "hope is absolutely fantastic. she was with the campaign from the beginning and i could not ask for anything more. hope is smart, very talented and respected by all." so julia, why the need to release this statement, because let's talk about this, is hope hicks safe? >> yes, so i think to jill's point, hope hicks has been with trump for years now. she is like a member of the family, and we've seen that president trump definitely rewards loyalty. also, hope hicks has taken a bit of a step back from the limelight. we don't see her give too many interviews. i actually don't think she's given a public interview since being in the white house, and i think president trump likes that, because i think this is a president who likes to be in the spotlight, so she in that regard has done her job very smartly, but i think it's important to point out the optics of this whole situation, we're in the midst of this me to and time's
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up movement. she is the female white house communications director. the optics of it aren't that great when we're in the midst of women coming forward and alleging abuse in various situations and industries, but i think this is a president who ultimately rewards loyalty, so i would be surprised to see a departure at this point. >> and jill, now to another headline and president trump declining the release of the democrats memo. you did some reporting with your colleagues on what president trump and the white house are pushing back on in declining to declassify the document, the white house also sent lawmakers a letter signed by deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and wray, as well as a marked up copy of the memo, laying out portions it considers too sensitive to make public. jill, is there a sense of what is in there that is so sensitive? >> look, that's the big question i think everyone has here. what they've said is they've described it as information that would somehow compromise national security, information
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that would compromise intelligence sources, methods, but obviously there is a lot of concern among democrats on that committee and folks wider than that who believe that if you start redacting here and if you allow the committee that is dominated by republicans to work on this and start retracting things, that what you're going to do is cut out the information that invalidates that republican memo, and just the contrast here between the way that the president handled the republican memo versus the democratic memo is quite troubling to many on the hill. >> jill colvin, julia manchester, stay with us. we have much more to talk about this morning. market turmoil. how concerned should you be after wall street's worst week in two years? g like yesterday. trails are covered. paths aren't what they used to be. roads nowhere to be found. ( ♪ ) and it's exactly what you're looking for.
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even with the dow rebounding 330 points yesterday, it is still the worst posted week in about two years, all three major indexes ended on a bit of a high note after a lot of swings throughout the day, but the dow and s&p 500 both lost 5.2% in the week. the nasdaq went down 5.1%. joining us now cnbc contributor and host of the "insights" bod cast ron insana. >> thank you, dara. >> what is the one big takeaway from the past week and a half? >> we've seen 14 months where the stock market didn't move as much as 2% where it went to new all-time highs in the last 14 to 16 months so after seeing these increases january the market was up 8% alone which is an extraordinary single month move. we had been long overdue for a correction. the different aspect of this correction it was in a compressed period of time, literally one week we went 10% to the downside what we typically call a correction on
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wall street, that happened in a matter of six trading days so it was brutal, it was short, sharp and scary, as corrections often are. >> it was quite a deep drop there. we're seeing low unemployment and the highest wage growth since the recession eight years ago. those seemed like good things so why would they be a factor in this market plunge? >> there is some counter intuitive activity that takes place on wall street from time to time and the president addressed this, why is good news bothering the stock market? the u.s. economy looks like it's accelerating and looks like inflation may start to pick up and that means the federal reserve may start to raise interest rates more aggressively down the road, something not expected by the stock market and they're hearing the same thing overseas, a synchronized global economic recovery that seems to be generating a little more inflation and as a consequence central banks around the world might get more aggressive in raising rates. when you. you the that together in an enenvironment not priced for that reality we had this correction triggered last friday
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by a rise in interest rate, the ten-year note yield went to 2.9% and that triggered a sell-off and certain strategists were betting the market would go up with very little volatility for the foreseeable future. >> the president praised himself for rised in the stock market but hasn't said much since the recent downturn. how much credit or blame do you think the president deserves? >> it's exaggerated talking about any president's impact on the economy or the financial market and the president has kind of tied himself to this, and so yeah you will get praise and blame. deregulation, tax reform and now this budget, which is going to spend more money on defense has been at least in part behind the run we've seen in stocks to the upside. having said that, the increases in the budget deficit that we're likely to see as a consequence of those policies has raised concerns we may not be able to
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finance those deficits as easily at this point in the cycle, could lead to higher rates and affect the stock market down the road. eight a double edged sword if you're going to live by it, you may also die by it. having said that, this for now is probably still a long overdue correction. it is premature to say it is anything more than that because the economy looks strong, corporate profits are quite strong and global economic environment is still solid. until that changes or unless central banks get aggressive in raising interest rates this is probably a correction that may go 10% t may go 15% but it may not yet be something in the long run to concern one's self with. >> you consider this a correction but what about the president's constant chatter about the market's record rise, do you think that actually hurt it? >> no, i don't think so. i think people particularly given that the market is dominated by a wide variety of computer oriented strategies, i'm not sure we're looking at that specifically to move the market. it's unwise for the president typically or again any president to talk about a couple of different things. number one, the value of the
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dollar unless you have a specific policy objective that you're trying to achieve. number two, what the fed does with interest rates. you want to leave the fed independent and number three, make too much out of stock market moves. the dow has risen 280% since the march 9th low in 2009. it's gone up considerably since the bottom of the recession, so the president's had a good run since the election, but the market was up considerably before that. you really cannot ascribe to one individual the moves in the markets. it has a lot of other factors behind it. >> ron insana, great to have you here. thank you for your time this morning. omarosa what it was like to work in the trump white house. and at our factory in boston, more than a thousand workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day.
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with word of a summit offer. today in seoul kim jong-un's sister met with the south korean president. president moon expressed a willingness and urged the north to engage in a dialogue with the u.s. back to politics and the white house pushing back on new reaction from ousted white house aide omarosa slamming her boss and colleagues during her return to reality tv. >> i was haunted by tweets every single day, like what is he going to tweet next? >> does anybody say to him, what are you doing? >> honey, i tried to be that person and all of the people around him attacked me. >> would you vote for him again? >> god, no. never. in a million years, never. >> i feel like i should keep whispering here. we bring back jill and julia.
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jill, i want to talk with you first. did you get a sense omarosa is being sin veer about her regrets? >> it's hard to judge this. omarosa spent a lot of time on reality television who has tried to cultivate this image when she was on "the apprentice." she was very much the kind of, you know, bad kind of intriguing character, was going after people. it seems here she's trying to be quite sympathetic and telling people who might not necessarily be trump supporters she agrees with them. it's just a really peculiar situation though to have a former white house aide who is now on reality television show. it's just bizarre. >> whispering like it's pillow talk. julia, can you put omarosa's recent comments in the context of this "washington post" headline, "very turbulent: trump and white house consumed with turmoil amid abuse allegations." julia, is omarosa simply validating these stories of
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turmoil? >> it's really hard to tell i think like jill said, omarosa is very shrewd. i think she understands drama saves you from the editing room floor in reality television. however, i do think you could say she is i guess opening another door for us to see what it's like inside of the white house, and she is validating what a lot of people have reported as the drama that constantly happens in the white house. she said people constantly want to stab her in the back and she would, you know, try to advise president trump, but she was stopped in a bit of a power struggle. we've heard so many reports about how this white house is very dramatic, how there's competing factions, so while i think she is being shrewd and i think she's definitely very much stirring the pot in trying to get that publicity, i think she's validating a lot of the drama that we've heard coming out of there. >> jill, what is your take? do you think she's validating this drama? >> i think that she, her
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performance here definitely kind of underscores the kind of sense that people have that this is really a white house in which there are different factions in which people are out for their own interests. i also remember she gave an interesting interview right after she departed the white house in which she also talked about her position as the only black woman in the president's inner circle there, and discussed some of the race relations issues and i thought that was really interesting and perspective that we hadn't heard coming from the white house. i don't think we should discount her experiences here. i do think she's kind of despite the fact she's obviously dramatizing these things she provides valuable looks into what it was like inside. >> president trump is not tweeting on this. what is his take on this? >> it's interesting. we've seen that president trump i think has really admired omarosa in the past for how shrewd and clever she was. he's worked with her in the past
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